Sheriffs in a dozen Washington counties say they won’t enforce the state’s sweeping new restrictions on semi-automatic rifles until the courts decide whether they are constitutional.
A statewide initiative approved by voters in November raised the minimum age for buying semi-automatic rifles from 18 to 21, required buyers to first pass a firearms safety course and added expanded background checks and gun storage requirements, among other things. It was among the most comprehensive of a string of state-level gun-control measures enacted in the U.S. after last year’s shooting at a Florida high school.
The National Rifle Association and the Second Amendment Foundation have filed a lawsuit in federal court alleging the initiative is unconstitutional. They say its purchasing requirements violate the right to bear arms and stray into the regulation of interstate commerce, which is the province of the federal government.
Sheriffs in 12 mostly rural, conservative counties — Grant, Lincoln, Okanogan, Cowlitz, Douglas, Benton, Pacific, Stevens, Yakima, Wahkiakum, Mason and Klickitat — along with the police chief of the small town of Republic, have said they will not enforce the new law until the issues are decided by the courts.
Hate to agree with fbiposters but there is only one way such a thing will happen.
Cooper Sanchez
You have no idea what you are talking about, abdul.
Chase Lopez
Good on them; am I correct when I say that Sheriffs are elected by the locals? If so couldn't a number of OurGuys™ or streloks get positions within the police and have some command over an entire county's police force?
Even though WA seems to have a concentration of Zig Forums posters, I don't think the numbers are there to swing an election.
Kayden Gomez
Good! if the police are on the side of gun owners, we'll win.
Luke Ortiz
Things are going to be interesting in the next 20 years.
David Morgan
the same bullshit as in new york. They make a whole grandstanding show and then enforce the laws "when there were other offenses" and then then just enforce it altogether.
William Adams
Mutt, you sure have a purdy mouth. Call me when your boomer mutt zogcops dare to shoot feds when shtf for gun ownership.
Nathaniel Hughes
Thanks for the good read, curious how possible power outages would affect your scenario.
Eli Ramirez
this focuses on cities, what about us rural anons? do we just sit back, eat popcorn, and watch? Most of the food is grown is sparse, easily defensible rural areas, so food wouldn't run short. Good luck trying to flash mob out here. one house sits pretty on several acres. even if they surrounded one house, neighbors would respond and the angry mass would quickly disperse. There are some ghettos in busier town, but they are isolated. surrounded.
You'd be surprised how easy Gerrymandering can be. All it takes, especially for smaller elections (which tend to have a much lower turn out and smaller districts). If you set up a decently accurate model of voting patterns and started looking at the numbers you'll probably find one or more constituencies where even relatively small groups combined with an effective campaign could swing the vote pretty reliably. Are US Sheriffs appointed for life or is it a fixed term thing?
Going by my Congressman's book about his Afghan experience, rural favors guerrillas even more. Paths that are isolated and especially unpaved are very easy to spam IEDs on. Worse, MRAPs aren't really suited to more hazardous terrain. This got so bad forces couldn't be deployed since no officer wanted to risk ordering an op that got men killed. Even in the most rural areas of the US, roads are likely thousands of years ahead of Afghanistan, but even with MRAPs getting hit by an IED derails a mission even if nobody is seriously injured.
Helicopters don't help government forces that much either. In Afghanistan they were never available and needed additional attack helicopters as escorts to cover landing. Since missions couldn't be conducted without medievac and medievac needed escorts that couldn't be supplied most units never left the base. For a domestic war this is worse since you need multiple helipads in the same area, and not just the ones suited for traffic monitoring or civilian medical helicopters (so you can't just commandeer a newstation/police station/hospital).
Given how much more area has to be covered in a hypothetical US occupation of rural America as opposed to Afghanistan/Iraq, the Federal forces will be much more reliant on airborne capabilities to meet logistical demands. If I were a Russian or Chinese leader with a few functioning brain-cells, I would be running thousands of MANPADS across the porous US border to cripple the Federal forces.
Couldn't they shut down cellphone towers/redirect satellites or something? I assume that's what those smartphone shut-down tests a year or so ago were about, as anons said they were?
Yes they could fuck with your shit but they also risk fucking with everyone else, so they'd probably balance the risk of pissing off normal fags trying to find where the next gub'mint handout station is/jewtube or wurlll staaar or deal with giving the enemy a not so secure way of communicating.
Adrian Carter
Well, I don't have a smartphone, and neither should you. Dumbphones I can at least understand, but smartphones are unnecessary. Cutting off connection to a city could work, yeah?
Andrew Cruz
For that matter, what about amateur radio repeaters? Any developed urban area is going to be lousy with them. Yeah, the FCC has the registry information, but as soon as the first HAM gets V& all that equipment's gonna get lost in boating accidents real fast. How long can you transmit from a single location before your position is triangulated? In the absence of public frequency/offset/CTCSStone? And that's assuming they don't just slap a retractable antenna on a panel van and go cruising.
They can, but that only serves to ratchet up the tension and further screw the economy. It might slow down the impromptu flashmobs, but it would cause damage of its own and just cause existing gangs among those groups to expand and take a more proactive/aggressive stance. Turning off the smartphones could actually make the situation much worse, pushing the previously impromptu and unplanned racial violence from the MUY groups he talks about into an organised warlord style set up.
Jose Ortiz
Dropped harder than Little Boy. If this faggot is Judeo-Christian, I don't think he has any value. Spengler and Yockey are better.
Cutting off gibs will incite the MUY to riot, but cutting off the internet will incite everyone to riot. Americans are naturally aggressive and are only pacified by a constant stream of media, shut it off and they will be awakened.
Carter Cox
Exactly. I went to a school district where they had to mandate three dodgeball days in PE to let us "release our anger" and bring down the violence stats. Was fun af to pelt the chinese kids in the face at point blank.
In a war situation, yes. However, the pdf above describes basically an urbanite battle between middleclass and ghettos. There would be little advantage to ghetto rioters to go out 50 miles to the middle of, relative to the city, nowhere.
Even in a war, it would be hard for enemy guerrillas to attack the country side. Unless these are two opposing groups who both live in the country side, most of the rural folk would stick together. Which means they have access to their houses as bases of operations, roads, and knowledge of the land etc. Where as, for instance, a bunch of Federal Troops would find themselves in hostile territory surrounded by people who know just how to fuck them up and get back to safety like nothing had happened.
The author didn't account for the sheer diversity of the migrant masses preventing the muds from establishing the command structure necessary to coordinate six million Paris attacks/day without running into inter-rapefugee crossfire stemming from 50 different ethnicities packed together in those refugee camps, said refugees have also gotten quite lazy in the presence of smartphones and free gibs.
Henry Thomas
Against mil-spec DF gear? About 30 seconds. At least, that's how long it takes the Russkies and Chinks to find on you if they're expecting you to transmit at some point.
Anthony Gonzalez
From an FCC perspective it depends on transmission characteristics, such as frequency and beamform. If you transmit NVIS or through a highly directional antenna you could transmit almost indefinitely. If you're mobile in an urban environment you might have good luck communicating through a common router using a Cantenna; you can get >1 mile from the router with good signal if you know the azimuth, and can do quite a bit more with low-profile equipment while blending in to the RF environment.
Andrew Fisher
Whites will be a minority of newborns next year (2020) unless by the end of march every white woman will get pregnant with a white kid, preferrably twins or triplets.
Xavier White
You kind of look like Bill Watterson m8
William Howard
are you on HRT? cool kit but those scrawny arms and ankles, overly short pants and patent leather loafers scream fag.
no offense if not intentional, trying to help a brotha out
Zachary Price
Civil war when? What laws will it take for you fags to put those guns to use and resist tryanny?
Bread and circus keeps us docile. The Murican turns into a rampaging death machine only when you take away his burgers and internet. As for how we can get the powers that be to fuck up this hard, is up for debate.
Dylan Morgan
I was about to post something similar. Yeah, once they're without burgers and they realize the feds aren't omnipotent. That is the main issue in my opinion.
Robert Perez
Was there even an outcry at the goverment at admitting MKULTRA was real, they were planning a terrorist attack on their own country as an excuse to invade another or even the fact that they completely made up the attack on US ships that led to vietnam? did anyone care or was it just brushed off? guess someone needs to EMP alot of places to get a happening started
David Lee
Few read the news headline itself, much less cared. You can still be called a conspiracy nut for saying it was real, despite the documents being declassified.
Nathan Carter
About as fast as it takes to load the 155mm soon coming your way. With an autoloader.
If you're talking shitposting it's one thing if you're talking guerrilla the only way to fight a modern state is the tech downgrade, bike messengers, hell fucking pigeons carriers. Even just keeping keep short range tactical radios is questionable. Robing a surplus of it's WWII and early CW field phones and plug in into legacies physical networks would probably be smarter.
Anthony Robinson
What will it take for you, Bongland? I don't think you have any room to talk about people being reluctant to use their last resort.
Landon Jones
Flesh and blood gets tired. That's the only reason autoloaders are a thing. Fuck your scaremongering; the question he asked was about how long it would take for his position to become coordinates on a map, at which point he would then have to worry about how quickly a crew could load a 155mm shell into a tank gun or howitzer.
To answer that question, how long would it take for those opposing you to send out three other teams to pick up your signal from three different locations and then do a little math to find the point between those other points? Cut a minute or two from that result and that's probably the amount of "safe" time you have to transmit your signal.
Nolan White
As long as any one economy is doing well enough, and people aren't starving, revolt is unlikely to happen.
Chase Parker
Doesn't matter. The Brits are still doing better than you because they are whiter than you. Also, mutts don't have any right to criticize other countries. You must have a white percentage of 100% in order to criticize other countries. You are more than 44% away from that.
Jack Stewart
They would already be in place, nigger. DF equipment takes all of ~
Christopher Williams
DF equipment is already in place in a lot of cities, but we've found (so far) that it's not difficult to overwhelm them. Too many shots too fast and they just kind of give up. But I'm sure that's a bug that'll be addressed shortly.
Austin Gray
We're talking about radio TX DF, not shots. There's a DIY jamming manual online somewhere. Look into it, because that's realistically all you'd have if SHTF.
Logan Jenkins
I always knew because sheriffs are universally depicted as lazy, incompetent, corrupt slobs in movies…. they must be basically paladin angels in real life.
Juan Ward
Please don't post images of yourself on Zig Forums, or the Internet in general, you only ensure embarrassment, you possibly literal faggot. Quit being a girlyman and get swole.
>so they pass (((gun legislation))) in a state on the opposite side of the country that also happens to have one of the largest white populations by percentage hmmmmmmmmmmm
James Mitchell
there is no connection…
Seattle makes most of the laws for Washington because of the population that is comprised mostly of millenials who left California and tech workers who work for amazon, microsoft, or at a pot dispensary. Thanks to the cheap prices and pristine environment, Washington has become California 2, hipster destruction bogaloo.
Nathan Wilson
yes i understand all that. it's just funny that the article in the OP mentions the parkland shooting in reference to these measures.
shit like this is what we should really be concerned about.
Colton Moore
would not operate with
Christian Nelson
Isn't the eastern half of your state currently trying to break off with something like a 70% majority in favor of it? >>>/liberty/98742
Jackson Perry
you know what happens to states with sheriffs that dont want to enforce gun control right?
oy vey she is a dangerous criminal, how dare you think otherwise
Hunter Ward
Except that no one in the rural US eats the corn and soy that grows in their field.
Bentley Martinez
Look at those glazed over eyes. Those plastic smiles. The empty gaze. It makes you wonder what goes on, deep beyond the initial thoughts of 'must confiscate, must castrate'.
Jonathan Ortiz
Only way to avoid a waiting period now is private sales which they already criminalized.
Angel Rodriguez
When guns are outlawed, only criminals will have guns.
So the question is, how much stigmatism is attached to being a criminal in a corrupt nation?
What do you guys know about a new law coming in July 1st? A friend told me something was coming down that would prevent 80% and stripped-lowers from changing hands under any circumstances, come July 1st.
I've looked into it, it seems (if I'm reading it right) to just be a "no 3D printed funz" law – resulting firearm has to contain metal, "enough" to set off a metal detector, and have a serial number. Also the same friend said the CLEOs said they were too backed up to finalize their backlog so the no-stripped-lowers thing was called off until next year.
Anybody else hear this? I'd been saving up to make an AK from a pre-bent blank, and of course a centimeter 1911 was after that but this may halt those developments. And I found out there exists an P320 blank – just in time for Ghost guns to be "deplatformed" by their bank (so, take postal MOs? No reply from that email).
James Turner
I'm not sure that would work out. It's not a firearm as a 80% lower, and unless they carve an exception for interstate commerce it's gonna get smacked down 7-2 most likely 9th cirucit will uphold it most likely
Look for HB 1739 “Except as otherwise provided in this section, it is unlawful for any person to:
(a) Manufacture, own, buy, sell, loan, furnish, transport, or have in possession or under control, any machine gun, bump-fire stock, undetectable firearm, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle;
(b) Manufacture, own, buy, sell, loan, furnish, transport, or have in possession or under control, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively for use in a machine gun, bump-fire stock, undetectable firearm, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle, or in converting a weapon into a machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle;”
(c) Assemble or repair any machine gun, bump-fire stock, undetectable firearm, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle; or
(d) Manufacture an untraceable firearm with the intent to sell the untraceable firearm.”
Definitions: “Undetectable firearm means any firearm that is not as detectable as 3.7 ounces of 17-4 PH stainless steel by walk-through metal detectors or magnetometers commonly used at airports or any firearm where the barrel, the slide or cylinder, or the frame or receiver of the firearm would not generate an image that accurately depicts the shape of the part when examined by the types of X-ray machines commonly used at airports.”
“Untraceable firearm means any firearm manufactured after July 1, 2019, that is not an antique firearm and that cannot be traced by law enforcement by means of a serial number affixed to the firearm by a federally licensed manufacturer or importer.”
If you're talking about the Federal H.R. 7115 , then yes. That one bans "parts-kits" of muh scary black rifles. I think we might have a 4-3 SCOTUS ruling on this. Mainly because the government is not allowed to regulate firearms used for personal use (so no selling it) so long as it isn't NFA, isn't imported with 10 or more parts, or undetectable from a metal detector.
Xavier Lopez
ruralite/urbanite civil war when? i guess it would be more like ruralite/urbanite(with federal backing)
Daniel Thompson
bingo. dont forget who the responsible party is either
