Recently the government in my country is lifting gun control a little bit, these are the ones they allow right now, that being said, can the Zig Forums experts tell me about the ups and downs of them? of course I will be doing my research too but I also trust your experience.
Glock 9x19
Jericho 941F
Semi P2226 Tacops
SIG SAUER P320
Pietro Bereta 92FS
Herstal FNP9
SIG SAUER P250 Small
Isn't the government in italy nonexistent? go buy a machine gun from the mafia
Mexico, the government is going from oligarchy/state merchantilism to socialist currently, or at least that's the goal of the current president, it came to my surprise we are getting a bit less gun control, maybe this was passed from an earlier legislation.
Expensive for what it is in the US (no idea elsewhere) and shitty trigger, but functional. Is the law actually so vague that is just says glock in 9x19? That's at least 4 different guns.
Are you a Spike cosplayer? I'd say don't bother if you're not, but real CZ-75 variants aren't on your list so it's OK.
Never heard of it and can't find any mention of it. Did you mean Sig P226?
This one is interesting. In the US civilian market the modular thing is pretty much a gimmick and 80% fuel. If those are really the only 7 pistols allowed, you might have a reason to pick it since if you can acquire the right grip frame (and possibly slide) it's the smallest pistol on the list.
Gruntproof and reliable but fairly heavy and had some shitty magazines early on.
No idea.
Go to a shooting range and try each of them out, plink away at a target. You'll like one better than the others.
An SAS commando told me he'd rather have a Glock in dirty conditions, something about its design makes it self cleaning and jam resistant.
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Well the pic clearly says it's a P226.
The Beretta 92FS/M9 was always a good looking gun. Italians know how to make things look purty for sure. I remember it had a nasty design defect with the upper coming loose from, the receiver? Make sure you don't get an early one.
Typo then.
SIGs on that list are SIG USA not Sauer so caveat empor, the P320 is interesting if you're restricted to what you can have but if not just buy Glocks, they're likely cheaper and you will have easy access to good accessories (sights, holsters) even with a limited market.
If you don't like plastic / striker fired guns then Beretta 92 are very good, FNP are good too but they're likely pricier.
I wonder if the glock thing is a loophole of sorts.
Of this list, the only one i'd recommend is the Jericho, but that's only because it's a jew'd CZ75.
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Those guns are just a list of examples. The law says any semi-auto up to 9mm and revolvers up to 38 special with the exception of 357 magnum.
Can you get Elmer Keith loaded 38 special and a revolver proofed for them in place of 357?
It would be legal but I'm not sure if you can get them in mexico because everything is sold through a military controlled shop, from what I understand.
They would have to have them available.
will feed most ammo. Huge aftermarket. mags and such easily available. No manual safety on it. Striker fired.
Pretty robustly built, will fire +p+ 9mm (over pressure). Based on cz75 design so some people find it to be nice ergonomically. Double action/single action with safety
large for 9mm fullsize gun. Will chamber basically any 9mm because it direct feeds from the magazine. Has manual safety and decocker combo switch. double action/single action.
commenting on the ones I am familiar with in detail.
to follow up I would recommend the beretta first and the jericho second. Whether you want the glock is a degree of personal preference.
I will need to check prices and paperwork then, the requirements are very relaxed but in all honesty I just want them for home safety just in case.
So what has changed law wise specifically?
Basically the weapons you would be able to own with the license, in this country is mostly bureaucracy but way before that you couldn't even claim self-defense if you killed someone who broke into your home, the Human Rights Commission always defends the human rights of delinquents first and the only way to not get in jail was to comply with a very specific scenario, as in, the perpetrator had a gun and he shot first with the intent to kill, then you could fire back (if you had a weapon with a license) or make them submit by any other means, even then you could be charged with assault.
The big change it seems gun wise is allowing 9x19, iirc mexicans weren't legally allowed to buy guns in military calibers before.
So the self-defense law is on paper better now? Is getting a license easier?
overpriced, pretentious tupperware with a bad trigger and strangely shit QC these days.
meme gun
double/single on these guns is extremely difficult to master, and the aluminum frame wears out kinda fast.
great gun
same problems as the p226
double/single issue, otherwise good.
just get a p320 if you're thinking about the p250
Gaston Glock removed about 25% of the chamber and thus lowered the feeding ramp angle. That's it, no special "self cleaning," miracle, he just straight up exposed a bunch of brass by removing part of the chamber. That's why Glocks go kaboom more often than other guns.
License is been almost the same but there are no weapon shops at all, the only "hard" requirement is the National Military Service card which you would get by doing some kind of social service every weekend for a year once you turn 18 years old, still, for a long time it was literal military service, you could also be sorted to just wait for a year without doing anything but it is subject to much corruption so the wealthy can skip the service and the military service has to offset that with "sorting" the others into the service anyway.
As for the law, it now allows you to kill on self-defense if they break into your house, no questions asked.
w/e you do, don't get a 9mm. It's a micropenis round.
I thought it was the most common around small firearms.
Just get the Glock 19
If you're that limited then I suggest getting the FN 5.7x25mm pistol. Check and see if they will allow that caliber because if it's for personal defense, you never know if the bandits will have vests. If not, then I say grab yourself the Glock 17. They never die unless you put about 500 - 1500 +P+ rounds through them. There is where the exploding glock meme comes from.
I trained on an old P226 .45, some glock 9/.45s, and my old CZ-75 compact and they were just fine. Are you sure that they don't allow CZ because that is a piece based off the original Browning Hi-Power, so it's pretty gud.
I'll have to do some more research on that note.
I've wanted to get my hands on an original Browning HP in 9mm, but they are getting more an more limited in number. The CZ-SP is basically the copy of it with a few mods.
The ammo for the 5.7 must be scary expensive in mexico.
I'd say go for 9mm or maybe a shotgun if you plan too use it for home protection.
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You would have to find an old triple lock, as elmer's loads would kick the shit out of any pot metal offering found today.
I guess you can't go for a .357 Magnum self-loading pistol then. At least you'd have an excuse for a 9mm Parabellum revolver if you wanted one.
Just get a taurus, brand new it'll be cheaper than some beat up cartel/federale/policia sloppy seconds. the G2 takes sig 226 mags and its subcompact.
Are they decriminalizing possession after you buy from the black market or is Mexico getting legit gun stores too?
Mexico doesn't seem to have any gun stores, apparently there is only a handful of state sanctioned dealers controlled by the military, I need to re-check, it would be great if we get gun stores.
It's a joke.
depends on which gun best fits YOUR hand.
I tried Glock VS XD grip side by side in gun store and it was clearly Glock for me, and that was later proven when I compared me shooting both side by side for accuracy…..yet some noted shooter was saying the XD's grip "forced you to have better more correct grip".
Glock 19 3rd Gen is considered by many to be perfect. Gen 4 has had issues stovepiping and doesn't add anything except maybe back-strap sizes.
Glock 19 is pretty good for CCW but also shoots like a full size.
It might be an extra $100 more than close clones like S&W but its $100 better in overall build.
I carried a gen 4 glock 21 for roughly three years as my duty pistol and won a few local shooting tournaments with it. It shot pretty well. Granted, I know your milage may vary, but I thought it was a pretty nice gun. I've never CCW'd a glock (and especially one as huge as the g21), so I can't really tell you how it would feel pressed up on you. After three years of climbing all over shit and maneuvering, the rear sight (made of hard plastic) are all dented and chewed up from being banged around in a two stage retention holster; so you should definitely look into getting better sights installed.
I don't have experience with the g17 and g19, but I really can't see them being radically different. I do have one of the single stack glocks as a range toy and it shoots well within 10m.
You also won't go wrong with the beretta 92. Unlike the glock it's got a certain sexiness to it. But for some reason it gets super filthy super fast, so be prepared to clean alot of you get it.
Everyone in my building raves about sig sauer pistols (including my wife), but I don't I simply don't see what they see in them. I think the hype carries them further than they deserve, but they certainly will get the job done.
Ultimately, what I tell people is to hold them in your hand. Play with the controls. Reload them a few times. Bring it up a firing stance a few times from low ready. Eventually a few will stand out to you and a few will feel awkward. Go with the one that feels the most comfortable in your hand. Good luck.
Made some research, bureaucracy still can get in the way and there us only one legal weapon shop in Mexico City, I will try to pay a visit soon, BTW said store can't announce itself on any medium.
Ultimately, what I tell people is to hold them in your hand. Play with the controls. Reload them a few times. Bring it up a firing stance a few times from low ready. Eventually a few will stand out to you and a few will feel awkward. Go with the one that feels the most comfortable in your hand.
this, buddy had to get rid of some pistol (forgot what) because for some reason he had trouble reaching the mag drop or safety or something.
That's a Mexican flag, you fucking retard.
Pic related, it's you.
way to show your true colors over a joke, /trannypol/
the FNP is fucking excellent if you want a da/sa
try to get a decocker
gas yourself
Calling Mexico Italy (or vice versa) is an old as fuck meme you dumb trannigger.
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I didn't realize those existed.
Anyway, the Beretta is a good option, even literal borderline retards in the US military are capable of using and maintaining it, so if you have zero experience with pistols that's probably a good choice to at least familiarize yourself assuming it's not out of your price range.
The Jericho is supposed to be pretty similar to a CZ, since it's based on it, though I haven't had a chance to fingerfuck one and check out the sights, but I can say it's very easy to acquire a sight picture with my CZ.
The slide is thinner than most other handguns' though, so it might be a little awkward if you've gotten used to thicker slides or you have fat fingers.
Both are really easy to field strip and clean too.
I am more surprised all those anti-gun people can't just look down here and realize what taking guns away would imply, they say "only the cops should have them" well, cops have them here and they are corrupt as fuck, they think American cops kill when they please then they have no idea and they rarely use their guns here, we are the capital for kidnapping and torture by the police force, basically only a few civilians here own guns, the rest is everyone but the people.
What country are you from Strelok?
If you're in a shit part of Mexico, buy what people around you have, or at the very least stick to the same cartridge. I ran into a problem about a year ago with my M70A where I realized magazines suddenly cost almost as much as the gun, and nobody in my circle of friends knew how to work a Tokarev, which meant they had no clue on why a clean gun would jam every second round. It's a fun gun, but having that common knowledge, common pool of spare parts, and the ability to stay at your friend's house and feel just as natural with his gun in case yours isn't in reach are all valuable factors.
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Wait I dont understand this. please spoon feed me I am a retard.
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This is why the Republicans are still bogged down in Trump worship. There are just too many retarded boomers who don't give a shit to actually realize that Zion Don has no f*cking clue what he's doing.
If hes talking of SVTs they tend to have a problem with rimlock and any change of ammo requires gas system adjustment.
They're exceptionally finicky rifles to those who aren't in the know how to make em work.
What kind of a fucking burger mistakes the Mexican flag (a flag we see every fucking month in media) with the Italian flag?
I do not understand. what does "QC" mean?
they blow because it's the most popular handgun out there, which means they end up in the hands of lots of retards that shoot bubba's nuclear handloads or squib loads
Quality control. Low QC means it's shit.