Fixing US weapons r&d

Ethan Perry
Ethan Perry

If you were elected president(or appointed secretary of defense), how would you fix the US military's r&d woes?

I would start designing things in the military and putting out contracts for manufacturers, not weapons designs. It seems really simple that the military would produce a design for a weapon and take bids for producing said weapon.

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Brandon Green
Brandon Green

*manufacturing, not manufacturers

Jack Thompson
Jack Thompson

I would declare war on Israel and execute every jew in the country. That alone will get rid of all the trash bloating the industry and economy

Asher Perez
Asher Perez

Nationalize the defense industry. There should be no profit motive to national defense.

Chase Howard
Chase Howard

I don't know what price signals are or why they matter

Gavin Jones
Gavin Jones

It seems really simple that the military would produce a design for a weapon and take bids for producing said weapon.

This leaves you with the problem that when something goes wrong like it always does, the people who should be raising the alarms are frequently engaging in careerist ass-covering instead. Look up the story of the Mark 14 torpedo.

Aiden Kelly
Aiden Kelly

Except that your Ordnance Department was a complete shitshow. They failed to prepare for ww1, even though the conflict raged on for years before the first US troops entered Europe; they kept the BAR for ww2 without any upgrades; and one man's faggotry was enough to adopt a slightly shortened .30-06, and even force it on NATO, even though they had nearly endless stockpiles of .30-06 laying around.

Evan Powell
Evan Powell

It isn't possible to fix it anymore because the country is literally all niggers at this point. Normal points of contention for reform aren't remotely applicable because the country isn't capable of implementing any of it nor is it capable of business as usual.

Jackson Baker
Jackson Baker

Its the fact anything the Ordnance did to the gun if the GI could he ripped it off. Turns out it was a better automatic rifle than it was a LMG. That thing shined in Korea.

Cameron Perry
Cameron Perry

Scrap the F-35.
Revive ASF-14 for the Navy.
Blend F-15X, F-15SE and F-15SMT.
Blend F-16V with YF-16 CCV, HiMAT, F-16 VISTA and maybe F-16 SFW, revive the F-16XL. Put F-22 back to production and revive FB-22. Lockheeb must do these for free.
Revive variable cycle turbofan technology and try to advance it to ramjet-hybrid level if possible, as claimed by GE.
Revive the YF-23.
Make a 6th-gen fighter based on the X-36.
Revive B-1R.
Buy production license for Su-35, MiG-35/29K and Rafale and make better domestic versions.
Buy production license for R-73 and make better domestic version using whatever technology there was developed for the AIM-9X.
Buy production license for the latest S-300 variant they will spare and make a better S-400 out of it.
Convert the oldest airworthy Stratofortress frames into QB-52 suicide bombers.
Thrust vectoring and sidewinders for air defense are now obligatory for all combat aircraft. Also rear-guns for larger aircraft.
All capital ships, especially supercarriers, are now obliged to be at least minimally self-reliable for their defense against aircraft and smaller vessels.
Declare war on Sunni Islam. Nuke the cube.
Repay all of Greece' debt provided they will become the frontline for the New Crusade if (((they))) don't agree go full Gladio with the GD.

Samuel Gonzalez
Samuel Gonzalez

all this super autism
do I know you?

Isaiah Taylor
Isaiah Taylor

It's me, user.

Jayden Harris
Jayden Harris

Call in every C-level executive of every current military contractor, then execute them all for treason.
Proceed to hire new guys and tell them that they shouldn't try to treat the state as as their personal bottomless wallet unless they want to end up like their forebears.
Then start to focus on ruggedness and cheap/quick to produce stuff instead of the most high-tech stuff, because that's also good enough to kill hadjis and can actually win a war against a near-equal opponent instead of being unable to replace losses after the first week of fighting.

Josiah Nguyen
Josiah Nguyen

Just stop funding research and instead say "we won't buy your shit unless its good", let Lockeeb fund their own damn R&D. We don't even really need much of a military anyways as long as we have operational nukes, almost all of our funding should be directed towards space and missile defense. The only purpose that a standing army serves is protecting Israel through regime change wars, which we obviously do not need or benefit from. You can't take over the US without nukes because everyone here has guns, and you can't take over the US with nukes because we will just nuke you back.

Jayden Turner
Jayden Turner

We don't even really need much of a military anyways as long as we have operational nukes, almost all of our funding should be directed towards space and missile defense.
Was Eisenhower right?

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Nathaniel Hall
Nathaniel Hall

Not reading 90 pages unless you can assure me whatever policy is laid out doesn't put money in the pockets of the inherently jewish military industrial complex.

Connor Johnson
Connor Johnson

need price signals
I used to work for a company that bought a lot of shit from state industry in china and lots of times you could ask for absolutely stupid tier deals and they'd agree because the guys selling and making shit had no idea what it cost to make or sell.
this is hyperbole but not all wrong. Look at California cancelling its hugely expensive high speed rail. This country is (due to institutional rot, de-industrialization, and browning and it's associated corruption) literally incapable of large industrial projects.

Cameron Fisher
Cameron Fisher

Break up Lockheeb, General Dynamics and maybe Boeing for good measure.

Stop enabling kitchen-sink projects like the JSF where additional roles and features are added mid-development with no regard for whether the project can still perform its initial function. If the designers think they can adapt it to a new role then let them run with it, but the new variant must be broken off into its own project so the two variants don't drag each other down with incompatible or superfluous requirements (so the land-based JSF doesn't have to worry about the CATOBAR model's size limits and structural requirements, the CATOBAR model doesn't have to worry about the VTOL model's weight limits and the VTOL model doesn't have to worry about the other models' supercruise and stealth requirements). This actually saves R&D costs in some cases, because much of the Joint Shekel Finder's development problems were from trying to fit an increasingly long list of features into the already-overloaded VTOL airframe.

Stop authorizing projects like the LCS that have no clearly-defined role. In my hunt to figure out what the actual purpose of the LCS was supposed to be, I discovered that the USN literally just ordered them for no reason (aside from the (((usual reasons))), of course) and then invented a need for them years later to justify the investment:
The Navy committed to the $15 billion (2003) program in advance of rigorous analysis or clearly defined purpose, appearance, or survivability.
The designers clearly knew they wanted some kind of patrol boat, but they couldn't seem to agree on what kind. The specification alternates between a relatively large and capable blue-water ASW corvette, a small and fast green-water gunboat or a multipurpose patrol ship with mine warfare capabilities, and somewhere along the line they threw in a requirement for amphibious warfare capabilities because it replaced a LHD in the budget. But because they never actually decided on a role, the result is this total clusterfuck of a ship that isn't good at any of these roles.

Along the same lines, stop waiting until all of our actually important equipment is 50 years old and literally falling apart before developing a replacement. This is a problem that affects every branch, but the USN are the ones feeling it the worst: we retired all our heavy ASMs twenty years ago, are just now adopting a stopgap replacement that barely improves on its predecessor, and haven't even drawn up the requirements for an actual successor yet. Our frigate fleet is the same story, our last FFG was scrapped in 2015 but we didn't start searching for a replacement until 2017 and won't actually order any until 2020.

Place strict limits on all future warships to counteract the size and mission creep that's been plaguing all our surface combatants since the 70s, and redesignate the Zumwalts as cruisers while we're at it. Arleigh Burkes get to stay because we can't afford to replace them in the escort role just yet and it would be silly to have a fleet of nothing but cruisers.

No, that was the exact opposite of the winning strategy. The USSR had the advantage in a nuclear exchange for most of the Cold War, but we could take the economic hit from a few Koreas and Vietnams a lot better than the Soviets could.

Sebastian Hernandez
Sebastian Hernandez

how would you fix the US military's r&d woes?
Fuck the jews.
Fuck liberals.
Fuck darkies.
Colonial bloodline only R&D.
Pragmatism over progress.
Unified munitions and fuel.
Cheap, dependable, durable.
US only industry.

Camden Clark
Camden Clark

no actual national defense firm
not arresting and executing everyone involved with Lockheeb and other kikes

Chase Peterson
Chase Peterson

implying pragmatism isnt progress

Jason Hernandez
Jason Hernandez

I suppose I should have done (((progress))).

Julian Perry
Julian Perry

1. End lobbying.

2. Provide full public detailed analysis and live-streamed testing of weapons to the public.

3. Any pattern to be included into the US military arsenal is to be void of copyright and becomes public property (thus any mom and pop shop can make said guns/arsenal).

Adam Morales
Adam Morales

If you were elected president(or appointed secretary of defense), how would you fix the US military's r&d woes?
Declare war on a rival superpower. Bonus: Israel is their co-belligerent.

I would start designing things in the military and putting out contracts for manufacturers
Might make it slightly better but how would it stop the MIC? First, manufacturers would just charge 10x as much (muh milspec) while cutting corners on everything. The same few uncompetitive corporations would get all contracts anyway by pure (((coincidence))). The careerist military leadership would probably keep on designing, with encouragement of corrupt congress, the same wasteful designs in close cooperation with the manufacturers.

Especially if you are thinking of a sudden restructuring. All that money, power and influence in the MIC right now. Once you cuck them out of it, where do they go? Do you expect them to just say oh well and look for a new job? They would throw the nation into chaos as they scramble to shut it the fuck down.

If you wanted to fix it the culture needs to change, and the military needs to be reformed to encourage that change. Tell all the academies to teach efficiency and minimizing waste. Start evaluating officers on efficiency when promoting. Get rid of stupid rules like punishing people for a budget surplus. Make it easier for less connected officers to finger corrupt ones, whistleblow, investigate, etc by creating procedural protection against retaliation and make sure they're followed.

I'll give you a QRD:
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Evan Bailey
Evan Bailey

In the following order:

Improve bureaucratic efficiency.
Enforce streamlined RnD/manufacturing.
Decrease budgets according to project importance, priority, and proven capability.
Increase order count with the funds saved from prior steps.

This would hinder feature-creeping, improve development pace, and incentivize contractors with larger orders.

Isaac Gutierrez
Isaac Gutierrez

Cont. I would also improve the amount of servicemen feedback, and creat a program to randomly select servicemen with past deployment experience who are not under orders (not busy) to general test RnD equipment.

Lucas Murphy
Lucas Murphy

Offer a different sort of contract. Instead of pouring more and more money in, I'd say
"Make me a new weapon that can do this and this and this and has these and these parametres. If you are given the contract, you will earn 1 billion USD. No further funds will ever be given, ever. You have three years to deliver the final product. For every month of delay past the deadline, you will be fined for $10 million."
A company that would accept the contract would then either deliver what I want for the price I set, or keep forking out more and more money until it either delivered the product or went bankrupt, likely paying me back the whole amount in the process.

Dylan Johnson
Dylan Johnson

Scrap the F-35
Obligatory.
Revive ASF-14
Also Obligatory.
Blend F-15X, F-15SE and F-15S/MT
Good but don't forget to restart production of anti-satellite missiles.
Blend F-16V with YF-16 CCV, HiMAT, F-16 VISTA and maybe F-16 SFW, revive the F-16XL.
The F-16XL might make for a decent export aircraft though long term I'd rather have light air defense/multirole be handled by revived F-20s.
Put F-22 back to production and revive FB-22. Lockheeb must do these for free.
Revive the YF-23
I wouldn't bother with the F-22 as it's a high maintenance pile of dogshit without IRST and inferior WVR performance to contemporary 4++ gen Russian aircraft, it'd be better to discard the F-22A and have the FB-22 be the dedicated stelf bomber with the F-23 as a dedicated fighter/interceptor.
Make a 6th-gen fighter based on the X-36.
Yiss.
Buy production license for Su-35, MiG-35/29K and Rafale and make better domestic versions.
Why? I can see it in the case of the R-73 and S-300 as burger tech in that regard has crashed with no survivors, but old blueprints from Northrop should be fine in terms of planes.
Airplane development has stagnated anyway since the 1970s so upgraded F-15s with canards and IRST would be more than capable of dealing with upgraded Su-27s.
Thrust vectoring and sidewinders for air defense are now obligatory for all combat aircraft.
Maybe exclude CAS craft like the A-10 or planes that are already STOL capable, but other than that ye-
<Also rear-guns for larger aircraft.
All capital ships, especially supercarriers, are now obliged to be at least minimally self-reliable for their defense against aircraft and smaller vessels.
Don't forget to mandate every warship with a majority missile armament to be constructed as an arsenal ship.
Declare war on Sunni Islam. Nuke the cube.
Personally I think it'd be better to nuke the Federal reserve, start printing money on demand at zero interest at a nationalized bank then pretend to ally yourself with the Palestinians and declare holy war on Israel.
Hand surplus meme funs from shit tier manufacturers to Muds in anti-kike volunteer militias and have the Muds and Kikes shoot each other in front of local Synagogues/Film studios/Financial institutions.
All the surviving Muds will be sent to Israel to die there, then once Israel falls offer all the Burger mudslimes free citizenship in the Holy Land with a lifetime supply of Halal foodstamps, send them off only for you to start the Byzantine Reconquista together with an independent, nuclear-armed Greece.

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Justin White
Justin White

independent, nuclear-armed Greece.

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Jason Cox
Jason Cox

Make a nationalized defense R&D group.
Scrap current bullshit projects.
Give a predetermined budget for producing what you want. No going over that budget.
Make everyone get drunk when designing and encourage meme-tier shitpost weapons that actually work.
Recreate the IDW as the standard PDW to use.

Leo Wood
Leo Wood

IDW
Why not the P90 chambered in 10mm?

Dominic Rogers
Dominic Rogers

not .460 S&W

Chase Williams
Chase Williams

not .600 nitro express

Adam Butler
Adam Butler

Those digits can't lie.

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Jaxson Roberts
Jaxson Roberts

well said.

How many Jews and other non-Whites were involved in producing the P-51 in just 4 months?

Alexander Hall
Alexander Hall

Maybe exclude CAS craft like the A-10 or planes that are already STOL capable
A-10 already has Sidewinders and there's no harm in further improving its STOL and instantaneous turn rate, especially when there's no reason to be arsed at all with its sustained turn rate.

upgraded F-15s with canards and IRST would be more than capable of dealing with upgraded Su-27s.
More than capable yes, but still somewhat inferior, also asymmetric training. Agreed though that the F-15 would Su-27 redundant, as would Rafale and MiG-29K make F-18 family redundant.

Connor Brooks
Connor Brooks

If you were elected president(or appointed secretary of defense), how would you fix the US military's r&d woes?
maybe you are asking the wrong question.

Why does the USA spend 3X on military as next 3 nations COMBINED but we can't stop an invasion on our own border in wide open desert?

Like Public Schools, the excess money is what is giving bad results. PS are now a target for scammers selling garbage, due to all the money flying around without any Adult Supervision.

Public Schools and Military have been Jew magnets for over 100yrs.

Jayden Wood
Jayden Wood

I doubt Russians would want the US to purchase Flankers just for training purposes.
Besides, the F-15S should only be a long-term stopgap measure until the F-36 and other 5th gen planes enter service assuming there is that much of a need for 5th gen stealth shit in the future.
As for the A-10, adding TV nozzles to its engines might be more of a hassle than it's worth, especially if they end up making the engines less resistant to damage.

Wyatt Wilson
Wyatt Wilson

I'll throw one in:

Roll back anti-fun laws so the next Maxim or Owen has a chance to spark real innovation without risking a massive buttfucking by BATF.

Henry Sullivan
Henry Sullivan

The USSR had the advantage in a nuclear exchange for most of the Cold War
The US had a larger amount of nukes for the first half of the Cold War though.

start printing money on demand at zero interest at a nationalized bank
how to cause hyperinflation

Why does the USA spend 3X on military as next 3 nations COMBINED but we can't stop an invasion on our own border in wide open desert?
Because it's the kike's policeman.

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Xavier Martinez
Xavier Martinez

Soviet design bureaus in America. Are you a Bernie Bro?

Ayden Rogers
Ayden Rogers

Drop 5.56x45 for 6.5x39 (6.5 Grendel)
Drop 7.62x51 for 8.58x70 (.338 Lapua)
Develop 30rd AR mags for 6.5 Grendel
Drop the M240B for a PKM-like variant

Joseph Reed
Joseph Reed

Grendel is never happening and it shouldn't.

Jayden Carter
Jayden Carter

Scrap the F-35.
Revive ASF-14 for the Navy.
Blend F-15X, F-15SE and F-15SMT.
Revive the YF-23.
Buy production license for the latest S-300 variant they will spare and make a better S-400 out of it.
Thrust vectoring and sidewinders for air defense are now obligatory for all combat aircraft.
Declare war on Sunni Islam. Nuke the cube.
Are all fairly common feelings within the NASIC / Air Force / DIA analyst community. Obviously without touching on classified material that would get a guy vanned, the only justification I've heard talking to people (outside of the folks getting paychecks) for the F-35 is that it's the fighter equivalent of the moon landing, where it accomplishes fuck all for the money, but you walk away with hundreds of new technologies that can be put to real use on real projects. Maybe with the slice of cash going to Northrop or Raytheon or BAE that will be true.

Ethan Thompson
Ethan Thompson

The US had a larger amount of nukes for the first half of the Cold War though.
Yes but you need to factor in the vectors, most US nukes were gravity bombs, most Soviet nukes were missiles warheads.
Even back then everyone doubted the capacities of the SAC to actually manage to hit targets inside the USSR with B-36, B-47 and early B-52s especially after the soviets shot down a U-2 despite being much smaller and flying about twice as high (doubts were confirmed when they dumped their obsolete SA-2 in Vietnam and those were still capable to hit heavily modded B-52G that had been modded for them…).
So the US efforts concentrated on putting as much warheads on missiles as possible from the late 60's, while keeping the gravity bombs to a core minimum… the same core minimum as today except they phased out almost all the missiles (and that's only because subs can't fly, sadly).

Dominic Rogers
Dominic Rogers

Naw, just convert over to AK mags.

Kayden Green
Kayden Green

hyperinflation
when the enemy isn't forcing you to hand over half of your economic output while threatening to occupy the Saarland
when you have full control over the dollar presses because no fractional reserve banking
It worked for the Colonies, why shouldn't it work now?

Jack Wilson
Jack Wilson

Retard price signals are for individual active agents who earned the money they're spending.

Imagine if your wife was friends with the shopping mall owner. Your wife gets him to beat you up and steal your credit card, so she could shop at the mall. She then empties the card on overpriced goods the mall owner provides, because it's not her money and she doesn't care about fucking price signals.

This is the military industrial complex.

Sebastian Turner
Sebastian Turner

Name one instance where printing money to pay off debts didn't lead to an inflation crisis. America certainly got hit hard every time we tried it.

Isaac Myers
Isaac Myers

Nazi Germany.

Isaiah Smith
Isaiah Smith

debts
Debt to who?

If it's debt to the national reserve, then you just got cucked.

Liam Parker
Liam Parker

This idea of national debt where the government borrows money from a bank, that should be owned by the government, is vexing to say the least.

Ryder James
Ryder James

It worked for the Colonies
Both state and Continental currency depreciated rapidly, becoming practically worthless by the end of the war. This depreciation was caused by the government printing large amounts of currency in order to meet the demands of war.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_American_currency
That's why the gold and silver standard was established in the United States.

Ideally it's to prevent the government being ripped off by private banks or the government printing money without any backing but the government is retarded and the central bank becomes a pawn of the Rothschilds anyway.

Adam Thompson
Adam Thompson

There is too much needless complexity in this relationship.

Provided the state is the husband and the bank the wife, the husband does not borrow money from the wife, he takes from her, and the wife doesn't give him interests either.

The fact the state does not have authority on currency is why we are so much cucked nowadays.

And lo, even the goddamn communists have this system of state borrowing money from banks.

Christian Jenkins
Christian Jenkins

The M2 Bradley was supposed to be a general replacement for the Gavin, a generalist design that could be adapted to for whatever you wanted.

A bunch of fucknuts destroyed this, and were never taken to task for it, similar to how they were never taken to task, and I mean horse whipped in public, over the stupidity of the M-16.

The entire point, was to procure mass replacement of a simple boxy battle taxi, AS A BASE MODEL. From which you could customized however you liked. Instead, a bunch of fuck nuggets rammed in a semi-specialized design that was built entirely around fighting other IFVs and carrying heavy Anti-Tank weaponry with a small amount of infantry for support. Then they made another model that was even more specialized.

But because there was no small, simple base model with decent internal capacity, they couldn't replace all the Baby Boxy Gavins. So the procurement program was a total fucking failure.

The F-35 isn't nearly such a failure, although it is orders of magnitudes more expensive, it at least performs the role it was acquired for in the first place.

If you wanted the F-35 to be better, all that had to be done was drop the A and the B, and acquire the navalized C variant for everybody. And set the Harriers on fire. We would have had the F-35's five years earlier and under half the budget costs.

but muh Europoor export customers
fuck them
but muh any other retarded with fake midget "carriers"
fuck them
but muh Muhreens
Slap them right in the fucking mouth.

Neither of these is as bad as the fucking Stryker though. It was and remains total hot fucking garbage.

Oliver Jenkins
Oliver Jenkins

Bradley is okay as infantry support vehicle for low intensity conflict tbh.

Still, I fail to see the need for any new fighter.

It's not like Russia and China are eagerly making top tier fighters to compete, just upgrade the damn F16 and be done with it.

Lincoln Brown
Lincoln Brown

Drop 5.56x45 for 6.5x39 (6.5 Grendel)

Drop 7.62x51 for 8.58x70 (.338 Lapua
What the fuck? Just drop both and replace both with Grendel

Develop 30rd AR mags for 6.5 Grendel

Drop the M240B for a PKM-like variant
Just make a quick barrel change and magazine and drum fed weapon with a longstroke piston, chamber it in Grendel.

USe 30, 60, 100 round mags/drums, and bam, you have your rifle and GPMG in one round

For any level of anti-material work that isn't good enough foor, .50 cal or explosives

Noah Wilson
Noah Wilson

The interest is because additional money is supposed to flow into the system from outside the country if it's working right.

If the state is supposed to be the husband Congress certainly doesn't act like one, which is why it's a bitch for the banks.

Carson Howard
Carson Howard

Still, I fail to see the need for any new fighter
Everything but the Super Hornets are falling out of the sky due to metal fatigue and other general wear and tear. The cheap, and smart, option would be filling out the ranks with Super Hornets, but its too late for that now. F35 is in production, and we have that stealth drone thing that exists now.

Asher Garcia
Asher Garcia

Bradley is okay as infantry support vehicle for low intensity conflict tbh.
infantry support vehicle for low intensity conflict
Considering a pickup truck with a bed-mounted DShK works as a ISV over there, I think that's a pretty low bar to only clear with "okay".

Xavier Hall
Xavier Hall

Any part that is wear and tear can be replaced.

The idea of wasting billions to "research" then billions more to make new air frames is a joke compared to just repair the existing ones.

Daniel Morales
Daniel Morales

It makes no sense regardless.

If the state and bank are one, it would feel additional money regardless if there is a separation or not.

If the state is supposed to be the husband Congress certainly doesn't act like one, which is why it's a bitch for the banks.
Hence the problem.

Josiah Peterson
Josiah Peterson

repair the existing ones.
Not going to work with planes like the F-22 whose production lines were shut down.

Jack Adams
Jack Adams

Well, Bradly can effectively fight unorganized tanks.

Angel Bennett
Angel Bennett

With the airframe itself you can't really repair that. The moment it has stress fractures its garbage.

Landon Jackson
Landon Jackson

Start the magick of restarting the production lines.

Parker Edwards
Parker Edwards

Man, I wonder what the ruskies think about that.

Landon Adams
Landon Adams

That ain't happening. Lockheeb destroyed all the tooling for the F-22.

Parker Anderson
Parker Anderson

let's do the magick of remaking the toolings then.

I think they are doing this in order to give all reasons to waste billions of "new" fighter jets.

Daniel Wood
Daniel Wood

And what's the actual role of the F-35, btw?

If they want to bomb, why not just mass predator drones?

Don't tell me they actually believe dog fighting is still a thing.

Hudson James
Hudson James

Should go back to metallism instead of this debt back currency to be honest.

Sebastian Collins
Sebastian Collins

No, fiat currency is okay as long as the people trust in it.

Fiat currency can be a great tool as long as there's violence making people "believe" in it.

Mason Flores
Mason Flores

the actual role of the F-35, btw?
"""""multi-role"""""

Sebastian Davis
Sebastian Davis

Money laundering the make Israel's economy look good.

Sebastian Powell
Sebastian Powell

Gavin
Fuck off Mike.

Austin Young
Austin Young

The problem is that the Super Hornet is on the same performance envelope as the F-35.

Christian Gomez
Christian Gomez

Fuck off Mike, you're a fucking retard.

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William Howard
William Howard

killing the fed and then instead of going back to the gold standard, making a new central bank with the same old fiat money

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Jacob King
Jacob King

he wouldn't depreciate the US Dollar and replace it with the debt-free American Reichsdollar at a 5:1 USD-RD exchange ratio 4:1 for trad white families
he wouldn't restrict himself to superior barter trading on the international level to further evade Jewish schemes
>he wouldn't get "invaded" by NATO only to crush them and conquer the EU
>he wouldn't ally himself with Greece, Syria, Iran and Russia to remove Turks and Jews from the face of the earth
>he wouldn't nuke the Bugman hive and let Taiwan and North Korea land grab balkanized chink territory as they please

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Cameron Martin
Cameron Martin

he wouldn't depreciate the US Dollar and replace it with the debt-free American Reichsdollar at a 5:1 USD-RD
I would abolish the dollar and replace it with gold and silver measured out in normal weights.
barter
superior
So superior that not even spear chucking subsaharan nogs use pure barter as a first resort.
he wouldn't get "invaded" by NATO only to crush them and conquer the EU
he wouldn't ally himself with Greece, Syria, Iran and Russia to remove Turks and Jews from the face of the earth
implying I wouldn't
he wouldn't nuke the Bugman hive and let Taiwan and North Korea land grab balkanized chink territory as they please
he wouldn't restore the legitimate Chinese government in exile and eradicate the communists

Lucas Hall
Lucas Hall

mike?

Joseph Harris
Joseph Harris

gold and silver measured out in normal weights.
Which would severely de-incentivize space exploration.
Why mine asteroids if by doing so you devalue your money?
Man-hours spent on national projects is the superior monetary foundation.
So superior that not even spear chucking subsaharan nogs use pure barter as a first resort.
Barter on an international level is superior. Trade agreements are not dollar amounts but materials.
Apply insane import tariffs to anything but raw materials.
Apply insane export tariffs to anything but finished product.

You give your competitors the ability to spend the money you give them in ways which harm you when you trade in money internationally.
Finished goods from Mexico at 50% cost for the next 10 years? Garbage deal.
1000 tons of heirloom corn for 20 tons of horse shit. Excellent deal.

Asher Garcia
Asher Garcia

gold
silver
not platinum

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William Martin
William Martin

fiat currency
metals
man hours
Pathetic. I have something better. Imagine an economy based on shitposts and autism.

Xavier Price
Xavier Price

That's still fiat currency.

Landon Young
Landon Young

Man-hours spent on national projects is the superior monetary foundation.
<Labour theory of worth
Found the commie.

Jacob Lee
Jacob Lee

Why mine asteroids if by doing so you devalue your money
There are plenty of nonmonetary uses for precious metals, and nonprecious metals that are still useful.
Apply insane import tariffs to anything but raw materials
You've fucked over the Average Joe consumer by drastically raising the price of manufactured goods.
Apply insane export tariffs to anything but finished product
You're kneecapping the industries that harvest those raw materials and fucking over the people who work in those industries.
You give your competitors the ability to spend the money you give them in ways which harm you when you trade in money internationally
Even if this isn't paranoid rambling, you've still got the age old problem of what to do when the person you want to trade with doesn't want any of your stuff.

Robert Cooper
Robert Cooper

How new are you?
There is only one person in the entire internet that refers to M113 as "Gavins".
Michael L. Sparks, AKA, Mike "Gavin" Sparks AKA Sparky, AKA DynmicPara, AKA BlackTailDefense, AKA Combat Reform Group, AKA 1st Tactical Studies Group (Airborne), AKA JamesBondIsReal AKA, Sam Damon Jr. AKA paratroop2000, AKA truthteller AKA RavenTactical, AKA nomorenarcissism101.

He's batshit insane autist that might have been a Georgia National Guardsmen (even if he says he was USMC recon NCO as much as I can say I'm batman) that has a hardon so hard for the M113 he tried to petition to have it renamed and replace EVERYTHING the US armed forces has, including A-10s.

So far that would make him Zig Forums material but he went of the deep end after starting believing that his LARP was real and being really obnoxious about him. To the point you find serious entries in M113 description saying "It was NEVER called the Gavin".
tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar/US/M113_APC.php
tanknutdave.com/the-us-m113-series-a-family-of-apc-based-vehicles/

Got chased out in shame of AR-15, MP.net and other forums back in the dark ages, he's an original lolcow.

Jayden Kelly
Jayden Kelly

You've fucked over the Average Joe consumer by drastically raising the price of manufactured goods.
Who gives a fuck about average Joe normalfags? What? He doesn't want the goods produced in his own country only? We wants something foreign? Well he can either cough up the cash or get fucked.
You're kneecapping the industries that harvest those raw materials and fucking over the people who work in those industries.
Fuck 'em too. They better pay for trying to export out raw materials that belong to the country.
Even if this isn't paranoid rambling, you've still got the age old problem of what to do when the person you want to trade with doesn't want any of your stuff.
Force him to trade with you in a beneficial way or nuke him.
It's better to have everyone out for themselves. Trading with others is gay, anyway since you lose YOUR stuff. Taking from others is ok, though.

Alexander Rogers
Alexander Rogers

Who gives a fuck about average Joe normalfags
Yeah, how dare those people want cheap, high quality goods?
that belong to the country
shut the fuck up commie
Force him to trade with you in a beneficial way or nuke him
Oh you're just a retard. Never mind then.

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Henry Lopez
Henry Lopez

breitbart.com/tech/2017/03/27/venezuelans-using-rare-pepes-bitcoin-currency/
dailycaller.com/2017/03/23/venezuelan-currency-slowly-getting-replaced-by-pepe-memes/

Chase Smith
Chase Smith

You've fucked over the Average Joe consumer by drastically raising the price of manufactured goods.
Not if the goods are manufactured locally and independent of globalist markets, having an O'Neill cylinder send pods of Asteroid/Moon-mined Silver, Platinum and Molybdenum to a LEO dock for SSTO transports can also help keep prices down.
Another option would be to discourage consumerism and have the economy revolve around the production of small volumes of robust, long-lasting high quality goods at reasonably high prices.
This would also help combat global warming while saving polar bears and rainforests in one fell swoop.

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Wyatt Sanders
Wyatt Sanders

Not if the goods are manufactured locally and independent of globalist markets
lol just grow tropical fruit in vermont, comparative advantage makes my brain hurt

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Bentley Peterson
Bentley Peterson

If you can't grow it and it's not in your local markets, then don't bother wanting it. If you really want it that bad, move to a place that does have them. What are you, an idiot?

Austin Rogers
Austin Rogers

Colonialism did have its merits.
With O'Neill cylinders even large-scale agriculture would have considerably reduced environmental concerns as instead of cutting down rainforest to plant Palm Trees while spewing Roundup and other gay shit in the environment you could just build an O'Neill cylinder, fill it with appropriate soil+Flora and Fauna then proceed to grow fucktons of produce thanks to an artificially controlled climate in an enclosed biosphere at a Lagrangian point with no direcŧ environmental impact on Earth's natural environment whatsoever.
If you're a kike you could send food from space to niggers and NATO, make them dependent on it then bully them into signing treaties favorable to you.

Anthony Morris
Anthony Morris

HAPAS ARE SUPERIOR TO WHITES

Jeremiah Long
Jeremiah Long

Sure, sure, tropical fruit is a luxury good. But let's say you need high quality iron and the only local sources are full of impurities and completely unsuitable for what you're doing. Wouldn't it be easier to focus on something you can do well for cheap and using the money from selling that to import things which you can't practically acquire yourself?

Andrew Lewis
Andrew Lewis

Gavin

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Brody Brooks
Brody Brooks

HAPAS ARE SUPERIOR TO WHITES

Landon Sullivan
Landon Sullivan

God tier get
Impressive, very nice.

Jeremiah Turner
Jeremiah Turner

get rid of all jews/marxists, enforce eugenics
Religion and military training are now compulsory
Nationalize R&D and weapons manufacturing
Get input from people who are familiar with guns and using them on the battlefield when designing weapons
mechnical engineers and warriors work together closely to create Holy (and robust) weapons in the name of The Lord
Not only do you have good weapons, but a spiritually & ethnically dedicated population to use them

Sebastian Martinez
Sebastian Martinez

<Man-hours spent on national projects is the superior monetary foundation.
replacing a mile of tram tracks now takes more than the Sagrada Família

Luke Richardson
Luke Richardson

The first and most important thing that any leader could possibly do to positively affect any government institution is to remove women from being able to affect policy change. Basically end womens suffrage and the world becomes a better place.

Nolan Clark
Nolan Clark

what about Galili inventing a special galil that fits milkers?

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Alexander Morris
Alexander Morris

You want to grow tropical fruits in Vermont, you build a glasshouse.
You don't have good ores? You do what japan did, you invent a process allowing to refine what you have.

Imagination is the true resource of humanity, which is why disgenics is such a threat to humanity as a whole.
Civilized humans adapt their environment to their needs, going the other way around is what nomads do. It's anti-progress and anti-civilization.

Zachary Jenkins
Zachary Jenkins

assuming there is that much of a need for 5th gen stealth shit in the future
5th gen aircrafts' main purpose should be as tech-estbeds for 6th generation technology since they can hardly even serve as stopgap between 4.5th gen and 6th. Japan probably has the best approach on the issue. In that aspect scrapping the YF-23 and hybrid high-performance variable cycle jet engines like the F120 were the biggest mistakes.

Anthony Price
Anthony Price

That has got to be, one of the most retarded things I have ever seen. I bet some Jew told the Israeli government "we could make a rifle that's better suited for women! And it will meet all military requirements! It's a win win!" And the fucking went for it.

Blake Smith
Blake Smith

galili actually built it custom for a military satire article

Carson Allen
Carson Allen

I retract my previous statement. Polite sage.

Asher Gonzalez
Asher Gonzalez

I hope Nips can make Ace Combat 3 real in the near future.

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Landon Taylor
Landon Taylor

I dont see the problem

Jackson Perez
Jackson Perez

we should've gone for Operation Unthinkable

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Gabriel Anderson
Gabriel Anderson

Most likely the last game in the franchise where the OC fictional planes did not look completely retarde okay the Delphinus series seemed pretty fucky but at least they were original instead of stuffing them with rule of cool.

Gavin Rivera
Gavin Rivera

I think the best thing to do would be to use my presidential powers to remove restrictions on weapon sales. this would allow the US populace to provide a competitive weapons market. no one would challenge the US military, but access to restricted arms would stimulate the arms business leading to more R&D.

step two would be let relevant equipment be ordered and maintained by the units. for example the general gets to out line the platform the commanders get to work off of, but the commanders get to make the actual purchase of said platforms.

this would be a dynamic purchasing system. this would allow both flexibility units need, but retain replaceable parts and prevent block purchasing and favoritism based on purely political reasoning.

I would also increase the cyber-warfare and space warfare budget and reduce the army, air-force, and state militia subsidization.

basically the purchase of a product would scale based on operation strategic and tactical intent.

as an example camo is a strategic and tactical factor so only officers can approve its implementation, but they do so as separate functions and are not forced to accept one standard pattern or one standard uniform across the entire branch, but upper command gets to dictate what uniforms styles can be chosen from.

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