Verses proving salvation to anyone that believes and not of works

Before someone posts James 2 youtu.be/dPqSelVJvoA

These are all the verses I found that prove sola fide. If you have more then please add to it. And if you don't believe sola fide then you're welcome to say why a certain verse is wrong but "he meant the opposite of what he said" is not an argument.

John
1:12
3:15-16/18/36
4:14(John 6:35)
5:24
6:28-29/35/38-40/44-45/47
7:38-39
8:24
10:27-29
11:25-27/40
12:46
14:1-3
16:27
20:31

Matthew
5:19
7:21-23(John 6:38-40)
8:10-13
9:2
12:37
21:31-32

Mark
1:15
2:5
10:24-25
16:16

Luke
3:3(Acts 19:4)
5:20
7:48-50
8:12
18:10-14/42
19:42
23:40-43

Acts
2:21
3:19
10:43
11:16-17
13:38-39/48
15:7-9
16:30-31
19:4(Luke 3:3)
26:18

Romans
1:16-17
3:20/22/24-28/30
4:2-14/16/24
5:1/15-18
6:14/23
8:31-33
9:30-33
10:3-4/9-10/13
11:6

1 Corinthians
1:14/17/21
3:14-15
15:1-2

2 Corinthians
4:13-14

1 Thessalonians
4:14

2 Thessalonians
1:10
2:12

Ephesians
1:13-14
2:8-9
4:7

Galatians
2:16/21
3:6-11/14/21-22/24/26
5:3-6

Philippians
3:3/9

Titus
3:5

1 Timothy
1:16

2 Timothy
1:9
3:15

Hebrews
4:3
10:38-39
11:7

1 Peter
1:3-5/8-9
2:6-7
3:21(Colossians 2:12)

1 John
4:2-3/15
5:1/4-5/10-11/13

Revelation
2:11
3:5
21:7

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Do we need to make this a general also, since we have this thread almost every other week?

Protestants think they are God.

No, but we have God in us.

But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Also baptists aren't protestant

no you don't

John 7
38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

You do know that Saint Paul was talking about works of the Law (that is, Mosaic Law) and not good works in general, right?
Consider the following passages:
While I can agree that faith is the beginning of justification, it doesn't end merely with the affirmation of faith.
The seed of faith is watered by good works (i.e., following the commands of the Lord Jesus).
After all, what man can say he simply believes and doesn't follow the Lord's commands? He confesses with his words but his heart and hands have not been set to the grindstone.

Dude. No one denies faith in Jesus. Ok? It has to be Faith AND Works.
You can't just believe in Jesus and then go rape 50 women and call yourself saved.

but Jesus saved us all for sin, once and for all, so when we sin it's not actually sin, but an already forgiven sin because Jesus saved us from all sin

so I can masturbate ok?


- this is your brain on OSAS

Psalms 15: A Psalm of David. O LORD, who may abide in Your tent? Who may dwell on Your holy hill? He who walks with integrity, and works righteousness, And speaks truth in his heart. He does not slander with his tongue, Nor does evil to his neighbor, Nor takes up a reproach against his friend; In whose eyes a reprobate is despised, But who honors those who fear the LORD; He swears to his own hurt and does not change; He does not put out his money at interest, Nor does he take a bribe against the innocent. He who does these things will never be shaken.

Psalms 106:28-31: They yoked themselves to the Baal of Peor and ate sacrifices offered to lifeless gods; they aroused the Lord’s anger by their wicked deeds, and a plague broke out among them. But Phinehas stood up and intervened, and the plague was checked. This was credited to him as righteousness for endless generations to come.

Matthew 5:16: "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."

Matthew 5:48: (part of the Expounding of the Law within the Sermon on the Mount): "Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect." (Compare Imitatio dei)

Matthew 7:21: (part of the Sermon on the Mount): "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."

Matthew 7:24-27: (part of the Sermon on the Mount): "Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash."

Matthew 12:36-37: "I tell you, on the day of judgment you will have to give an account for every careless word you utter; For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."

Matthew 16:27: "For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what he has done."

Matthew 19:16-21: "And behold, one came to him and said, Teacher, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why askest thou me concerning that which is good? One there is who is good: but if thou wouldest enter into life, keep the commandments. He saith unto him, Which? And Jesus said, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honor thy father and mother; and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. The young man saith unto him, All these things have I observed: what lack I yet? Jesus said unto him, If thou wouldest be perfect, go, sell that which thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.”

Matthew 21:28-31: "‘But what do you think? A certain man had two sons, and he came to the first and said: "Son, go work today in my vineyard." He answered: "I will not," but afterwards he repented and went. So he came to the second and said likewise, and he answered and said: "I go, sir," but did not go. Which of the two has done the will of his father?’ They said to him: ‘The first.’ Jesus said to them: ‘Verily, I say to you: The publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.’"

Matthew 24:10-20: (part of the Olivet discourse): "Then many will fall away, and they will betray one another and hate one another. And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. And because of the increase of lawlessness, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end will be saved."

Matthew 25:31-46: (part of The Sheep and the Goats): "When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'"

Matthew 28:19-20a: (part of the Great Commission): "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you."

Luke 8:21: "But He answered and said to them, 'My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it.' "

Luke 10:25-28: "On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. 'Teacher,' he asked, 'what must I do to inherit eternal life?' 'What is written in the Law?' he replied. 'How do you read it?' He answered: 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' 'You have answered correctly,' Jesus replied. 'Do this and you will live.'"

John 5:29: "And will come out, those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation."

John 13:35 "By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."

Acts 26:20: "First to those in Damascus, then to those in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and to the Gentiles also, I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds."

Romans 2:6-16: For he will render to every man according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are factious and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury. There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, but glory and honor and peace for every one who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek. For God shows no partiality. All who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law. For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified. When Gentiles who have not the law do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness and their conflicting thoughts accuse or perhaps excuse them on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus.

Galatians 6:7b-9: "A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up."

1 Corinthians 6:9-10: "Do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind; nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

1 Corinthians 7:19: "Circumcision means nothing and uncircumcision means nothing; what matters is keeping God's commandments."

1 Corinthians 13:2-3: "And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. If I give away all my possessions, and if I hand over my body so that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing."

1 Corinthians 13:13: "And now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; and the greatest of these is love."

2 Corinthians 5:10: "For we must all appear before the judgement seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad."

Philippians 2:12b-13: "Work out your salvation with fear and trembling, For God is one who, for his good purpose, works in you both to desire and to work."

1 Timothy 4:16: "Attend to yourself and to your teaching; persevere in both tasks, for by doing so you will save both yourself and those who listen to you."

1 Timothy 6:18-19: "That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate; Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life."

Hebrews 10:24: "And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds."

James 1:22: "Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says."

James 2:14-26: What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only. Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way? For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

1 Peter 1:17: "Now if you invoke as Father him who judges impartially according to each one's works, conduct yourselves with reverence during the time of your sojourning."

1 Peter 2:12: "Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation."

1 John 2:3-7: "We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. The man who says, 'I know him,' but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But if anyone obeys his word, God's love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did. Dear friends, I am not writing you a new command but an old one, which you have had since the beginning. This old command is the message you have heard."

1 John 3:17-18: "If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person? Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth."

Revelation 2:23: "Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds."

Revelation 14:12-13: "Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and hold fast to the faith of Jesus. And I heard a voice from heaven saying, ‘Write this: Blessed are the dead who from now on die in the Lord.’ ‘Yes,’ says the Spirit, ‘they will rest from their labours, for their deeds follow them.’"

Revelation 20:13: "All the dead were judged according to their deeds."

Revelation 22:12-15: "Behold, I am coming soon. I bring with me the recompense I will give to each according to his deeds. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they who do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, sorcerers, whoremongers, murderers, idolaters, and whosoever loves and makes a lie."

Litterally when did Insay that you shouldn't do works? Just because you aren't saved by works doesn't mean you shouldn't do them.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

When did the Catholic Church say that you shouldn't have faith? It's always preached Faith with good works.

So when he says "not of works" he means the law and when he says "works" he means not the law. Okay buckko

I never said they said you shouldn't have faith(even though francis now says you only need to be a good boi), they always have taught faith and works which is wrong.

but you just said faith and works is right?


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im confused, is this a baptist koan?

They said their works were good, Jesus said they worked iniquity. Consider all of the liberals who say they are doing good, but they are actually doing evil. They THINK they are doing good by supporting homos and trannys and socialists and etc etc.

They are going to say, "Lord, Lord! Look at all the good things I did." You and I (and the Lord, of course) will know that those were not good works, but evil ones.

You're saved just by faith alone, but you still should do works. Saved by faith, rewarded by works.

ok, then you are in full agreement with the catholic church. the sacraments have no sanctifying grace without faith.

There aren't any and almost all the ones you posted you can't even twist to try to say it, it's just telling you to do works which you should.


No they also claimed to have cast out devils and prophesied in Jesus' name yet he still kicks them out. They're trusting in what they did instead of what just Jesus did

please tell me what great works this publican did
9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:

10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.

11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

If by faith you mean authentic obedience and submission to Christ then sure. Christ wanted disciples who would bear good fruit, not merely cheer leaders and fans and arm-chair 'believers'.

If by faith you mean the purely mental assertion that Christ is God and atoned our sins on the cross, and that he's super awesome and amazing and FANTASTIC. Then No. Many will call him Lord, Lord and will not be saved. Many branches will be cut from his Vine for not bearing good fruit.

No, catholics believe you need works to go to heaven, that's wrong. Someone that believes but has zero works is still going to heaven but they won't get any rewards

Catholics and Protestants are both wrong.
Catholics for over-emphasizing works. Protestants for over-negating works.

Because they're trusting in works

If you get the context of that parable it's about false prophets. False prophets only bring forth corrupt fruit(the fruit is people not works) so they will be burned.

with faith comes fruit if you actually have faith you will do works anyone not sure why this is such a huge deal for catholics/protestants

uh excuse me

"And giving thanks, broke, and said: Take ye, and eat: this is my body, which shall be delivered for you: this do for the commemoration of me."

"Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord. 28But let a man prove himself: and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of the chalice. 29For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord"


Christ says to eat of His body; St. Paul warns us to not eat of His Flesh and Blood if you do not believe in it, are they both liars?

but those works don't save you

5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

the works alone will not save you sure

It's a sin to take the Lord's Supper if you aren't saved. I don't see why you're posting that.

The publican recognized his bad works and asked for mercy. Asking for mercy is a work, is it not? It's certainly not faith. Of course, you need to have faith to ask for mercy, but the asking for mercy is a good work.

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And what is the Lord's Supper? St. Paul seems to be referring to a present event, something that the Corinthians were actively doing, and were condemning themselves to death in doing falsely.

So is all someone has to do to be saved is believe and ask God to forgive them?

Nope. The publican went home justified, not saved.

No, because they're lacking in works, is what the passage goes on to say, not because they trusted in works. Although trusting in works will negate authentic faith.

That's the same thing

They were literally saying how Jesus should let them in because they did many wonderful works

wrong

This has been said before, but just because something is said less often in the Bible it doesn't mean God was just kidding. It still counts.

those weren't works, those were expressions of special gifts. When God means 'works' he means doing unto others, feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, sacrificing yourself for the good, etc. Not prophecying or speaking in tongues or performing wonderous acts.

I agree our works don't save us, good works aren't even ours they belong to God. But I'm against the very protestant idea that arm-chair faith can save you.
I'm ok with sola fide if the faith means obedience and submission to Christ, not simply admiration or mental assent to claims about him.
I can agree that Christ is our savior and died for our sins, yet this faith will not save me until it involves obedience and submission to him, which necessitates many good works.

Honestly, this is like all of those pseudo-Christians who think that God is okay with homosexuality because He only said that it was an abomination, like, four to six times, but He said to "love each other," like, dozens of times!

Verses dont mesn whatever fnagasy you want them to mean, just like they dont mean what muslims want them to mean.

Saved by grace, justified by faith and works. None of us is saved,and if you are going to come up with those fantasies, you could as well write your own scripture.

So then you're saying basically that your own righteousness is what will justify you? You are putting faith in your ability to do some number of pre-defined works and therefore be saved? Or am I wrong?

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Whatever righteousness you acquire through obedience belongs to God.
But your faith has to be one of submission and obedience, not simply mental assent or mere belief to a set of historical-theological facts about Christ. Faith as mental assent is the type of faith that bears no fruit. Even demons can have this sort of faith. Faith as obedience is the type of faith that bears good fruit, not by your power, but through God's power.

So you agree that you are putting faith in the performance by you of certain works? That is what you meant by acquiring righteousness?

The performance of works comes after obedience and submission to Christ. Obedience is synergistic. Your will has to submit in order for God to work through you. The works you do are not your own, so they do not count as your credits, they are effects of your faithful obedience and submission.
A faith that is simply mental assent to historical facts is not salvific in itself, until it becomes a faith of submission.
There is a difference between a fan of a King and a disciple of a King. The fan cheers and admires, the disciple kneels and obeys.
Christ wants disciples not mere fans.

All I'm asking is if you are putting faith in the performance you do of particular works in order to acquire righteousness as you said. That's all I'm asking right now. Are you placing faith in the righteousness of the works you do for justification and salvation.

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No dude, you're literally telling me it's ok to masturbate. Wtf.
Jesus literally died for me to do that. I believe in Him from all my heart but sinning is now legal.
SINNING IS NOW LEGAL!!!
Praise Jesus!

I already said no, multiple times. The performance of works comes after obedience and submission to Christ. Obedience is synergistic. Your will has to submit in order for God to work through you….There is a difference between a fan of a King and a disciple of a King. The fan cheers and admires, the disciple kneels and obeys.

Christ wants disciples not mere fans. What part are you confused about?

Can you be saved without obedience and submission to God? Can you be saved by simply agreeing to historical facts about Christ and his divinity?

Ok, it just wasn't clear to me until you said this.
I ask this because according to the NT it says:

2 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Philippians 3:8-9
Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

So then if your faith is placed in nothing less than Jesus Christ's blood and righteousness, then you are someone who has received everlasting life. And according to Romans 8:29, you are predestinated to be conformed to the image of his Son; it's a given fact. But the important thing is that our faith is in the blood and righteousness of the Lord Jesus Christ, whose sacrifice is acceptable to God, and only then we can be confident that "he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ."

Nothing. I just wanted to confirm something about you before moving on. If you were trusting in some other righteousness than that of God, I would be getting ahead of myself by talking on anything else. I would just note when you referenced James 2 earlier, there it is talking about how devils believe that there is one God. It doesn't say their faith is in the King and Lord Jesus Christ; it's obviously in something else.

Any hint of antinomianism is a clear sign of no faith, but also it is God's place to judge their faith and I am content to leave it at that. I just want for everyone to believe in the righteousness of God, which is in Jesus Christ, because anything else, like trusting and believing in your own works (even if by God, see Matthew 7:22-23) will fall short.

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Yes, absolutely, I believe that you must receive the word of God, like Romans 10 describes, faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God. Consider some of these as relevant:

Jn. 15:7
If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

1 Jn. 2:5
But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

Acts 2:40-41
And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

Acts 13:48
And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.

If someone has been given grace and has freely taken of the water of life, by their receiving of the word of God (same as in Jn. 6:51-63), then they are kept by the power of God.

1 Peter 1:3-5
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

Jude 1
Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:

Indeed, as Christ said, "if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins."

I don't believe this much is possible without repenting of false beliefs. If you previously had your faith in something else, you by necessity must repent from that to place faith in the righteousness of God. You would have to turn from that to place your faith in Him only. I think only by the grace of God is this possible, he has to allow it.

Nope, God's knowledge of counterfactuals logically precedes the divine creative decree. Also 1 John 2:2, John 5:40, 1 Timothy 2:4, and so on.
I believe in the preservation of the saints like it says in Jude 1:1. God doesn't accidentally give grace, and I thank God for it.

Called it when I read the thread title.

FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD

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Please, look up "faith alone" in the Bible and show us the results

"this reply alone"