Patriot has been developed in 70s, it's being improved coutless times and is still sold for millions

Bruce Simpson, and he used a pulsejet.
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I wish I had your optimism. It becomes a cruise missile whenever the government wants it to be. Laws exist to be a post-hoc justification for pushing your shit in, so that the powers that be can keep their thin veneer of legitimacy - they can skip that step whenever they want (although doing it too often is bad for business).

Jesus…

That's just fucking beautiful.

Except that there's at least one replica Doodlebug in New Zealand being used for airshows and historical reenactments. Maybe none of them are evil and disgusting 'freedom extremists', but it does seem to suggest that it's not something that will necessarily get you partyvanned instantly.

I can't wait for Christchurch II: Buzzbomb Boogaloo!

Start a military arms company, get arms development and manufacturing loicense, and rake in millions of taxpayer money by making rockets. Or a bit more modest amounts by making civilian guns. The license in question mainly involves just proving that you can safely produce, store and sell weapons and paying a license fee. There are literally no roadblocks for you if you wish to make weapons legally, it's a very easy process if you run your gun factory half-properly and not like a middle eastern sweatshop.

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You need arms manufacturing loicense to make cruise missiles, not just the rocket manufacturing loicense. He thought he could cheat the system by not installing a warhead which he thought would make it legal by a technicality, but that kike crap didn't fly with kivis. Making guns without a firing pin is still gun manufacturing even if it couldn't be used as a gun out of the box without modification.

Even to a Brit that sounds retarded.

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Look at Burgeristan and their 80% lowers.

In burgerstan, "judicial" is for "jude", they think it's okay to defile the spirit of the law in any fashion as long as it conforms to the letter of the law. They also have a tendency to create laws ad-hoc to patch letter of the law loopholes, which is a perpetual game of whack-a-mole because the spirit of the law is not given an ounce of respect. They're also notorious for having laws for sale, if you have deep enough pockets you can legally buy any legislation. Over time these factors created all sorts of fucked up arbitrary and even contradictory laws. Don't hold them as a benchmark for anything other than being morally bankrupt.

I know all of that, this is what some people call legalism. And if legalism rules, then you can either get away with anything, or get punished for anything, depending on your power, connections and luck. His mistake was not realizing this, and thought that it's enough to just interpret the law in a way that fits his goals.

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Well as I said, he should've gotten arms manufacturing license, instead of expecting the specific terminology he was using for that missile to carry him out of court.

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Also, consider that a rocket without warhead is like a gun without bullets. It's designed to accept a destructive unit and isn't doing much by itself, however it's a weapon nonetheless.

You're asking for trouble m8.

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He literally called it a cruise missile and bragged to the media about how easy it would be to weaponize his design. That's the real reason why he got arrested, he was a moron who went out of his way to provoke the government and expected no consequences.

OK, yeah, so he decided to lead the retard parade on that one. Still, by that logic pretty much every remote controlled model aircraft is a cruise missile. You may not be able to fit a particularly large warhead onto the average quadrotor/hobbyist project, but that won't be much comfort to the guy standing right next to it when it detonates.

Everything can be used as a weapon, but it doesn't makes everything a weapon. The characteristic that differentiates a weapon from other things is its intended function - to kill people - for which it's optimized. A kitchen knife is designed to cut common food items, a bayonet is designed to stab people to death through their ribcage. It's not hard to grasp.

You are arguing with a Brit - he doesn't even know what those two things are, let alone have the right to own them. Also:

Those definitions are literally begging for loopholes, and if anyone abuses them at all there will automatically be laws put into place that will do away with those principles

My point exactly, a replica rifle without a firing pin is not a weapon by that definition. As it is not able to kill people except perhaps as a bludgeon depending on the design/construction quality. It's intended function is to sit on a wall as decoration, and no lawyer would be able to prove otherwise - which is why they'd just stick with the 'muh feeeeeer, muh risk!!' line for something like that.

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How would you define a word "number" without using words that involve this very word or its synonyms? Semantics like this is an academic problem and I don't have the qualifications to produce correct terminology, so pardon me for using layman language. You know what I meant by all of that. Spirit of the law and all.

That was his point.
The guy was a virtue signaling boomer, afraid evil terrorist would do the same thing.
Also he was kind of right as homemade UAV, including some with payload are definitely a thing in Syria.

He was never a Luty kind of guy, wanting to prove that the government are retards, he wanted the government to regulate more and have them give him money out of his new invention… then he changed his tune when the government fucked his ass raw.

I think we can do better than that

The word or symbol used to define a certain quantity (either physical or theoretical) in a standardised fashion.
Semantics like this can and does get people locked up for life or executed. The entirety of every legal system possible is semantics. Your rights and freedoms as a human being are defined in semantic terms. Saying 'that's just semantics' is not an argument.

Fucking hell. I retract my earlier 'that's beautiful' comment.

The Iron Dome is pure Miracle Weapon propaganda, just like the Paytriot.
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The Aegis system is the real competitor to the S-400.

Is no one else pissed off with the gay jew globalist glow in the dark AXIOM that OP started with?
Patriot has been developed in 70s, it's being improved coutless times and is still sold for millions.
He just programmed all of you.

I don't think anyone here has any doubt that Patriot are complete garbage (case in point the recent bombing of EAU and Saudi airports by the Houthis flying trashcans, that are defended by them. Including one last gen entirely US owned and operated.)
It's just more interesting to speak about DIY cruise missiles.

I wonder if some Ju-87 replicas would be enough to bypass modern NATO air defences by virtue of not being in C-RAM target ID databases.
Could they serve as decent ECM planes if you put some spark gap transmitters on them?

Would a missile platform on an aerostat be of any use? I'd assume you'd get more range from not having to go up to reach the target.

CWIS have only two modes.
"On" and "Off".
Hence the term "closed in".

B-b-but muh 6 billion Ameripeso lockheeb advanced neural network target pre-recognition software for 0.025% increase in shot accuracy!
Then why does the german MANTIS have a crew of 4?
Do you really need that many people for authorizing the fire control computer to kill a target?

Because it's not closed-in.
Phalanx style (well it's the only one) CIWS is utterly retarded and spend all it's time on "off" unless the weapon officer manning it is 100% sure it needs to be on. Because as with all automated systems, especially one that comes with a computer that can't run Candy Crush, it's shooting everything it sees, from cities in the background way out of range, to plumes of heat coming from another ship and of course on anything flying close even if it has and IFF beacon on…

Almost all those systems (even the newest version of phalanx) are manned, "looped-in" system (that are integrated with other systems… which also need operators, especially if you deploy them on the ground) and not "closed in".

Except since the burgers christened them the anagram stayed.

the kikes and the states will never allow you to get anywhere. Even if you could make money off of it, you'll get shut down.

There was some extremely rogue country called USSR, concentrated on manufacturing slavshit. Yet in 1990 more than a half of its AA systems were something like S-75 and similar stuff… Even slavshit monsters couldn't afford mass production and maintenance of the newer slavshit systems, being only capable of R&D, total cost of which did not look like 20 million.
They've chosen NASAMS 2 which is a sane purchase. Basically the theoretical OP's system would be an incredibly shitty competitor to NASAMS 2, not Patriot/S-400.

By 1990 the Soviets had ~2000 S-200 launchers and were steadily phasing in S-300s, the S-75s were sitting in mothballs alongside the T-55s and MiG-21s.

Fucking lol

Russcuckistan stopped using them in mixed brigades since 1996, and the process en masse began in 1991 due to the extreme corruption - being widely criticized.

Despite being weaker they are far from Patriot-tier overprice.

So why does Ukraine still use them?

Our oldest system still in use is S-125 (two regiments), not 75.

NASAMS make sense if there's a domestic AMRAAM factory, or if there's at least a stock of AMRAAM and a maintenance tech trained on one will be easier to retrain for the other.

Protip Canada didn't even purchase AMRAAM because if they're kept on cold airfields and taken up into even colder air at 15km altitude, their engines do not ignite. Dropping the rocket just drops it like a bomb.
It's also why Europe is struggling to develop their own medium range missiles, Russia is looking at them and thinking "wow I just have to wait for winter and I can grab anything north of Carpathians?"

This butthurt is cringe man, come on. If you can't even control and manage your own feelings how can anyone trust your opinion about anything.

It's not enough to design and prototype the system, you need to manufacture it. That costs an assload of money to setup, especially since shit for weapon production tends to have special rules when it comes to international trade. If you want to actually turn a profit, you also need to sell it, which can be a problem when every power of note is obsessed with arms sales and WILL take it personally if someone buys from you instead of them. That's not to mention, for anyone to even be interested, you system needs to either be better or cheaper (or both), meaning it's quite possible there have been many different designs and prototypes that weren't up to snuff before you made the one that was, which cost further money. In the end, you have a choice between going through all this shit and pissing off a lot of people, assuming you can actually create something to compete with USA or Russia, and simply buying that shit.

Would a fully autonomous CIWS make more sense when mounted on an airship?

Poland needs a battalion of 300km range rockets to take out airfields and S-400 in event of war with Russia. America suggested HIMARS at $13.3 million per launch unit while Yugoimport suggested Sumadija at $1.2 million per launch unit plus sweet deals like manufacturing rights. Guess who won?

I love you man, I love and check those cool infinity trips too, but… I need source for that shit now. A reliable one.

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It was from the TV, I can't fucking find it, I just spent twenty fucking minutes… fuck google.