Some variant forms of the name Odin such as the Lombardic Godan may point in the direction that the Lombardic form actually comes from Proto-Germanic *ǥuđánaz. Wōdanaz or Wōđinaz is the reconstructed Proto-Germanic name of a god of Germanic paganism, known as Odin in Norse mythology, Wōden in Old English, Wodan or Wotan in Old High German and Godan in the Lombardic language.
Godan was shortened to God over time and was adopted/retained by the Germanic peoples of the British isles as the name of their deity, in lieu of the Latin word Deus used by the Latin speaking Christian church, after conversion to Christianity.
During the complex christianization of the Germanic tribes of Europe, there were many linguistic influences upon the Christian missionaries. One example post downfall of the western Roman Empire are the missionaries from Rome led by Augustine of Canterbury. Augustine's mission to the Saxons in southern Britain was conducted at a time when the city of Rome was a part of a Lombardic kingdom. The translated Bibles which they brought on their mission were greatly influenced by the Germanic tribes they were in contact with, chief among them being the Lombards and Franks. The translation for the word deus of the Latin Bible was influenced by the then current usage by the tribes for their highest deity, namely Wodan by Angles, Saxons, and Franks of north-central and western Europe, and Godan by the Lombards of south-central Europe around Rome. There are many instances where the name Godan and Wodan are contracted to God and Wod. One instance is the wild hunt (a.k.a. Wodan's wild hunt) where Wod is used.
The earliest uses of the word God in Germanic writing is often cited to be in the Gothic Bible or Wulfila Bible, which is the Christian Bible as translated by Ulfilas into the Gothic language spoken by the Eastern Germanic, or Gothic, tribes. The oldest parts of the Gothic Bible, contained in the Codex Argenteus, is estimated to be from the fourth century. During the fourth century, the Goths were converted to Christianity, largely through the efforts of Bishop Ulfilas, who translated the Bible into the Gothic language in Nicopolis ad Istrum in today's northern Bulgaria. The words guda and guþ were used for God in the Gothic Bible.
Why are Christians/Jews praying to the pagan's Allfather?
Christian usage of the word God /=/ pagen usage of the word godan. Plus the Bible goes out of its way to make the distinction of being representative of the living God see matthew 22:31-32 Also see deutoronomy 5:26
Jeremiah Price
So you dont study the meaning of the bible? lol
Brody Johnson
The earliest uses of the word God in Germanic writing is often cited to be in the Gothic Bible or Wulfila Bible, which is the Christian Bible as translated by Ulfilas into the Gothic language spoken by the Eastern Germanic, or Gothic, tribes. The oldest parts of the Gothic Bible, contained in the Codex Argenteus, is estimated to be from the fourth century. During the fourth century, the Goths were converted to Christianity, largely through the efforts of Bishop Ulfilas, who translated the Bible into the Gothic language in Nicopolis ad Istrum in today's northern Bulgaria. The words guda and guþ were used for God in the Gothic Bible.
Jack Hernandez
lol
Nathan Moore
contradiction
GALATIONS 3: 7 Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham. 8 Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you.”[d] 9 So those who rely on faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith. 3 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”[h] 14 He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.
Adrian Flores
Semantics = study of words and meaning Bible = study of the word
LOL!
Colton Murphy
Not to mention there are like 50000 bibles with 50000 semantical side note studies. Every here of a Strong's Concordance LOL! You think that's not semantics? LOL!
Who cares about such things, rather ye shall know them by their fruits matthew 7:15-20.
Jeremiah Carter
You don't see the irony do you?
If it's a contradiction but you don't care, your fruits are rotten. It's a contradiction because Abraham is dead and its through a dead man that it comes. Christ was killed. The entire Bible is full of dead men's writings.
Oliver Phillips
Koine Greek. What about it?
Juan Reyes
You don't speak it, genius. You call YWHW a Germanic-English word God, which comes from Godan, Yod, God of the Gothic Bible and the first Western European bible.
Colton Ross
Wod
Isaiah Wright
But their not dead, that is the whole point of the matthew 22:31-32 quote, to say again differently luke 10:38 Also see john 8:56-58 Jesus is not dead, He is revelation 1:18
Connor Sullivan
So basically your problems is that people don't use the proper terms, of words to identify with god? What are you some gnostic? Sounds Pharisaic, and legalistic as hell like roman Catholics.
Nathaniel Cooper
Nature > Name. The ancient pagan gods had Greek and Roman names, but they were the same gods as they had the same nature. Jupiter and Zeus are not different gods because they have different names. The supreme trinitarian being worshipped by Christians is known as God in English and Germanic languages, Allah in Arabic, Deus in Latin, Tianzhu in China. Name doesn’t matter, nature does.
Colton Sanders
But they are dead. You're just using dead in a different way that defeats the purpose of the word.
What? God is a pagan deity the Allfather of Germanic/Nordic Europeans. Why do you keep calling YHWH Jesus' father after a pagan belief?
What are you some kind of gnostic?
No they assumed this. Zeus never had a planet.
So you're saying then that Odin the Father of Jesus and it's OK to called his father not only Allah but Brahman?
This is why you shouldn't speak the language of the Eternal Anglo.
Adam Mitchell
While the Roman Gods were heavily influenced by/modeled on the Greek mythology they're quite different in nature. While sometimes seen as equivalent, they're not the same being by a different name. Allah was one of 360 gods in the Kaaba who had 3 goddess daughters. Just because Mohammed grafted some stories he heard about Abraham and Christianity onto him doesn't make him the same being by a different name (not to mention the nature is completely different)
Jaxon Sullivan
Do you speak Aramaic like Jesus?
Matthew Clark
EXACTLY!
And this is why God shouldn't be used for the Bible Father of Jesus. It's not the same being by a different name, not to meantion the nature is completely different. You've proven it.
No he is not, there is a record testing to see which was true, some pagan so called god or the living God in 1 kings 18:19-39
James James
In biblical times they didn't speak (((aramiac/babylonian/modern hebrew))) they spoke ancient hebrew which has a differen ordering of the alphabet but is rather similiar otherwise.
John Ortiz
I'm not saying the "real Creator" is God you moron. I'm saying God is a Germanic word for God. It's not in the Bible until the creation of the Gothic Bible made for people who worshiped Godan, Wod, God, Odin, Wotan.
It just so happens that the earlist bible that wasn't Latin or Greek was in a Germanic tribe living in Italy that worshipped Godan, the Allfather.
Your translations is an English translation = Anglo-Saxon = worshipers of Godan, God, Wod, Wodan, And the priests called the Godi.
Arab Christians call God Allah. Muslims do worship a different God. The simple point of my post is that the name of the supreme trinitarian deity is less important than its nature. The fact that same idol is named “God” doesn’t mean we can’t call the creator God. It would be like saying we can’t say the name of Jesus Christ because of the punk rocker Jesus Christ Allin
Landon King
And Satanists call YHWH "God". So what's your point? You're saying you can call Jesus' father YHWH or El any name you want that fits. So why not Zues?
Chase Wood
There a reason you are singling out one of the least accepted etymologies for the word?
Charles Flores
Yeah, it's weird that Christians call their Creator by a Germanic Viking pagan name when they hate Norse paganism so much. It's almost like they're not Christian but Satanists posing as Christianity to bring forth the Antichrist.
Matthew Nguyen
I think it's more likely you're gnawed by a demon who wants to spread in-fighting in the faith with scurrilous lies.
Cooper Lee
But you're praying to a pagan deity by calling out to God. You should be calling out to YHWH or El.
Connor Kelly
Must I point out to you that I do not believe your etymology is correct? It's not like the anglo-saxons spoke lombardic anyway. Also No, I don't think taking the name of the Lord in vain is a good idea. There's a reason early Christian writers did not disagree with Jews on replacing the tetragammaton with Lord. That you concede that it is acceptable to address the Lord under a name also applied to the pagan god of the Canaanites demolishes your argument.
Nathan Perez
Yeah because your belief doesn't change the etymology. You're praying to a pagan deity. Well the Lombardic was who the Gothic Bible was made for, genius. And the Gothic Bible was the Saxon standard and how they were introduced to YWHW Jesus' father. Lord Wellington? Is that taking it in vain. Lord of the Rings? Is that taking it in vain? Jesus yelled Eli Eli while dying the on the cross, "Lord lord! Why have you forsakin me?!". Jesus didn't speak English.
Why do you persist on calling Jesus's father after GODAN?
The Father, the Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit is not a pagan deity. But it's a different person. I share my name with over a thousand people, but I am not them. "God" is the name of a pagan deity? All that proves is that there are two things with the same name
Luis Russell
Eh, who cares. It's not like Odin isn't a dead god and has been for centuries anyways. We killed him, and the frankensteining reconstructionism of pagan "revival" will never bring him back, so what's the harm in stealing his name for the sake of evangelization? Hell, nobody even knew this was the case until you pointed it out. That's how dead and buried Odin worship really is; God can Jesus and Jesus can be God for centuries and not one german will bat an eye, not one ounce of glory will go to Odin, until anno domini 2018, on a burmese leatherworking piazza. You need to call him Gotan just to force the comparison. Really joggs the noggin tbh.
I wouldn't call the Father Baal because "Baal" is not the word for God in any language. If some new language was discovered, in which the word for "God" was "Baal," that would be the proper thing to call God in that language.
