Camouflage

Jaxson Lee
Jaxson Lee

What's your favorite camouflage pattern?

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Easton Carter
Easton Carter

Flecktarn, but I dont wear camo unless I'm innawoods, and neither should you. olive drab is also acceptable, but remember that the more prepared you look in an emergency, the more you stick out, camo or not. if you live less than 50 miles from a major city, know that you'll be the biggest target when the masses arrive.

Gavin Morris
Gavin Morris

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Nathan Parker
Nathan Parker

The classic.

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Noah Ramirez
Noah Ramirez

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my superior opinions.
Also a good choice.

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James Torres
James Torres

It's not cool, it's not sexy, it's not a meme. It just works for the areas it was designed to function in, most of the time

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Hudson Reed
Hudson Reed

Since you've already named the objectively best Camo, Alpenflage. I'll go with US M81 Woodland for nostalgia reasons and Finnish M05 for practical reasons.

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Jacob Perry
Jacob Perry

The Classic.

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Jason Cooper
Jason Cooper

Nice

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Parker Foster
Parker Foster

If it ain't broke don't fix it

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Dylan Thompson
Dylan Thompson

For effectiveness, flecktarn and strichtarn, if you want something universal or don't know what to get acquire these. In the desert chocolate chip is just as good. For aesthetics, these, erbsenmuster is intimidating like it's a poisonous animal you shouldn't mess with, M81 is the classic, and I have a fondness for the blue camo the Russian national guard wears.

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Carter Reed
Carter Reed

CP is in a class by itself.

Mr Crye (a fine arts grad of all things IIRC) invented a pattern that supposely works less on 'look alike' but more on fooling eyes into "filling in". Similar to how an IMPRESSIONIST painted, when viewed from correct distance, will look more "real" than a photograph.

All other camo is basically fashion, not science.

Everyone and their uncle is going to some CP type camo, from UK to Russia.

No one has been able to beat CP when actually evaluated.

Jack Hughes
Jack Hughes

Implying CP is better than russian partizan

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Michael Smith
Michael Smith

Ah, knock off SS camo.

Robert Edwards
Robert Edwards

if it works it works

Alexander Morgan
Alexander Morgan

ATACS and its variations are very effective, especially at range, in my admittedly limited experience. It also has a very broad range of environments it could be used in. Doesn't look very cool though, just kind a muddy mess, which is the point I suppose. A sweeping color palette and relatively subtle patterning give it a bit of an edge.
German oak leaf (and by extension its Russian derivatives) are also very functional, and look pretty good.
I also really like tigerstripe patterns, KLMK, alpenflage, and the Czech and DDR rain patterns. I've actually received a fair number of compliments on the alpenflage and strichtarn.

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Wyatt Ward
Wyatt Ward

Reminder that it's literally called "SchutzStaffel-Leto"

Samuel Rivera
Samuel Rivera

Flecktarn for spring/summer, Alpenflage for autumn/winter. If it worked in my locale Rhodie brushstroke would be my favorite.

Jack Perez
Jack Perez

second pic reminds me to ask. What camo did the Australians in Vietnam wear?
belgian jigsaw
I love how goofy it is but I understand their ground is interesting colors.

Joseph Davis
Joseph Davis

I always liked old school tiger stripe. But I live in a 4-season place, so winter camo like in OP also has its place.

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Tyler Davis
Tyler Davis

baste halfchan

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Jack Howard
Jack Howard

Damn my nigga that's hella epic.

Samuel Jackson
Samuel Jackson

Imagine fighting someone that looks like they're wearing the eternally screaming faces of a dozen anime girls.

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Ian Hall
Ian Hall

Nigger that is scary.

Dominic Williams
Dominic Williams

screaming
a-user i…

Joseph White
Joseph White

I know what it's supposed to be, but what it actually looks like is another matter.

Eli Reed
Eli Reed

Not just using solid colors
fucking homos.

Camden Anderson
Camden Anderson

I'd like to buy ten yards, please and thank you.

Adrian Johnson
Adrian Johnson

Am I the only one who sees ninjas doing spin kicks and backflips?

Asher Allen
Asher Allen

So, here's an interesting question I have. Why are nearly all camouflage patterns horizontally oriented and not vertically oriented? Wouldn't tiger stripe be more effective if the stripes were vertically oriented?

Alexander Russell
Alexander Russell

A vertical tiger stripe would look bad and stick out like a sore thumb. Camo patterns are supposed to imitate nature, not look like an art students attempt in cashing in on the Pollack look.
I prefer the real deal without the repeats.

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Nathaniel Lee
Nathaniel Lee

You use solid colors under, user.

Brody Edwards
Brody Edwards

What's the best way to make and print your own custom camouflage?
I've got a photoshop of swedish m90 pattern with different colors better suited for my environment.
its basically just M90 pattern with FGN colors

Jayden Moore
Jayden Moore

What kind of fucked up place do you live in if plants are growing mostly horizontally instead vertically?

Logan Perry
Logan Perry

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For a one off you could use watered down acrylic paint and paint it by hand. I've done t-shirts like that and it stays flexible and holds up for years of washing. If you want to do a lot of fabric screen printing is probably your best bet.

Sebastian King
Sebastian King

Post pic

Isaac Bailey
Isaac Bailey

I cast my vote for Guro-flage, where instead of Ahegao meme-fetish, we get the only true Zig Forums fetish.

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Connor Murphy
Connor Murphy

Most of the camo patterns in animal kingdom look nothing like what militaries are using.
And some animals who ought to know better even look like they just don't bother.

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Luke Diaz
Luke Diaz

And all those animals are easy to spot and so get hunted all the time, many animals hunted to extinction. Their camo is meant for their natural predators, not for humans.
Humans have peak-camouflage capabilities, surpassing all mammals and reptiles.

Parker Thomas
Parker Thomas

best

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Oliver Green
Oliver Green

i might do the one off cause I'd like to do several different camos, does any cotton white-tee work?

Charles Barnes
Charles Barnes

Leopards and lizards seem to know how to wear a deceiving pattern. As there are camo patterns based off and named after them. I also tend to like choco-chip pattern for some reason.

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Luke Perry
Luke Perry

Am I the only one who sees ninjas doing spin kicks and backflips?
Now I can't unsee it. Cheers m8.

Lucas Scott
Lucas Scott

flecktarn and camo c1 french army

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Connor Nguyen
Connor Nguyen

izlom is best camouflage, you guys are just being retards

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Bentley Brooks
Bentley Brooks

This man is right, flecktarn pattern with DPM colours. It's best of both worlds.

Nicholas Cook
Nicholas Cook

M81 Woodland and Chocolate Chip are aesthetically perfect but are mediocre at being camouflage.

Angel Diaz
Angel Diaz

M81 is great at camo, Choco Chip is situational to mountainous desert. However I am more partial to tropentarn for my desert needs.

Tyler Collins
Tyler Collins

Fuck it, i'm about to go Auscam mode.

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Caleb Richardson
Caleb Richardson

Kamarian/Musorian enemy cams were great. I wish I kept my set.

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Julian Roberts
Julian Roberts

Flecktarn is pretty cool
Also this

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Grayson Stewart
Grayson Stewart

SS-Leto all day. Works better than flectarn in the great lakes area

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Jacob Perry
Jacob Perry

CY+4
not wearing full ballistic armor and wielding a claymore while screaming 'AVE MARIA!!'

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Brandon Foster
Brandon Foster

Better pic, I unironicly want a jumpsuit made of it.

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Levi Hall
Levi Hall

these 3.
If i end up printing them, I would touch them up a bit more, get rid of the pixelation and clean the lines.
I've loved camo3 ever since I made it in RSV2 long ago.

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Joshua Nguyen
Joshua Nguyen

What's the best camo for the PNW?

Noah Thomas
Noah Thomas

SS pattern stuff, fleck isnt too bad nor is standard old woodland and duck hunter if you can find it.

Cameron Flores
Cameron Flores

so I'm not all into facepaint, never liked the feeling of paint on my face.
would a balaclava like this be a bad idea if it's hot out? I would think covering your face in paint might actually make you overheat more than thin fabric on the skin

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Christian Barnes
Christian Barnes

Balaclavas are indeed superior to face paint. Either get one in olive color or go for the cheap and aesthetic black colored one. Avoid retarded camo patterns on it, especially shitty digital. If you have extra money get one that is fire-resistant.

Eli Hill
Eli Hill

Classic indeed but if my life depended on it I'd go with A-TACS FG

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Ryan Nelson
Ryan Nelson

spruced it up. any changes you guys think I should do to it?

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Jonathan Jenkins
Jonathan Jenkins

Dyed UCP gives a similar impression tbh

Justin James
Justin James

This is no laughing matter.

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Lucas Hughes
Lucas Hughes

How inaccurate is this map.

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Noah Brooks
Noah Brooks

Entirely anecdotal, but from the only two places I know. Central/South Oklahoma should be multicam pretty much year round. Western Montana/Idaho should probably be Flecktarn for the summer and Flecktarn Winter or just white for the winter.

Jose Hughes
Jose Hughes

Rhodie Brushstroke for the classic and effective aesthetics.
I'm liking Varan quite a bit lately to.

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Xavier Bennett
Xavier Bennett

Many prey animals can't differentiate orange from green very well and mammals (as far as I know) lack green pigments. So they have to settle for yellows and oranges. If they could be green they would be.

Though imagining a green tiger or fox is very strange.

Charles Lopez
Charles Lopez

ATACS FG
in winter
when everything is brown

why?

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Grayson Morris
Grayson Morris

I have a soft spot for Kamyyshovyy Risunok, but newer Russian stuff is pretty aesthetic too. SLOCAM is a nice variation on the endless multicam shittery.
Pencott also gets me hard. Latvian NBS2006 is also breddy gud.

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Zachary Bennett
Zachary Bennett

<Matte black
<No heraldry
<Any fucking year
It's like you don't even want your enemy to know who's coming for them or how fucked they are.

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Jaxson Flores
Jaxson Flores

the angle he painted the cross is angering me something fierce

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Lincoln Bailey
Lincoln Bailey

Remember that for the 'medieval' era pretty much all of the thousand years or so that it lasted a shield was a one use piece of kit, unless it was some hyper expensive bit of bespoke kit that a high-blood nobleman would sperg out about, or you hadn't actually used it. If you were a medieval minimum wager building and painting a few thousand shields for every engagement would you really get that worried about a few 'misprints' in every batch? Do you really think the average levy'd freeman is going to get upset about a slight irregularity in something that only matters to his lords ego?

Brandon Sanchez
Brandon Sanchez

ATACS-FG or Russian SURPAT is probably the best "all around".

Hudson Parker
Hudson Parker

And for specialized French Snow camo and either US AOR or Russian vertical KSOR for desert.

Jaxson Morgan
Jaxson Morgan

Any opinions on asat pattern?

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Isaiah Brooks
Isaiah Brooks

What do you think of this?

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Jaxon Evans
Jaxon Evans

The cake looked mediocre anyway.
tism bait
That's OCD not autism.

Samuel Torres
Samuel Torres

All season all terrain (ASAT) camo, look it up its the best. Problem is a good set with all the trimmings costs $1470 and the richest military cant afford a $750 rifle let alone a fucking uniform.

Did you know Canada and UK spends more for dress uniforms than for camo? I saw it with my own eyes.

Wyatt Ramirez
Wyatt Ramirez

It's missing another "s" and an "h" in the name

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Carter Moore
Carter Moore

that bright tan should either by whiter for snow or darker for everything else.

Isaiah Peterson
Isaiah Peterson

too much black

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Jordan Lewis
Jordan Lewis

US4CES is the shit

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Anthony Morgan
Anthony Morgan

Some animals camouflage themselves as predator animals.

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Dylan Peterson
Dylan Peterson

I hate they way these promotional camo shots have everything so damn pristine and clean. Show me what it looks like used.

Grayson Cruz
Grayson Cruz

beer bottles used to be transparent so you could see the quality of beer just by looking at it. producers started shipping in brown bottles so they could water the beer down and add alcohol to make cheaper beer when hops and barley prices rose in wwii.

Ethan Jackson
Ethan Jackson

here's another one then, though it's not really dusty here either

We need a camo made of dindu refugees

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Henry Moore
Henry Moore

UV light fucks beer. Thus beer bottles are tinted like sunglasses.
t.brewer

Colton Reed
Colton Reed

my (((boss))) told me light kills booze
even though no other drinks are affected by this and alcohol is entirely dependent on fermentation from being heated in a shut container

Are you stupid? The answer might surprise you!

Camden Brooks
Camden Brooks

How could tell the quality of beer? I never liked beer, all of the Anheuser-Busch beers has some sort of aftertaste to it, and corona taste like ass. Guess I'll drink cheap red wine instead.

Andrew Myers
Andrew Myers

Whiskey is the most based of spirits. None of that un-aged Jack Daniels or Jim Beam bullshit, either.

Joseph Gonzalez
Joseph Gonzalez

drinking piss beer
No wonder you don't like it. Go for a stout, märzen, or dark lager instead. A bourbon-barrel aged stout like Dragon's Milk or Event Horizon is top tier.
This too. Nothing like a good southern bourbon.

Xavier Ward
Xavier Ward

beer
made and flavored with a bunch of stuff
hard liquor
grain of some sort
Its the hop content in beer when exposed to UV that causes said beer to skunk out. You can go be a retard somewhere else.

Nathaniel Cox
Nathaniel Cox

Yes because all of those open air warehouses where beer is stored in transparent containers in the sun. You're a fucking retard.
Beer goes from bottling factory to a box, box goes into truck, truck goes to bar, box goes in bar, box is opened inside the bar where there's no fucking UV light, and it's stored in the cool room where there's no fucking UV light. Until its about to be drunk, when its poured into a transparent glass, which has no effect because it isn't outside. At no point in its life cycle does a beer bottle get exposed to UV rays.
Your boss lied to you and his shit excuse for lying to people doesn't even fit reality.

William Howard
William Howard

not home-brewed moonshine

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Nathan Murphy
Nathan Murphy

The best moonshine comes from blackberries.
Not that guy but I asked the science fellows I do work for from time to time. Turns out both the sun and standard florescent lights i.e. sources of UV light cause the alpha acids from the hops to convert over to 3-Methyl-2-butene-1-thiol which is the nasty flavor of beer gone bad. Corona is particularly bad due to the water they use has trace amounts of sulfur in it.

Maybe you're the sort who enjoys throwing citrus fruit into their liquor. Who knows.

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Jeremiah Reyes
Jeremiah Reyes

oh wait you proved my sun fallacy wrong!
whatabout beer in offices under fluorescent lights which are 1000x weaker than suns rays!!!!
gotcha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I'm sorry but that's completely fictional bullshit. UV rays break down practically everything, they're high power radiation, that cannot possibly be a reason for brown bottles. Beer isn't exposed to any amount of UV at any point in its production or life cycle, you're

Eli Kelly
Eli Kelly

I'm the fucking owner nor do you have a clue on the logistics of liquor. At one point I did use clear until people bitched about skunked beer, that ended with a switch to amber bottles.

Anthony Cruz
Anthony Cruz

I did use clear

Yeah, really? What brand, faggot? Nobody sells beer in clear containers in the US that I've ever seen, and I'm pretty sure it's not even legal. They have to be green or brown. How about you prove your claims instead of boasting unfalsifiable credentials on an anonymous Vaegir arrow fletching story circle?

Jaxon Foster
Jaxon Foster

I don't export to America due to local demand and me knowing the fact nobody is going to pay 25USD for a six pack. In potland Sleemans sells their stuff in clear bottles and two cases never taste the same, their canned stuff is consistent. Also I highly doubt you've never seen a filthy Corona or Modello considering 7-11 sells em, they're in clear bottles last I checked as with Miller branded stuff, mind you Miller uses a hop extract in their brew than the hops themselves leading to an odd flavor.
Budweiser and company use rice which leads to that aftertaste.

Noah Lopez
Noah Lopez

Tigerstripe.

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Joshua Ross
Joshua Ross

have any military's ever done eye training to differentiate camouflage at a distance?

Angel Parker
Angel Parker

How did you start out brewing/any worthwhile books on the topic/how did you get distributors and stores to start carrying your product?

t. potentially interested in brewing

Xavier Gomez
Xavier Gomez

No beer is put in brown or green bottles because UV light breaks down chemicals in the hops in the beer, causing the beer to tastes like a skunks ass. That's why Corona tastes like shit and why if you leave a beer in the sun it tastes like shit too.
You are literally retarded. Leaffags shit up the board.

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Chase Ortiz
Chase Ortiz

Yes because all of those open air warehouses where beer is stored in transparent containers in the sun. You're a fucking retard.
And milk is mixed with water to get down to 1% fat because of safety not because they can sell 5-10 times more product for a similar price per bottle. Also livestock isnt slaughtered by cutting and letting them bleed all the fluids out to increase the fluid volume and bulk up sales meat, its done because electroshocking, freezing and then cutting them into 90% water chunks is more humane.

Asher Perry
Asher Perry

Oh, is that why all German has forever and always been filled into brown bottles?
Because of ww2 and because you could water it down?
Was it DA JOOOOOOZ?
Calm your anus, you fagleaf, or you'll get raked.

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Kevin Wright
Kevin Wright

Rake yourself

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Noah Cook
Noah Cook

Originally I was a moonshiner and bootlegger way back in the day, my dayjob at the time was working in a brewery for 4.50/hr which kept the taxman off my ass for the time. Honestly I'd say to go find a brewery to work at and see if you can handle it. I had a lot of hit and miss when I started due to doing things by memory.
distributors
At the tine the government held a monopoly on alcohol so basically it was a matter of getting the sole authorised dick to buy my stuff.
Don't think so.

Noah Rivera
Noah Rivera

is there any advantage of putting camo on your gun or other equipment?

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Camden Barnes
Camden Barnes

Yes, especially in snowy environments. It pisses me off whenever I see troops in full winter camo, and yet their guns, belts and pouches are all either black or some other color and not white. Like 30% - 40% of your body is covered in gear, if you don't paint that gear properly then you're only 60% camouflaged.

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Jose Nelson
Jose Nelson

Camo not really, however non black furniture should be fucking mandatory, like non-black boots.
Camouflage is all about breaking up silhouettes. A gun, a long black stick, is pretty recognizable from afar… even more on a guy wearing a good camo.

Ryder Campbell
Ryder Campbell

also I just realized their squad leader is a fucking woman. God damn it, Finlandia. What a shame.

Nolan Brooks
Nolan Brooks

Well what were you expecting from a land of spineless cowards?

Xavier Walker
Xavier Walker

Youtube E-gunner NutnFancy says spray painting everything FDE keeps guns from getting untouchably hot in sun, in addition to camo.

Carson Bell
Carson Bell

Stuff more like this

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Thomas Diaz
Thomas Diaz

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Jose Jenkins
Jose Jenkins

How do you know that's not a stock photo

Leo Wright
Leo Wright

I'm not sure I can wear anything else here except Auscam or Auscam 2: Multicam Edition.
There really isn't any other camo that lets me blend in properly with the gum trees and wallaby grass

Cooper Wright
Cooper Wright

this is why canada, instead of issuing different CADPAT in an arctic color mix and painting tanks white and such, literally just issues bedsheets and smocks and calls it a day

instead of needing separate white pouches/carriers/etc. or risking damaging them prematurely (and voiding MANY a service contract!!) by painting them repeatedly, you just keep your white poncho over all your shit and open the poncho to get at your stuff

im only partially joking about this. the arctic camo cover is just a white poncho kinda thing, and instead of repainting vehicles they actually do just have covers. the covers are more or less fitted to the vehicle and sewn up to fit properly but it's basically just white linens that go over your green stuff

i tried to look up pics to confirm and couldnt find any, but it seems that the US does something similar since theres tons of results for surplus US army/muhreen snow covers

humans are taller than they are wide so vertical stripes accentuate the silhouette
it's why pinstripe suits come in vertical stripes, it makes the eye follow your form better and makes you look gud and makes you stand out
horizontal stripes just become a mess

Colton Scott
Colton Scott

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Easton Cruz
Easton Cruz

Indeed, the combat vests (and other equipment where applicable) would be painted/taped white. That just is not viable during peacetime training, when the same equipment is used year in and year out, conscript after conscript, and, God forbid, used in pictures like those. Of course, there could be two sets of the equipment with different color schemes, but that would just be unnecessarily expensive.

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Caleb Long
Caleb Long

Why is raindrop pattern so good? I like it, but I don't get it.

Logan Anderson
Logan Anderson

Here's a couple of video's that test it.
youtube.com/watch?v=-9OGWG1WW1U&t=
youtube.com/watch?v=lIowgTP-sxs
And here's plain brown to show what it would be without the little stripes to break up the outline
youtube.com/watch?v=Nib64bGEAGw&t=

Jackson Thomas
Jackson Thomas

It's not Akari
Missed meme potential.

Chase James
Chase James

Could you even come up with a consistent training program for that?
That seems like something that would vary widely based on the individual soldier's level of perception and/or how good their eyesight is.

Alexander Evans
Alexander Evans

what happened

Austin Howard
Austin Howard

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