No Porn, no girlfriend/wife, not too often. I’m thinking it’s bad because I should be using this sexual energy to find a wife.
Is masturbation always a sin?
Yes
Asides "semen is wasted and its unnatural" part, I'm pretty sure it degrades your sexual life, so you'll have problems in marital life due to it.
also, there's already a nofap thread
Be prepared to be told to "winnie the pooh off" a lot. No woman in the world wants to be the object of your lust.
What is Winnie the Pooh off
1 Corinthians 7:2
“Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.”
The "F" word filters to "Winnie the Pooh"
Wherever there occurs a special kind of deformity whereby the venereal act is rendered unbecoming, there is a determinate species of lust. This may occur in two ways: First, through being contrary to right reason, and this is common to all lustful vices; secondly, because, in addition, it is contrary to the natural order of the venereal act as becoming to the human race: and this is called "the unnatural vice." This may happen in several ways. First, by procuring pollution, without any copulation, for the sake of venereal pleasure: this pertains to the sin of "uncleanness" which some call "effeminacy."
In every genus, worst of all is the corruption of the principle on which the rest depend. Now the principles of reason are those things that are according to nature, because reason presupposes things as determined by nature, before disposing of other things according as it is fitting. This may be observed both in speculative and in practical matters. Wherefore just as in speculative matters the most grievous and shameful error is that which is about things the knowledge of which is naturally bestowed on man, so in matters of action it is most grave and shameful to act against things as determined by nature. Therefore, since by the unnatural vices man transgresses that which has been determined by nature with regard to the use of venereal actions, it follows that in this matter this sin is gravest of all.
why cant latins speak in simple and coherent manners, instead of this Talmudic tone? Its as if I was reading mishnah.
It's Summa, the driest and most coherent theological manual outhere.
If anything it's read like physics textbook.
But since education is dead in 90% of places then let me rephrase it.
cause it’s all fan fic. the summa quotes pagan philosophers much more than church Fathers. this is your brain on scholasticism
Yes. So next time, try to actually write something yourself in COHERENT MANNER FOR EVERYONE INSTEAD OF COPY-PASTING.
I can read summa (and consider Aquinas a sadist), but the rest CAN'T.
I think that verse could be interpreted to mean "if two people like each other, then marry them instead of having them fornicate" not "give every man his dream gf so he doesn't tug on his weenie"
If anything Summa is more coherent than what I wrote. "You are just copy-paste, make your own argument" is such idiotic statement that I tempted to say that only complete morons make them.
The only difficulty here was to know that "venereal act"="sexual act"
It could. Woldn't make this interpretation true but it could.
Thou shalt not bear false witness. Augustine alone is quoted one thousand times more than Aristotle, not to mention all other Church fathers.
You lie, again.
it is not
It isn't, you Talmudist, SPEAK IN COHERENT LANGUAGE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS
It is always a sin but not always a sin caused by the same reason.
If you fap with porn you develop and habit of lust and perversity that feeds itself.
If you fap without porn it's still a sin and lustful but it is possibly more out of loneliness.
In the first case you develop a pervert mind that keep wanting more, in the second case it is often a result of our natural libido of young men finding a release. It can still develop perversion through imagination though.
Most of us are not made to be celibate or monks, in a traditional society at 20 we're supposed to have a wife, make love a lot and have kids. The sexual drive is not wrong, the way it is excerised is.
I am pretty sure people wed around 15~20 and there were more great-grandparents then than now. Also we considered 15 to be of age and an able-bodied adult already.
Yes, it was that sweet. Two people in their youth, in-love, getting married and can "fool around" as much as they want at the height of their "urges", starting their own life, learning it as it goes with their large, warm, healthy family as one; instead of stuck in an academic rat-race, cannot married because of shitty society structure so they fornicate and there are are lots of murdered children and contraceptive and children in the orphanages after that.
Dude, I understand Summa more than what I wrote.
Only if you ignore the context of the rest of the chapter
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I'm twenty and just started dating the love of my life. She's a few years younger and a qt 3.14 virgin. Gonna propose when the time is right.
It's not impossible lads.
Married user here, got mine later in life. Still very pleased with the decision to marry. It definitely happens, fellows.
Glad to hear. The love between a man and a woman, especially when young, is really a beautiful thing.
you poor sweet summer child j/k
I hope and pray everything goes well fam