US Navy Rams Evil Canadian Vessel

Henry Evans
Henry Evans

US Combat Ship Collides With Canadian Freighter In Montreal
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Wed 6/26 0817
An advanced U.S. Navy combat ship that is slated to be commissioned as the U.S.S. Billings collided with a berthed freighter in Montreal on Monday, FreightWaves reported. Both ships were damaged as a result, but their crews were safe. The U.S. Freedom-class littoral combat ship hit the M/V Rosaire A. Desgagnes at about 2PM on Monday, according to Lt. Cmdr. Courtney Hillson, a Navy spokesperson. 
The Billings is 378 feet long and sustained damage below the waterline as a result. The damage to the 452 foot dry bulk vessel it collided with has not been fully assessed yet. The bulk vessel is owned by Quebec-based Transport Desgagnés.
The U.S. Navy is reportedly still investigating the incident and despite the fact that the Billings was "capable" of making it to its Florida homebase, it is being kept in Montreal for additional damage assessments. 
Hillson said: “The Navy is conducting an investigation to understand what happened and why. We will incorporate lessons learned to ensure we conduct safe and effective operations.”
The Billings launched in 2017 and is one of the newest ships in the Navy's fleet. It cost $362 million and is billed as a "high-tech, cost-effective surface warfare vessel suited for modern defense needs". Freedom class combat boats like the Billings have "been plagued by a host of issues, which have kept them from going operational."
The Rosarie was delivered in 2007 and built by Volharding Shipyards in the Netherlands, in collaboration with Jiangzhou Shipyard in China. It has a capacity of about 16,000 cubic meters. 

So what is it Zig Forums, is it a Chino-Canadian conspiracy or another case American diversity hire incompetence?

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Jeremiah Butler
Jeremiah Butler

Sorry, double posted like a nigger; in apology, have this. It's the caption for picrel from the Billings gazette.
USS Billings crew members tour the area and meet with commissioning committee members in 2018. From right, Commander Michael Johnson, Executive Officer Aaron Helgerson, Command Master Chief Dennisha McElveen, ship sponsor Sharla Tester, chairman of the commissioning committee Ron Spence and director of Navy ships commissionings Dave Anderson.
Command Master Chief Dennisha McElveen
:^)
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Brayden Rodriguez
Brayden Rodriguez

SHEEEEEEEEEEEIT dat mothafucka shoulda moved his bitch-ass boat befo I could crash into that hoe
dem canadian mothafuckas always be keepin us black wimminz down
What a surprise.

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Samuel Collins
Samuel Collins

Freedom class combat boats like the Billings have "been plagued by a host of issues, which have kept them from going operational."
New speak to say that the USN hasn't capable of fielding a half decent glorified corvette in a fucking decade.
When Russia has better ships than you, you should be long past the point of worrying.

Did you know the next one on the line LCS-17 is finally fitted for a radar!
And it's a 360° AESA too, a first in the USN (you know the tech the nips have on their ships since 1990)…
Well the USN still had to buy it to Germany but for them it's still an achievement.

Yes, I'm so fucking salty Trump didn't attack Iran.

Jackson Richardson
Jackson Richardson

I can't wait for a showdown between the United States Navy and the Royal Caribbean International to see which one has the better Freedom-class.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom-class_littoral_combat_ship
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom-class_cruise_ship

Gavin Robinson
Gavin Robinson

Reminder that sea collisions are never an accident unless the weather is absolutely horrible, and by horrible I mean 10 beaufort minimum. Small vessels - (anything in the military smaller than an aircraft carrier) are maneuverable and impossible to collide with another ship unless they do it intentionally.
It is even more ridiculous when the navy somehow collides with merchant vessels - fuckhuge 300+ meter long slow ships.

Jason Cooper
Jason Cooper

Hits parked ship
The US navy sucks big time

Eli Taylor
Eli Taylor

Yes, I'm so fucking salty Trump didn't attack Iran.
I can't decide if that's him straying from his usual nature as Zion Don, or acting in accordance with it. Israel would love the US to go to war with Iran, but since it would be a shitfest for the US it would be bad for Israel if they did.

Adam Garcia
Adam Garcia

I think most of the time it's military arrogance, they think they have right of way over cilivian ships because military and they collide with other nations military ships by playing chicken.
If fighter pilots did this and risked only their life and a $100m plane they would be grounded the same day yet captains constantly risk hundreds of lives and billions of dollars and nothing comes of it.

Isaiah Smith
Isaiah Smith

Practically every collision ends up with the captain and/or their officers being court-martialled

Juan Adams
Juan Adams

My point is a near miss gets a pilot grounded, I'm yet to hear of a captain loosing his ship for being a fuckhead but not actually hitting something.

Oliver Wilson
Oliver Wilson

>Freedom class combat boats like the Billings have "been plagued by a host of issues, which have kept them from going operational."
New speak to say that the USN hasn't capable of fielding a half decent glorified corvette in a fucking decade
jej
Did you know the next one on the line LCS-17 is finally fitted for a radar!
And it's a 360° AESA too, a first in the USN (you know the tech the nips have on their ships since 1990)
It might also of interest that Japan had the first AESA on the Mitsubishi F-2 in 1995, before the yanks could put it in the F-22
Well the USN still had to buy it to Germany but for them it's still an achievement
It's a sad state of affairs when the "greatest Navy in the world" has to rely on naval well maybe not entirely technology coming from a country that builds leaning ships that are too fat to be upgraded.

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Leo Butler
Leo Butler

Aviation is more visible. You have ATC watching everything as sharply as they can specifically to avoid collisions, and moreover because collisions in the air are so much more dangerous (how many of these freighters have sunk? Airborne collisions are 99.9% fatal), near-misses are much more likely to get attention.
Besides, nobody cares about boats. Planes are more interesting. And cargo planes are basically indistinguishable from passenger ones, while ugly rusty cargo ships are very different from pretty cruise liners, so nearly hitting a cargo ship doesn't matter, while nearly hitting any kind of plane is a big deal.

I'd also imagine there are more captains willing to risk it than pilots, too, so the few pilots who actually do pull stunts like that get no sympathy from anyone over their suicidal retardation. Again, a ship collision is quite safe (for the bridge, at least) while a plane collision will almost certainly kill the pilot. Additionally, there are more people involved in the decision to turn a ship. A pilot makes the decision and implements it on his own, or some ATC notices and would never hesitate to issue directions the pilot has no reason not to follow. In a ship the captain makes a decision, and numerous people are involved in implementing it, and he has a crew of hundreds he has to "save face" in front of by not being too acquiescent. It's also a faster, snappier decision to turn a plane than a ship, with no times for games once you realize you're on a collision course.

Carter Williams
Carter Williams

Nipbro, please rebuild the Yamato and trash the entire US Navy with it.

James Taylor
James Taylor

They've gone so desperate from knowing that carriers are outdated that they're trying to test ramming as the next big thing in naval combat since it seems to work for Chinese freighters.

Easton Moore
Easton Moore

It's not that, the other ship was anchored in port and not moving at all. The Navy ship basically did the equivalent of smashing their vehicle into a building.

Charles Turner
Charles Turner

362 million Ameripesos for a legalized contractor scam calling itself a warship
while a single F-35 costs 110 million Burgersestertii
We live in a society.

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Connor Martinez
Connor Martinez

I know, the nip basically invented AESA (at least had the tech mass producible first) that but even the germans refitted their Bremen-class with some in the mid 90's. Even us had PESA radars (on export ships, no money) at that time and god knows our naval tradition is almost on par with Russia.

Angel Powell
Angel Powell

Another day
Another USN ship hits a commercial ship.

Is it bad this is just a normal occurance these days?

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Joshua Torres
Joshua Torres

If the captain of a Freedom-class passenger liner were to deliberately plot a collision course with a Freedom-class LCS would anyone notice?
Especially if the captain of the liner is black woman.
Yamato
Why not build another Ryuujou or Shin'yo for extra points in anti-semitism class CVE with a full complement of Type 95s and D3As?
The sight of a squadron of 1930s propeller planes approaching on a bombing run from the blind spot of the LCS' barely functioning/manned AESA radar is sure to strike terror in at least 56% of its crew.

Thomas Morales
Thomas Morales

Yeah, it's pretty hard to evade another ship when you can see around for many kilometres and it would take dozens of minutes until you actually hit the other ship. No American can expect to have such fast reaction times to evade something you're driving towards for half an hour.

Jacob Anderson
Jacob Anderson

Didn't the amerifats start claiming that the chinks/russians were 'hacking' their ships to crash into stuff before?

Daniel Fisher
Daniel Fisher

I think you failed to understand what I wrote.
The fact that you have longer to react to a collision course in a ship is exactly one of the reasons I gave for why they happen.

Xavier Morris
Xavier Morris

The sight of a squadron of 1930s propeller planes approaching on a bombing run from the blind spot of the LCS' barely functioning/manned AESA radar is sure to strike terror in at least 56% of its crew.
You're assuming the LCS "main gun" works… the German radar probably does, even if it runs on liquid gold or something unnecessarily complicated (but then at half a billion the corvette I hope they gouged the fucking burgers).
Especially if the captain of the liner is black woman.
Private companies have standards, pic related is the first related when looking up the Freedom-class MS Freedom of Seas Captain of Royal Caribbean International.

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Lucas Murphy
Lucas Murphy

Having a Shin'yo would be fun too, but I miss the days of huge cannons raining down heavy shells.
I wonder if it would be possible to make something like the type 3 shell except not shit. Setting bases on fire with cannons make me smile.

Samuel Baker
Samuel Baker

huge cannons raining down heavy shells
What's the biggest cannon one could reasonably fit on a monitor Zeppelin?

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Nathan Foster
Nathan Foster

I see USN decided to go back to its roots. To become an elite force by understanding what came before. Right now they're practicing ramming, like the ancient triremes.

Bentley Jackson
Bentley Jackson

so nearly hitting a cargo ship doesn't matter
nearly hitting a tanker worth literal billions, or an LPG/LNG ship worth even more, doesn't matter because dude it isn't pretty lmao

Eli Martin
Eli Martin

What's the biggest cannon one could reasonably fit on a monitor Zeppelin?
Do you mean fit on it as in 'that a zeppelin could technically carry'? Or as in 'that could be fired from a zeppelin without sending the airship spiraling all over the place'?

Let's start with an airship equivalent to the Hindenburg as our base vehicle (no thermite pain or anything like that this time though). That gives us around 10'000kg of payload to work with, which doesn't seem to give us much room for any of the 'superguns' I can find. Even the larger naval cannons would be too much if it has to carry ammunition and fuel, crew, etc. You might be able to fit an AS90/PzH 2000 equivalent with all the kit you'd need to fire it though.

If you went with an An-225 Mriya you'd have the weight to carry something more substantial, either a WWI tier big gun or a small battery of smaller pieces hooked up to the same trigger.

Tyler Brown
Tyler Brown

The point is that they look very different, so people perceive them as being different, whereas planes look the same, so people perceive them as being the same. Yes, there's a lot of money at stake, but how many people see the headline that a tanker got hit and have anything more than the mildest possible reaction? Nobody cares since it was just a cargo ship. But if a plane nearly gets hit, regardless of what it's carrying, people get worked up because it could just as easily have been a passenger jet. That difference of perception applies to the higher-ups too. Money isn't a big deal if you're not paying for it (or not directly paying), but if you get someone killed people start caring.

Josiah Kelly
Josiah Kelly

Obligatory.

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Kayden Rodriguez
Kayden Rodriguez

rollan

Parker Green
Parker Green

hit by a lighthouse
I can see it happening, we live in a clown world

Angel Morris
Angel Morris

Dice rollRolled 10, 7 = 17 (2d10)

I've always felt Zig Forums is a bit too slow for roulettes to be really effective. Dice are enabled, may as well use them.

Tyler Johnson
Tyler Johnson

I guess it's decided. Lighthouses of the world, beware.

Sebastian Collins
Sebastian Collins

US Navy Rams [insert here]
Russia and China shouldn't even bother researching new anti ship missiles or torpedoes. They should instead just pay (((politicians))) to push for more diversity in the Navy. The effect is going to be the same for a fraction of the cost.

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Joseph Miller
Joseph Miller

Dice rollRolled 8, 5 = 13 (2d10)

Rollin
Remember it's polite to sage your rolls so that the thread isn't constantly bumped.

Kayden Phillips
Kayden Phillips

Rollan.

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Lucas Moore
Lucas Moore

m8 when you're underway you only need to steer the wheel to turn the ship, you can even command the engine remotely ffs

Christopher Nelson
Christopher Nelson

I don't know a lot about Naval ships. I thought there was a separate helmsman who the commanding officer gave instructions to, not to mention things like navigators (especially in shallower waters where you need to worry about where it's safe to go). In any event it's not about the difficulty, it's about ordering the crew to be the ones to back down in a unilateral game of chicken.

Jonathan Murphy
Jonathan Murphy

Congratulations, you've just invented Comintern.

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Caleb Cooper
Caleb Cooper

Regarding cargo ships, the crew knows absolutely nothing of what happens on the bridge, where there's one officer and maybe one seaman and the captain whenever he feels like it. Ships today can be commanded by one person during navigation: there's an autopilot which keeps the ship on due course, and the ECDIS which keeps track of all objects around it and alerts the bridge crew when a collision course is detected. The commanding officer is a glorified office worker while at sea.

David Kelly
David Kelly

Dice rollRolled 2, 10 = 12 (2d10)

Christopher Sanchez
Christopher Sanchez

Gimme something juicy.

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Owen Walker
Owen Walker

Dice rollRolled 9, 4 = 13 (2d10)

Well let's see what the people of nigger in our glorious navy will do next

Christopher Moore
Christopher Moore

Dice rollRolled 9, 4 = 13 (2d10)

If only the USN was this incompetent in the last war would we have won without having to bomb Pearl Harbour.

Jack Johnson
Jack Johnson

rolling

Henry Green
Henry Green

Admit your ships/crew are useless and can't avoid a parked freighter
Say that the military's cyber security sucks and can be hacked at will by its enemies
Somehow blame the Leaf captain for having his freighter in the way of FREEDOM
Pretty obvious what is going to happen.

Isaiah Rivera
Isaiah Rivera

Dennisha McElveen
Eleven?

Liam Perry
Liam Perry

Rolling

Julian Hernandez
Julian Hernandez

LHD to lighthouse. Clownworld indeed.

Christian Walker
Christian Walker

kek

Evan Myers
Evan Myers

Dice rollRolled 1, 9 = 10 (2d10)

Come on, give me the Nimitz/rowboat combo.

Luis Nguyen
Luis Nguyen

DAY OF THE RAKE!

Nolan Robinson
Nolan Robinson

CANADUPS BTFO

Mason Sanders
Mason Sanders

What’s next? Is the Navy going to ran an aircraft carrier aground in a port?

Nathan Phillips
Nathan Phillips

why is this thread bumped to the front page
its from yesterday
Will the USN ever even come close to admitting that it's sheer incompetence what's crashing these ships? Or is there something more sinister at work?
Rollan

Jose Edwards
Jose Edwards

Is it humanly possible to ram a port or a lighthouse into a ship?

Christian Young
Christian Young

No, it's just incompetence.
What do you expect from diversity hires?

Owen Wright
Owen Wright

Human ingenuity knows no bounds Strelok..
Maybe the USN will put out an RFP for counter lighthouse and port ramming equipment.

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Cooper Flores
Cooper Flores

I got it. We stick a giant chainsaw on the bow of the ship. That way, you can ram and wreck stuff better, demoralize the enemy with your giant ship chainsaw, and look ridiculous cool at the same time.
Of course, you want the chainsaw to be effective. Therefore we need the teeth to be diamond-tipped for better cutting, and to use a proprietary energy source that i'll come up with later.
I'll take that paycheck now.

Adam Rogers
Adam Rogers

Rolling for nimitz and row boat.

Henry Peterson
Henry Peterson

This is the transcript of a radio conversation of a US naval ship with Canadian authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in October, 1995. Radio conversation released by the Chief of Naval Operations 10-10-95.

Americans: Please divert your course 15 degrees to the North to avoid a collision.
Canadians: Recommend you divert YOUR course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision.
Americans: This is the Captain of a US Navy ship. I say again, divert YOUR course.
Canadians: No. I say again, you divert YOUR course.
Americans: This is the aircraft carrier USS Lincoln, the second largest ship in the United States' Atlantic fleet. We are accompanied by three destroyers, three cruisers and numerous support vessels. I demand that YOU change your course 15 degrees north, that's one five degrees north, or countermeasures will be undertaken to ensure the safety of this ship.
Canadians: This is a lighthouse. Your call.

Camden Myers
Camden Myers

Memes aside, is the frequency of that happening anywhere near normal for international shipping?

Asher Martin
Asher Martin

Context behind that image?

Caleb Bell
Caleb Bell

Foto vom letztjährigen G7-Gipfel Im Style von KanColle

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Logan Mitchell
Logan Mitchell

Ships ramming into other ships
It happens, but it's rare as fuck unless everybody on the bridge is retarded, drunk, and asleep.
US navy ramming into other ships
Seems to be every other week these days.

Grayson Long
Grayson Long

Would cargo ships converted to suicide drones filled with explosives be the most effective anti-ship weapon against the Burger Empire Navy in CY+4?
Bonus if they're crewed and registered as mostly legit somewhere, have small spotter drone aircraft and a fast escape boat for the crew after they plot the ship's final course.
US SIGINT has gotten so embarassingly poor the suicide ship's crew could probably even fake disturbed radio calls from their remote command escape vehicle via encrypted tethering and still get away with it.

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Jeremiah Nguyen
Jeremiah Nguyen

the most effective anti-ship weapon
Israeli aircraft. They are literally immune to American defenses. They just attack their ships and the americans pretend nothing is happening, once everyone is dead the government hides all trace of the incident

Isaiah Martin
Isaiah Martin

Would cargo ships converted to suicide drones filled with explosives be the most effective anti-ship weapon against the Burger Empire Navy in CY+4?
Just fortify them enough so that ramming inflicts no damage to the cargo ship and then have a filipino tranny in a captain hat to deflect all blame.

Dominic Campbell
Dominic Campbell

Having the cargo ship hoist an Israeli flag might be a decent way to deter American crews from engaging hostilities but it'd also have a high chance of them actually trying to avoid the ship thus defeating its purpose.
But then how would you guarantee the destruction of the enemy vessel?

Elijah Stewart
Elijah Stewart

Just putting it out of commission would suffice. Just ram them again once the vessel leaves repairs.
By the third time it'll be outdated and need to be salvaged or turned into a museum

Austin Reed
Austin Reed

I swear I've read this story somewhere before, but where?

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Benjamin Howard
Benjamin Howard

I think about user posted a similar greentext story when USS John McCain crashed.

Jace Martinez
Jace Martinez

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Dylan Foster
Dylan Foster

Therefore we need the teeth to be diamond-tipped for better cutting
Not as expensive as you think. The oil and gas industry have been using synthetic diamonds in drill bits for years. Or, we could liberate some shithole in Africa and turn their blood diamonds into McFreedom Diamonds™. We just need to make sure we have enough troops to invade after most of them are court martialed for shooting children.

Nice try. That joke's been around since before Pearl Harbor.
snopes.com/fact-check/the-obstinate-lighthouse/

Justin Johnson
Justin Johnson

Who would win, Chad Spaniard or Cucked Burger?

Josiah Jenkins
Josiah Jenkins

Didnt they ram a russian ship too? Who the fuck is driving these boats, if you crash once per week youre losing 50 ships a year, and not even completely losing…. Having a damaged ship waiting in drydock for repair is 1000 times worse than having the ship sink completely. It takes up dock space while politicians argue whether or not to fund the repair, yet if it sank a brand new ship could be built in about the same time.

Nolan Lewis
Nolan Lewis

if you crash once per week youre losing 50 ships a year,
Is this how American global hegemony ends?

Blake Williams
Blake Williams

Lol trying to make excuses for not a single individual on the LCS seeing an anchored ship slowly get larger over the period of several hours. Or did they see it but think it was an rigid hull inflatable overexpanding?

Christopher Roberts
Christopher Roberts

Who the fuck is driving these boats?
Literal niggermutts.
It helps, but not yet. The US needs to do something incredibly, mindnumbingly stupid so that anyone except the most boomer of boomers can see what a sad joke this country has become.

Gavin Sullivan
Gavin Sullivan

I dont think the Imperial Navy has lost this many ships per year since WWII.

Andrew Robinson
Andrew Robinson

Didnt they ram a russian ship too?
Russian crew avoided them last minute.

Kevin Baker
Kevin Baker

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Benjamin Young
Benjamin Young

Another plus about cargo ships is that they're very hard to sink. Most tankers and LPG/LNG ships have double-hulls, whatever you hit them with will have to penetrate both in order to cause actual damage.

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Luke Reyes
Luke Reyes

Checked and since brought up when I play WoWarships can't help but think how fun would it be to be able to customize ships so that I could minmax a BB or CV into a dedicated rammer.

Henry Peterson
Henry Peterson

I don't see a problem

Xavier Gomez
Xavier Gomez

ywn narrowly avoid collision with an US aircraft carrier only to open up a full broadside of Iranian anti-ship missiles at <50m distance

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Hunter Brooks
Hunter Brooks

With this joke being around for as long as it has been, i wonder why nobody has done something really stupid.
Either some dedicated tard could build a floating pile of junk with the shape of a light house or one of the current nation being pissed at the Americans could name a small ship "lighthouse".
Of course, any of these two has to be sent in the way of every fucking bigger ship, and repeatedly at every possible occasion, until no big ship wants to go into that region to avoid being the butt of a joke.

Jaxon Lewis
Jaxon Lewis

It's already functionally over. Everyone else is just trying to slow roll it because parasitic Americans till have nuclear weapons and they still want to cash out their investments in America.

James Cox
James Cox

When America and the rest of the west goes full civil war and America and us are is Balkanized how would the control of the nukes be established? Would ICBM Silos become useless when control is lost or is there any way for new governments to manage to gain control of the nukes in their regions?

Logan White
Logan White

Hopefully they do the sane thing like South Africa and dismantle them before the niggers and spics get their subhuman hands on them.

Nathaniel Price
Nathaniel Price

Why not use a few of them for good measure.
Nuking places like Detroit would be useful.

Charles Rivera
Charles Rivera

In a sane world a few hundred would be launched at Israel. But if you're already throwing nukes around it's simply better to use chemical weapons to cleanse the lebensraum of subhumans.

Joshua Johnson
Joshua Johnson

I posted itGlad to see it has inspired further shitposting

Julian Phillips
Julian Phillips

Nuking Detroit would be a waste of time. Some place like Northern Virginia, Houston, Dallas, Denver, Redmond, etc. would get you far more bang for your buck.

Robert Sanders
Robert Sanders

nuking Detroit
not Tel Aviv, Mecca, or the three gorges dam

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Andrew Gomez
Andrew Gomez

rollan

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Luis Wright
Luis Wright

places
s
more than one
Who said Detroit was the only target. :^)

Leo Brown
Leo Brown

gain control of the nukes
What are you talking about? As long as they have the silo they have the nuke. Ffs….

Michael Hill
Michael Hill

Nuclear weapons have a launch code. Generally speaking Pvt.Dipshit and Maj.Fuckface don't have said code.

Jonathan Hernandez
Jonathan Hernandez

This is bullshit told to civilians to reassure them. Until recently US launch code was just 0 repeated because not a single silo bothered changing the default. Im not going to believe that its any different in 2019 just on the governments sayso either. I firmly believe any electrician can bypass the lockouts and I havent seen anything that contradicts this.
Worst case scenario just take an angle grinder to the warhead to extract the nuclear material and make your own explosive lens.

Ayden Mitchell
Ayden Mitchell

YES WIN
KILL

KILL

KILL

KILL

KILL

KILL

KILL

KILL

KILL

ZOGBOTS

Dominic Edwards
Dominic Edwards

That's not it works, that's not how of it works.

Alexander Rodriguez
Alexander Rodriguez

gizmodo.com/for-20-years-the-nuclear-launch-code-at-us-minuteman-si-1473483587
Those in the U.S. that had been fitted with the devices, such as ones in the Minuteman Silos, were installed under the close scrutiny of Robert McNamara, JFK's Secretary of Defence. However, The Strategic Air Command greatly resented McNamara's presence and almost as soon as he left, the code to launch the missile's, all 50 of them, was set to 00000000.
Oh, and in case you actually did forget the code, it was handily written down on a checklist handed out to the soldiers. As Dr. Bruce G. Blair, who was once a Minuteman launch officer, stated:
Our launch checklist in fact instructed us, the firing crew, to double-check the locking panel in our underground launch bunker to ensure that no digits other than zero had been inadvertently dialed into the panel.
The article fails to state that the entire nuclear system was upgraded to PAL only in the 90s, and it was until 2003 that the codes were changed - or so the government claims. I don't fucking trust that, I think for most warheads the password is still eight zeroes, and for the few warheads where it was changed its probably eight ones or 12345678.
Besides there's NO LOCKOUT protocol, so the attacker can simply enter codes all day until he hits the right one. 100 million combinations can be brute forced with a CPU chip found in a fucking flip phone in about one second.

And again the lockout can always be electrically bypassed or nuclear material stolen.

Nathaniel Carter
Nathaniel Carter

Maybe the seamen should be getting better in job training rather then SHARP training.

Jayden Green
Jayden Green

The code needs to be something simple enough for a 78 IQ nigger to remember, so it's either real simple or it's written down.

Josiah Sanders
Josiah Sanders

Blair's claim is a little dubious given that PAL has never used eight-digit codes, and nobody else remembers the alleged "all zeroes" line in the manual. He also claims that the codes were fixed in 1977.

As for the rest:
The article fails to state that the entire nuclear system was upgraded to PAL only in the 90s,
The last bomb PAL was installed in 1986. Most of the late missiles were Minuteman IIIs, which used a predecessor to PAL.
and it was until 2003 that the codes were changed - or so the government claims
The government denies that it ever happened.
Besides there's NO LOCKOUT protocol, so the attacker can simply enter codes all day until he hits the right one
You get three tries, after which point the PAL destroys the detonator.
And again the lockout can always be electrically bypassed
Only if you can build your own exploding-bridgewire detonators, because the detonator's electronics are all in the same tamper-proof housing as the PAL.

Gabriel Hill
Gabriel Hill

The most complex part of a Minuteman-III G, it's flight computer, is simpler and less advanced than a Super NES. They made an incredible feat of technology when in 2008 they added something bleeding edge called Random Access Memory instead of it's magnetic tape memory.

I have very strong doubts you can't easily bypass PAL…
It's a bit more modern has they had to change it completely in 2000. Because the Year 2000 bug was gonna trash all of US warhead as there was a date component to the auth chips that considered "00" for the year as null and therefore as an error.

Does that inspire confidence to you?

Brayden Rivera
Brayden Rivera

just play Rule the Waves
why would anyone need to do something? all you need is wait and eventually, burgers will do it themselfs
so what? i bet that you could make a flight computer without electronics. especially for nukes. its not like the city of moscow is going anywhere

Chase Sanders
Chase Sanders

You are one dumb mutherfucker if you think any electricians can bypass nuclear launch codes.

Most likely answer.

Hunter Peterson
Hunter Peterson

so what?
People think that military technology especially nukes are some incredibly advanced tech, when in reality it's commercial grade tech, slightly customized, that take 10 to 20 years to get adopted through an insane red tape net and stay in service for 30 (when it's not 60).

Meanwhile computer tech from 1980 to 2010 basically doubled in capacity and complexity every 9 months rendering technical security failsafe obsolete at an insane pace, because it's considerably easier to trick old systems with newer ones.
So if you have physical access to the warhead chances are high that if you know what you're doing, you can bypass PAL.
Best security on sensitive material will always be a guy with a gun that know who is allowed to access and who isn't.
PAL is silly on the first place. The idea that you would let politicians dictate the course of wars is ludicrous, I can't imagine a scenario where the military wouldn't have the last word on deploying or not nuclear weapons.

Ethan Cook
Ethan Cook

The idea that you would let politicians dictate the course of wars is ludicrous
Absolutely this.

James Mitchell
James Mitchell

MUH OMNIPOTENT GUVMNT

DEY KEEPS US SAVE!

A rocket doesn't get launched with codes, it gets launched with an electric impulse. Nor does an explosive lens initiate with codes, it initiates with an electrical impulse. If you think it can't be bypassed you're a fucking retard.

If nukes were that safe and impossible to steal, why the fuck invest in all those guards with guns around nukes then? Fucking dumbass.

Americans need an impossible tamperfoolproof Pearl Harbor happening every 4 years to keep them sane, or else the blinders come back up.

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Xavier Thompson
Xavier Thompson

It's the same with all military technology, F-22 has sum total 10.5MHz processor. A flip phone you can buy on the street for $25 has 900MHz.
F-35 brags about 2.8 million lines of software 99% cookie cutter garbage code that doesn't work whereas a server game like war thunder has hundreds of millions…. although we've gone around the bend and modern AAA games have only about 100k lines of code because the engine optimization is so good. Military tech won't have that kind of efficiency for the next thousand years.

It's just a bunch of sad, pathetic individuals who WANT the government to be omnipotent so they can feel safe. Whenever some new military toy comes out you can hear them screeching in the background this is just what they let us see! imagine the ufo they have in some black site! It's hilarious.

Nathaniel Hall
Nathaniel Hall

The idea that you would let politicians dictate the course of wars is ludicrous
HONK HONK

Ayden Peterson
Ayden Peterson

Haha

Xavier Flores
Xavier Flores

Nice flag

Jack White
Jack White

Best security on sensitive material will always be a guy with a gun that know who is allowed to access and who isn't.
Too bad this in a couple of year will mean
brown person = access
small nosed white person = big NO NO NO

Easton Cox
Easton Cox

Military tech won't have that kind of efficiency for the next thousand years.

modern software
efficient
Dude. Modern aircraft are falling out of the sky because of regression in quality of modern software, and it's developers. Modern software are largely shit, because people writing them have no fucking clue as to what is happening in hardware level, or even how the fuck are various components in the system interacting with each other. People who knew how that stuff worked, are now retired and you're now stuck with hipsters and pajeets.

Jordan Rodriguez
Jordan Rodriguez

Modern aircraft are falling out of the sky because of regression in quality of modern software
Based pajeets, nobody can do it cheaper than them.

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Chase Davis
Chase Davis

with hipsters and pajeets
And women, let's never forget the role women have in all of this.

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Jonathan Collins
Jonathan Collins

Can I get a repost of it, please?

Christian Kelly
Christian Kelly

I like how this didn't appear on Canadian media at all, but we still had time and print space to publish article after article about how Trump is evil. Our newspapers are 100% controlled by CIA.

Henry Clark
Henry Clark

Not entirely the software's fault. The pilot flying these planes weren't being properly trained for this new feature and have since been trained.

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Brayden Perez
Brayden Perez

company installs software and hardware sensors
neglects to tell customers and pilots that it exists
software makes airplane ram into the earth unless it has the right sensor data
new sensors only work if you buy the DLC pack
<this is pilot error
lol what

Daniel Brooks
Daniel Brooks

In an alternate universe
737 MAX engines still need to be mounted further up than normal for ground clearance
no software is installed to correct for the nose pointing to far up
but it's not all bad, pilots are warned and trained to be mindful of the nose up on take off
wakandan kang flyin this bitch
oh fuck nigga wtf is happenin to the nose n'shiet
hundreds still die
what was the counter play?

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Jace Ross
Jace Ross

Mount engines as normal and make the landing gear longer like airbus did? It was already mentioned in this thread, blaming niggers doesnt make the Max not shit.

Oliver Murphy
Oliver Murphy

I had posted a response but the gyronigger deleted all my posts.

Christopher Johnson
Christopher Johnson

See

Alexander Nguyen
Alexander Nguyen

leaf
Nothing of value lost

Lincoln Parker
Lincoln Parker

blow me like ur mum fgt

Mason Gutierrez
Mason Gutierrez

gyronigger deleted all my posts.
Is that guy made of butthurt? Seems like he deletes more posts than an average feminist mod.

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Bentley Green
Bentley Green

roll

Camden Powell
Camden Powell

roll

Easton Brown
Easton Brown

deleting this post
Gyronigger, why are you so buttmad?

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Anthony Martin
Anthony Martin

He should've just suck to deleting muttspammer's posts, the board was fine when every new reply wasn't "mut mutt mutt mutt mutt mutt".
Seriously what the fuck are you doing gyro?
Stop mass deleting shit with no explanation whatsoever

Kevin Robinson
Kevin Robinson

implying there's any quality to Zig Forums to make it really matter
What's the last decent thread this board has had?
Zig Forums looks more and more like /b/ with guns than anything.

Ethan Robinson
Ethan Robinson

leaf derailed an entire thread by himself and (if I remember correctly) turned it into a racial statistics thread
accidentally I deleted all his posts instead of only the ones in that thread
dumb hohol who only ever posts when it comes to bitching about moderation, finds an excuse to stir up shit again
As for the "mass deleting shit", I don't. The only things that get deleted are derailments and garbage 0 effort threads that belong either in the QTDDTOT or cuckchan.
Also look at this and tell me that it is a good thread that should stay in the catalog.

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Jose Lopez
Jose Lopez

Gyro, what percentage of shitposters are Canadian? Don't be discouraged from maintaining board quality, these fags are just the halfchan transplants from earlier this year

Nathaniel Thomas
Nathaniel Thomas

Nowadays it's mostly been american IPs, meaning that the rarer flags in the past few months rather than fucking off have started using VPNs instead. The leaf also has a pretty abhorrent post history and was also the one who made the cuckchan thread in Spergkike is still around but has cooled his autism by a wide margin, though some times I still get a few glimpses of muttposting in threads, usually by him.
The biggest issue right now are the shit threads that appear daily.

Justin Young
Justin Young

Thank you for your service, I fully approve of cuckchanners being shat down upon. If it weren't for you the board quality would be nu-/pol/ tier

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Grayson Morgan
Grayson Morgan

state a fact
ten people get butthurt and derail thread by ganging up on me to "prove me wrong"
im to blame for not bending knee and saying im wrong even though i know im not
lol come the fuck on, the other guys bear no blame? It's not my fucking fault they can't say "its just like your opinion man".

Eli Torres
Eli Torres

Oh and that thread was about WWII firearms training, go fuck yourself.

Kayden Nelson
Kayden Nelson

Silence syrupnigger, you have no defenses left. Canadians are a blight upon the face of Zig Forums, and it has been a long time coming for the medicated cream to be applied, the cream of ass raping. Throughout time without exception every leaf post I have had the displeasure of reading has been utterly insufferable in its retardation with reddit characteristics, providing nothing to the given thread but derailment and innumerable awe struck (you)s gawking at the magnitude of the faggotry. The leaf is a man who enters a party, reaches into his pants and pulls out a turtlehead of shit to smear it all over himself in front of the astonished crowd. And then he has the audacity to complain when he is yelled out and kicked out. Leaf, you are not an Australian and you never will be. Your posts are not funny, not witty, and never come close to satire or appropriate irony. You lack the intellect to achieve the perfect balance of shit that the Australian is so adapt at, and so you have dived deeper into post-irony hoping to find a competitive sort of humor, but instead you have reached the septic tank of comedy from which 4niggers drink. You do not even amuse as an autistic sperg does, as even they aren't as pathetic as your breed. Canadians, I implore you to look at yourselves in the mirror, and realize that you are looking at the face of a man beyond any redemption, a man who has fallen so far in the attempt to reach the Heavens that he resembles the Devil more than his neighbor. Pray for Canada, for they are staring down the muzzles of the cannons of God's wraith, and are in constant waiting for the slowmatch of lamentations to be applied. Canadians, repent for your evils before you have been obliterated in righteous fire and fury, the hour approaches

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Joseph Brooks
Joseph Brooks

make a one-line shitpost OP
<oy vey my perfectly legitimate thread got deleted, how could this happen

Carter Davis
Carter Davis

How many did US navy ships collided?

Henry Bailey
Henry Bailey

Well that's the last time I defend a bunch of Americans from the mutt meme.

Jayden Diaz
Jayden Diaz

I miss Fred Phelps.

Benjamin Fisher
Benjamin Fisher

feeling the need to defend anyone from bants
Why? The retards who can't handle it deserve to be mocked, and are probably the same kind of moron who got mad at the clapper meme when that was still popular.
What nobody likes is when it's spammed. Spam is the most utterly obnoxious form of shitposting outside of pretending to be retarded.

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