US Navy Rams Evil Canadian Vessel

My point is a near miss gets a pilot grounded, I'm yet to hear of a captain loosing his ship for being a fuckhead but not actually hitting something.

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It might also of interest that Japan had the first AESA on the Mitsubishi F-2 in 1995, before the yanks could put it in the F-22
It's a sad state of affairs when the "greatest Navy in the world" has to rely on naval well maybe not entirely technology coming from a country that builds leaning ships that are too fat to be upgraded.

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Aviation is more visible. You have ATC watching everything as sharply as they can specifically to avoid collisions, and moreover because collisions in the air are so much more dangerous (how many of these freighters have sunk? Airborne collisions are 99.9% fatal), near-misses are much more likely to get attention.
Besides, nobody cares about boats. Planes are more interesting. And cargo planes are basically indistinguishable from passenger ones, while ugly rusty cargo ships are very different from pretty cruise liners, so nearly hitting a cargo ship doesn't matter, while nearly hitting any kind of plane is a big deal.

I'd also imagine there are more captains willing to risk it than pilots, too, so the few pilots who actually do pull stunts like that get no sympathy from anyone over their suicidal retardation. Again, a ship collision is quite safe (for the bridge, at least) while a plane collision will almost certainly kill the pilot. Additionally, there are more people involved in the decision to turn a ship. A pilot makes the decision and implements it on his own, or some ATC notices and would never hesitate to issue directions the pilot has no reason not to follow. In a ship the captain makes a decision, and numerous people are involved in implementing it, and he has a crew of hundreds he has to "save face" in front of by not being too acquiescent. It's also a faster, snappier decision to turn a plane than a ship, with no times for games once you realize you're on a collision course.

Nipbro, please rebuild the Yamato and trash the entire US Navy with it.

They've gone so desperate from knowing that carriers are outdated that they're trying to test ramming as the next big thing in naval combat since it seems to work for Chinese freighters.

It's not that, the other ship was anchored in port and not moving at all. The Navy ship basically did the equivalent of smashing their vehicle into a building.

We live in a society.

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I know, the nip basically invented AESA (at least had the tech mass producible first) that but even the germans refitted their Bremen-class with some in the mid 90's. Even us had PESA radars (on export ships, no money) at that time and god knows our naval tradition is almost on par with Russia.

Another day
Another USN ship hits a commercial ship.

Is it bad this is just a normal occurance these days?

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If the captain of a Freedom-class passenger liner were to deliberately plot a collision course with a Freedom-class LCS would anyone notice?
Especially if the captain of the liner is black woman.

Why not build another Ryuujou or Shin'yo for extra points in anti-semitism class CVE with a full complement of Type 95s and D3As?
The sight of a squadron of 1930s propeller planes approaching on a bombing run from the blind spot of the LCS' barely functioning/manned AESA radar is sure to strike terror in at least 56% of its crew.

Yeah, it's pretty hard to evade another ship when you can see around for many kilometres and it would take dozens of minutes until you actually hit the other ship. No American can expect to have such fast reaction times to evade something you're driving towards for half an hour.

Didn't the amerifats start claiming that the chinks/russians were 'hacking' their ships to crash into stuff before?

I think you failed to understand what I wrote.
The fact that you have longer to react to a collision course in a ship is exactly one of the reasons I gave for why they happen.

You're assuming the LCS "main gun" works… the German radar probably does, even if it runs on liquid gold or something unnecessarily complicated (but then at half a billion the corvette I hope they gouged the fucking burgers).
Private companies have standards, pic related is the first related when looking up the Freedom-class MS Freedom of Seas Captain of Royal Caribbean International.

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Having a Shin'yo would be fun too, but I miss the days of huge cannons raining down heavy shells.
I wonder if it would be possible to make something like the type 3 shell except not shit. Setting bases on fire with cannons make me smile.

What's the biggest cannon one could reasonably fit on a monitor Zeppelin?

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I see USN decided to go back to its roots. To become an elite force by understanding what came before. Right now they're practicing ramming, like the ancient triremes.

nearly hitting a tanker worth literal billions, or an LPG/LNG ship worth even more, doesn't matter because dude it isn't pretty lmao

Do you mean fit on it as in 'that a zeppelin could technically carry'? Or as in 'that could be fired from a zeppelin without sending the airship spiraling all over the place'?

Let's start with an airship equivalent to the Hindenburg as our base vehicle (no thermite pain or anything like that this time though). That gives us around 10'000kg of payload to work with, which doesn't seem to give us much room for any of the 'superguns' I can find. Even the larger naval cannons would be too much if it has to carry ammunition and fuel, crew, etc. You might be able to fit an AS90/PzH 2000 equivalent with all the kit you'd need to fire it though.

If you went with an An-225 Mriya you'd have the weight to carry something more substantial, either a WWI tier big gun or a small battery of smaller pieces hooked up to the same trigger.

The point is that they look very different, so people perceive them as being different, whereas planes look the same, so people perceive them as being the same. Yes, there's a lot of money at stake, but how many people see the headline that a tanker got hit and have anything more than the mildest possible reaction? Nobody cares since it was just a cargo ship. But if a plane nearly gets hit, regardless of what it's carrying, people get worked up because it could just as easily have been a passenger jet. That difference of perception applies to the higher-ups too. Money isn't a big deal if you're not paying for it (or not directly paying), but if you get someone killed people start caring.

Obligatory.

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rollan

I can see it happening, we live in a clown world

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I've always felt Zig Forums is a bit too slow for roulettes to be really effective. Dice are enabled, may as well use them.

I guess it's decided. Lighthouses of the world, beware.

Russia and China shouldn't even bother researching new anti ship missiles or torpedoes. They should instead just pay (((politicians))) to push for more diversity in the Navy. The effect is going to be the same for a fraction of the cost.

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Remember it's polite to sage your rolls so that the thread isn't constantly bumped.

Rollan.

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m8 when you're underway you only need to steer the wheel to turn the ship, you can even command the engine remotely ffs

I don't know a lot about Naval ships. I thought there was a separate helmsman who the commanding officer gave instructions to, not to mention things like navigators (especially in shallower waters where you need to worry about where it's safe to go). In any event it's not about the difficulty, it's about ordering the crew to be the ones to back down in a unilateral game of chicken.

Congratulations, you've just invented Comintern.

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Regarding cargo ships, the crew knows absolutely nothing of what happens on the bridge, where there's one officer and maybe one seaman and the captain whenever he feels like it. Ships today can be commanded by one person during navigation: there's an autopilot which keeps the ship on due course, and the ECDIS which keeps track of all objects around it and alerts the bridge crew when a collision course is detected. The commanding officer is a glorified office worker while at sea.

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Gimme something juicy.

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Well let's see what the people of nigger in our glorious navy will do next

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If only the USN was this incompetent in the last war would we have won without having to bomb Pearl Harbour.

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Pretty obvious what is going to happen.

Eleven?

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LHD to lighthouse. Clownworld indeed.

kek

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Come on, give me the Nimitz/rowboat combo.

DAY OF THE RAKE!

CANADUPS BTFO

What’s next? Is the Navy going to ran an aircraft carrier aground in a port?

Will the USN ever even come close to admitting that it's sheer incompetence what's crashing these ships? Or is there something more sinister at work?

Rollan

Is it humanly possible to ram a port or a lighthouse into a ship?

No, it's just incompetence.
What do you expect from diversity hires?

Human ingenuity knows no bounds Strelok..
Maybe the USN will put out an RFP for counter lighthouse and port ramming equipment.

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I got it. We stick a giant chainsaw on the bow of the ship. That way, you can ram and wreck stuff better, demoralize the enemy with your giant ship chainsaw, and look ridiculous cool at the same time.
Of course, you want the chainsaw to be effective. Therefore we need the teeth to be diamond-tipped for better cutting, and to use a proprietary energy source that i'll come up with later.
I'll take that paycheck now.

Rolling for nimitz and row boat.

This is the transcript of a radio conversation of a US naval ship with Canadian authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in October, 1995. Radio conversation released by the Chief of Naval Operations 10-10-95.

Memes aside, is the frequency of that happening anywhere near normal for international shipping?

Context behind that image?

Foto vom letztjährigen G7-Gipfel Im Style von KanColle

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It happens, but it's rare as fuck unless everybody on the bridge is retarded, drunk, and asleep.
Seems to be every other week these days.

Would cargo ships converted to suicide drones filled with explosives be the most effective anti-ship weapon against the Burger Empire Navy in CY+4?
Bonus if they're crewed and registered as mostly legit somewhere, have small spotter drone aircraft and a fast escape boat for the crew after they plot the ship's final course.
US SIGINT has gotten so embarassingly poor the suicide ship's crew could probably even fake disturbed radio calls from their remote command escape vehicle via encrypted tethering and still get away with it.

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Israeli aircraft. They are literally immune to American defenses. They just attack their ships and the americans pretend nothing is happening, once everyone is dead the government hides all trace of the incident

Just fortify them enough so that ramming inflicts no damage to the cargo ship and then have a filipino tranny in a captain hat to deflect all blame.

Having the cargo ship hoist an Israeli flag might be a decent way to deter American crews from engaging hostilities but it'd also have a high chance of them actually trying to avoid the ship thus defeating its purpose.

But then how would you guarantee the destruction of the enemy vessel?

Just putting it out of commission would suffice. Just ram them again once the vessel leaves repairs.
By the third time it'll be outdated and need to be salvaged or turned into a museum

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I swear I've read this story somewhere before, but where?

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I think about user posted a similar greentext story when USS John McCain crashed.

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Not as expensive as you think. The oil and gas industry have been using synthetic diamonds in drill bits for years. Or, we could liberate some shithole in Africa and turn their blood diamonds into McFreedom Diamonds™. We just need to make sure we have enough troops to invade after most of them are court martialed for shooting children.

Nice try. That joke's been around since before Pearl Harbor.
snopes.com/fact-check/the-obstinate-lighthouse/

Who would win, Chad Spaniard or Cucked Burger?

Didnt they ram a russian ship too? Who the fuck is driving these boats, if you crash once per week youre losing 50 ships a year, and not even completely losing…. Having a damaged ship waiting in drydock for repair is 1000 times worse than having the ship sink completely. It takes up dock space while politicians argue whether or not to fund the repair, yet if it sank a brand new ship could be built in about the same time.

Is this how American global hegemony ends?

Lol trying to make excuses for not a single individual on the LCS seeing an anchored ship slowly get larger over the period of several hours. Or did they see it but think it was an rigid hull inflatable overexpanding?

Literal niggermutts.

It helps, but not yet. The US needs to do something incredibly, mindnumbingly stupid so that anyone except the most boomer of boomers can see what a sad joke this country has become.

I dont think the Imperial Navy has lost this many ships per year since WWII.

Russian crew avoided them last minute.

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Another plus about cargo ships is that they're very hard to sink. Most tankers and LPG/LNG ships have double-hulls, whatever you hit them with will have to penetrate both in order to cause actual damage.

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Checked and since brought up when I play WoWarships can't help but think how fun would it be to be able to customize ships so that I could minmax a BB or CV into a dedicated rammer.

I don't see a problem

>ywn narrowly avoid collision with an US aircraft carrier only to open up a full broadside of Iranian anti-ship missiles at

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With this joke being around for as long as it has been, i wonder why nobody has done something really stupid.
Either some dedicated tard could build a floating pile of junk with the shape of a light house or one of the current nation being pissed at the Americans could name a small ship "lighthouse".
Of course, any of these two has to be sent in the way of every fucking bigger ship, and repeatedly at every possible occasion, until no big ship wants to go into that region to avoid being the butt of a joke.

It's already functionally over. Everyone else is just trying to slow roll it because parasitic Americans till have nuclear weapons and they still want to cash out their investments in America.

When America and the rest of the west goes full civil war and America and us are is Balkanized how would the control of the nukes be established? Would ICBM Silos become useless when control is lost or is there any way for new governments to manage to gain control of the nukes in their regions?

Hopefully they do the sane thing like South Africa and dismantle them before the niggers and spics get their subhuman hands on them.

Why not use a few of them for good measure.
Nuking places like Detroit would be useful.

In a sane world a few hundred would be launched at Israel. But if you're already throwing nukes around it's simply better to use chemical weapons to cleanse the lebensraum of subhumans.

I posted itGlad to see it has inspired further shitposting

Nuking Detroit would be a waste of time. Some place like Northern Virginia, Houston, Dallas, Denver, Redmond, etc. would get you far more bang for your buck.

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rollan

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Who said Detroit was the only target. :^)