so you just literally confirmed that protestants can't even decide of the bread of life is metaphorical or literal. they can't decide if you can baptise infants or not. they can't decide if there are sacraments or not. they can't decide if baptism is needed for salvation or not. i can go on forever.
and are you really that braindead you're using some idiotic stats about what the laity in the US are doing, as if it has any relevance to the teachings of the catholic church? imagine being this stupid.
i'm talking about the official doctrines of protestant churches, not just wacky people. and wow, here's the thing, it's because literally any wacky person can start their own church, and it literally happens. you can literally start your own e-church protestant denomination where you preach your own doctrine.
i'm not sure to reply to you in good faith or if you're just totally brain dead with arguments like what about james martin etc. it's a total strawman argument, no one is saying all so called catholics actually know or follow their faith. for protestants thats probably an issue because literally anyone can start their own version of some new denomination. for us the church teachings are the church teachings, that is the church. it's irrelevant if there are only 10 people who follow it or if literally no one follows it even. the church teachings don't change. there will never be gay marriage in the catholic church, but the protestant churches are overflowing with it. are they not protestants? are there not protestant denominations that officially teach it's okay to have gay sex and perform gay marriages? the answer is yes.
William Hughes
No, they are not protestants. Protestants follow sola scriptura. These people attack scripture, call it a fallible product of it's time, call Paul a misogynist and a closet case and say his words are just his opinion, etc.
5 splits in 2k years is a really good result. Especially with the orientals officially agreeing with the rest they have the same christology, assyrians reconciling with Rome, and CC-EO Commission making breakthroughs every couple of years
Do you not eat food as if it is God's? Every single aspect of our life must be dedicated to God. You say flesh like it's a bad thing. I personally don't hate the material world and neither does God.
Ryder Russell
I merely presented to you the different views found in different theological traditions. The correct view is the Reformed view, btw. I could demonstrate that these abominable views are found among your clergy, too. But hey, that just means that I'm "braindead" and "stupid". Boy, if only I had the Vicar of Christ to tell me what to think! You haven't cited any confessional statements, any synodal declarations, or anything of the sort. You are aware that there is a structure in most churches, right? That, quite literally, no one can just up and start a church without the approval of the elders. I understand that you think Protestantism boils down to "me, my Bible, under a tree," but it's more organized than you give it credit for. The Scriptures wouldn't have established the office of elder if any Tom, Dick, or Harry could just go and do whatever. And as for the "e-church" denominations, it goes back to why they founded it. If it was with the approval of the elders, then I'd wonder how they'd meet for the Lord's Day. Otherwise, guaranteed to veer off the teachings of the Scriptures. Is James Martin not a public figure? Is he not an ordained priest in your church? Does he not have the authority to preach and teach? See, in Protestant churches, elders would have no problem excommunicating him if he didn't stop teaching such blatant error. But Rome, for whatever reason, continues to let him do what he does. Might want to tell Pope Francis about this, since he's deciding that capital punishment is now "inadmissible". But hey, he's the Pontifex Maximus and Vicar of Christ, he surely can't be wrong! No, they're not. They claim the title but don't follow the teachings. Otherwise they wouldn't be such heretics. It's a stretch to call them "Protestant", considering they usually have a low view of Scripture, allegorize almost everything, and ignore previous sub-Biblical credal statements that unambiguously decry sodomy as the wicked sin it is. They consider Holy Writ to be fallible, historic products of fallible man without the charism of the Holy Spirit, so it's no surprise that they'll think they can ignore the clear condemnations from it. I can tell by the way you're speaking and throwing around terms like "braindead" that you're a bit flustered. Relax, breathe, drink some water. I understand it's difficult to be a Catholic these days, what with Francis doing his thing, the homosexual scandals in your clergy, and whatnot. Nonetheless, it's no reason to get so buttfrustrated.
