Is arrogance the actual quality one needs to have faith?

We're taking about whether science is the only method of rational inquiry or not. If anything your argument proves the main reason why people defend scientism so much nowadays, because they are fascinated by the very usefulness of recent technological developments (by the way, this purely empirical way of thinking has many drawbacks because it's based on the complete domination of man over nature. But that's a different topic for another day I guess).

Those modern philosophical problems like solipsism only arise if you have a purely materialistic conception of the world. You think there is gap between mind and reality because you think there are no universals.

Well, actually, other people were talking about that - I was just kind of going along with it because it's interesting.

Well, if you had taken the time to read all of my replies (they are numerous and lengthy at times) you would see I think quite the opposite.

And regardless of such, it doesnt in anyway prove the biblical supernatural stories, it merely proves that we know absolutely nothing at all. So, if you want to use the logic that sense we dont know anything, maybe the bible is real in its entirety, that seems like a valid course to take. I just don't think its very practical, so state it kindly.

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Then great, you should look into Scholastic realism. I guarantee you it will not disappoint you because it is purely based on logic.
where did I say that?

Well, I can certainly look into it, but I am not really lost for direction, or seeking answers. I have accepted life as is, it sucks, and were stuck here because of our instincts to survive and not kill ourselves. There is no happiness/contentment without self delusion, religious delusion or regular delusion. And I know I can't ever do that, so life for me is just random vice after vice to distract me from this truth.

Sorry, just assumed since you were posting here.

Wow that is sad user. I really wish you could find God. Your kind of thinking is exactly what happens with modernity, people have no purpose because we have lost God. To evaluate modernity you have to distance yourself and one of the things that help is honestly religion. It's not something you will figure out in a day or with some posts though. Why not start with with some apologetics like Tim Keller.

OP here, new ID probably.

I'm middle aged almost, I've read pretty much every philosophers work that has been written, from helenic times (socrates→plato, epicurus, marcus aurelius, seneca etc..) all the way to modernity (blackburn, searle, burge, chalmers, simons, chomsky yada yada).

I have tried meditation, diets, workouts, self help, medication, therapy, and the rest of the infomercial fodder. I have examined pretty much most religions in existence today, from obscure ones still practiced in sparsely populated east asian cultures, to buddhism and of course christianity.

But, for the thinking man (i do consider myself somewhat of a thinking man), there really is nothing that will ever make him forget that he is ultimately here alone, waiting to deteriorate, watch his loved ones get sick/deteriorate, and no one can change this. The only solution people seem to have found is to believe in an afterlife, which I can see why they do, when it comes to the burden of torture until nothingness, I cant blame people for throwing logic and common sense out the window in order to dampen the pain.

I see I see… you are very learned with all these books… but tell me… have you tried reading THE BIBLE? you know, giving the benefit of the doubt that if God really does exist, he might try to talk to you through it??? Or have you even read it simply as a work of art or philosophy??

you know who you remind me of? you remind me of the woman bleeding for 12 years trying to be healed by every physician and spending all she had only to get worse. She heard about Jesus, and then she decided… hmmmmmmm. maybe if she only touches his garment, she would be healed. mind you back in those days a ritually unclean jewish woman like her would be shunned - anyone she touched would also be marked for uncleanliness - so it was a big risk socially, physically, etc. (btw, history exists, and learning about ancient peoples will help you to understand their ancient stories you big nerd) But she sucks it up, because she has nothing to lose at this point.

And guess what, she was made whole.

How about you try touching His garment, aka His book, with your mind. Yes, the bible is not God, but perhaps searching earnestly for what you know you need, wholeness, he might just grant it for you, in your desperation, and in your measly faith.

For those that ask (on a mongolian woodworking forum), will receive. Seek, and you will find. Knock, and it will be opened unto you.

now that im thinking about it you should also read Orthodoxy by mr Chesterton.

also stop being an emo teen w muh big brains. You are alone, and its because youre choosing to be alone. You recognize the fleeting moments on this earth as for what they are, vanity. (read Ecclesiastes) The very fact that you recognize their futility is due to a higher sense, and "aught to be". A fish in water cant tell that its in water, because its completely submerged and surrounded by water. A person with no eyes has no clue what dark is. But you know how cruel this world can be, and thats because you intrinsically know a higher Good. Humble yourself and beg for mercy you big dingus-

For the proud remain always in poverty and misery, because His grace turns away from them to humble souls.

hey you ever think that while youre calling everyone who isnt having a gay emo session delusional, that maybe you might be the delusional one??? People in this thread have been giving you fat responses of eloquence, and you just brush them off without really engaging with what they saying w "muh atoms n proofs duuuuuh i cant trust my inner soul to ponder what these people have personally said to me personally, i need to see it with my eyeballs".
you remind me of the guy walking around his house, each room smelling like poop. the whole time the poop was on his mustache.

maybe you might react to my word vomit. Forgive me, i just ate a nice dinner after working all day so i dont have that prayer + fast amplified HOLY GHOST POWER tm, but hey God works in mysterious ways.

Seriously though before i go to bed ill pray for your dumb emo ass, thanks for coming by i can tell by your responses that you really want to drink from the water of life and Our Lord is good, im sure He will oblige as He has for me , your brother and fellow sinner.

God bless and forgive me Christanons for this terrible unedited mess

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