IT'S winnie the pooh HAPPENING

Not a Cathbro. In on what exactly? I can only guess this has to do with getting a previous pope's spot by crook?

If that happened then all involved were AUTOMATICALLY EXCOMMUNICATED. Lord have mercy on us all, Lord Jesus Christ keep grant us grace to stand firm in the scandal, Mother Mary pray for us and and ask your son to protect the good clergy.

*clears throat*
Hes infallible to heresies

twitter.com/michaelbd/status/1033547778268360705

BENEDICT CONFIRMS

PIZZAGATE WAS REAL EXCEPT IT WAS IN THE VATICAN

THIS IS ACTUALLY INCREDIBLE

ALL THE CRAZIEST CONSPIRACY THEORIES ABOUT WHY BENEDICT RESIGNED ARE TURNING OUT TO BE TRUE

ITS HAPPENING

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No he isn't. Papal infallibility only covers a very very specific thing.

listen to what you're saying….

So not only did the Pope know about McCarricks' pedophilia and homosexuality but he lifted sanctions against him AND rewarded him??

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And not only McCarrick, but Maradiaga, Wuerl, and a host of other known homosexual abusers and abuse enablers. He apparently owes his election to McCarrick pulling strings, according to this letter. He is a puppet of the homosexuals.

Is this what St Peter thought when he started the Church?

The time is NOW.

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No, he had something like this in mind.

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Well, like the Chinese said, "May you live in interesting times." It's about to get real interesting in Rome if this holds up.

In the other article, if I am reading it correctly, NCR did get ahold of him and confirmed previous punishment, if I am reading it correctly after he had to be informed through a third party…since people at the Vatican were running interference for Ted apparently. I wonder how many abuse notes slipped through the cracks…

Tweet's gone?

Are you an immigrant to this site? Please learn to link properly.

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Who's gonna fight, the pedos vs the pedos?

And that's what you get when you don't pray to your gods, but to Jewish greed instead.

Nothing is happening.

"Lel hey guys why don't you stop asking me to do something about this abuse scandal and just go pray and fast?"
Tfw

Is it bad to pray for Pope Francis to resign? We need a real man as a Pope, someone married like St. Peter, someone with balls, someone who will preach fire and brimstone and advocate death penalty for rapists.

This is the most embarrassing tradcath meme. He was a key figure in bringing about VII. Just because he wasn't as rabid a liberal and ecumenist as JPII doesn't mean he wasn't cut from the same cloth. In all likelihood, Ratzinger was blackmailed into resigning.

Is this bait? Because pagan gods were portrayed as notorious pedophiles

The truth is that MSM are trying to bury it for the moment

No, we dont need someone who is married just like we dont need a woman. People like ypu seem to have some fetish that involves priests having sex

get your mind out of the gutter, sicko

Well, Francis is a Jesuit. Those guys have acted as a homosexual mafia within the Church for at least 70 years.

Just a reminder to our Catholic brothers that Orthodox Church will welcome you with open arms

*slurps*

Its not me the one with the fetish, where the desirable aspect of Peter was that he was married from before.

Hello newfriend, please lurk some more.

Is it so terminally naive of me to think Benedict had some kind of crisis of conscience in his later days and betrayed the wishes of the St Galen group? Trying to Christian charity and all.

I'm proteststant, but I recognize the rich and valuable history of the Catholic Chirch and how muvh Christianity as a whole owes to it. I pray that God uses this to make it pure again.

I guess it's happening for real

dioceseoftyler.org/news/2018/08/bishop-stricklands-public-statement-to-the-diocese/

Let us be clear that they are still allegations but as your shepherd I find them to be credible

If this keeps on going could this lead to yet another Papal Schism?

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Western Schism 2? Rerun of conciliarism? Could be a mess…I'd like to take baby steps here and see how the next short period plays out, there are many possibilities that have been opened up.

I'm seriously waiting for some people to just storm the Vatican and defenestrate the demagogue.

Might as well toss this here, pic says it all but it finally happened.

churchmilitant.com/news/article/episcopal-sodomy-pope-francis-must-resign

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lifesitenews.com/news/cardinal-burke-responds-to-former-us-nuncios-explosive-letter-about-pope-fr

Now a Cardinal is publicly demanding this be investigated! Does this have any precedent in recent Church history?

Well, Burke is one the dubia officials. I'm not really surprised he'd chime in a reasonably timely fashion, the main event is if anyone else also speaks up at his level.

FRANCIS RESPONDS:

catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-i-will-not-say-a-single-word-on-viganos-allegations-of-cover-up-65149

This non-response is practically an admission of guilt. He doesn't even deny anything.

...

But Viganò was mean to gays so it's a right-wing conspiracy theory. Modernists are moving to defending pederasts rather than turning against their leaders. If Francis isn't ousted and the next Pope isn't orthodox, we're in for either total collapse or secretive rule by child winnie the poohing psychopaths. In one sense it's horrifying, in another I'm glad that all the info is out there and real battle lines can finally be drawn.

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despair not, i see glorious times ahead of us

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… by not responding

Pope is a pedo fag enabler and rewarder. It's that simple.

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I'm not sure the "I'm not going to defend myself" thing is really reasonable given the circumstances. It's one thing to figuratively martyr yourself to the public to defend against a sinful thing, it's another to no-sell an accusation that has to do with child and adult rape being covered up. For some reason I'm thinking of Matthew 18 suddenly…

You have to reframe it slightly. Then the outcome of a potential new schism seems less clear.

ah, more plastic words from our beloved papa

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Oh please this is like the third time the has happened.
The pornocracy sounds like a band name
Alexander VI
Leo X

are those gondolas?

This is very disturbing, how hard would it be to just say "of course that's not true"?
Is it supposed to be some sort of cool and collected dismissal? He must know that people are foaming at the mouth over this. What kind of response is "let's just see how it plays out" when people (including cardinals) are calling for your abdication?
The political shit was strike 1, ignoring the dubia was strike 2. This sort of flippancy about pederasty and mafia tier conspiracy within your ranks is inexcusable.

I haven't been following this closely (not Catholic barely even Christian atm) but what's all these references to 'dubia' relate to if you could inform me pls?

Well long story short the Pope wrote an apostolic letter called Amoris Laetitia where basically, seems like, he said that inter-communion with protestants and giving communion to divorced catholics was ok, and some conservative cardinals like Burke wrote him a letter with questions (Dubia) to clarify if this was the case. Francis never answered

Well this is huge. What I'm not sure is if this is "excommunicating Archbishop Lefebvre" huge or "protestant reformation" huge or somewhere in between.

I see, thanks for answering

Can we atleast replace censure with "Duckling" instead of this? it really creates awkward situation. I cant even watch winnie pooh cartoon with my little brother normally anymore.

ya i'd prefer ducking too… it just makes things really hard to read

Monsignor Jean-François Lantheaume, former first counsellor at the apostolic nunciature in Washington D.C.: Viganò said the truth. That’s all.
catholicnewsagency.com/news/former-nunciature-official-vigano-said-the-truth-38319

More support, from a different American representative official.

I'd prefer you guys to stop swearing so much

CARDINAL TOBIN RESPONDS:

rcan.org/statement-response-testimony-archbishop-carlo-maria-viganò-former-apostolic-nuncio-united-states

AP COVERS FOR THE PEDOPHILES, CALLS VIGANO'S TESTIMONY A CONSPIRACY THEORY, TRIES TO DISCREDIT HIM BY CALLING HIM A RIGHT-WING HOMOPHOBE

time.com/5378748/pope-francis-abuse-allegations-mccarrick-letter/

MSM IS GOING TO TRY TO COVER THIS UP AND MEMORY-HOLE IT!

No surprise.

A little surprised. I thought the MSM would love a chance to rip on the church…but it would seem in this case they might have more "selective" outrage? Needless to say the lukewarm liberals will probably take them up on that, if it's a choice between faith and party, party wins…

It's ok to rape kids if they live in the middle of siberia

Benedictus used to be a Liberal in the 60s but realised he was wrong and became full trad later. He even said some of his announcements in Latin and gave broader permissions to TLM

Call me once you stop bootlicking putin.

Putin invaded my country and occupied 1/5th of it. Nice false witness.

No thanks.

Yes it is. Unity through Christ and in Eucharistic Union instead of some guy. Also reporting for your uncharitable behaviour. I hope a several days rest from chan will bring you back in normal form.

Unity =/= catholic
Catholic means universal which is something you guys are not.
And by uncharitable then all orthos would be banned from this board. Some even behave worse than non Baptist prots.

I know what "Catholic" means and it is is universal, one Church united through Christ and Eucharistic Union.
Stop spewing your frustration and insecurities at us.

Kek

Funny you should mention that

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This is not the time for bickering between Orthodox and Catholics. Let's stay focused on our mutual hatred for homosexual predators who sully Christ's name.

I posted a brief statement on CNA just a few hours ago from Monsignor Lantheaume, but these additional posts from him on Facebook just now were referenced on CM. It's quite a bit more aggressive than his CNA statement! I'm sort of hoping these are figures of speech but since Vigano did mention "prematurely deceased" in his statement rather curiously, I'm not entirely sure it is.

On Facebook, however, he went into greater detail, asserting, "[The testimony] says the whole truth. I am a witness. The nuncio Viganò is the most honest Prelate that I know in the Vatican."

He cautions, "These may be the last lines I write… if I am found chopped up by a chainsaw and my body sunk in concrete, the police and the hacks will say that we have to consider the hypothesis of suicide!!!"

churchmilitant.com/news/article/vatican-ambassador-vigano-said-the-truth

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Bishop Barron has made a Q&A about the sex abuse scandal. Unfortunately not talking about the pope.

It would be suicide to do it and disrespectful even if the Pope did shit to denounce him like that. If he wanted to talk about the Pope he should do like the other Bishop who said the truth.

He did dance around the "homosexuality vs clericalism" line. He's being internally political on that end, and he could be firmer there with less issue. Also having the Vatican investigate itself is a bizarre solution to the problem. Even if they did appoint laity, they'd only need to pick the ones who defend officialdom no matter what to achieve a positive result. Already you see in comment sections on these news sites a sizable minority of them attacking anyone who even vaguely supports the nuncio screaming about how nothing's wrong and how they don't want the "right wing" to take over!

Guess Francis intends to ride it out. Could be another, what, 6 years?

These people only care about increasing their sexual opportunities and living in comfort. Even if next time a Pope goes to Ireland there are only 13000 Catholics to greet him, as long as they get to sodomize each other in their lavish appartments and rectories, nothing will change.

Is this Archbishop Vigano some fringe Alex Jones tier shit stirrer or is he actually listened to and respected?

The one thing I detest the most is when people define theological positions by "left" and "right".

He was papal nuncio for the United States. Basically, the closest kind of comparable secular role is that he was an ambassador. To pretty much one of the most prominent nation-states on this planet. This is not a minor figure who has a hot mouth, and you can see he's not being treated as one, with bishops and cardinals fighting against each other over this.

If you're interested in some alex jones conspiracy type stuff, look up Bishop Richard Williamson

VIGANO FIRES BACK

lifesitenews.com/news/vigano-issues-new-statement-documents-to-clear-his-name-of-false-charges

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They'll start decrieing this as an Alt-Right conspiracy next. They're very predictable.

This. If you'd stop typing filth than it wouldn't be a problem.

Lifesite is also further backing up the report that Benedict XVI made private statement's to the Register on Vigano's section of the charges, that involve his placing Theodore McCarrick on ice, is accurate.
lifesitenews.com/news/pope-benedict-confirms-he-disciplined-mccarrick-sources-claim

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I might actually end up joining your Church, Georgian bro. Having to share religion with Russians is actually what puts me off the most.

Each of the local Orthodox Churches has her own unimportant national specifics. If you don't like this, then I'd suggest that you choose Antioch. Antioch also has its own specifics, but they are pretty much comparable with the national specifics of the Apostles who brought the Christianity to the pagan world. The ancient Jews and the modern Christian Arabs have similar customs.

Besides, Antioch is as much a Petrine chair, as Rome is. And the fact that this small and suppressed in her homeland Church projects her spiritual power all over the world and acquires more converts than any other means that she has the blessing of Christ.

Even leftist are starting to throw Francis under the bus: dw.com/en/opinion-pope-francis-and-the-catholic-churchs-moral-bankruptcy/a-45248278

It's fun though to see leftists talking about morals.

Then can we have our own specific one that is based in Rome and we call our Primarch the Pope and it will be essentially just like the Orthodox but Latin and a more of a global thing.