According to a research published by the World Bank, unlike Catholicism and Protenstantism who promote individualism thus making the transition to Capitalism easier, Orthodoxy has a more communal mentality which is why Orthodox countries were taken over by communism.
They also say that Orthodox people are more unhappy than Catholics and Protestants.
Thoughts?
documents.worldbank.org
no the bolshevik revolution was fundamentally turko-mongolian false religion in nature, but the fascist analogue at the time to foment the conflict were the roman catholics.
Communism was invented in the West, and only took root in Russia to the extent that they tried to westernize themselves, a process which began with Peter "the Great", a known westernphile.
communism was an atheistic-jewish, upper-class invention. it was mostly forced upon people via violence and propaganda. The Orthodox church suffered immensely under marxism. The ideology pretended to be capitalism for the poor, a form of vengeance for the proles, in fact it just starved them to death or sent them to gulags, while a new elite of atheist-jews-bolsheviks formed.
yeah and what did the church DO about it?
did they just tell their people to pray about it?
faith without works is DEAD.
Most of the clergy reacted toward the Russian Revolution with open hostility. During the Civil War, many representatives of the Russian orthodox clergy collaborated or had sympathies with the White Armies and foreign invading armies, hoping for a restoration of the prerevolutionary regime.[38] The church had expressed its support to General Kornilov's counter-revolutionary coup attempt. The church adopted the Enactment on Legal Status of the Church in Russia which tried to vindicate the rights that the church had enjoyed for centuries under the old regime. The Orthodox Church, said the document, "holds the pre-eminent public and legal position in Russian state among other denominations".[31] Tikhon anathematised the Soviet government and called on believers to fight against it and its decrees. The church leadership openly urged fighting against Soviet Government in its appeal entitled "To the Orthodox People". "It is better to shed one's blood and to be awarded martyr's crown than to let the enemies desecrate Orthodox faith," said the Appeal.[31]
The church's opposition to the Soviet Government was part of a general counter-revolutionary movement
>The (((World Bank)))
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Here are some interesting highlights.
Of course the whole piece is heavily biased but it's usefull to know what one of the most anti-Christian institutions in the world thinks about theological issues.
Stopped reading there. You may argue that Russians did not stop the revolution. The church opposed it, they supported white army. The white army did not succeed though…you might spin that and blame it on Orthodoxy but I do not think it would be fair.
You should study the matter more before making such claims. Communism is anti-christian you would know
Your understanding of communism and its origins screams “brainlet”.
Praying is a work.
why do communists hate Christ, the bible and everything moral and good in life?
Not all, there are Christian Communists on Zig Forums but i don't know how they mix a liberation philosophy with social conservationism.
no there aren't, those are LARPers, neither communist nor christian.
Romans and Romaics are to blame for Islam.
You can be a religious collectivist like the Kurds.
Kurds are fags who are trying to destroy Christianity in their regions.
premier.org.uk
asianews.it
t. turcoshit poster
Meanwhile Islamists and their backers have actually done so.
Dumb.
All the ones who weren't LARPers or actually had a denomination were banned I think.
CHRIST-DEMCON GANG I would've used the Syriacs as a better example seeing as they're Christian
Again that says nothing about the personal religiousity of the Kurds.
Actually the Syriac Union Party was the one who closed the schools. It's an internal division between pro-regime and pro-SDF Assyrians in the region, same thing that split the Sutoro and Sootoro. The ebil kurds weren't even involved.
It was kurds, read your propaganda sources better dumb commie shills.
kurds are faggot socialists and muslims are heretics. get lost.
So are anti-Putinists and NATO military industrial complexes
Sutoro closed the schools, not the YPG. The PYD didn't even have anything to do with the closings, it was the SUP. The private schools wanted more mandatory Arabic courses along the former Ba'ath lines and the SUP flipped because they feared it would phase out all the work they had done for the Syriac language. It was a dumbass decision by the local administration, yes, but purely one done out of Assyrian politics. Pic very much related.
Wildly off topic, sorry OP.
Middle Eastern politics seems inherently dysfunctional even in the best of times.
He's 100% right though
This is true. I had some debates on Zig Forums and a bunch of them repeat the same defense "revolutionary violence is moral when we do it, immoral when they do it"
and regarding seizing the means of production, why should one class own it rather than another? "because it's moral when we control it, immoral when the other class controls it"
it literally is capitalism for the proles, specially since they all end up forming a state and using money and never figuring out how to get rid of either of these things.
Leftism in general is LARPing Sainthood. I proclaim my self a saint and thus i can do whatever the fck i want, since my sainthood guarantees that whatever i do is for the good of humanity and "progress". If you disagree with me, you are an enemy of my sainthood and whatever is good in this world so i have the right to kill you. That's how their minds work. Neonazis and fascists at least play the hollywood bad guy, for their own reasons, but at least they are more honest.
I'm not orthodox but this is the typical boomer protestant argument who thinks Christianity lead to democracy and capitalism when democracy and capitalism are corrupting the people and destroying christianity.
And Communism was created by western JEWS. Crazy how they link it to Orthodoxy but not to the greatest ally.
Go home Calvin
Why bump an old thread with a pointless comment?
>(((World Bank)))
Interesting. But the Catholic emphasis on rationality leads to things like Natural Law and Thomism. Causing secularism would be more like a side effect.
Rationalism and secularism are the results of Renaissance rediscovery of Platonism and Hermeticism. Renaissance Humanism, with its naturalism, is the ancestor of Enlightenment rationalism and was strongly anti-scholastic.
You must realize, contrarily to a common orthodox theory, that Thomism is not the cause of the modern west.
There were strong political and social causes that led to the "paganised christianity" of Renaissance philosophy. First among them the decline of universal authorities (the emperor was powerless and the Pope was corrupt and discredited), the rise of national monarchies who wanted absolute power in their own territory, the decline of nobility and the rise of the urban merchant class.
What I mean is that a theology or a philosophy do not simply spread on its own.
Like St.Thomas said this, then Ockham said this, then Decartes, and then you have modern rationalism who is agnostic. It's not how it works.
A philosophy spread because the people of a certain age wants to hear that.
Renaissance started in Florence, a city ruled by the Medici bankers, philosophers like Marsilio Ficino, who started the platonic revival, were directly financed by the Medici.
Same goes for natural law and absolutist theories, they didn't spread because it was a natural consequence of thomism: they did partly because it was the common thought of that era, partly because powerful people wanted to support them.
Orthodox church prays for the ruler of the land (and also possess their portrait) and for the good of the land they are in as a norm since antiquity no matter who they were, friend or foe as Jesus have taught. Even if that was not the case, having a portrait of Stalin (current ruler of land) =/= responsible for whole doctrine of communism and its destruction.
Nice try, satan.
When there is an evil rulers who wants to destroy the Church, Christians are legally allowed to resist to his rule, disobey and even take up arms against him
And that's what they did if you read a tiny bit of history. Or bothered to read this thread
The church's opposition to the Soviet Government was part of a general counter-revolutionary movement
Thus the about millions of martyrs who died for their faith despite the communists pressures and threats. Some caved in because they are afraid of death either of themselves for their family, some were not. The point is that the Orthodox Church did not stood for or were the cause of communism like (((they))) said.
>(((Beridsky)))
>(((Bloomberg)))
Dear Lord, please remind the money changers.
anyone who has read about the Soviet Union for longer than 5 seconds would know that the Soviets were EXTREMELY anti-religious. they burned down churches and seized them as property.
this is the equivalent of saying Catholicism is the reason the nazis came into power
This is one of the most idiotic things I’ve ever read…the Orthodox and Catholic Churches were robbed, beaten and dragged through the mud under Stalin’s regime and later until the fall of Communism…that is why Orthos and Cats from those Countries are so very often way more traditionalist and wary of ideologies: they experienced first hand the madness of man’s hubris when it comes to create “Heaven on Earth” and other lies of modern spawns of Hegelian philosophies.
Why do Protestant countries always become prosperity gospel oil addicts?
Why are Catholic countries always lazy?
Why are Orthodox countries geopolitical survivors?
But I thought Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, western Ukraine, Hungary, eastern Austria, Slovenia and Croatia were Catholic.
Your post is as retarded as OP.