Good! Obamacare Ruled Unconstitutional, Struck Down As Invalid

Obamacare has been ruled unconstitutional by a US District Court in Texas and will be formally scrapped.

Commenting on the decision of the court to invalidate the Affordable Care Act, President Trump urged legislators to change the law immediately.

Wow, but not surprisingly, ObamaCare was just ruled UNCONSTITUTIONAL by a highly respected judge in Texas. Great news for America!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 15, 2018

Earlier on Friday, US District Court Judge Reed O’Connor ruled that the reform must be axed because Congress cancelled its key provision — the tax penalty for not complying with the requirement to buy insurance

The decision was part of a case made by 20 plaintiff states who sought to recognise the Affordable Care Act as invalid.

As I predicted all along, Obamacare has been struck down as an UNCONSTITUTIONAL disaster! Now Congress must pass a STRONG law that provides GREAT healthcare and protects pre-existing conditions. Mitch and Nancy, get it done!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 15, 2018

The ruling is supposed to be appealed in the coming days. However, the ruling was made less than 24 hours before the end of the regular insurance purchase period for the year ending on December 15.

Thus, it will be difficult for consumers to determine whether they should buy insurance if they have not already done so, and how the cost of medical care will change if the court’s decision remains in force.

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I highly doubt this has been reported here yet.

This is a great thing, especially since no replacement is necessary. Bye bye, climate change!

Has nothing to do with "climate change" it has to do with the unconstitutional Obamacare legislation that was forcing people to purchase ridiculously high priced shitty insurance coverage.

Less people = less climate change, idiot fuck.


I’m not going to respond to this, boomer.

medicare for all is better anyways

OK, so you are claiming there really were "death panels" then? What exactly are you trying to say?

You're hopeless. Forget it.

The Constitution is still the de-facto LAW of the land here, however it is up to the courts to decide what is, and what is not, considered Constitutional.

Oh, that's so nice of you to say. So do you endorse the Living Document style of interpretation or an Originalist mode? How do you reconcile the expense of monopolistic allopathic modern medicine with an Originalist interpretation?

If your trying to insinuate people not having costly and shitty health insurance policies is somehow going to lead to more death, that is not actually true. Not everyone actually needs health insurance coverage or uses it. In some cases people are better off without it because they simply take care of their health via healthy diets and exercise, and staying away from unhealthy habits. More people tend to die relying on the pharmaceutical industry than people outside of it who are pro-active about being fit and healthy and independent.

Ok, this is the height of libertarian idiocy. While you're at it, perhaps you should endorse Eugenics.

I don't endorse Eugenics. But thats not the point, I take care of myself and eat certified organic foods. I get my meat fresh WITHOUT nitrites or hormones or other toxic preservatives. I avoid junk foods/fast foods and sugar-ridden beverages. I take quality vitamins and a couple healthy supplements like curcumin. I exercise. Guess what? I haven't gotten sick in a long time, I'm not on any meds, I haven't been to the hospital for a very long time. Rarely need to go to the doctor, only for a basic checkup every couple years. Don't get dental cavities either. Whats my secret? I don't freaking rely on the medical system to take care of me! I take care of myself! And I'm doing a damn good job of it too.

Well, hey, if it works for you it will work for everybody. You're doing fine, so that shows no one needs access to Rockefeller allopathic medicine. I concede my argument, goddamned tunnel-visioned moron.

Too many people think being an exception invalidates the rule. But what of industrial pollution, of adulterated foods, or diethylstilbestrol in the meat, only to name three? What of the toxic soup of civilization, or the Columbia and Arabic exchanges? Of evolving germs and automobile accidents, collateral damage in war, of your child ripping one of his testicles off on a swing set?

Such people are saying if their grandmother, on a fixed income, gets an infection that would respond well to a modern antibiotic, because it is held captive behind a physician's paywall she should put some herbs on it, maybe struggle with it for a few months while it makes its way throughout her system, and then finally die because her immune system couldn't shake it. Sorry, that stuff is only for the rich, as is grass fed meat and fresh, abundant vegetation, dietary supplements, and the like.

Never, ever, consider how connected we are, like it or not. You got yours, and it's all because you "earned it." No luck was involved, and you worked so much harder than every slave, everyone with a scarlet letter of some form or another. You're simply exceptional, and this world would be so much better if everyone would but follow your sage advice.

I can only tell you what worked for me. I can't tell you what works for other people because that would be dishonest. My suggestion would be to try to not rely on the corrupted medical industry as much, and take actions into your own hands. Research the alternatives, maybe even try some and give them a chance and see if they help. Try to eat better, because that does count a lot. Diet matters. Exercise matters. Getting enough sunlight matters too. Cut back on unhealthy habits like drugs, smoking and/or drinking. That can help too.

My suggestion would be to look at the state of things as they are, not as you would prefer them to be. You do not represent everyone, and your advice is pedantic.

What you recommend can mitigate the long term consequences of the type of civilization we live in. But it does nothing for people who find themselves in a state of emergency here and now. For that, a catastrophic minimum of coverage is in order. That is simple fairness and decency, not ideology. You've chosen to side with the usurers, and that is your prerogative. But I find it argumentatively indefensible and morally wrong.

I would ask what good is a civilization that will not care for its sick or educate its young, but that goes above and beyond the level you're at.

I believe families should take care of one another again, like they used to way back in the day, you were not likely born then and at the time I was born families were starting to begin their separate journeys and lives away from relatives.

By all means, do what you see fit. I'm only suggesting that this medical INDUSTRY - (thats what it has become, an industry $$$) - does not hold our interests at heart, nor should we trust them to. We should seek alternatives at this point, unless you are in some kind of predicament where you physically or financially cannot. In that case, good luck.

The last part of your post punctuates the point I've been making.

You want to recapture a bygone era. These days living with one's distant relatives isn't reminiscent of the good old days; it prophesies the US becoming so broken and strained that its young people become insects like the Chinese.

There is no problem with medicine being an industry. What is at issue is when industry and government merge, when the head of the FDA is a titan of business, when medical technology grows and is shaped by the public purse until it resembles something that can only be maintained thereby. That is why it no longer represents the peoples' interests is made clear by regulatory limitations against the public good, not profitability necessarily.

Pardon me:

- is why

The medical establishment no longer represents the peoples' interests because of federal subsidies as well as the way those subsidies have impacted regulatory schemes and technological maturation of praxis.

I see this situation as having a great many connections pertaining to government and industry, but also the private central banking cartel that has dictated the value of the American dollar for more than a hundred years.

These are problems, I argue, that can't be solved by moving in with your parents and suturing your own finger back on when you cut it off in the garage.

Can I even buy carbolic acid without a license these days?

Correct.


Also correct. Thats my point. Everything is corrupted today and its only getting worse. As much as I hate to say this, getting prepared for the worst case scenarios may be the ONLY thing that can save us at this point. We can no longer trust society around us, or the institutions. We need to trust ourselves and learn how to become self-sufficient and independent as possible. It can be done, but its not convenient, its hard work and its no fun. What else choice do we have?

Self-sufficiency from government and self-sufficiency from nature are two different things. I think that might be why I so vehemently disagree with the concept of doing without in order to maintain a modicum of independence.

My strategy would be to liberate the intellectual property and reverse engineer these technologies in order to provide them to my fellow man. I don't see Pandora's Box being closed again, and I'm suspicious that we can or should ever go back to a state of simplicity.

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I would not recommend buying too many industrial chemicals because that might draw some unwanted attention.

I only need enough to run my own surgical theater.

I hate to say it but thats what it will likely take if we want to truly become independent. We'll have to learn how to cook over fires or by using some kind of solar-powered cooker. We'll have to learn how to assemble our own guns and tools. We'll have to learn how to fish, hunt and survive in the wilderness / homestead off-grid in the rural areas. There will become a time where you may need to completely bail from this society and live like a hillbilly who knows how to clean and suture yourself if you get an injury. It may get that bad in the near future. If it does, I'm going to live like a fucking hillbilly, till someone or something kills me off. At that point I don't think I'd have lost anything because what the hell is the purpose of life when all freedom is null and void anyway?

Right. I have seen plenty of Varg Vikernes videos in my day, but I can't stop thinking about people like Ted Kaczynski, who wrote that he was quite content in his Walden cabin only to discover one day that he was being run out by loggers who couldn't resist cultivating the natural bounty adjacent to him for dollars. Or about megacities poisoning rural groundwater, chemtrails, invasive gmo seeds blowing over onto your farm and litigious businessmen coming to shylock you, foreign human diseases invading the landscape, and all manner of baddies one cannot easily control for even in isolation. Will you have to use the currency of the country you inhabit? Varg certainly does. What about fuel? Raw materials not found on your land? Can the barbarists truly barter for everything they and their children need? I'm not so sure.

As a collapse survival strategy, this makes sense–provided it is temporary. But civilization always comes back, even when held to a minimum the way Native Americans survived from prehistory to roughly 350 years ago, where the bow and arrow was the primary hunting tool, a minimum of pottery, shell fishing tools, etc.

But then you encounter the same issue as isolationists who refuse to become empires. It's either you do it, or someone else is going to come along and conquer you.

I'm lucky I don't have another 20 years to live. I'm lucky to be one of those who at least experienced the last of the good 'ol days.

>>>/prepare/1 or at least keep one bullet, for yourself.

Even the present will seem like the good old days where we’re going.

I'll blow my fucking brains out if it gets much worse so help me God I will.

I suppose that’s better than becoming a sadistic monster whom the abyss stares through.

This, in contrast to what Holohoax jews claimed, that the Germans may get them to go along and become sonderkommandos but they would never grant their consent! Haha.

I want my fucking money back. I'm only 25, I don't have fucking disposable income and these faggots took my fucking money. Fuck.

Another reason to never vote for socialist cancer.

This.

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