A California judge has ruled that American cops can’t force people to unlock a mobile phone with their face or finger. The ruling goes further to protect people’s private lives from government searches than any before and is being hailed as a potentially landmark decision.
Previously, U.S. judges had ruled that police were allowed to force unlock devices like Apple’s iPhone with biometrics, such as fingerprints, faces or irises. That was despite the fact feds weren’t permitted to force a suspect to divulge a passcode. But according to a ruling uncovered by Forbes, all logins are equal.
The order came from the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California in the denial of a search warrant for an unspecified property in Oakland. The warrant was filed as part of an investigation into a Facebook extortion crime, in which a victim was asked to pay up or have an “embarassing” video of them publicly released. The cops had some suspects in mind and wanted to raid their property. In doing so, the feds also wanted to open up any phone on the premises via facial recognition, a fingerprint or an iris.
While the judge agreed that investigators had shown probable cause to search the property, they didn’t have the right to open all devices inside by forcing unlocks with biometric features.
On the one hand, magistrate judge Kandis Westmore ruled the request was “overbroad” as it was “neither limited to a particular person nor a particular device.”
But in a more significant part of the ruling, Judge Westmore declared that the government did not have the right, even with a warrant, to force suspects to incriminate themselves by unlocking their devices with their biological features. Previously, courts had decided biometric features, unlike passcodes, were not “testimonial.”
How about molestation, can they still do that? Or stealing shit if you don't give them passwords? Or killing and breaking stuff?
Juan Wright
What about fucking WHITE MALE alt-right neonazi drumffftards guilty of ANTI-SEMITISM?
Elijah Morris
Thats kinda Good! news but it still isn't all that great, these "smart" phones are still gathering everything you do and that data IS available for the federal government (and others with access) to rummage through.
Here's my perspective on this: lets say you are pulled over. Which would you rather have, a "smart"phone or a regular flip phone?
The "smart"phone is going to have TONS of data on you, not just caller ID logs. Its going to have fingerprints, face scans, internet history, anything you store on there which could be just about anything now days!
The flip phone? OK officer, have a look! OK: a boring caller ID log list. Thats it! Wow, I'm sooooo embarrassed! No social media, no accounts, no internet history, none of that shit!
So guess what? If I'm pulled over, I'll make them snooze by giving them my caller ID logs, which they get NOTHING much out of at all!
Nathaniel Adams
Thankfully they can make me sign into icloud dot com
Xavier Russell
I prefer a slider with a qwerty keyboard, like the LG Env3. Except for the butt dialing, this is much better when your social contacts are smart phone users.
Only if they know you have an account, and they won't if all you have is a basic flip phone!
The point I was trying to make is that the government (including police) don't have much data to steal off regular flip phones. Thats WHY they want everyone using those iPhones, because then they can know everything you are up to. Why give them that chance in the first place?
Joshua Harris
Agreed. But flips are hard to text and drive on.
Samuel Russell
It’s getting harder to buy a flip phone new. Go to a carrier and they have only one to choose from, or they’ve farmed it out entirely to prepay cards or sim plans. I live in a metro and can only find one style of tracfone in a twenty mile radius.
Jason Miller
You should not be driving and texting at the same time. In fact, its dangerous and rude. Should be against the law.
Logan King
A cop doing a routine pull over. say for speeding, failure to signal. isn't going to ask to see your phone.
License and registration
Isaac Murphy
I'm a negro
Josiah Martinez
True. But according to this report thats not all they do. And just in case having a flip phone would be much more preferable.
Thomas Campbell
Get a white phone, it's easier to distinguish it from a gun in your filthy ape paws
I knew there was a reason engineers removed the old school cigarette lighters from new cars. Now there's no quick way to sear your fingerprints off if you get pulled over.
Robert Powell
good news with courts being shut down nobody cares. open your ass wide america and say you love it
Colton Garcia
It is against the law.
Daniel Lewis
FEDERAL AGENTS DON'T NEED TO
because the federal agents have complete unfettered access to the NSA's data.
why waste time 'unlocking your home screen' and manually snooping through a phone….. when the NSA can use algorithms to automatically provide EVERY single questionable electronic communication you've made since 2005 ?
Bullshit. 'Smart'phones are total botnets for the zombie masses.
Juan Garcia
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Jayden Murphy
*gets shot*
Jaxson Hill
Not sure how this matters. It isnt like a face or fingerprint cant be duplicatex from both you submit upon being arrested.
Jaxson Miller
Thats a joke. Right? The NSA is that asshole rich kid that has all the toys but doesn't share anything.
Henry Fisher
Nigger plz.you get coddled with silk gloves by cops.
Colton Garcia
your sissyflip phone can be monitored and located just as easily as a smartphone
you're delusional……………………….
Easton Adams
CORRECTION :
the NSA offers access to the data to all other intelligence and federal agencies
they also offer access to local law enforcement jurisdictions. court systems, certain attorneys, etc etc etc
Eli Ward
In fact, if you're willing to take out 12 minutes 29 seconds of your hectic imageboard schedule, this interview with William Binney explains exactly how and why they do it…..
Keep in mind that William Binney actually wrote the software for the Thinthread NSA program (and then he quit because they were going to use his software in violation of our constitution)
He even explains PARALLEL RECONSTRUCTION
Jason Baker
Nothing on there except for basic caller ID logs. BIG DEAL. And the camera is covered up so they can't spy on me. No internet on it either, so no texts or anything like that.
If they want to break into my phone, well they'll get bored pretty fucking quickly.
David Perry
PARALLEL RECONSTRUCTION:
when a law enforcement agency uses the requested info from the NSA, (usually without a warrant) then fabricates a plausible explanation for how they obtained the info
they will create a 'fake investigation trail' nd make it appear they gleaned the information themselves.
Jose Myers
My phones are always full blast with all the bells and whistles
I actually WANT them to watch me through my cameras. That way, theyll know who the irritating asshole is with all the ELVIS & CATS on his devices.
I feel sorry for anyone who has to trudge through my data… Elvis, Cats, Elvis, Cats, Elvis, Cats
Gabriel Walker
as im sure you've noticed….. im kinda 'not shy' im pushy im intrusive im a class clown
im an upside-down performance artist
if they didnt monitor me trough my camera Id probably take videos of myself sitting around shitposting and email it to them
Jaxon Bell
Johnny, do u think any o n e 4rom
the N S A
comes here to C what we p o s t & t h i n k s w e R fucking CLOWNS?
Lincoln Brooks
Your phone is just one of many many means they build your folders of data with
theyre using EVERY electronic mode of communications
and no matter what kind of computer youre using no matter if youre on a vpn or tor IF YOURE ONLINE THEY ARE FUNNELING EVERYTHING YOU DO
Nicholas Rivera
A: thats not how they do it
they dont need to 'go anywhere' they dont need to 'come here'
every…. single…. thing…. is…. being….. funneled…. TO THEM
Carter Russell
they have successfully breached every level of encryption
Noah Garcia
however, the NSA isn't operating 'just one' monitoring program…. the NSA has hundreds of sub-level divisional programs running simultaneously.
and as far as 'coming to Zig Forums' and ALL chans?
there are other 3 Letter agencies who do that
Kayden Morales
I must be giving them a headache because I hop around A LOT of different IP addresses every day via my private VPN. I know they have access to all that, but still, I could speculate I've used over 200,000 different IPs accessing Zig Forums over the last few years.
Hunter Baker
Do you think they try to build profiles on us the best they can?
absolutely. and as william binney so clearly explains it, they not only categorize us all individually, but they also have us grouped into clusters, connected by our communications with eachother, our contacts, by phone fax email website whatever, a social network, like a spider web, each link quantified by how frequently and how recently we communicated with eachother
people like us?……….
lol of course we make a habit of 'standing out'
and admit it…….. we ARE crazy….. at least i am
Brody Evans
as i look out across the vast horizon and i witness the masses
i am suddenly reminded………..
if THOSE people are 'sane', then im proud to be insane
Christian Gray
Killcen ?……
if there was any advice or words of wisdom i could ever give you…… it would be…..
relax…. you're going to be okay yes, things are bad….. but smile for us, sir inspire us to smile too
we are ALL going to be alright
Jacob Campbell
How everyone learned how to text under the desk. Every letter is a number clicks and right on the pad then takrs you away from options of what letter your clicking for. Its literally easier then qwerty screenboard because it has the ridges of a actual keyboard. Ya know f and j
Ryder Price
if you or i know a technique…..
42,000 advanced NSA programmers and computer engineers dealt with it a long long time ago
Leo Ross
if you turn on a garden hose for the water to spray out the nozzle it must first be funneled through the hose
same with internet traffic same with fax machines same with phones (smartphones, flip phones, landlines, payphones) same with satellites
ANY electronic communication
they use a splitter on the 'hose' that diverts the 'water' and they funnel every 'drop' EVERYTHING into their own 'bathtub'
so while you 'water your lawn' for every drop that lands on your grass an identical drop waters the NSA's lawn too
Carter Sanders
I have bad thoughts.
John James
BUT THERE IS GOOD NEWS INDEED !!
life is beautiful skies are gorgeous billowing clouds children are laughing birds are chirping lovers are kissing the stars are mesmerizing the moon is entrancing music is enchanting people still help eachother animals still roam waves still crash passions still exist
whoever your god is you are a child of the universe and youre a good man
we are surrounded by darkness and evil
but we are stronger than that because we love our children and our determination to do the right thing is the light that shatters the darkness
Tyler Harris
we all do……
its a good thing it means you exist
when you have none that will mean that youre dead so enjoy it
Adrian Wilson
i used to be overwhelmed by myself by my perceptions
until i finally realized that i was the problem, that the worrisome external events and factors that concerned me would always exist, or continually evolve into even more troublesome world events, and i was never going to be able to change them, i would never be able to control the uncontrollable
and my REAL problem was that i have a habit of always overthinking everything
Ryan Carter
so i finally gave myself the permission to simplify things, to let go and relax and a funny thing happened:
i became much much MUCH happier
Tyler Sullivan
i learned to lighten up
and give myself a break from myself
Nathan Clark
because i finally realized that my worrisome personality was not fun to be around
Owen Harris
so now im not worried about the future
im too busy enjoying RIGHT NOW
Landon Reed
these are strange, strange times
but only if you acknowledge it and the more you focus on it the more overwhelming it gets and soon, you can't enjoy the sunset because you've become so obsessed with the possibility of an eventual thunderstorm
time is fleeting and youll never get it back and although we are very intelligent, as humans we are capable of behaving like idiots and wasting precious moments that could be spent smiling in the splendor of the sunset instead of worrying about rainfall that has yet to occur…………….
That was the joke. That flips aren't going to catch on in the majority since they tend to be the kind of retards that text and drive, and will go for short term convenience and Kikebook access over something more reasonable.
Thomas Robinson
I'm joking. It's a line from that show Alaska Troopers. One of the inuits was all strung out on drugs and freezing to death in the cold. So he tells the blue meanies "I have bad thoughts" and they take him someplace warm. Suicidal ideation is a meal ticket, man.
