TOLD YA! Facebook Has Backdoors In ALL Smartphone Apps, And They Are Stealing ALL User Info

Plus, anybody can easily root their phone

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By rooting your phone, you can modify it any way you'd like

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dont understand the concept of a "back door" do you user??

There's nothing anonymous about him. He has no interest in being anonymous, because he's a massive attention whore. He's likely salivating at the thought that I might type his name.

I used to INSTANTLY root all of my devices immediately after purchasing them. I'd modify the devices, uninstalling all of the apps that 'couldn't be uninstalled', etc.

I don't even bother with that nonsense anymore.

because I AM NOT WORRIED OR AFRAID about somebody knowing that I like Elvis & Cats & Techno Music

why would I need to beg for something that I already have in such great abundance?

I know exactly what a back door is….

And that's really not the subject here. This thread is about an agreement between Facebook and third-party apps, which is not technically a real back door….

And 'back doors' aren't really what's important anymore…. The NSA doesn't rely on back doors.

They funnel everything at the source, directly from your ISP as it's being routed out.

If you want to know the technical logistics, drawbacks and benefits of the 'horseless carriage', you should probably ask somebody who has actually owned a car before.

OK, so its not a backdoor, but it IS spyware. That is the very definition of spyware, something that is hidden inside your computer that monitors all the activity and sends it to a third party.

GUESS WHAT? 10+ years ago spyware was considered BAD NOT "GOOD"

If you walk down the street, anybody who wants to can take your photograph.

And if you use a service provider to 'walk through the internet', every step you take is open to inspection, because you don't own that service provider, and you have absolutely no promise of privacy.

If you want your right to privacy, feel free to create your own goddamn internet.

We're not talking about NSA, however if you think about it Big Tech does give them more data to suck off of, thats for sure.

I'm sorry if the world isn't the way you want it to be. I am sorry that technology has aspects which you are not happy with.

I am sorry if society has changed.

It sounds like you would be happiest if you develop your own internet and created your own society.

That way, you could live in your own little Utopia

Facebook and Google ARE the NSA

of course they are

and I can live with that

For those with tech skills doing that, BRAVO!

Old farts like me wouldn't know how to do that shit. It took me a friend's son to teach me how to repartition my HD and install linux!! Luckily I learned some about OPSEC too, from others over time.

Never in my life have I touched a "smartphone."

Pretty much. They are heavily subsidized by the government. OH, and when I posted a report from Wired about that, the fucking BO here kept anchoring it!!! Wonder WHY!?

Oh, did you guys here that the US military has gotten so fucking cucked, they now rely on Microsoft to program for them!!??

HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!

And they think they can wage war against the ebil Russians, when Russia have some of the most sophisticated electronic/EM jamming equipment on the planet?

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!

I don't have my Facebook app enabled. The actual Facebook APP that came installed on my phone is disabled, and if it was sending out any hidden processes or activities, I would know it instantly.

I hate Facebook….

I don't 'do' Facebook…….

but occasionally, I WILL use Facebook, specifically under an irrelevant dummy account, accessing it the internet rather than through an installed app, and I only use it to search for particular people I might see in the news, just to look at their profile.

Here's an example: if I see that somebody has been arrested locally, and their name seems kind of familiar to me, I have a dummy Facebook account I can open in the internet, and I will enter that person's name so I can see their photograph and determine whether I know them or not….

and that's it…..

I have no friends list, and I have no desire or interest in participating in the Facebook culture.

I realize that Facebook has an agreement with lots of other third-party apps, and I really don't care…
In fact, I couldn't possibly care any less.

I realize that when I take a walk around my neighborhood, there's a possibility that every single neighbor might be looking out their window and see me walking past their house….

They would know what I was wearing and what time I decided to take a walk. They would know which direction I was walking and how fast I was going. they would know if I was alone or if Wendy was walking with me.

it's highly unlikely that every single neighbor in my neighborhood would be looking out their window at that moment, but I would be stupid to assume that I could walk down to street without people seeing me….

I don't give a fuck……

Because I'm not afraid of living

You don't have to be "afraid" of someone to tell them to get the fuck out of your home and stop eating what you have stored in your refrigerator.

This is how I view Big Tech companies. Intruders! I don't allow them into my home!

It doesn't take a genius programmer to go into settings and disable certain permissions or activities.

When you are on the internet, it's not YOUR refrigerator….

the ISP owns the refrigerator, and you are RENTING storage space.

Ah, righhhhht. Like you can "disable" Google's tracking right?

ciiradio.com/2017/11/23/google-secretly-tracks-you-even-if-you-actively-disable-location/

It's really not that complicated…..

All you need to do is develop your own internet, and lay billions of miles of your own internet and cable around the world.

Then install hundreds of millions of your own servers all around the planet.

Once you're finished with that simple task, you will have your own internet, and if anybody surreptitiously accesses your activity, then you'll have something to complain about…..

You don't have a constitutional right to privacy on the internet…

I never said anything about being able to permanently disable GPS location from Google's access.

The ONLY kind of Operating Systems that are safe are the older ones WITHOUT any of this crap installed by default in the first place.

I simply use a VPN and spoof a shit load of metadata using a few privacy add-ons. Noscript security suite (re-configured for total paranoia). Learned how to tweak about:config, get rid of CRAP like listed urls, webGL and webRTC (among a few other things). Have something that sends random spoofed GET requests to confuse the shit out of any servers I access. Routinely wipe my sqlite cache/cookie files, and hop VPN IPs….

If anyone is still tracking me, I'm giving them a pain in the rear!

NEWS FLASH:

If you think Google's GPS on Android is the beginning and ending of that topic, you're mistaken….

Because no matter WHAT you think, no matter WHAT you've read, no matter WHAT you've been told…. no matter WHAT techniques you use, VPNs, proxies, encryption, Tor, etc etc etc they can still track everything you do on your computer, and source it directly back to your physical location…

I realize that you put a lot of time, worry & effort into 'hiding', but you are fooling yourself if you think they can't tell exactly where you are, and keep a log of every single activity you do on your computer.

I'm not being an asshole… I'm not arguing with you

I'm just being honest with you so don't be offended… No need to feel defensive when I say:

right now there are 11 year old kids out there who can code circles around you….

Right now there are 12 year old kids out there who are developing their own strings of code

Right now there are 13 year old children out there who are developing new forms of encryption

Right now there are 14 year old boys out there who know SO MUCH about technology, that it would make your eyes cross

………….and right now, there are TENS OF THOUSANDS of extremely gifted adult programmers and cyber security specialists who work for the NSA, and they've already thought of EVERYTHING you could possibly think of, plus much much much much more….

Then they can suck off my spoofed crap and read my rants then, that is, when I plug in my modem to go online.

That must be real fun.

Why are there so many smart kids working for evil? Its a damn shame to see.

The founders of our internet would not be very satisfied today with the newer generations.

What the fuck do you care ?
If there was no internet you'd stand on a street corner screaming at people.

indoctrination, limited options of behavior, feeling a need to make lots of money and spend lots of money to feel succesful.

No, I'd just have to find more DIY hobbies. And think about more prepping projects, thats all. And I'd have to find other ways to vent my rage, likely drinking more.

In a way, I'm glad they're doing it.

After all, it's just one of the logistical capabilities of the technology, and if THEY weren't doing it, somebody else would.

There's nothing that you or I can do to stop it.

and I'm quite sure that if you asked THEM, they'd explain that they were doing it to keep the world safe

hahaha that was funny

the funniest part is that
I would probably be doing
the exact same thing

back in the 'good old days', the Publishers Clearing House did the exact same thing, keeping 'files' on people's interests, and targeting specific advertising at them, based upon the things that interested them….

that way, someone like you or I would get offers for subscriptions to popular science or popular mechanics, instead of women's fashion magazines…..

It's called capitalism…..

No, they're fucking the internet up and making it a SHITHOLE (spook-infested) is what they are doing. I avoid most sites because they are shit quality today. I'm pretty much on the internet for TWO REASONS: image boards and P2P/BT networks, and for ripping videos off Youtube from time to time lol.

Oh, I threw away all the junk mail. Only thing I subscribed to in my lifetime was NRA magazines and the old American Survival Magazine.

That, and for a while I used to get an old Sears catalog long ago sent to my home. I'd look through those once and a while.

You must have misinterpreted my post as being a direct comment about YOU and YOUR LIFE

it wasn't

I was giving an analogy

Yah, OK. Just saying you are likely correct about that.

My point was really simple…..

It's called MARKETING and it's been done since the beginning of business, in one form or another

and it's not necessarily a bad thing

And by the way ….. THAT WAS CAPITALISM! Because it wasn't government spooks all up in your mailbox peeking through your windows!!

Like I said, I don't own the internet, and I don't get to control what happens on it.

It was developed by the United States Navy, and the last time I checked, the Navy is a branch of the United States department of defense.

I don't own my own internet service provider, so I actually have to RENT ACCESS TO IT.

That's why I have no unrealistic expectation of the right to privacy.

And I can live with that.
I'm well aware that every search I make is being funneled through THEIR valves. I accepted that a long time ago, and I am well aware that if I did a search for a veterinarian, trying to find prices for office visits regarding a stray cat we just rescued, my search is not going to be private, and the United States department of defense will have records of my search….

I doubt they will find much use with my search for a reasonably priced veterinarian in my area.

But there are third parties, advertisers, and THEY will indeed find a use for my veterinarian search.

I realize that my binary fingerprint will be cross associated with advertising related to cats and veterinarians…..

I realize that I can reasonably expect to see advertising pop up here and there for CHEWY.COM

And I don't have any problem with that.
CHEWY.COM has some really good prices on cat food and veterinary medication, and they delivered right to my door.

It's actually kind of cool. I'm very open to this convenience.

I'm not really worried about anything.

If I was doing internet searches for guns or plans to build explosives or trying to purchase illegal drugs or trying to learn ways of 'killing my wife without getting caught', THAT'S where the government gets involved, and if I was stupid enough to do searches like that, I would deserve everything I had coming to me afterwards.

I know there's a stupid mindset that says "I don't have anything to hide", but in many ways that's very true….

For me, it's not really a matter of 'having nothing to hide' as much as it's a matter of me not being stupid enough to think I have a right to 'privacy' while I am using a service I don't own

But if you sent a letter to a known subversive organization, and requested an illegal package, and they sent you a package in the mail, YOU WOULD CERTAINLY HAVE HAD THE FBI SNOOPING IN YOUR MAIL.

Well thats likely true. Back then they still needed to get warrants though, and surveillance was not automated like it is today, they had to dedicate time and human resources.

Now days its all automated, built-in by default and packaged in whether you like it or not (no warrant needed).

The entire concept of 'getting a warrant' is overvalued. It was never quite as hard as one might think. I've actually seen local police departments get a warrant to enter a house in as little as 15 minutes….

Not joking.

About 25 years ago I was at a friend's house when the police knocked at the door. They said a neighbor called and reported that they thought we were smoking pot out in the backyard. (we were)

They wanted to search the house and we all told them "no". The police said they were seizing the house and no one was allowed to go in until they got a warrant, and about 10 or 15 minutes later they had a local judge sign a warrant, and they went into the house and searched it.

(when it was all said and done, the only thing they found in the house was an empty cigar box, with three pot seeds in it, because we had smoked all of the weed, and all that was left was three fucking seeds)

They still charged my friend with possession.

A warrant isn't as big of a deal as we would think.
And while technically speaking, a warrant is still required, that doesn't stop them from funneling everything we do through their 'split valves', and they collect and store every single motherfuking thing everybody does on the internet….

They are not actively watching and examining everything we do because there's really no way to manage such volume on a real-time basis.

BUT ?……. In a situation like the recent Jussie Smollett case, where he filed a false report claiming he had been attacked by two white guys with maga hats, he put himself on the radar, and it was really in just as simple as retrieving GPS coordinates and internet activities to isolate a group of people who were in the area at the time, and then they refined their search, and found the two guys based on Uber transactions, etc.

And that's a good thing

If you or I put ourselves on the radar

they will pull our files, and examine us closely

thank 'god'* neither of us is a terrorist

*there's no such thing as 'god'

RE: third party apps with your 'metadata'

who cares?

Me. Thats why I won't use this shit. If I wanted Facebook to have my info, I'd be using their service.

hint: I don't give a flying fuck if they know what zip code I'm in, that I love my children, that my mother is cool as shit, that I'm on Zig Forums a lot, that I enjoy irritating people, that I use PicsArt to fuck with images that I find on Google Image Search, that I listen to the Beatles, music from the 80s, classical symphonic music & DEVO, that I'm interested in science and technology, that I like photography, I enjoy video editing, I'm fascinated by animals, and that I love my wife, even though I poke a lot of fun at her……

In fact, I'm quite proud of my life

good for you

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You are one who would actually like mainstream social media it seems then, because thats typically how normies think….

BUT I'M STILL GLAD YOU ARE HERE INSTEAD!

hmm, a device that does not let you turn it off, and broadcasts data. back in they this would be called a bug.

lol @ doesn't let you turn it off.

hahahaha

If only you could find a female that wouldn't let you turn her off……..

I'm willing to guess that's a much bigger problem for you than technology

Its more than a bug, because a bug would just be a mic to eavesdrop. This has cameras and collects SOOOOO much more than just audio/video surrounds. And when you move around with it, you are tracked. And if you use it, everything is being monitored on it. Its beyond a "bug" its a mini botnet computer device.

i think the main issue is that the apps are using privilege escalation techniques to attack the platform they are running on, so changing setting in the UI will not make any difference as it is just window dressing. OP is obviously not very tech savvy and has not articulated the actual problem correctly.

Nope…..

there's a difference between simply
accepting reality, and realizing I can't
change the world and 'being a social
media douchebag'…….

I have no interest in social media, unless I'm
using it to troll or frustrate people.

CONGRATULATIONS !!!!!
it took you THIS LONG to figure that out?

of course that's what it is…. DUHHHH

I wish I could dig up all the articles I have read. TRUST ME. "Off" does not really mean "OFF" anymore. They have tiny batteries imbedded in the circuits now and hackers/spooks CAN get in if need be.

jesus dude, you dont realise smartphones transmit while they're off?? im not making this shit up!

nobody suggested that changing the 'user
interface' would prevent any permissions or
activities.

but it IS indeed easy as shit to see any apps that
are running background processes, and you CAN
easily turn those activities off

I was going to clarify that I wasn't necessarily talking about physically powering down the device, but in fact, I was also speaking metaphorically when I used the word OFF

(The only thing your phone is transmitting when it's powered down is the GPS)

trust me…….

GPS is the only thing that can be accessed when the phone is powered down, but if you remove the battery, at that point even the GPS cannot be accessed

A: ONLY AN IDIOT

Q: who doesn't already realize that the smartphone was a clever invention to make people THINK they WANTED a passive monitoring system in their possession?

A: ONLY A FUCKING DUMBASS

Q: who is unaware that smartphones have microphones, cameras, GPS, facial recognition, fingerprint scanners, and all of these things are used to identify the user, and monitor their location and actions, while their phone calls, text messages, and internet searches are already being collected?

Older Windows operating systems had a tool called Process Explorer that was very good at managing what processes could be run or suspended. Later on they removed the ability for users to manage what was running in the background unless they had root access. Later on they completely hid nefarious third party crap within the subprocesses of other basic processes so it wouldn't be nearly as easy to control them. Same thing with modifying the system's registry as well.

This is why I decided to say Fuck Windows completely and switched to using Linux. Will never go back either.

T H I S I S N O T N E W S

Yes, it IS news.

once you have successfully attacked the platform, you can make the phone output any information you like to the screen. what this means is anything that you see on the screen whether its terminal output or the graphical UI overlay does not necessarily correspond to what is going on inside the device. Outside of a lab it is nigh on impossible to know exactly whats going on inside such a comped device, because it will fail to output anything that reveals what has happened.

the reason this is news is because advertisers now, for whatever reason, have access to info only nation states used to have access to.

I don't know how many times I have to keep using this same analogy, but HERE GOES:

Back in the 'good old days' (they weren't really all that good) telephone numbers only had five digits

like BR549

And you didn't dial people directly. Just like on Mayberry RFD, where Andy Griffith wood pick up the phone and the local Mayberry operator 'Sarah' would already be on the line, you would ask her to please call 'Joe', or perhaps name off the 5 digits…

"Hey Sarah, how are you today?… aww that's nice… Be sure to tell your mother I said hello. Could you please ring BR549 for me?"

and Sarah would literally plug a wire into a port, and connect your call…..

AND 'SARAH' WOULD VERY OFTEN LISTEN IN ON YOUR PHONE CALLS… at least she had the ability to listen in, and everybody knew it. It was simply accepted. You could never be sure if she was listening in on your phone call or somebody else's, being nosy and learning gossip, but it was just an accepted fact….

That's just the way it was…. And everybody knew it….

With every new advent in technology, with each new modern change and development, there has always been a similar 'give and take'….

I'm sure you remember back when we all used to think you could 'tell when your phone was being tapped because you would hear a clicking noise on the line'?….

Guess what?…. It turns out that wasn't true…

That was just a stupid misconception… They could always tap your line, and it wouldn't make any clicking noise because your call had to be routed through a system, just like Sarah would route your call through her system, and during that transfer process, your calls could be intercepted without you hearing any clicking noises….

Why are you so surprised that smartphone technology has modified and improved this exact same process?

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Those days were the real old days, I think they got rid of switchboard operators when I was very young.

Trust me I understand exactly what you're saying… Of course I understand… To some degree what you are saying is true, while to some degree it's not ….

If you root your phone you can replace the mod end be in complete control of all activity and hidden processes…

But the real question is much more simple… The real question is: WHY WOULD ANYONE BE SO PARANOID ?

Maybe Andy Griffith should have been paranoid and freaked out about Sarah listening in to his phone calls ?

Maybe he should have murdered Aunt Bee and Opie, burned his house down, gone into Mayberry and murdered Sarah, and dug a 20-foot hole in the ground, barricaded himself with weapons, and lived free of snooping by third parties ?

You seen like a very unhappy person

i trust you.

Whats wrong with being paranoid? Why does everyone associate privacy as being bad now days? Thats brainwashing. You've been conditioned by the CIA to think that way.

It is still a big issue. Because there are very few people, outside of people with a developer level of knowledge, which would know that this is possible, let alone how to do it. You are giving people FAR too much credit. Most people are complete morons when it comes to computers.

I was just giving you a historical analogy

I was making a point… 'snooping' has been around long before technology ever began… Imagine how bad snooping used to be when the only form of communication was the spoken word…

I was simply illustrating the fact that no form of electronic communication has ever been secure

The simple fact that it has to travel from point A to point b means whoever is acting as the carrier has complete access between point a and point b oh, and if you thought you had the right to privacy, you were sadly mistaken….

the United States Constitution never mentions the internet…

If you don't want to use smartphones, good for you

(But the government already has all of your information stored and set aside, whether you touch a smartphone or not… It's not the only form of surreptitious data collection they use, and no matter what form of encryption or VPN you try using on your computer, you don't own the internet and you are not the carrier or the service provider, and everything you do on the Internet is being logged and stored and collected, and there's absolutely nothing you can do to prevent them from knowing your physical location and knowing exactly who you are)

The point I'm trying to make is clear:

I'm not trying to sell you a smartphone
I'm not here to say they are a good thing

I'm simply saying there's nothing you can do to stop the world from turning, and your efforts are wasted, because you're spending all your energy thinking you can control the uncontrollable, and meanwhile the world continues to turn, and people are out there enjoying their existences, and I'm speaking to you right now through a smartphone, and I am not jeopardizing a goddamn thing, and in no way shape or form is this smartphone (or any third party app OR the government) putting me in harm's way or diminishing the quality of my life.

In fact…. It's nothing more than a small portable computer, and yes I realize it is used to track me, but I really don't mind being tracked, because in life everything is a give-and-take, and I received a lot of laughter and interests and benefits from this mobile computer in my hand, and I have learned a lot from it, because while I am standing in line to order food at my favorite funky vegan restaurant, I'm able to search the internet and learn whatever the fuck I want to learn, or even shitpost in here.

Well as I said Bravo to those who have the skills and know-how to do it. Most people do not… and THAT is the core problem.

My recommendation: UNLESS you actually know how to hack, or root, the phone and nullify all the spyware and spoof all that info being sent through it, then I'd recommend staying away from them altogether. Thats about 99% of people btw.

hahaha !!! that was funny

I hate to burst your bubble, but I've got to be honest with you……

I really don't know anybody who hasn't rooted their smartphone before…..

Almost everybody I know has rooted their phone before, or at the very least, they know exactly how to do it, and more importantly WHY….

YouTube has thousands and thousands of videos about it… It's not a secret

You're lying, or you're only friends with hipsters in a large city.

I'm surprised you don't spend your days creating threads complaining about driver's licenses.

I'm surprised you registered to vote.

Those are two of the most fundamental identification storage systems the government uses

if you have enough money and a nice lab you can exploit the actual hardware and since phones are SoC you can then go one step deeper than rooting.
it is about money, once the consumer gets wise to the fact that this information is worth a lot of money and how much is actually being collected, there will be regulation, then you will see people getting paid by advertisers to use the latest phones and gadgets, they will literally have to give them away for free. of course this is a worst case scenario so they try to collect the info surreptitiously and try to destroy the very idea of privacy. i think blackmail will be a growth industry in a decade or sooner due to unchecked proliferation of these exploits.

nope…. 100% true I meet STUPID NIGGERS who root their phones….

Google KINGROOT ONE TOUCH ROOTING

It's quite often just as simple as the push of one button and your phone is rooted…..

All I'm trying to say is this is REAL NEWS and people should be aware of all these things because the world is turning into a dystopiac nightmare on steroids.

But yah, if you use the right OPSEC there is only limited amounts of info they may retrieve and doing so takes more money, time and resources depending how good your OPSEC truly is. If you are ever wanted, they don't even need you on the internet to get you anyway.

that horseless carriage has been the cause of the deaths of hundreds of millions over the past 100 years as states do nothing but pursue oil, oil, oil, so that you can drive around with your "everything is fine" grin on your face, heckling old-timers about their "fears."
when it comes for you, you will know fear on a scale you cannot yet imagine. and it will come when you, too, are an "old timer" unable to defend himself from the horseless carriages that will crush your bones into atoms.