Kikes in Control: Facebook Will Now Give Data on 'Hate Speech' to Any Court That Requests It

* Follows Macron-Zuckerberg meetings

* France seeks to take lead role in regulating tech groups

* Hate speech now at "same level as terrorism" - lawyer (Adds comment, background)

By Mathieu Rosemain

PARIS, June 25 (Reuters) - In a world first, Facebook has agreed to hand over the identification data of French users suspected of hate speech on its platform to judges, France's minister for digital affairs Cedric O said on Tuesday.

O, whose father is South Korean, is one of French President Emmanuel Macron's earliest followers, and has been influential in shaping the president's thinking on Big Tech as an advisor at the Elysee palace in the first two years of Macron's presidency.

The decision by the world's biggest social media network comes after successive meetings between Zuckerberg and Macron, who wants to take a leading role globally on the regulation of hate speech and the spread of false information online.

So far, Facebook has cooperated with French justice on matters related to terrorist attacks and violent acts by transferring the IP addresses and other identification data of suspected individuals to French judges who formally demanded it.

Following a meeting between Nick Clegg, Facebook's head of global affairs, and O last week, the social media company has extended this cooperation to hate speech.

"This is huge news, it means that the judicial process will be able to run normally," O told Reuters in an interview. "It's really very important, they're only doing it for France."

O, who said he had been in close contact with Clegg over the last few days on the issue, said Facebook's decision was the result of an ongoing conversation between the internet giant and the French administration.

Since his nomination as minister in March, O has made the fight against hate speech online a key priority through regular contacts with Facebook's top executives, including founder Mark Zuckerberg.

Facebook declined to comment.

STRONG SIGNAL

"It is a strong signal in terms of regulation," said Sonia Cisse, a counsel at law firm Linklaters, adding that it was a world first. "Hate speech is no longer considered part of freedom of speech, it's now on the same level as terrorism."

With Facebook's latest move, France is now a clear frontrunner in the quest to regulate big social media outlets, and other platforms might follow suite, Cisse said.

The discussions on how to best regulate tech giants began with a Zuckerberg-Macron meeting last year, followed by a report on tech regulation last month that Facebook's founder considered could be a blueprint for wider EU regulation.

Facebook had refrained from handing over identification data of people suspected of hate speech because it was not compelled to do so under U.S.-French legal conventions and because it was worried countries without an independent judiciary could abuse it.

France's parliament, where Macron's ruling party has a comfortable majority, is debating legislation that would give the new regulator the power to fine tech companies up to 4% of their global revenue if they don't do enough to remove hateful content from their network.

O also signalled his openness to seeing French startups being snapped up by larger U.S. companies, in a spite of recent measures taken by Macron's government to bolster anti-takeover rules to protect the country's strategic companies.

"My only goal is to spur the creation of a lot of companies," he said. "I have no problem with the fact that some of them are bought by U.S. companies, as long as they don't have critical technology."

TOO BIG

The minister is also reluctant to support the idea of breaking up companies like Facebook or Google, whose size, weight on the Internet and financial firepower have turned them into systemic players just as much as big banks.

Facebook has been called a social media monopoly by co-founder Chris Hughes, and calls for a break-up of the group have intensified.

"We cannot impose very tough obligations on Western companies and dismantle them because they are very big, and not do the same thing with Chinese companies that enter the Western market," he said, referring to groups like Alibaba and Tencent.

A graduate of France's top business school, HEC, O combines political experience - he was an aide to Dominique Strauss-Khan, like many of the tight group of "Macron Boys" who propelled him to power - and a stint in the private sector, at engine maker Safran.

At the Elysee, he was in charge of advising Macron on the French government's vast portfolio of stakes in French companies, having to deal with hot corporate sagas such as Renault-Nissan, as well as handling relations with Big Tech.

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Thanks you for posting REAL NEWS, OP!

It's about time FB started obeying the laws of the countries it operates in and not hiding behind where their head office is located.

So censorship is good and fine? Why is someone like you even on a site like this then? Go back to Facebook pleb.

HINT: it's not just Facebook, dumbass

ANYBODY who gets a court order to hand over documents IS UNDER A COURT ORDER, and they will comply, or be held in contempt of court & charged with a crime

you're a COMPLETE fucking idiot

WRONG. Companies are ONLY obliged to obey court orders in the countries they RESIDE IN. Facebook says they'll comply around the globe, and that was their own choice. Another reason never to trust Big Tech.

If Facebook does not hold HQ or offices/servers in France, then in all reality, France has no jurisdiction over Facebook. Thats how nations work, nations are sovereign. However, if Facebook wants to oblige, they can…. and they did.

New Zealand ordered Zig Forums to give up data after that NZ shooting. Zig Forums refused…. because New Zealand does NOT have jurisdiction over Zig Forums. Therefore Zig Forums told them to take a hike.

However…. the FBI does have jurisdiction over Zig Forums (because Zig Forums is located in the US)…. and this is how they got Zig Forums to hand over user data during that time, and the FBI likely shared that data to NZ authorities, as it was Trump who authorized the US to work with NZ and provide them any data they desired after the shooting occurred. Ask Jim.

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lol @ "ask Jim"

you……………

are……………..

STUPID……………

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These are the countries where Facebook has corporate offices

YOU…….. ARE………. STUPID !!……….

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Europe, Middle East, & Africa Corporate Offices:

Amsterdam, Netherlands
Berlin, Germany
Brussels, Belgium
Clonee, Ireland
Copenhagen, Denmark
Cork, Ireland
Dubai, United Arab Emirates
Dublin, Ireland
Geneva, Switzerland
Hamburg, Germany
Johannesburg, South Africa
London, United Kingdom
Luleå, Sweden
Madrid, Spain
Milan, Italy
Odense, Denmark
Oslo, Norway
Paris, France
Stockholm, Sweden
Tel Aviv, Israel
Warsaw, Poland
Zurich, Switzerland

YOU : ARE STUPID

YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT !!!

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how does it feel TO BE STUPID ?

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A G A I N , D U M D U M :

ANYBODY who gets a court order to hand over documents IS UNDER A COURT ORDER, and they will comply, or be held in contempt of court & charged with a crime''

you're a COMPLETE fucking idiot

once again :

you don't know JACK FUCKING SHIT

A: an idiot

Q: what do you call an idiot who doesn't know jack shit but they pretend to be an 'expert'?

Facebook Corporate Offices Paris
6 rue Ménars, 75002
Paris, France

dude……………………………………………………..


can't you do ANYTHING right?

you make it SO EASY to disprove and debunk your bullshit

June 26th, 2019 :
the day you learned that facebook has corporate offices worldwide

In fact, as we speak, Facebook has 32 job openings at their Paris, France Corporate Office.

sign up. with 32 sane people there, infiltration will begin and grow to absolution.

Since I'm never wrong, and little children can't run circles around me……

I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW THAT FEELS

so tell me…. how does that feel?

Lol I missed you JN, where you been bro?

Letting a private company set legal standards is wrong

Calling each other stupid doesn't help. Big Corps have branches in other countries than US, this is how they get them. As far as I know.

Taking care of life's business

dipshit

FB isn't censoring, they are responding to legal court orders

This thread proves that OP doesn't know jack fucking shit

Where is their Head Office located?
They are breaking the law. Mark Zuckerberg is a robot.

Bullshit. What do you think "hate speech" laws are for, goyim?

It doesn't matter where their 'head office' (as your stupidly call it) is in the United States, because they are a global Corporation with global corporate offices located all around the world, and as such, are bound to the laws of those individual nations.

HINT: never waste your time listening to 'expert opinions' of people who aren't even minimally informed.

There's no such thing as 'a Head Office'

The correct terminology is:
CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS

and they have dozens of corporate headquarters located all around the world, in several countries.

When a French Corporation opens Corporate Headquarters in The United States, that Corporation's American Operations Division is subject to U.S. law.

If a United States Court subpoenas documentation from them, they must comply, or face contempt of court.

YOU…. ARE…. STUPID…..

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They're causing people to make hate speech with a cyber weapon that stimulates people's brains to become enraged.

This is fucking stupid

When a German Corporation opens Corporate Headquarters in The United Kingdom, that Corporation's UK Operations Division is subject to UK law.

If a United Kindom Court System subpoenas documentation from them, they must comply, or face contempt of court.

YOU…. ARE…. STUPID…..

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lol yeah… sure they are, psycho….

sure they are…………………………….

When an Italian Corporation opens Corporate Headquarters in Belgium, that Corporation's Belgian Operations Division is subject to Belgian law.

If a Belgian Court subpoenas documentation from them, they must comply, or face contempt of court.

YOU…. ARE…. STUPID…..

And when Facebook has a Corporate Headquarters in France, Facebook's French Operations Division is subject to French Law.

If a French Court subpoenas documentation from Facebook's French Operations Division, they will either comply or face contempt of court charged.

YOU'RE…. A…. FUCKING … DIPSHIT…..

There are countries where obeying the law means not criticising the government. Should Facebook and Twitter keep providing free surveillance tools to these places?

I agree 100% that Facebook is "following the law." I think everyone is wondering at what cost? It doesn't really matter to us, obviously no one here relies on shittube, Facebook, or Twitter. But, it is sad to see once open platforms become hyper efficient government tools, as it's sad to me.

By the way, courts don't 'request' things.

courts aren't in the business of requesting
courts are in the business of making ORDERS