Do you believe a holy war is coming to Europe between Muslims and Christians? As in India...

nah i wasn't talking about islam. I'm talking more about sexual liberation and so on. There are other christians out there that do a better job and are more focused on it. EMJ is great on sexual liberation and jews though.
yeah i think we christians have to *tradionalists*. We hope to create a future that keeps an connection and the wisdom of the past, rejecting modernity.
I think EMJ is doing a great job taking people off the gay disco. We have to tell them that these things were created solely to destroy us and our society. Too bad the right is composed of pozzed brainlets.

*have to be

No. Our battle is not in this world, but in the spiritual realm. Christianity is not spread by the sword (though many have tried), but by the proclaiming of the Gospel.

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This is sad. It confirms my suspicion that when Christianity was strong (Middle Ages for example, literally defending the continent against Muslim invaders) it was because of pagan influences and not Christian values.

You seem confused. Self-defense wouldn't fall under the Christian compulsion towards peaceful propagation of the Faith.

It has already started; we just refuse to accept that: we bombed them back home, they bombed us in our homes.
I have a few Muslim friends, and probably one day we’ll meet as opponents on a civil war battlefield.
Stay close to God, anons from the USA: and try to save the seed of faith; most of Europe will be lost to this storm, but there’s still a small chance pockets of us will survive.
The ones who took God, Traditions and Nation seriously, with no hatred but ardent passion to protect what God and their forefathers entrusted them with.

cucked and cringepilled

This.

Self defense is justified. Of course large part of battle is spiritual but physical self defense is not forbidden, when it is necessary then quite the contrary.
People larping about only "spiritual realm" probably cannot even stop beating their meat because their faith consists of liberal virtue signaling and larping.
The same sort of people will spit on graves of crusaders who defended Europe with their lives. Truly disgusting.
Anyone willing to offer his life for his faith wages a battle in the spiritual realm. If you are not completely retarded you know that larping/caring only for material things will not create heroism.

Well either this or after 2000 years when the modern world was let loose the "true christianity" was found in this modern version.
Take your pick. Perhaps the people before us got it all wrong amirite.
This is the useless end of history thinking propagated by the left

Islam is a distraction. Heathens need to fear them far more than Christians. If you want a holy war, fight the people in your very churches that are teaching skeptic views, marrying queers, relaxing morality, and abusing children.

Care to provide some historical proof of your assertions? Protestants had no qualms with waging war, just war or not.

Thank God I converted to Christianity.

Pray for us men of the east, for we pray for your safety; and even now the enemy and its minions have theirs eyes on the horizon eastward as if the fall of the west is a given, do not give them any satisfaction.

Sorry if I was sounding a bit too black-pilled. You brethren in the East are a luminous example for us all; I just grew tired of seeing my people, once an earnestly Christian Nation, turning into spineless bundles of sticks.

This.
Its the jews and I would unironically ally with hindis budhists and muslims to purge them.
We should put them all on an Island and evangelize them for a thousand years.

If you told that one is obliged to take all foreigners into a country in the middle ages people would think you are nuts or traitor. Even 100 years christianity was not teaching absolute pacifism. As you say even Protestants had no qualms with waging war and they were for a long time the most "modern" faction….hence this gay notion of not being allowed to defend oneself is even younger.
And some believe it to be the "true faith"? It is just preposterous. It is inherently the end of history thinking - by progress the true faith was found in equality notions of marxism and in sanctimonious proclaiming pacifism at all costs.

This, Islam is perverse and cruel, but having John Bolton types tell me that I need to Iraq, to kill Shias and die for Israhell and the House of Saud, because there's neither gay marriage nor democracy in Iran, is beyond ridiculous.

Iranians have a republic, it may be theocratic, but the founding fathers would probably have supported it, all things considered. Second off, I'm not dying for some corrupt Whigs who drag around the Crown's authority like they own it, while letting Americans fight their wars, and lastly I'm not fighting for "democracy" EVER.

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Do you really think Europeans are ready fight for the christian faith? Think again. The West is spiritually dead.

God sent them here for a reason, user. Sending them home is pointless, because they are not the real enemy.

How do you know God doesn't want us to send the Muslims home?

How is it pointless? They're like burgulars. Breaking into our countries. They need to go back.

Well yea Myslims are gonna start shit. So either europe wages a holy war or gets wiped out. Probly get wiped out.

Not him, but I will provide proof that initially Christianity was very pacifist. The heroic values that we see in the Middle Ages and holy wars were due to pagan or external influences:

Epistle of Mathetes to Diognetus
>But, inhabiting Greek as well as barbarian cities, according as the lot of each of them has determined, and following the customs of the natives in respect to clothing, food, and the rest of their ordinary conduct, they display to us their wonderful and confessedly striking method of life. They dwell in their own countries, but simply as sojourners. As citizens, they share in all things with others, and yet endure all things as if foreigners. Every foreign land is to them as their native country, and every land of their birth as a land of strangers. They marry, as do all [others]; they beget children; but they do not destroy their offspring. They have a common table, but not a common bed. They are in the flesh, but they do not live after the flesh. 2 Corinthians 10:3 They pass their days on earth, but they are citizens of heaven. Philippians 3:20 They obey the prescribed laws, and at the same time surpass the laws by their lives. They love all men, and are persecuted by all. They are unknown and condemned; they are put to death, and restored to life. 2 Corinthians 6:9 They are poor, yet make many rich; 2 Corinthians 6:10 they are in lack of all things, and yet abound in all; they are dishonoured, and yet in their very dishonour are glorified. They are evil spoken of, and yet are justified; they are reviled, and bless; 2 Corinthians 4:12 they are insulted, and repay the insult with honour; they do good, yet are punished as evil-doers. When punished, they rejoice as if quickened into life; they are assailed by the Jews as foreigners, and are persecuted by the Greeks; yet those who hate them are unable to assign any reason for their hatred.

Tertullian, Of the Soldier’s Crown, Chapter 11:
>when a man has become a believer, and faith has been sealed, there must be either an immediate abandonment of it [military service], which has been the course with many; or all sorts of quibbling will have to be resorted to in order to avoid offending God, and that is not allowed even outside of military service; or, last of all, for God the fate must be endured which a citizen-faith has been no less ready to accept.Neither does military service hold out escape from punishment of sins, or exemption from martyrdom.

Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho, 110
>us the Christians, who, having learned the true worship of God from the law, and the word which went forth from Jerusalem by means of the apostles of Jesus, have fled for safety to the God of Jacob and God of Israel; and we who were filled with war, and mutual slaughter, and every wickedness, have each through the whole earth changed our warlike weapons,–our swords into ploughshares, and our spears into implements of tillage,–and we cultivate piety, righteousness, philanthropy, faith, and hope, which we have from the Father Himself through Him who was crucified;

Ireneus, Against Heresies (Book IV, Chapter 34-4)
>But if the law of liberty, that is, the word of God, preached by the apostles (who went forth from Jerusalem) throughout all the earth, caused such a change in the state of things, that these [nations] did form the swords and war-lances into ploughshares, and changed them into pruning-hooks for reaping the grain, [that is], into instruments used for peaceful purposes, and that they are now unaccustomed to fighting, but when smitten, offer also the other cheek, Matthew 5:39 then the prophets have not spoken these things of any other person, but of Him who effected them

Origen, Contra Celsum, Book V, 33
>And to those who inquire of us whence we come, or who is our founder, we reply that we have come, agreeably to the counsels of Jesus, to cut down our hostile and insolent 'wordy' swords into ploughshares, and to convert into pruning-hooks the spears formerly employed in war. For we no longer take up sword against nation, nor do we learn war any more, having become children of peace, for the sake of Jesus, who is our leader

Read Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 28. That's what's happening to Europe and your local nationalist movement won't be able to stop it. Fighting the punishment won't work. Only if Europe comes back to Christ will it stop, but we probably won't. I've come to believe that Europe is doomed and that it's a good thing, because God wills it.

You may be right but in their minds they certainly thought they were being great christians and the church supported them: youtube.com/watch?v=G1kd9KsqKvw&t=149s

No. Are you a prophet?

Get out JW. The Byzantine military saints forgive you for this heresy.

I'm no prophet, but I don't think the Bible is wrong, do you? And besides, what's worth defending in Europe? Western liberal values? Sexual promiscuity, sodomy and pornography? Secularism? Abortion? That's all Europe is today. That's all the West will ever be without God.

He's a heretic for quoting the early church? Two of those were even saints (Irenaeus and Justin).

I'm not sure it will be some sort of open warfare thing. If anything a lot of the muslims who stream into Europe eventually leaves Islam when exposed to any arguments against it or converts or they start to develop a sort of protestant spirit and interpret the Islamic scriptures in different ways than the Saudis do.

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It's worse, Liberals think that white Christian civilization is uncivilized, whereas Islam is civilized. They are total relativists who don't care and merely wish destruction on us and themselves. One of the reasons I became Christian is that I noticed the mass-suicidal ideation.

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Christians don't fight. Christians are cucks who turn the other ass cheek for their enemies. That's why Hwite countries are full of 3rd world vermin.

A bunch of black pilled faggots I see here, and some pagans basing their conclusions from them.

Unironically happy for the coming alliance between Catholics and muslims against the degenerate atheist wh*Tes. Tradition versus modernity, not tradition vs tradition while modernity reaps all the benefits.

Islam is simply a grossly simplified Christianity (transcendental elements that are hard to understand, like the Trinity, Incarnation, the relation between grace and free will, portrayals of God, (and so forth) are rejected) including a tincture of Gnostic/Judaic elements, with the added bellicose/primitive nature of the Arab world. This, however, has kept them relatively more "pure" - they still do practices like mortification of the flesh (one of the greatest acts of penance, drawing blood is good, sorry modernists), strict fasting, understanding the role of women (our Scriptures do not exactly line up with theirs, but there is no excuse for what passes off as "Catholic" principles regarding women today–heck, only the canon law of 1983 made veiling at Church optional) in practice, though polygamy is permitted (and the Quran/Hadith will teach that sex can be for only pleasure), they still generally understand the role of sex as first and foremost for reproduction… condemn sodomy/democracy/usury… also, they still have mystics… and believe in religious exclusivity, instead of outright heretical religious freedom. (Religious 'tolerance' is the older Catholic position, but we also must bring back religious exclusivity, of course.) Reject modernity, friends.

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Why people worry about Muslims when they're actively ruled by Satanists is beyond me.

meant for

Things make sense once you realize that the liberal deists/"skeptics" of the Enlightenment were Satanists.

All apart of the distraction to fuel the freemasonic agenda of pitting Islam agianst Christianity. What sucks is now that freemasons were successful at shattering Christianity into thousands of denoms, it makes it easier for Islam to stroll on in and make a stink of the place. It doesn't help that prot nations keep bombing Islamic nations for the MIC/Mammon.

No, here in Denmark some of the most welcoming I've talked to, regarding Islam are Christians. They firmly believe that more people who are religious will bring about a shift in which people view religion. So it's a win-win, even if everybody just converts to Islam since JW seems to be the only ones out and trying to speak to people.

This would unironically be the funniest thing. And in line with what God would do. >Invade Protestant lands

Our Lady told us ALL all of these things were going to happen like 500 years ago.

When?

A Conceptionist sister named Mother Mariana de Jesús Torres purportedly received Marian apparitions under this title from 2 February 1594 to 2 February 1634. In 1611, the local bishop gave his approval to the apparitions that had occurred up to that point.

The apparition messages predict a "spiritual catastrophe" in the Catholic Church and in society, beginning "shortly after the middle of the twentieth century" and including:

On 8 December 1634, the apparition predicted that papal infallibility "will be declared a dogma of the Faith by the same Pope chosen to proclaim the dogma of the Mystery of My Immaculate Conception." In 1854, Pope Pius IX defined the dogma of the Immaculate Conception, and in 1870, he declared the dogma of papal infallibility as defined by the First Vatican Council.

It’s called Our Lady of Good Success go look it up. The reason it is interesting is she mentions Russia by name becoming a power and spreading errors in 1600 before Russia really got off the ground and was still some weird back water land.

But doesn't the message speak of masonry before the word was invented?

Speak for yourself, if you yourself are dead, a dead coward

Fpbp

No, given most Euros are secularists and atheists, more accurately a war between muslims and secularists is what would happen

Yes it mentions Masons will take over the Colonies which will become the Republic and infiltrate the Church.

Only if Europeans fall for jewish tricks.
Evangelicals seem the most susceptible to anti-muslim antagonism, so do many on the pagan far-right.