Former pick up artist Roosh V changes forum rules to not lead men to sin

1 .You can no longer discuss fornication or pre-marital sexual activity

Things you can discuss:

-Meeting women with the intention of entering a relationship with them
-Attracting women
-Going on dates
-How to enter relationships
-Using technology to meet women
-How to maintain relationships
-Sexual activity while married

Things you can no longer discuss:

-Meeting women with the intention of fornicating with them
-How to bang
-Physical intimacy with women you're not married to beyond the act of kissing
-Maintaining relationships with multiple women (i.e. spinning plates)
-Cheating on significant others (adultery)
-Using technology to fornicate
-Discussion of travel destinations which are best for fornication
-Stories of sexual activity while not married
-Promoting masturbation, oral sex, anal sex, etc.

2. You can no longer use pornographic or vulgar language

-Refrain from using terms like "I winnie the poohed her" or "I want to winnie the pooh her." Do not describe sexual encounters or situations that are beyond the act of kissing unless you are married.
-Refrain from using profanity if a cleaner word would suffice.

These rules will cause great change to the forum

The above two rules will mostly apply to the Game and Travel subforums. I know that I may lose some of you because of these rules, but I can no longer help men lead a life of sin, because doing so is weighing on my conscious.

I created this forum in 2008 to help men fornicate, so I don't know if it's possible to "retrofit" it for another purpose, but it's worth a try. In the meanwhile, I will gradually lock threads that break these new rules if they become active. The fully updated rules that new members see is stickied in the Everything Else forum. It can be viewed here.

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That's obviously great for him, but does he still sells and make money from his various PUA books ?

Yes. I think he will stop doing that in the future. I suspect he needs to find a new source of income first. His latest book was called lady and it was about how a woman should behave to find a good husband.

Check out his book shop link. A humongous chunk of his pro-fornication books are now listed as no longer available for sale. There's still a few rotten apples in the barrel… but this is still a freakishly huge step.

wow i didn't know how big this guy was

NICE

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Liberalism was a mistake. This roosh guy has earned my respect nonetheless. Hope he manages to free himself fro degeneracy for good.

They're not wrong though. He wants to repent for his sins, great, but that is absolutely the worst possible way to evangelize the message he's trying to spread. All this is going to do is reinforce the secular notion that Christians are authoritarian nut jobs and keep people away from the gospel. If he wanted to distance himself from his past, he should've either shut the whole forum down completely, or handed off to some other heathen to manage. It's not his role to play God for unwilling non-believers. This is little more than him loudly boasting about his righteousness. He still has a lot to learn.

In heaven there is a King, in hell all are equal.

I can already see the mass exodus of his current denizens due to Roosh finding some morals. The remaining users might find God and or tolerate the new rules. I am somewhat curious as to what the forum will turn into now that "sinposting" is verboten.

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I'm impressed he's taking it seriously. I remember even years ago when I was a bluepilled normie finding his content distasteful. Best of wishes to Roosh, he's in a position to save souls and truly make the world a better place.

Based and breadpilled

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they should take the final redpill or rather blackpill for PUArtists and join lookism.net then they might realize the vanity of the world or die coping.

BASED AND BREADPILLED

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Are you the /christianity/ spammer by any chance?

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Nice.

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I'm proud of this guy. I wish him the best.

This very seriously made me contemplate the nature of sin guys.
If this guy didn't go through all the sins and fornications that he did, would he have ever arrived at this point?
My personal experience (as I used to be a mass fornicator, which I reduced to a more "healthy" level, but still struggle with fully overcoming) is that if I didn't push myself to the very limits of moral transgression I could would have never understood my own wickedness. Everyone warned me where it will lead, and only when I have become damaged and hurt by sin did I realize the truth of those warnings.
Why am I like this? Why do I have to have firsthand experience before I can take something seriously?

We are.

MODERNISTS GET OUT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Read Romans user, it answers all these questions

Imagine not being an authoritarian and instead caving to the whims of sinners. Like Ahab caving to the whims of Jezebel. Democracy is cancer. Roosh's forum is not a democracy. He is the king of his domain. Don't like it? Go somewhere else.

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Authoritarianism is incompatible with agency (free will). Free will which is said to be a strict requirement to being a good/godly person. If you can't make your choices, you can't choose to be good any more than you can choose to be evil.

Found the freedom idolater.

It's his forum, he owns it. And it's not like he has a monopoly like Twitter or Youtube, there are lots of places people can go to talk about seduction online. So even if you're a free speech absolutist, he did nothing wrong. If he passed the forum on to a non-Christian to maintain in the same way it was before, he would be actively encouraging sin.

That would be true if he was running Zig Forums or Facebook. Roosh's forums are Roosh's forums.

Leaving aside that Facebook is Zuckerberg's forums now.

Our culture told us to fornicate and I did okay for myself except that I should have married this one girl 10 years ago but our culture had been altered by fornication and contraception so that I can only get married now that I have a "good job".

We already have a term for those. We call them (((Freemasons))). thank you, prots. Very cool

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"I Have Unpublished 11 Of My Books"

Bang
Bang Poland
Bang Ukraine
Bang Iceland
Don’t Bang Denmark
Bang Lithuania
Bang Estonia
Don’t Bang Latvia
Roosh’s Argentina Compendium
Roosh’s Brazil Compendium

This is just how we all are in general. We think we know better than people who mean us good or don't see the wisdom in their words because we don't have the same experience as them. Sometimes you just have to let someone put their hand on the stove and figure out that it's hot for themselves.

Jesus' disciples went through the same thing. We have to fall in order to learn how to get back up.

I'ved always hated fornication ever since I was about 15 years old. Have never done it and I never will.

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I think the death of his sister broke him. On her deathbed she probably asked "Would you want another man to treat me the way you treat other women?"

I consider this to be a form of the "Felix Culpa" concept. The Happy Fall, theorized by medieval theologians suggests that the fall of mankind was ultimately positive because it paved the way for our redemption through Jesus Christ.

It is a concept I have been pondering for some time and this was the conclusion I have come to (may God help me if it is incorrect):
1. God would have only set out to create the best world, as He is perfect.
2. God would have foreseen that the world He created and the men He created in that world would reject Him.
3. In creating this world, God knew it was the best world, even though mankind rejected Him.

From this I have come to believe that sin and redemptive suffering are a part of the creation process of mankind. That is not to say that they are good things (and just by composing this message I am forced to think deeper about these things), but rather through our self inflicted departure from God we appreciate Him greater upon our return. As to whether a world where this is not the case would be greater, I have not experienced such a world and never will. But through the 3 points above, I do not believe it would be better, nor would it glorify God as much.

this caused him to lose a lot of fans and turned a turmoil in his forums. but I REALLY respect him for this hard 180 degree decision on forums rules and to follow and love GOD with all his heart, soul, body, mind.

I've been having my own conflict with lust, and Roosh's decision to turn away from sexual immorality really solidified my resolve to quit all fapping and porn.

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Authority is good, if used wisely.
But any worthwhile society must have clear limits to that authority, and provide both a way of expressing criticism and feedback for the decisions of the authority, and a clear and bloodless transition of power, once that authority loses it's validity, either by reaching the end of it's agreed upon term, or by forfeiting it's legitimacy by sliding into totalitarian insanity.

So Roosh and EMJ collabed not too long ago.

He's abandoned fornication but he's still full of hate and lies in his heart

elaborate

WHAT

They atom-bombed the two most Catholic cities in Japan.

That is long debunked fake news.

Proof?

Have you never heard of this before? It's quite a long standing 'conspiracy'. Not exactly a false flag, but that the US had foreknowledge of Pearl Harbor. Wikipedia apparently calls it a "fringe theory" now (I don't remember reading that years ago), but you can read the information for yourself (not sure Wiki is the best source but…) and decide for yourself.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Harbor_advance-knowledge_conspiracy_theory

It's possible that 9/11 was a similar situation (rather than the crazy conspiracies like it was a hologram, energy weapon, controlled explosion etc). There are loads of terror plots foiled all the time, they could have known about that one and let it happen. But who knows. I don't think we will ever definitely know, so there isn't really much point.