Commiefornia wants to abolish the Sacrament of Confession

California confession bill passes state senate

In spite of protests that new legislation would be infringing upon religious liberty, the California state senate has overwhelmingly approved of a bill that would require Catholic priests to break the sacramental seal of confession.

The Senate on Friday voted 30-2 on Senate Bill 360, which would oblige priests to disclose information concerning the sexual abuse of minors that they hear in confession. The legislation now will be taken up by the state assembly.

“I am deeply disappointed with today’s Senate vote on SB 360, said Los Angeles Archbishop José H. Gomez. “I continue to believe we can strengthen mandated reporting laws to protect children’s safety while at the same time preserving the sanctity of penitential communications.”

Donohue predicted that the legislation would be unenforceable. “No priest is going to respect it and violate the sanctity of the confessional,” he said. “Moreover, Catholics are not required to respect unjust laws—and this is a clear example of such a law.”

Confession is sacrosanct, according to Catholic teaching, because it is communication between the penitent and God. According to Church law, a priest is automatically excommunicated if he reveals the contents of a confession.

“In the context of Confession, the priest, we hold, is operating in the very person of Christ, and therefore, the penitent is speaking to and hearing from the Lord himself,” Archbishop Gomez said earlier. “Thus, absolutely nothing ought to stand in the way of a sinner who seeks this font of grace.”

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>inb4 prots defend this

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Orthodox here. This is bad.

Funny how the confession is a contrite way of diminishing child abuse, yet they want to impede it by scaring people away. Not to mention the forced homosexual education somehow isn't bad for kids in this clown mentality. How do we save California?

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Romans 13:1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except by God’s appointment, and the authorities that exist have been instituted by God. 2 So the person who resists such authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will incur judgment

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Pretty sure the seal of confession is above worldly authority, bud.

…It isn't the priest that forgives the sin.

In the OP:

Lmao every martyr is in Hell because why disobey your govt and proclaim Christ as your savior
Begone, satan

This is actually wrong. The Priest does forgive the sin. That's why the priest says "I absolve you". God gives the authority to priests to forgive sins.

Do you have scripture for that?
That's one of the most blasphemous things I've ever seen written

John 20:23
Jesus speaking to His Apostles, who passed their authority down to the bishops, who delegate it to the priests.

When did the apostles pass their authority down to anyone?
How do you explain 1 John 1:19 "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
The only character in the Bible that had authority over sins was Jesus, and even the Jews thought it heretical that a man had claimed to have authority over the forgiveness of sins. They were hypocrites of course, but the understanding was that only a Holy perfect being could forgive.

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California is rightful Catholic clay. Priests will never obey this law.

Fun Fact: Did you know the Ottomans played a large role in backing the Protestant movement everywhere in Europe?

Well, there was Acts 1:15-26, where Matthias was chosen as the first Apostolic successor. There was also Acts 6:2-6, where the Apostles appointed seven deacons to act with their authority.
Taken in its context, it seems to be a reminder that we can't deny that we are sinful if we want to be forgiven our sins.
You're absolutely right. The Apostles' authority over sins was merely derivative of Jesus', and so is the authority of their successors and their successors' subordinates. No priest can forgive a sin that Jesus wouldn't forgive, for example a sin that hasn't been repented of. The priest can't just forgive on his own authority; he can only forgive in the name of Jesus Christ. The Church teaches that the priest is the instrument of God's mercy, not the source of it.
It's not really an incorrect understanding. It just so happens that it pleases the Holy perfect being that His mercy should come through the priests.

Maybe one day all those Catholic hispanics will realise just how little those they're voting for really care about them and their beliefs.

Good move, child rapists need to hang.

No, it's a horrible move, you mong. Not only this won't do anything to solve the homopederasty crisis (since priests won't follow that unjust law, no matter what) but it will discourage "regular" people from confessing, since they will fear for the privacy of their statements and open the door to state persecution of Catholics (as it always happened when someone tried to abolish the seal of confession ).

protestants and jews have quite a lot in common…

I never said that!

No one has this authority but those who commit it!

Your God the DEVIL!

a more simple way of saying it would be: yes, only jesus can forgive sins. but the catholic church is jesus' body.
priests can actually absolve anyone from their sins, even if the person doesn't want to be. for example, a sick elderly person on the verge of death who is unconscious. forgiving someone of their sins is part of last rites. canon law says that even if the person isn't catholic, if they receive last rites from a priest unconscious, as long as they have sorrow in their hearts for their sins, they will be forgiven. so they don't actually have to repent, feeling bad about it in their soul + priestly absolution is enough. its all semantics really, but i just felt like saying

I told you this is a falsehood. So why is it that you reject the words of the man you proclaim to believe in?

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Everything you posted is a Satanic lie!

When I speak of the son of "God", I speak not of myself or the God of Abraham, but of the things you currently are ignorant of!

Christ, Christos, Sophia, of the source (the all).

well now, guess this went south fast

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Unnecessary shit-stirring, OP.
Baptist here; they’re attacking all Christians though this. Ultimately it’s utterly unconstitutional and it won’t be put into effect. In the meantime, expect more earthquakes.

So to all the people saying Jesus never authorized others to do work in his place. He did several times actually.

The Priests were ALWAYS given the power to work in the place of Christ to conduct mass and tend the flock. Power given to them directly from Jesus Christ.

Second Commiefornia is going to be the first state to begin martyring Catholics. A Catholic Priest can not break the seal of confession regardless if any threats made to them. They swear an unbreakable vow to God many have gone on record saying they will die before breaking it.

Nobody cares about your retarded piece of paper which can't even stop abortion from being the most enshrined, fundamental right of neo-Sodom. Your freemason constitution will just mean whatever the current leftists want it to mean.

Surprising, but welcome news all the same.

Not really, considering prots don't believe in confession to a person, they're secularized to the point where they could see this as a good thing.

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