BURNOUT

I notice you mentioned feeling disturbed at the sight of female clergy. I should add that the Orthodox have Deaconesses, while the Catholics allow female altar servers and "Eucharistic ministers" (not priests or other clergy, but parishioners who assist with Holy Communion).

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okay thanks for the info. I don't like schism ( it is what lead to pro-gay Methodist "churches" I believe The Catholic Church despite its flaws is STILL the Church of Christ, as it was founded by Peter as tasked by Christ. If Christ wanted orthodox, he would have tasked peter/
And since Orthodox approve contraceptives that is a BIG no-no for me.

Really? That is a big warning flag for me. Sorry Orthos But this is a DEAL BREAKER

Not to be uncharitable, OP, but you just derailed your own thread. Anyways, the only big difference is that orthos claim the Pope is merely a "first between equals" while we Catholics believe he is the Vicar of Christ . Orthos will insist there are HUGE differences between us, though, and will likely bring up some advanced theological questions that the average layman, Catholic or Orthodox, never thinks about .

The Orthodox didn't schism from the Catholics. When you have five pentarchs and four of the five say they're orthodox while the fifth says they're the sole interpreter of doctrine it's pretty clear who is in schism.

They were deaconesses in name only and were necessary to perform certain sacraments for women since men weren't supposed to touch women. Catholics will act like we have female priests walking around like Lutherans when they know it's not true, it's a historical anomaly.

It's really the case that Orthodox "approve" contraceptives, it's just not dogmatic like in the Catholic church (who do not follow the teaching anyway). What makes this issue a deal breaker for you anyway?

You know how silly this sounds, don't you?

No problem OP. God bless you on your journey.

You can't look outside your own worldview, making you a slave to your presuppositions. You know it isn't any Orthodox Christian's position that they schismed from the Catholic Church.
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The Church isn't a democracy, user. Never has been and never will be.

It encourages LUST, which is the 1 sin that people commit far too often Bad, since the sexual revolution of the 60's is to blame for the destruction of nuclear families ( among other reasons) it is also population control by artificial means. My view is the BEST for of birth control is ABSTAINING. people can't seem to keep it in their pants. I struggle I'll admit, But I try my best to NOT do it. I just wish to find a wife to have kids with so they will love god. but it is hard to find a women who meets the criteria. And don't get me started on STD's.

on an unrelated note, My Cat is dying from old age. Is it wrong to pray for her comfort? She is a dear old friend of the family, comforted us many a cold winter night. I want her to go in peace. Can I also pray for my other cat who is the same age but in brilliant health. I will call her by my nickname for her "sh*t head' due to how much shit she has survived. She even survived 2 birds of prey trying to fight over her. And she NEVER seems fazed by it. SHE is my companion at night, in lieu of a lack of a human replacement. She is saggy a bit but no scars, no cuts, good health, in general

Of course no one wants to view themselves as schismatic. Even Sedes detest that label. However, I've explored both the RCC and Orthodox churches, and for reasons already stated and more, came to the conclusion that the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church is the Church founded by Jesus Christ, not the man-made Eastern Orthodox Church, Oriental Orthodox Church, Latvian Orthodox Church, Key Lime Pie Orthodox Church, or any other heretical "orthodox" church.

That's not how it works, "catholics" using contraceptives are cafetaria catholics and as much catholic as the Russians who abort their babies are orthodox.

Yet the Catholic Church isn't in schism because it has more members?

What does this have to do with matters of birth control between married couples not being dogmatic? Vaginal sex between spouses isn't lust. It's still a sin to not have children in marriage. If you struggle with sexual impropriety it may be a reason why you are so confused about this topic.

What reason did you give? Birth control? Point me to a dogma before the schism on the matter of birth control and I'll grant that you're right.
They schismed from us just as you did.

birth control is NOT fool proof. You may want kids. But maybe you for whatever reason can't have it…maybe you are in financial trouble or are suffering from legal trouble. If sex is to occur between spouses. NO PROTECTION. PERIOD. It is population control regardless. And I don't agree with that

have it…YET.

It doesn't matter that the Catholic Church has more members, what matters is it is right. The Church Fathers agree that it is necessary to have a Pope. Israel has always had one leader to be the representative for the Church here on Earth, starting with Moses.

Imagine if there were five Moseses instead of one. It would be ridiculously confusing.

You're arguing against a position I don't hold. Regardless, we don't believe in dogmatic morality not dictated by God.

That's quite the assertion, care to provide evidence?

believe what you will. But God is telling me to join the Catholics. You might disagree, but that is what he is telling me

Genesis 38:9-10. God is not fooled by Orthodox mental gymnastics. Now, OP got the answers he wanted, so I'm done here.

thank you user!

Seriously? This is mortal pride. I'll pray for you now because this is seriously unhealthy thinking, and the same type that originally prompted this thread.

If OP said God was telling him to become EO, you'd applaud him.

LOL no, I'd applaud him for looking in the right direction but that he should make sure he understands the faith before making the commitment. This is not a Catholic or Orthodox way of thinking, it's the type of pride that leads one to fake speaking in tongues.

I know full aware the Pentecostals are heretics. speaking like they are dunces. sad.

what does it copy statements from other posts i made? I don't get it.

*why does it

*I am full aware

Two hours ago you asked if there was a difference between Catholicism and Orthodoxy. I'm beginning to wonder if you're a Baptist troll

I misread here, never mind.

i knew Pentecostals are heretics. I knew before I came here. i also don't agree with Protestantism in general due to schism. And no I'm not baptist, shocking as that may sound.

Regardless has pointed out fallacies you have made. Don't waste seed as the lord says. I don't see point in it. (I know struggle, cause lonely) so contraception by definition is wrong, as it wastes seed. Does not look good for you orthobro. Can you make arguments why it is not a waste of seed? using the bible, perhaps?

And also don't really agree with proty, cause many have the big gay, and not the happy gay kind but sodomy is fun for the family kind of gay.

seriously what the winnie the pooh with the Methodists and their big gay?

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i know not all, but still.

also new here, how do i type in black censored or in red? I really want to know

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First fault: You need to feel good to serve God when it is a logical action
Second failure: You never connected feeling good to serving God
Third failure: You need to engage yourself in your community and tried to just read books.

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Yes you keep praying because it is a logical act. Worshiping God is a logical act.

Feeling good and feeling bad should not matter in this decision.

(Philippians 4:4-7)
(Matthew 18:1-5)

From these I could say two things:
1. There is absolutely nothing wrong with asking God to ease the burden of your cat. For prayer to God from your heart is never wrong.
2. Certainly as a child it is a natural thing to pray for, it comes from a more innocent nature.

That being said, I believe that the sufferings in this world are from God - to strengthen the faith of those who experience the suffering. Not only can personal suffering strengthen one's faith, but those around the one suffering can conduct good works from the Father. It is why you should never reject pity from others when you are injured. Certainly pray for the comfort of your cat, but you can provide comfort for your cherished pet. When my rabbit was dying, I prayed for a peaceful end. But I also cradled him in my arms as he took his last breaths. For if you are to look for God acting in this world, you will often find His handiwork in the good actions of men.

To expand upon this, Prayer isnt about asking god for what you need help with, he already knows. Prayer is about letting God know you have faith in him to ask him for those things. In this sense Prayer is absolutely something you do for God.

That is what I'm doing now. Thanks user. bless you!

A fall is good. There are many ways to pray.