MacWorld 1999

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What happened? It seems like everything they were pushing for computers to be nearly 20 years ago (Best performance, "top-of-the-line" technology, built to last, "We can do more", aesthetically pleasing) has dried up with only one one of those aspects still remaining (Aesthetically pleasing). Was it the fact that all the competition (Amiga) died? That too many people got into computers who honestly didn't care beyond the fact "It works"? What was it that killed Apple's desire to be the best home computer because I don't get that feel from their systems today?

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Pancreatic cancer.

You really seem to be viewing the good ol' days of Apple through rose-colored glasses. Macs were just as "top-of-the-line" then as they are now, and built to last was never any more than an empty promise.

This piece of shit happened. Since it prints money, why even give a shit about the Mac?

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Jobs was absolutely autistic about everything he made, he was no snakeoil salesman, you might not like what he sold, but he believed in what he sold.

might as well post this here.
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gets good when he introduces the g4

I'm writing this from an early 2009 iMac, I think nine years is quite a good number of years to get out of a computer without ever breaking.

Macs were never "top-of-the-line". For the longest time the fastest Macs were Amigas running emulators/translators.

Why do you keep calling these ugly, ugly plastic pieces of crap "aesthetically pleasing"? They look like fucking fisher-price toys!

Anti-Apple fags who have shit to say about Apple from 1997-2005 are fucking retarded and probably don't even know what a "NeXT" is.

You should not listen to these people as they were likely born around 2007 and only remember a shit Apple.

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Good one.

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Nice shitpost, homo

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I was telling my dad today that a rich guy in 1999 got buried with an iMac desktop, just like the second pick in your post, and he didn't believe me. I fucking saw that shit when I was a kid, and I know it's true. I just can't find the name. I thought I'd put it out there, just so you guys know that macfags were always a dedicated bunch. The guy also got buried with all sorts of other shit, so there's that.

Apple was always shit and PowerPC is garbage.

By 99 any IBM compatible for less than half the price was more powerful than any Mac.

They do, but in an era of gaymer faggot nigger-tier rgb fan computer cases and garbage-looking korean gay-bar aesthetic laptops, they would be a breath of fresh air.

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Nah, your taste is just shit.

Does anyone think that? I love that look.
Pic 1 was the competition, pic 2 is what we need more of.

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That's true during the "dark age" of Apple when Jobs was fired. Once he got back, he turned the company around. Well, until the iPhone came out.

The G5 makes me nut.

He wasn't ever fired from the company, just replaced as acting CEO but he remained in the Board of Directors.

He never came back though until they they bought NeXT.

Stuff like pic2 are fucking awesome.

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Yeah, that was a bit of an oversimplification. Either way my point stands.

Steve Jobs was still interested in making computers before he died. Tim Cook is only interested in iOS and mobile shit. It's an absolute crime the way he's let OSX and the Macintosh wither on the vine. What little effort he has put into making new computers has been an abysmal joke. Nobody bought the TrashcanPro™ because it's not a workstation. Nobody will buy the iMacPro™ for the same reason. They haven't updated the MacMini line in four years. Tim actually thinks someone will pay $499 for a Haswell with 4GB soldered onto the motherboard with the hard drive being the only thing user serviceable. Apple use to own the education market, but that was served up to Google by Tim on a silver platter. Currently none of Apple computers have a standard PCIE 16x slot making Macs a poor platform for working with machine learning and computer science in general. I'm not sure how much longer Tim (only good years) Cook can coast on the wave of a dead man.

I mean, supposedly they're creating a new Mac Pro that's going to be much more similar to the old one, with actual upgradable components. But none of it matters, they could let the macs die and they'd still be making bank from the iOS devices.

I thought that was the iMacPro. Why the fuck would they have a TrashcanPro™, iMacPro™, and MacPro™? Surely this is another Tim Cockup.

Good PowerPC G3 processors in sturdy colorful designs.

ALL THOSE MOMENTS WILL BE LOST IN TIME, LIKE TEARS IN RAIN. TIME TO DIE.


Given Jobs' past statements, and what he lived through, in my more sympathetic moments toward the man, I personally maintain a theory:

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I used a Mac in the 90's and it was awful. I'd rather be stuck on DOS for the rest of my life.

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used it for what?

iPhone money, and no one at modern apple has VISION


iWatch
iPad mini
iPad Maxxi
iPad Maxi pro

iPhone X

Macbook with 2" touchscreen
Keyboards that feel like typing on cardboard

Non-upgradable 'Pro' machines

iOS appstore is total garbage

iOS design unintentionally flat

more bugs than ever in OSX

introducing more mobile phone shit to Desktop OS

Oh look, a fucking imac for pros that throttles like a laptop

wow what a fucking genius. Steve must be rolling atm.

The hockey puck mouse was shit, but at least their stuff looked cool. It was whimsical, charming, approachable. Their current stuff is just... metal slabs. I can appreciate the simple elegance, but it's also kind of boring.

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It's perfect for asia-droid college students

They could already get those from the likes of Sony/Toshiba/Panasonic/Fujitsu/etc back when Apple joined in on these functional but boring cubes of metal back in the early 2000s. Before then, even Apple's black plastic boxes were stylish looking.

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Mac Classic/SE best macfu. Sure, the screen is small, but that's part of the charm. Everything you need is there in that little case that fits on even the smallest desk corner.

Here's a quote from tomi Ahonen that sums up the situation for Apple rather well

Color Classic very best macfu. All the tiny charm of the 128k, with just enough of the '90s polish.

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All according to keikaku, Steve.

What technologies is this in reference to?

Running MacOS is not as cool without shining Apple logo on the back.

You can run a Hackintosh today, and yet there's not much hipsters doing it.

Hackintoshes can be tricky to set up, an innocent update can totally bork it, and no tech support will touch it. So it's not a good idea if you have to rely on that fake Mac. It would be different if Apple made an actual official release for use with generic hardware.

Says someone who never used a Mac from the 80s or 90s.

fpbp

He was no Wozniak but at least he ran a tight ship and wasn't loose and gaping like Tim Cock.

This.

This.

What about Darwin?

The Woz and his innovative hardware designs are why Apple succeeded its first 10 years.

I'm fapping right now.

Because....

Does it include the cool interface / environment? Can it actually run macOS applications?

Darwin is just coreutils/Mach (now XNU) but it lacks the Mac(NeXT) libraries, Window Manager/compostior, and Cocoa stuff.

It would be like running GNU/Linux with zero access to the libraries, GTK or the XDG spec and technology.


There's GNUStep but people don't appear to know/care about it. We could pilfer so many apps from opensource.apple.com/release/macos-10133.html like the 3D chess app or their Rich Text Format App and compile and runt them natively on Linux, Windows and *BSD platforms like we have with GNUSTEP.

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For example, pic 1 is a popular art app for MacOS called Pikopixel.

pics 2 and 3 are of the same app after recompiling it against GNUsteps' libraries. As you can see, even though most people run GNUStep apps with the default NeXT theme (like the basic WINE theme), you CAN theme GNUStep apps to look match your desktop.

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If it all it is lacking is the interface, and that's all you care about, then that is your problem, not mine. As far as I am concerned, it does what an operating system is supposed to: handles resources and assigns them for user access.

gross

what the fuck are you doing?

Found the manchild.

Aluminum slabs isn't design.

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I really miss the heavy plastic transparency electronics had.
It was more durable than the alumishit they're pushing now. The only thing electronics seem to have gotten better since then is that there's a new hinge design that seems to function; that braid thing you see on the higher end laptops.
But new electronics seem like they're selling to niggers. Gold plated, bright buttons, and simple functionality layered in redundant complexity to achieve the same thing it did years ago.
Everything has this flat paper machete look to it, Like I'm in that Franklin Cartoon. Bright colours to keep things simple for niggers.
No more need to label things appropriately in fact we'll have two things do the same job at the same time.
I want off this ride.

basically what happened was capitalism decided that there was only gonna be windows and only going to be Intel

but gay people and mobile phones happened so Apple survived but there isn't really much you can do to be different when unerneath it all capitalism is preventing any alternatives

What if the aluminium slab was made out of transparent aluminium?

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No you retarded faggot, corporatism aka fascism decided. But you probably think fascim started in 2017.

Kek. (((Democracy))) is the means by which power buys influence buys votes.

No nigger that's why the US is great, it's a Republic where the individual's rights are where power originates. No mob mentality, no undue influence of the monied classes.

ur blowing my mind dude

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*influenced by the Tee Vee owned by rootless 'globalists'. The average person has no real-world conception of governance or division of labor or the National culture or the ability to distinguish between political means vs political ends.

Especially women and non-whites. These people are too naive, too emotional, too linear-thinking to make decisions. Not to mention they have a lesser stake, women for example do not pay the blood-price in war. Women and blacks are both dependent on government more than any other class.

I detect a little bit of roleplay from you though.

you're ok internet bot, you know how to entertain

Agreed on all points except roleplay.

Color me surprised.
Why don't you go back to your safe space, sweetheart? It's right around the corner: >>>Zig Forums

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i think you might have took the bait darl

You are a niggerbrained faggot.

If you can't take the banter, that's entirely your problem faggot.

Why are you even here?

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You're on the wrong site. Like a redditstep away from where you came from.

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bots don't like sarcasm, and their owners even made a nice meme to use as a defence mechanism

it should be on datamining bingo card

BASED

Don't be mad at me, spacefag. I'm just tired. Different timezone.

Transparent enclosures for electronics were created thanks to America's massive prison population. So that market is still around and mostly composed of the niggers you're complaining about.

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the only decent Macs then were Power Macs, which were so expensive only rich kids and professionals bought them, similar to that trash can thing they recently released. we're talking peak FPS & AOL days, literally everyone owned a PC and iMacs were a slow joke


at least they were being productive. it's always better to keep the money in your country.

The economics of the fashion industry, which Apple is part of.

If I wanted to 'ave a gander at a computer's circuits, I'd have it caseless instead of trying to peek through some semi-translucent plastic crap.

The only good thing about it is that it didn't age like shit like the white plastic cases did.

And let it get covered in dust and exposed to other elements?

tell me more about this transparent aluminum idea

brb, gotta get humpback whales.

Did you know they hand out condoms in the prisons for free.
But wait user theres more!
Prisoners are allowed to plan riots in advance and the guards are helpless to stop it as confining and segregating them could be an 8th amendment violation or racial profiling.
Inmates are allowed conjugal visits where they can get laid with some roasties coming to visit them.
That as a prison guard an inmate can create a spear out of newspaper and rubber band from their underwear stab you with it like a ballista and you have to sit there and take it.
They can also stab you with a dirty needle in an attempt to give you a bloodborne illness and you can only manage to make them sit 6 months more in prison.

An Ex-Navy Officer told me that the Navy actually has developed something like that, but then I began to realize she had grown senile so I question it. She claimed to be a Lt. and served in the Pentagon. Just something.

It was in that same interview Jobs admitted to wanting to get libarts faggots into tech by any means necessary.
He was always cunt

Yes, he was

Kill yourselves Applecucks
Was trash by the mid 90s as it got left in the dust in PC arms race.

lol
Then thank god for corporatism, after all, it built the modern world.

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All forms of resource distribution have and will be a fusion. You fundamentally cannot have one or the other in their pure forms.

Communism truly has never been tried, but it was never meant to be tried. Communism works if you have communities of around 120 MAX. Any more than that and you're going to need some form of hierarchy. Any person who sets out to govern either knows this going into it or realizes it pretty quickly, otherwise they won't survive in governance for long.

Stalin, Mao, and the other advocates of communism never believed in the ideology of Marx for even a moment, Communism has been a means to an end from the moment it was penned down. The only people who ever believed in Communism were the people dumb enough to empower those who wrote it.

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You don't really need to try capitalism, it's pretty much the default behavior of people when they know the concept of trade.

The default is feudalism, which capitalism is forming into.

What's cool is you'll be beaten to death by niggers and noone will stop to help you.

t. temporarily embarrassed millionaire

The default for Europeans is feudalism, which was perverted into Monarchy, which was transmuted into central bank capitalism. The system our current rulers are aiming for now (which will fail when the Saxon awakes) is some form of pseudo monarchy, and almost the exact opposite of feudalism. (((They))) want to rule through deception and blind adherence to abstract rules. (((They))) want to chose who rules over the people. Feudalism is a system of strength and direct rule. It's the will of the people manifest. It is "us" choosing the strongest among us to rule.
In a monarchy your birth decides if and whom you will serve or rule. In a feudalistic system you and your abilities decide. You can serve a lord, you can try your luck on your own, or you (Yes, even (You).) can challenge a lord to take his place.

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I'm not even a communist, but I have to say, stop pulling numbers out of your ass. "120 MAX"? Where the fuck did you get such an arbitrary number?

Looks like Dunbar's number. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar's_number

Not him, but the number seems to be derived from our current understanding of human cognitive abilities. The average number of people a European can have strong emotional memories of is about 150. Beyond this, people just become names and faces and statistics. IIRC east Asians can remember a few more and east Africans less than half as much.
That is probably the limit of direct rule. If we want bigger societies we will have to live with being ruled by communities of rulers who think of each other as people and us as names and statistics.