Disabling the botnet for good

I live in Eastern Europe. Before botnet and government monopolies knocked on our doors, every town/district had it's own local ISP made of next-door computer guys who started it as a local network for playing Doom/WC. A local ISP is basically a one big LAN with such services as: DC++ and torrent trackers, IRC server, CS/Quake servers, Email and XMPP server with outside world connection, non-botnet IPTV streams playable in VLC, some oldfag ISPs even had Fido, all these services available for free even if you forgot to pay monthly fees, you only lost outside connection. When Internet aka Interconnected Networks hmm really makes on noggin innit kicks the bucket, the lucky ones will still be on their local net, with content, chats, forums and even linux repo mirrors.

From my experience even small central/eastern euro was quite tech-forward. I visitied Hungary in ~2008, and drove through Slovenia on the way to some castle tourist spot. I got a message on my mobile "Welcome to Slovenia, here are some sights to see, blah blah." I was actually quite impressed. There was nothing like that in my "first world" country.

No doubt but they won't willingly use it unless absolutely forced to do so.

It was similar in the states until the local ISPs closed shop for good. Since broadband became a requirement the freedom has gone away for sure. Most people are limited to at best 2 choices in ISPs now. Which is why I think it'd be easy to disable the internet for the entire USA. Realistically you could disable internet access for most people by taking down 4-6 ISPs since they hold a nationwide monopoly.

The real solution is targeting the power grid though. While taking down power stations isn't easy (but it is doable) the grid isn't as well defended. If you were to destroy parts of it in key areas you could cause a nationwide rolling blackout as power stations are cut off from each other. You'd be surprised how fragile the entire thing is if you haven't looked into it.

Think of it this way: All it takes it a minor storm to knock down power in an entire area. Now imagine a roaming group of faggots bombing, cutting, and otherwise disabling everything major power line and transformer in sight. You don't even have to be familiar with the overall layout of the grid to inflict major damage. It takes days for this stuff to come back online and many man hours on the ground to get it ready to come back online. It isn't a simple fix especially if power plants are cut off from the rest of the grid and unable to start up other plants. The entire thing fails spectacularly with only minimal damage.

Now imagine an EMP type weapon which isn't beyond the realm of possibility for a Saturday Morning cartoon villain type to put together and deliver.

After having worked in major power plants and on the grid for many years I'm convinced a lone wolf could take it down if he did his homework.

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My friend still owns his own ISP in Eastern Europe. Though he did have a niche of wireless offers. When he started, the clientele were local geeks, who didn't have broadband built for them. Prices have remained constant while speed has been upgraded now to 300Mbit at max. I moved out of town but still seldom visit his IRC server.

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send ALL exploits to every IP.
then make that computer send to all IPs too.
control them all. ddos all ISP.
win internet and destroy it.

One man, a few well placed vespa's with backpacks of moltov cocktails at each one, and with ten hours you could destroy the entire USA power grid through sheer force of autism. It would cost less then 5,000 USD if placed properly. Thank God no one has done it

This is easier then that. A few specter exploits combined with a stuxnet tier worm and the entire thing comes crashing down. China could do it tommorow if their own grid wouldn't be fucked. I don't get why russia hasn't done it since they have switched to paper and do secure computing at their top levels now.

On the subject of botnet, has any user also have the latest versions of Firefox or Chrome constantly sending data at about 8-10Kbps even when there is no webpage open (i.e. a completely blank tab, with no "previous webpages" or anything like that) ??
From wireshark it is sending packets out through increasing port numbers (starting at 2, then 4, then 6,8,9...upwards into the thousands) to connect to a server and send encrypted data. I'm not a network person so I'm stumped, but the sequential ports seems very strange. Is it a new bot feature?
It only does this when Firefox or Chrome is running.
(All addons disabled, no extensions, fresh install, Firefox via Tor is OK)

What ip is it sending it to? Try doing an internet search for that address.

It is some generic server for CDN.
Akami International.

I was wrong about the increasing port number, I messed up wireshark column settings. Outbound packets are on port 443 to their server on port 56.
It is a constant upload speed of about 8~11Kbps that seems odd. It has only been doing this for about a week, and only when the browser is open.
It has botnet written all over it, even icecat was doing it. Only Tor hasn't so far

Likely google safebrowsing and update checking. Open the browser, go to about:config and search "goog" delete all google addresses. Also run an nslookup on the address to see what it typically resolves to and see if you can delete that link as well.

If you really want to see what it is look into stripping the ssl

AKA a CIAnigger shell company via affiliation with perfect privacy LLC via affiliation with whom owns the DNC email servers being hilliary clinton's DNC employees who work for the CIA and FBI mostly CIA.

Is this a whois protection service? If so, you are an idiot for claiming that two people who use the same whois protection service are related.

No, its a cia shell company you stupid fuck.

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Now you can have proof

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Wow they shoahed all the archive links to the whois data. This is bullshit. I should have taken more pics.

there was no internet in the 70s, not to mention web which only existed in in the late 90's, which is the only thing CDN applies to

Still proves nothing. It's literally the equivalent of saying that two sites are working together because they both use cloudflare.

Your dates are off. ARPANET was created in 1969, though it didn't adopt TCP/IP until 1983.

The Web became public in 1991 and started gaining steam in 1993 when Mosaic was released.

Man I remember those days. Then the local ISP got bought off by a communications company. Good thing is that in Eastern Europe no one really enforces any kind of laws, even if they are paid to do so. Trackers will not go offline

As if I wasn't paranoid enough already. You know you've shit posted for freedom too hard when your browser starts needless data uploads.
Press F to remember my shitposting user
and digging Clinton emails. Fug :X

This I know, which is why I was surprised icecat was doing exactly the same. See
I don't use palememe, because I know it's a meme. As mentioned Tor is 'OK' and not uploading data, but we know Tor is already compromised because glowniggers have got many exit nodes.

Thanks anons for the pointers

We've not seen another Nimda because everyone making viruses and worms got hired to work on them professionally. That one barely had any payload and took the internet down just by how aggressively it spread.

For any other anons finding something similar. I've managed to stop the uploads and downloading packets.
The 'downloading' packets were a server response that indicated detectportalfirefox.com/success.txt was being sent repeatedly & rapidly.

From the botnet manual support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-stop-firefox-making-automatic-connections:
text-------------------- In the address bar, type about:config and press EnterReturn. The about:config "This might void your warranty!" warning page may appear. Click I'll be careful, I promise!I accept the risk! to continue to the about:config page. In the about:config page, search for the preference network.captive-portal-service.enabled (for example, you can type portal in the search box above the list and pause while the list is filtered). Observe the Value column of the network.captive-portal-service.enabled row. If it is set to false then do nothing. If it is set to true, double-click on it to set it to false. -----------------------support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-stop-firefox-making-automatic-connections
This resolved the issue I was facing, at least in part. Though I can hear the disk ticking over, so I wonder if this was merely a more visible part of a botnet infestation. Ah, the joys of autism and paranoia user ;^)

Eariler I had tried an user's suggestion by going into about:config and sanitizing everything found for the term "goog". I set any options found to be the same as the Torbrowser (a Firefox derivative). There are many more botnet settings than Torbrowser, so those I set blank to err on the side of caution. However, this had no effect on the issue I was facing.

During the search for resolution I stumbled on the following which may be of interest to anons far more knowledgeable than I in the area of networking - who may find this useful:
packetpushers.net/using-wireshark-to-decode-ssltls-packets/

Since I'm no longer torpedoing and able to post images, here's an old and still very relevant OC

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Solving this is worth new OC for (you) user.

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traps indeed

Easy way to prevent botnet tier leaks is to run a local proxy and route your connections to a certain local port. this way only proxied programs get access.
The rest is

Tor is ironically compromised now due to sorosfox share acquisition (combat le fake news)
Palememe on the other hand suffers that 'botnet subdomain' on default homepage though it was just an effort to babbys first homepage
At least it doesn't have safebrowsing, pozzilla sync, and jewgle shity.
The only botnet left would be that OCSP checking.
icememe on the other hand have pocket/reader/hello and that damned pozzilla market place because it's just another lazy port rebrand for GNU/Lesbian so it's gets its GNU branding

the good stuff in palememe is you can control which ciphers to allow while most would allow weak and compromised ciphers even that shitty SSL.

It almost seems as if (especially for non-niche uses) computers are so easily pwned due to the asymmetric nature of security and the fact that there is an active 0-day market to aid a dedicated, professional industry of malware designers.
Although it is cynical, I could reasonably propose most active, networked computers have one or even multiple pieces of unwanted or malicious software running on them.
How long until botnet companies start making their programs attack other competitor's malware to ensure exclusive control of the host's data and resources? Are there known cases of this already happening?

This thread has been somewhat derailed. I'm interested in the (TOTALLY HYPOTHETICAL, FBI-KUN) possibility of bringing down the internet like OP was proposing. If done strategically it could bring about DOTR.

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Honestly, I think if you had a few million dollars to throw strategically into the 0day market, you could definitely commission a program or two to brick or shred most end-user computers or servers. Just make sure the delivery is fast and subtle (eg. not ransomware, use timebomb'd payload). If you buy something equivalent to ETERNALBLUE (like WannaCry did) then you can spread faster than the next new iPhone. Hell, if you are lucky enough to buy three unreleased and effective 0days and release them simultaneously, that would be amazing. (also, just buy access to botnet zombie server and spread them from there too)
It's not a total blackout but it would be fucking wild.
I saved my porn and cartoons offline and I have a fair bit of food here, so if the power is still on, I'm good.

tbh, women are the natural botnet

For someone like me who has no money, the power grid is my main point of interest (TOTALLY HYPOTHETICAL, FBI). On a building by building basis, taking out the power in a sophisticated manner is fucking easy: all you have to do is short live and earth together, possibly using a mechanical timer or electronic timer. If such a timer-controlled device were planted in a large number of consumer PSUs and such, they could all be activated at once, causing problems.
On a larger scale I'm not sure. Physical destruction of infrastructure is the only way I can think of.

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Back in the 90s it wasn't uncommon for animal rights activists to find their way onto military bases and cause a shit storm among the staff members.

If people seriously wanted to fuck the entire system up they could. It wouldn't take much effort but no one is willing to do so. Everyone has too much to lose so they don't fuck with the system. A seriously dedicated group of like 10 people could other wise fuck up everything. start in the center of a country and destroy a important infrastructure and then scatter in every direction and do the same in all directions. There's no way to respond to all those problems at once and the cities rely on that infastructure. All you would need is 3 days of disruption and you get riots and people starting to starve.

Years back there was a larper who talked about military exercises they did. One of them was a rebel militia doing this exact thing. He claimed the best tactic they thought of was attacking the repair guys as well. Pick up truck of guys destroys a central area and then kills the repair guys who come to it. Force them to send military with their repair guys and it becomes a lot harder to get the work done to fix it. Not only are you having to find guys close enough to fix it but you also have to have them be willing to risk their lives. It creates even more havok.

Someone should find those posts, they're a fun read. I don't think it would be a good idea to attack the system as it's already collapsing, but doesn't mean it's not fun to read about the systems own ideas of self defeat.

A benefit of infrastructural collapse is that its effects would be far more severe in nigger-infested areas. I have a strong feeling that white areas would survive any apocalyptic events.

citi rats would suffer, no matter white or black, people there have grown so dependent of moder technology they probably couldn't figure out a way to make a contained campfire to heat themselves up, they would probably end up burning everything around them the moment they tried.

Whites are not magical and are sure as hell not prepared for an invasion force. You would need a fortress able to withstand motor vehicle battering rams and even attacks from helicopters.

Don't larp that having pale skin and blue eyes will make you survive a collapse. Life isn't that simple and whitey has a target on his head from decades of anti-white propaganda. People will hunt and torture whites for sport. Same way they do in south africa.

Does anything matter when (((they))) control the tubes?

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only places with significant amount of niggers would suffer. you have no idea how well an ethnically homogenous white community can cooperate under pressure. as soon as 10% of niggers are introduced, social cohesion goes down dramatically.

under an outright attack, sure, more whites would suffer. but what I'm trying to say is that a simple outage of food isn't enough to kill us, and in the end, the survivors would be white, with the benefit that all the traitorous liberals would be killed.
Don't forget that at least in the USA, conservative men with guns and hunting abilities will prevail in an apocalyptic scenario. Cities are full of liberals, which decreases their survival rate.

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i want some motherfucker to do this with the cctv in london and other cities. i've heard all you need is a megawatt lazer

Niggawatt? I was talking about triggering the GFCI (a safety feature) in order to deny service to a relatively small area.
If you were talking about EMPs, I've never seen a model which works. There were some russian faggots who made a fake video about using a microwave oven magnetron to kill electronics, but it's not possible to do that.

i meant some low effort kiddos shooting lazer beams into surveilence cameras to disable them. not as severe as blackout

Fucking anime larpers.

It's not whites vs niggers vs spics. It's everyone vs whites plus hostile invaders like Russia and China making a land grab. This isn't a zombie movie, there's real power players to be made.

lel all of the shit rn is just part of the acceleration project

It's still possible to bring it down or at least block access to the majority of it at any given time. It requires knowing how it works on a basic level and gaining control of enough of the key points or having enough resources to block traffic at those key points. If you're interested take a basic course in networking to discover where all the flaws lie. Focus on learning how command and control protocols work.

This guy is correct it's possible to buy your way in. You don't have to be a super cracker to do this if you have money. The important things is compromising a large number of computers and ensuring they're patched well once you're in. Getting control is one thing, maintaining it is the hard part.

I feel the power grid is always the weakest link. Even with backups there are only going to be places with backup power for a few days or a couple of weeks at most depending on how much diesel fuel is laying around. Most of the stuff running equipment running the internet especially at the public level only has battery backup for a few hours-day at most. The cell phone towers won't last long either especially with all the people that just lost power at home hoping on their cell phones to find out what happened and remaining on them until the battery eventually dies. So not only are you denying power to the public you're causing a flood of traffic to large websites and social networks too.

The ideal situation would be multiple lone wolf style attacks at key points along the powergrid. The goal would be to cut off the power plants from each other as they all serve as backups for each other. Cut enough links between these and things start to naturally brown/blackout. Study the Northeast Blackout of 2003 and image doing it on a country wide scale. I'm convinced a team of 10 people could take down a large portion of the North America powergrid if they coordinated well and did enough recon. The best part is you can probably do most of your damage in remote-semiremote areas that aren't well guarded. At worst you're dealing with some cameras.

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none of the power stations are guarded. There's never any one trying to attack them so they're left alone. Most people don't even know where they are.

Would be fun to see someone trash a hydro plant. Just kamikaze into a dam and BOOM city wrecked below. Crisis to deal on top of power supplies.

This was true until 9/11. Now most powerplants of significant value are guarded by in-house security firms and they usually hire former military. Usually they are armed with AR-15s or at the very least pistols.

Attacking the plant itself is doable but much harder than just fucking up all the powerlines you can. Most of the major lines run through very rural areas so it'd be better to attack them. It takes them hours to get a team to respond to fix the problem. Disabling it may be as simple as cutting a tree limb. Low risk, easy to attack, and does the job just as well as taking the plant offline.

Another point of attack would be the railroad. If it's a coal plant you could block the tracks around it and prevent any new coal from coming in. They never have more than a few days worth sitting at the plant itself, usually not even that much.

fucking with power cables is never low risk. It's high risk as it can kill you with 1 fuck up.

It's lower risk than attempting to disable a power plant with armed guards and workers swarming all over the place at all hours. Get creative, there are plenty of ways to disable a power line without touching it.

Theoretically Why not target transformers? If you target a few ones in a grid can't you knock it offline for an extended time? The goal is to disrupt the grid by kicking them out sync right? But what if we took the approach of never letting power reach the average Joe in the first place? Hell, if you could take down quite a bit of the Pacific and Atlantic grids that way (not sure about Texas interconnect grid).
Theyve only partially decommissioned the plant near where I live. Considering there is like one guard on station for 8 hour shifts. I don't think it's too hard to disable him and fuck with the system)

Oh, no, not AR-15s!? What overwhelming firepower! And in the hands of a bunch of pudgy, balding ex-mil guys who spent their hitch in the motor pool or, at best, as MPs, throwing drunken soldiers in the brig for smacking their wives around.

That's some Delta Force shit, guize.

Society has worked fine without the internet for millennia. Even now, if you take it out, it will once again slowly adapt.

hence why we needed laws to break up their monopoly, but freetards thought NN was the problem

I've been saying this for years.

Most have legit M4s
It is when you're facing 2-5 of them and you're the typical Zig Forums autist
They can still hit the broadside of a barn with little issue. Everyone in the military does live fire training at least a couple of times a month and a lot more often than the general population.

Be my guest and attempt to get by them. Please live stream it so we can all watch you fail.

It'll slowly adapt but it going to cause a lot of chaos in the meantime. If you could take down internet normalfags will be going insane from having to deal with reality for the first time in a decade. A lot of things like shipping in food, the stock markets, and utilities depend on it to function now without good backup plans. There would be rioting in the street.

Take out the power and all those problem are magnified. It would be great and the return to pre-industry will weed out all the normalfags and NEETs almost overnight. I can't wait to see it happen.

Those individuals deserve to riot and starve to death. Humanity has existed without the Internet and will continue to do so after the worldwide Internet infrastructure dies due to some worldwide catastrophy.

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Thanks for the bump

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What sort of research would this hypothetical lone wolf want to do? Read up on public engineering docs, the history of the grid, etc.? Would some civil engineering education help?

Any good books in particular?

Probably just lookup the layout of the power grid and where the most important relay stations are. Pretty much the whole US power grid is centralized in a few locations. Texas seems to be the only state you wouldn't be able to take down by EMPing the rest of the country. I think the US government may have caught onto the vulnerabilities, so me have to do it before the end of the next decade or two.

Ever hear of TV? Radio? Pulp magazines? People haven't faced naked reality in the wealthy countries for at least 80 years. Even the newspaper is just one more entertaining escape for many.

Why bring down the web? How will I play video games and watch anime?

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Through some different protocols, obviously.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_flare
Couldn't we just try to emulate a solar flare? That would surely wipe out the infrastructure of the internet and more.

Hey, that's an interesting idea. Let's work on a project to make it happen. You figure out how to generate 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Joules of energy, keeping in mind that the Tsar Bomba yielded 1,000,000,000,000,000 Joules of energy.

I'll design the logo.

Don't worry user hams already have several kinds of ultra low to medium bandwidth worldwide Internets going. What you should be worried about is a media cabal monopolizing consumer "internet" connections in order to curate your infospace. I say this as an opponent of the late supposed Net Neutrality rule, as a Ron Paul adherent.

Even if owning an operating radios is eventually banned people will continue to own and operate their own equipment, and as affirmative action chugs along the monkeys opeating the dials on the broadband intercept receivers won't be able to keeo up.