Writing ITT because i have exhausted every other option to find the answer. About a month ago, the verizon wireless network (cdma) 1x,3G, and 4G LTE started blocking all VPN connections after one minute and dropping the data connection. You connect with whatever vpn app, t-oh-are included and its vpn, the connection remains active for one minute, then the connection is dropped and the data logo on the notification bar turns gray and disconnects. About 10 seconds later the data connection to the phone returns and the vpn will connect but again only for one minute and the cycle continues. I have googled and found many comments with people having the same issue but no fix. Also spent 4 hours on the phone with verizon tier 2 and shit tier 3 support. Also nothing, they claim its my phone, yet the same problem happens on 8 different devices on 3 different verizon networks in 4 different tower locations and they refuse to admit it is a network issue. So my question is, how am i able to use a vpn on the verizon network now??? Inb4 use verzions paid vpn. What options do i have? Let us not forget when verzion blocked 4cuck from its mobile network in the past. This problem has also been reported across the entire verizon network, not just the mobile network. Please forgive me, i dont have the means and computer to traceroute and do real research on the issue.
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They can block competing VPNs if they want to. If you don't like it, you'll have to switch providers.
The internet is getting split up. It's still happening.
Asked the same question on 4cuck and this happened.
Now, the real question is, how do we create a network protocol that is both secure, and undetectable to network sniffing and port blocking.
Looks like i will have to switch carriers. I cant stand this splitting up the internet bullshit. I blame this guy for wiping his ass with Net Neutrality. Ajit poop in the street Pai FCC
This is the attitude that brought technology to its current absolute state. Bullshit should be complained about, not defended on the grounds of muh free market.
You should blame Obama for allowing the DNS servers to be controlled by ICANN. ICANN is carving the internet up. Net neutrality bullshit was just another step they had to take to get it to the point of actually starting to carve it like a goose.
Regular vpn apps on droid wont work, tor doesnt work, i2p didnt work, none of the above work when tethered to a test pc. Fuck Verizon and fuck the FCC. Im open to try anything at this point. On a side note, im going to burn all of my verizon device =} Back to GSM i go
It's not a free market is are no other providers in the area, and that's the case for a majority of the country.
I didn't say I agreed with it, I just stated a fact. The FCC gave its approval for this kind of activity.
Most people have a choice of cellphone carrier, though. I live in bumblefuck and there are no less than nine. Verizon, Tmo, Sprint, AT&T, a local carrier, and at least two VNOs.
I just told you, it's not a free market if there are no other providers available, and for most of the country, that is the case.
Not if the service is sub-par. If someone is paying $50 or $200 a month for their phone service, and they can't connect to 4G at their home, or calls are dropped at their home on a regular basis, that's not service.
Try not using phones
You are correct. There is a no such free market for mobile data in my area. Plenty of carriers to pick from yes like the other mentioned but there is only one signal/tower for this area. See the 3G logo at the top of my posts. 4G is -110db or less and not usable. The GSM networks are a a wee bit better but dont have the mobile data back bone my current network has.
According to you, not the governing bodies.
Is there some municipal law or contract preventing other companies from building their own infrastructure?
In my area yes. You have the water tower in town with 1xrtt and 3G on verizon and Edge and 3G on GSM. The only spot in this area able to hold a cell site high enough to be of use. No towers are allowed to be built in this half of the county. Muh sunset and scenery. So yeah. Laws and building codes have prevented other carriers from providing a usable signal here. So again im left with a great signal on 3G as my only internet connection and i cant use VPNs or whatever else they see fit to block because they are chopping it up and blocking what they dont want to provide.
How is a motley of laypeople supposed to design (and manufacture) delphic x86 CPUs or create gigantic real-world infrastructures (in the case of an ISP). Is anything stopping us? Ostensibly no, but if you weren't a parochial libertard, you'd understand why the tech industry has had their cocks up our asses for so long. Clearly you can no longer feel the dick up your ass; faggot.
Cool screeching, but I never implied support for any of this. I asked a simple question that answered. I don't live in Ameriburger so all I know is the FCC gave the shaft to the Obamanet.
Mullvad on OpenVPN works for me :^)
Except wireless data is regulated differently and generally is given more leeway than wired data. On the flip side, even if Pai wasn't running things, they still may have done this, hoping that they could call everyone who objected pedophiles (that's the only reason someone would use a VPN, right goys?).
Sorry, it's just that there are so many rabid libertards here; it's hard to tell sometimes. My bad.
Most cable and telephone companies have a deal with the cities and counties to be the sole providers of service and it's usually balanced by providing for repair work on infrastructure that the city or county would otherwise have to cover.
A fucking swedish vpn for 5 euro bucks a month kek
Anyone with verizon isp having this problem?
it wouldn't suprise me if android was at fault here not verizon.
openvpn on android has always been iffy. drivers could be crashing, google themselves could be fucking with it, power saving features, a lot of things. the only way to know for sure is to try it with another phone or a hotspot. it would suprise me if they were blocking vpn traffic on hotspot devices (not phones, dedicated ones). Verizon also sells home 4g internet, which is stupid expensive, but again it would suprise me if they would intentionally block that considering how much money they would rake in if you use the hell out of it.
It's decent tbf, I use XMR to BTC then pay with that.
i mean what does verizon really care if you want to use a vpn and pirate that 20GB pixelshit gayme and pay $200 in data to do it as long as they don't get shit for it.
wait is op using a paid vpn or is he crying his free vpn doesn't work??
if whining about getting what you paid for with free shit vpn go fuck yourself op.
if your paid vpn doesn't work i suggest trying a different vpn. or can run openvpn on a vps for $5 / mo and pipe through that. they can't ip block it. not difficult.
Can someone break goodbye dpi down for me? I thought I'd be ok with an SSL VPN assuming the IPs aren't blocked and dnscrypt but chinks and ruskies are saying that the ISPs can still MITM. Is it true? What does goodbye DPI do exactly?
Only asking because of that senate bill that's about to go through which will basically require identity verification to access social media or other sites.
OP, are you using a phone with stock rom, or a custom rom? I have a phone that's rooted and flashed with lineage, and the vpn app I use was connected consistently for an hour with no drops on Verizon's lte.
Move.
Are you going to pay me?
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Try setting your phone up as a hotspot and then use a vpn on a laptop or desktop if you have a wifi card / dongle
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Okay, I'm outta this browser discussion board.
Regulations are probably to blame.
Go back to 4/pol/ you colossal loon. OP's problem is directly a fucking net neutrality problem. If the net neutrality existed, then Verizon wouldn't be allowed to fucking discriminate against VPNs and OP wouldn't be having this problem.
download orbot and use obfs4 bridges
They really are. Companies like comcast and verizon probably lobbied your state to create barriers to entry for competitors. They usually also lobby your state so that you can't have municipal broadband in your town.
Most states have laws lobbied by ISPs that make it either impossible or not worth your time to have municipal broadband. There was actually a lot of success in the local city hall making their own broadband since comcast/verizon/att/whatever fucking sucked and clearly did not have the local residents' interests at heart, and the ISPs really did not like that so they lobbied all the states hard so it either couldn't be done or wouldn't be worth the effort. A lot of states have outright bans but in california for instance there is just a clause declaring that cities can make municipals ISPs but if a private ISP wants to move in they have to sell them (probably for less than the cost of making it) because "muh free market" or shit, even though this would destroy market competition, not improve it. FFS if your private service loses out to a publicly owned option, then you fucking deserve to lose. That's how the free market is supposed to work. The result is that even in California no one would fucking make a municipal ISP just to sell their hard efforts at a discount to Comcast so that they can fleece people.
IIRC there was some bullshit like that when Google originally wanted to roll out Google Fiber in San Francisco. Comcast and pals went ape and obstructed the shit out of it with red tape.
Use OBFS4 bridges on TOR and it won't be blocked. Are you encrypting your DNS? That might be how they are blocking your encrypted VPN. Try something like dnscrypt. Also stop using a phone faggot.
Simple: call their quit line and tell them you're cancelling service, because they use under-handed tricks to funnel customers, and that you will be switching to masterrace AT&T.
I haven't tried VPN over AT&T, but I know Tor and I2P work reliably. You could always try VPN-over-Tor/I2P if you control the endpoint as well.
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How much damage would detonating a 50MT nuke in the upper atmosphere over continental North America do to contemporary (((ISPs)))?
A world war would break out so pretty much every ISP.
Internet service provider fault tolerance would be the least concern.
Shouldn't have voted against net neutrality. Blame every retard who fell for trump's and pajeet's propaganda against it being bad because "muh obama did everything wrong".
Ask again, and stay there >>>/cuckchan/
We need solar planes bad.
Please learn the difference between "net neutrality" and "title 2" before opening your fat whore mouth again.
Use T-Mobile or MetroPCS
No, u
ISP create contracts to enforce monopolies in certain cites or even states. To go for a different provider, you would literally have to move to elsewhere. You are a kike shill.
lmao eat shit, shlomo homo
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GNUrilla P2P airship meshnet when?
LOL, reminder pajeet pai shills said this wouldn't happen? not even a month later and they're fucking shit up.
Cocks cuckification regularly hands data over to the NSA and FBI. It's unironically in the request forms on their website with shortcuts on the forms for the agents ease of use. Implying its often done.
Yep. We warned you that they will take everything away, but you couldn't get your asses up when it came to protest all those censorship laws.
It was obviously going to happen. The only reason why they wanted those rules gone is so that they could do what it prohibited.
Grab a cheap unmetered VPS and use it to tunnel you to your VPN of choice. Have the VPS run stunnel to listen over port 443 so it looks like a https connection when you connect to your VPN.
Well, you can always use satellite if you're desperate. Just make sure to read the fine print since I'm pretty sure they all throttle. The ones who say they give you unmetered internet (like Exede) are still liable to put it in the fine print that they will throttle the bandwidth speed after a certain amount of data transfer.
What censorship laws? The net neutrality bullshit? That wasn't the cause of it. What caused all this shit was the DNS being handed over to ICANN. If the US Department of Commerce still ran the DNS, none of this shit would be happening right now.
>pushing people away from their home soil Heimat
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Imbecile. Don't post on Zig Forums if you don't have an ounce of technical knowledge. You clearly don't understand ICANN, DNS, or net neutrality, and yet you have a strong opinion on it all.
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. I mean, literally:
Wrong. The lack if net neutrality is precisely the cause of it. When the ISP is blocking VPNs, that means OP is experiencing his ISP discriminating against select internet traffic. That's precisely what net neutrality prohibits.
Wrong. DNS root management has absolutely jack fucking shit to do with Verizon blocking VPNs.
Wrong, because ICANN has fuck-all to do with it. You've completely misunderstood how DNS works and apparently you haven't noticed that ICANN is not Verizon and Verizon is not ICANN, so when Verizon is doing a thing, it's sure as fuck not ICANN's doing, not to mention connecting to Tor doesn't even use the DNS, making ICANN completely irrelevant. But, if the FCC were actually enforcing net neutrality, this would not be happening now.
All of the shit you said, completely fucking wrong. Try not to be such a right wing idiot next time and do your homework before you open your mouth.
Where's your argument?
Boring. Net Neutrality had nothing to do with final delivery of content to consumers. All it required was the peering of AS networks to be free. That puts a lot of undue monetary strain on backbone networks that otherwise charge their clients the bandwidth and data used.
All of this crap started rolling down hill when DNS was trasnferred to ICANN. It's easy to conclude that it was the initial turd that caused this mess.
So what? Why would they have to be the same? The transfer of DNS authority to ICANN happened months before the first net neutrality debate and Obama's or the FCC's mandate to institute net neutrality. Peering was already an established practice among these businesses to help establish a partnership and grow each other's networks mutually. However, with individual consumers like Google, Facebook, Netflix, Amazon becoming the consolidated services that average internet users go to, the actual ISP's of these consumers have found it necessary to begin charging bandwidth and data usage fees in order to recoup their losses. This was all after DNS was transferred to ICANN. Not before. Correlate your shit. You could even go back to the High Performance Computing act of 1991 was the real piece of shit that ruined the internet by allowing commercialization of the internet thereby allowing bullshit like pornography, rape, murder, drugs and other undesirable social ills to spread through it. In my opinion, the internet would've been much better if it stayed as the NSFNet. Everything wrong with the internet is because it's being butchered after slaughter, and the slaughter was allowing a business instead of government entity to control domain naming services.
That's not what net neutrality means, unless you're talking about something else that became synonymous because burgers kept confusing different concepts.
I'm calling bullshit until you show evidence. If customers demant data, they'll get it one way (direct peering at IXPs) or another (via unnecessarily long routes). Unless those longer routes are unbearably slow, in which case the ISP isn't fulfilling its part of the contract with the user.
One still doesn't have anything to do with another.
1. What losses? Bandwidth is cheap.
2. For services that the ISPs' customers rightfully demanded within their contracts?
Welcome to 8ch, enjoy your stay.
Bullshit and FUD. Net Neutrality has nothing to do with peering, it mandates that an ISP is not allowed to intercept and throttle traffic based on its type and origin. As things stand, Comcast are allowed to throttle competing video services by inspecting the packets being sent, irrespective of their peering arrangements.
Wow. You really a total moron spouting bullshit without a clue.
This is called a "post hoc, ergo propter hoc" fallacy. Only idiots think this way.
Correlation is not causation, dumbass. How the fuck did you manage to learn the word "correlation" without receiving that lesson?
Just checked, I'm not experiencing this with my openvpn configs and openvpn android client, however it could only be time.
Net neutrality originated as an FCC rule that required AT&T to allow competing long distance companies use their lines. It's from this concept that net neutrality arrives. It has nothing to do with throttling of data from tier-2/3 ISP's to end consumers.
CTRL+F "peering", 0 results.
Take it to the press. Slashdot, The Register, and ZDNET should all be interested in this. Find a couple folks who are also experiencing this block so they can also talk to the news. Make sure to confirm it happens independent of IP, of device, and of account owner (ie. anyone with Verizon in your area has the same problem). Mention how it plays into the lack of Net Neutrality because it's important and that should help with the headline.
They won't roll it out everywhere at once because the odds of a large media shitstorm as well as the odds of a class-action will rise dramatically if they do. Instead they're going to go at it regionally, targeting people who are unlikely to pack legal clout or get noticed by media organizations, and quietly begin rolling it out by degrees while denying they're doing anything of the sort.
You recall that this was because Kimmo Alm, of anontalk fame, subjected the Verizon network to spoofed packet DDoS attacks and made it look like halfchan was trying to hurt their network, right?
Network Neutrality? More like Network BRUTALITY, amirite?
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It's the hacker way. They can take our politicians, but they can't take our tech. Where there's a will, there's a way.
The FCC website under Pai was flooded by a giant rash of fake support for repealing net neutrality. I found Obama listed there 4-5 times with the same copypaste support of repealing net neutrality as tens of thousands of others. But when negative comments started pouring through the server suddenly went down because it, uh, couldn't handle the activity.
you seem like one of those idiots that thinks regression or abstinence from technology is a reasonable solution for a competing 1st world nation.
Hide the VPN in a SSH tunnel.
Network guy here. You're all late to the party by about 15 years. AT&T and others block most real VPNs (not meme transport layer VPNs) unless you pay them for "business class". Same lines, same modems, it's 10x the price to disable the filters.
Networking is a fun thing to learn. I was a sysadmin when I was forced to dive in and figure out how to get around things like this.
Ultimately your ISP has a few options for controlling L3 and the easiest is to block tunneling ports. When I supported a large corporation we regularly had to deal with telling remote employees they couldn't access the VPN without some work. Work being either changing their Comcast/Verizon plan to a business plan, because business plans get to request certain things not be blocked. I recall comcast support was useless to even admit anything was blocked until I called the tech number registered with ARIN for the IP we were assigned.
If we couldn't change the plan to business the only other option was give them VPN over a non-traditional port like 21-22,80,443 where they couldn't really justify blocking traffic without violating their own TOS.
Don't listen to this guy satellite internet is truly suffering, I would know i lived with it for a few years
No you're the problem thinking you can just beg a multinational corporation that's stolen billions from the most powerful governments in modern history.
You're NAIVE if you think anything but MORE options are best for you. You live in the "land of opportunity", no?
I started an isp after trying to get Verizon in 1000s of locations that had no bandwidth. Even when you're the CIO of a $100b startup, you can't get them to break SOP.
Start a WISP, buy business fiber and resell to your neighbors, support a co-op or local isp and ask them to change a policy.
Verizon is likely blocking ports. Change yours to 8181 or 21, or use wireguard (likely nsa) or get an ipsec going.
Eat a dick, you insufferable faggot.
change isp.
Stop browsing Half-Chan and
Install TempleOS
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t. corpcuck
This was occurring on my iShit6+ back two years ago w/ all (((Verizon))) networks.
Chairman Kim, is that you?
this is what happens when you don't gas the namefags
verizon is crap