Its time for Zig Forums to rise up against the trannies. Lets plan something anons. Cuckchan /g/oys won't do shit. Its time for us to save Linux.
Fuck CoC
Isaiah Robinson
Ethan Sullivan
Lets larp as trannies, faggots and minorities and submit shitty code. When it gets rejected, let's blame them of racism and hate until the point they themselves get tired of CoC and finally remove it. Or let's start developing a new kernel. We can include redditors in development even if we have to. Lets divide teams into two, one will focus on kernel development and the other team will focus on developing an emulator to run linux applications in it. We have no time anons
Eli Reed
CoC added to your kernel in 3... 2...
Aiden Davis
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TIME TO ORGANIZE
What can YOU do?
Literally the easiest thing. Don't be a huge prick. Explain your concern for the future of software. Explain (in polite terms) that his maintainers are being whiny bitches and if this is a way to punish them then he needs to back down and take some more time to work out a future plan for handling disputes and handling succession.
This is important. Check LKML.org right now. What's this?
Look at the replies. Over there. On the left. Those names? You can view replies. It's threaded. There are maintainers that are not pleased. You can e-mail them and ask about how you can support repealing the CoC. Make it clear there are a lot of us and we want it gone.
Do not screw this up with autism. Don't sperg-out. Reach out with inquiries and try to connect maintainers who are unhappy.
I haven't been able to find a guest list for the current or previous Maintainer Summits.
Matthew Campbell
Start using and writing software for OpenBSD, 9front, or Haiku.
Lucas James
WE MUST RISE AND LARP, Zig ForumsFAGS WILL BE IGNORED NO MORE
Jaxson Roberts
Serious question here...
How do I convince maintainers to mentor me?
Do I've to show some code that I got potential or do I've to pay them to mentor me?
Caleb Smith
I don't think money's involved, and I don't think mentoring is a formal process either. As far as I know Contributors submit patches to the mailing list, and Maintainers are essentially veteran Contributors who are also responsible for actually applying working patches to the kernel code. The whole thing seems to be a rather messy ad-hoc system and I'm not familiar with all the details of how it works, but I guess if you contribute enough useful code and stay in contact with the mailing list long enough, you'll earn the trust of Maintainers. Things might be more complicated now though, what with SJWs openly trying to fuck things up.
Ayden Miller
.... that's not a terrible idea tbh
Mason Lopez
Tech won't do anything, open source communities are libertarians and libertarians are the most spineless cucks on the planet.
Gabriel Morales
I have a proposal: Anyone who disagrees with the kernels new COC call the whole operating system GNU or GNU+Kernel Not Linux or even GNU/Linux. RMS is likely these assholes next target too.
Dylan Morgan
This fag must be more than just commie to call the current state of OSS "libertarian"
Ian Kelly
Hey there, Qu Qu.
David Nelson
Guess again~ But seriously, this is a good idea. Calling it GNU and saying Linux is ;just' the kernel is what Linux deserves. We also need to mitigate how much influence the kernel has on the rest of the open source community going forward.
Samuel Bailey
I doubt they care about RMS.
Cameron Flores
Then you're a faggot.
Grayson Hughes
They've already gone after him once.
Dylan Richardson
I didn't know that. When did they do this?
Oh good, I'm glad RMS is against them too.
Ryan Kelly
Remember when the Libreboot tranny accused RMS of being 'transphobic'? Coraline was beating that drum too.
Anthony Cruz
Nice trips for the best/most sane solution ive seen thus far.
Julian Williams
[email protected] is the email, send your messages now. Make sure he knows there are many of us and that we are only turned off by faggotry of this caliber.
Julian Green
done. i was polite and to the point.
Josiah Wood
Good work user!!
Michael Lee
What's his real name, anyway?
James Gray
done
Jacob Jackson
create shitty bug reports / issues / pull requests and if they are not accepted complain and threaten to snitch to that fucking tranny.
Matthew Price
the plot thickens
James Sanchez
Wonder how sumg RMS feels right about now.
John Cruz
DELET THIS RIGHT FUCKING NAO!
Christian King
Insulting Linus is the worst thing we can do. It's human instinct to do the direct opposite of what someone attacking you wants you to do. That being said, larping as trannies and "people" of color and being absolutely nasty and ungrateful while the paint is still drying isn't out of the question.
Carter Russell
Btw how should I respond to the reddit argument, "It's not le big deal the CoC is basically just like don't be a dick xD"?
Kevin Carter
Tell them that they better prepare to be banned for being an ebul huwite male, because god knows that has happened every other time a project took the CoCk.
Luke Phillips
TALKING DIRECTLY TO THE WATCHMEN READING YOUR EMAIL
Holy fuck do I love RMS, good God. hello you glowing fucks, protect the constitution you took an oath to uphold, shitbrains
Godspeed to all of you who can code. I'll continue to evangelize FOSS as best I can.
Landon Hill
Corey, I think.
Henry James
You don't give the commies a single inch, or they'll take a mile. All they want to do is get their claws into other people's projects and ruin them.
Lucas Gomez
This the first time you've ever seen an RMS email? I envy you. You're in for a good time.
Ryder Hall
Classic, quintessential slice of old school internet. I love it and miss it.
Brody Reed
Ryan Smith
Sooner or later, somebody just has to open fire on these people at conferences.
Carson Walker
I suggest using gas.
Jason Powell
This user does not condone these acts, and if anyone decides to follow these instructions he disavows responsibility.
:^)
Kevin King
Got one about making homemade Zyklon B?
Luke Green
This but unironically.
Luke Nguyen
When will people ever learn. Do not appease. Do not ever appease. You do it once, they learn that you're weak and will continue relentlessly. This isn't the end. You become like a sugar-water dispenser laced with heroine to these goddamn hamsters when you do. Get the CoC out.
Carson Price
Don't you mean simply target? They bullied rms on GCC because he made an abortion gag order joke years back when joking wasn't oppressive to women.
Caleb Reed
Sadly, no, but I do have some of this, and another with the "crystal" recipe, which I can't find.
David Gutierrez
Terrible idea, will just make them double down on their rhetoric and 30x as many projects will adopt their CoC.
Wyatt Richardson
...
Oliver Brooks
Fuck off cuck. Go try that "argument" on reddit.
Charles Anderson
Found it.
I shiggy you diggy.
Hudson Martin
kek
Brayden Green
Would adding a new clause to a popular license (or new license) to strictly prohibit code of conduct documents to be used on projects stop or hinder this madness?
Owen Lewis
What? You don't' want a coc? You must be a bigot! Saying "FUCK POLITICS" makes you a nazi!
Adam Williams
Fork the code of merit. It needs a few tweaks, but it's already bretty goob.
Gabriel Nelson
They’ll just come up with another attack vector. The only option is to be explicit about the kinds of ideology you forbid, just like they are.
Chase Baker
So do we have anything that
a) has support from the last decade
b) a gui that doesn't hurt my eyes fuck you openbsd
c) secure
Levi Jackson
i was just about to say you can't fire them because they don't work for linus as a company, then i reread it and you said "open fire", first, go back to pol, second, then they'll just ban guns too
Lucas Butler
you also can't put it in the git commit
Justin Davis
GNU is CoCked too
You know what to do.
Eli Williams
good idea but then it's not free software so you've already alienated all the free software purists and everyone who likes permissive licenses, so all you have left is people who care more about anti-CoC than free software
Ayden Wright
STOP GLOWING CIANIGGER
Landon Thompson
Stick a gun up your apathetic subversive asshole.
John Gray
wat?
You can rice BSD just as much as linux.
Brody Reyes
I'll make the logo.
Jaxson Jenkins
This is good time to learn how to use OpenBSD or NetBSD because Linux can get even more cucked as the result of this CoCk.
Isaac Price
I think there already is one.
Hudson Cruz
The only problem I see is that hardware manufacturers are submitting their kernel patches to linux, and even that grudgingly. Some of them are blobs too so they can't just be stolen. If we all started using openBSD we would only have community made hardware support and that's a lot of difficult unpaid work, even to just steal linux's CoCslapped efforts. But I would happily mess around with openBSD even if I don't use it as my main right away.
Jacob Thomas
ARCHIVE EVERYTHING RELATE TO THIS TOPIC
Christopher Cruz
Do you have a good example to use?
Owen Smith
This is a good opportunity to redpill people about their hardware. I don't mind if we don't have wide support for hardware as long as I can run the OS on something that is FOSS all the way down and isn't pozzed from the factory.
Ryder Jackson
Long-term solution to regain control over our tech: only buy unpozzed hardware, and learn to write device drivers. Here's a nice intro video for device drivers on OpenBSD:
youtube.com
Gavin Jones
Original poster of that comment here with an addendum. Keep circling the message. Don't be afraid to post to other forums. The allies are worth it.
Learning To Code
I realize that not everyone here knows how to code or has actually done any serious projects. But it's clear that the only chance we'll have to stop the tide of whiny JavaScript kiddies is to establish a new regime of open source developers who both know their stuff and contribute enough that our opinions carry weight. If anyone had any doubts that you can program, or you want to learn more, we need to establish a regimen to prepare you and offer support. Realistically, most people here will get bored within a week without support and give up. Not anymore.
I will creating a place we can support each other to learn as well as share information. Threads are great for general discussion and directing a mob, but we are quickly entering the phase where finesse is more valuable.
Let us provide mentorship and coordination. Let us build a fraternity of Zig Forums programmers who can watch each other's backs while contributing to FOSS. Let us work to retain our enclave from invaders.
I am taking suggestions for chat protocol to use. What would you guys prefer? I have been eyeing Matrix, but I can fall back to IRC or something if it's easier. I know a lot of people are on Discord, but would like to avoid that for many reasons. Please reply with your preferences and I will work on getting things up this weekend.
Providing Alternatives
This is a two-front issue. On one hand, we have people who are absolutely convinced that they need a CoC. There are already a number of alternatives out there, written by those who don't want politics running rampant but want to provide a simple set of guidelines. They are far less political and have tighter wording. If we can decide on one to push to CoCsuckers then we might be able to loosen the grip of the current cancerous one and turn the tide back a little. It's not ideal, but it's a step in the right direction. I don't think anyone opposes a CoC; we oppose ones that leave projects open to complaints from endless whiners who have a victim complex.
On the other hand, we need to actively promote the benefits of meritocracy. I would like to write a piece similar to this "Anti-Meritocracy Manifesto". Except Manifestos are for commies and psychopaths. We will write an oath of values for people to pledge to hold themselves to, not a mandate telling others how to live their lives. It will provide a public declaration of opposition to the values of the socialists.
Time To Get Political
It's time to fight fire with fire. You need to learn how to play the politics game. When you start out, keep your cards close to your chest. Build political capital. That just means other people trust you to act in good faith. Do it by acting in good faith without taking a direction stance on issues. It's easy to want to have an opinion on everything, but a little restraint goes a long way in politics. Play the game. Make allies. Isolate enemies. If we play our cards right, we can easily divide and conquer.
The key thing to remember is that we fight to disarm. We fight so that we may supplant the socialists, not become them. Tyranny begets tyranny, but we can break the cycle. Never forget that you need to be good at hammering nails to become a carpenter, but the best carpenter knows when to step aside and use another tool for the job. We make war so we may see peace, not so we can go to war.
Who's with me?
As said, you need to go looking for issues. Their issue tracker is here:
bugzilla.kernel.org
Alternatively, just e-mail a maintainer (if in doubt, hit up one of the guys against the CoC on the mailing list like Adam Borowski, Rene Herman, or opal hart) and explain that you are interested in contributing and that you'd like help getting started. Ask if they need help with anything or know of any good beginner tasks and could help you get started. Simple as that. See what kind of response you get and if you don't like it then move on to the next guy.
I'm hoping we can compile a list of helpful contributors to ask, or possibly even get enough of our own guys in there that we can just recruit directly. For now, we need an entry point, so ask around. It's fishy if we all ping the same guys, so try to spread it around.
Sebastian Sanders
retroshare is pretty nice, it's distributed and tor enabled. Matrix still needs to be hosted somewhere and is therefore vulnerable.
Here's my retro cert, you'll need to post yours too for me to add it before we can connect (I'll only add a tor node)
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Cooper Brown
More people will adopt their policies of sympathy, might as well open fire on our selves. It's important to remember that this fight is purely ideological, so in game theory terms *tips fedora*, they are fighting an infinite game. It's important that we do the same.
I'm not claiming we have to stoop to their levels and employ Alinsky like tactics, but some level of intelligent subversion is needed from our position.
Dominic Ross
This. We need some kind of Tamiment Library to document the sins of these demons.
Jaxson Bell
Stallman just came out and called the COC retarded. So not quite as cucked as Linus at this point.
Austin Mitchell
Politics is a waste of time in this case. We're not fighting against tranny cocs and no-code SJWs, but against corporate influence in GNU/Linux which has been getting worse and worse. Social justice is just a front, it's always gone hand in hand with big business. This is a coup, plain and simple.
The best thing we could do is organise a small community around another OS and collaborate on simple projects.
John Edwards
Looks like OpenBSD is very easy to install and use (It's no gentoo or even arch), you can get to an x desktop in only a few minutes with only the regular install media and without having to know anything. After that you just install the window manager you want and some programs. Thanks to its interesting ports system it could enjoy the same type of success Arch did because of the AUR. It already has cool shit like Blender, Krita, and even Godot which is a rapidly upcoming opensource and excellent alternative to the unity engine (it's also under the BSD license incidentally). Basically you can develop a modern game all on openBSD right now. I think if we were going to rally around something it would be the best bet. It really just needs people to get interested and excited about using it and improving software availability for it.
Daniel Harris
The best thing you can do as a project leader is to just ban them without any discussion. Or better – shadow ban.
Jonathan Nguyen
That won't make them remove it. If you've implemented a COC you're already too far gone to care about code quality.
Christian James
Then they'll just have a tantrum that you silenced them.
Tyler Harris
hence shadowban
Justin Mitchell
We can absolutely fight back, but we need to build a group that can actually code dedicated to the proper ideals.
Brayden King
So?