Year of the Hurd Desktop When

He's memeing. Nothing can be done about this.

RISC V asm is a joy to program in comparison to x86_64 asm.
As you said, it's also open, and it's coming as a "thing", what with lowRISC and SiFive, which could help to popularize a new OS on.

Shut up CIA nigger. When there’s a will there’s a way.

Yeah man the triumph of the will really worked out well last time.

I’ll shove my will up your anus.

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I’ve never heard of lowRISC or SiFive, thanks for mentioning them. Maybe this is the answer. Would the project be hosted on gitgud?

Don't be that guy

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I wonder who is behind these posts??

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9front just ported the entire device tree from OpenBSD's kernel.
Tbh OpenBSD and 9front would both be pretty good choices for a commie-free OS.

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Yes, that's pretty much what it means. You don't need to write the drivers yourself.

My idea was to just have a group that had no code of conduct act through an intermediary to the Linux team. The intermediary would never break any CoC, and will allow open communication among those who participated in this group.

Tldr:
Rule-breaking anons organize and present as a rule-abiding contributor

First of all, checked
What you call baggage, the rest of the world calls features.
It will be hard to take the place of x86 without covering the past use cases.
"Eventually" is too vague to plan around it or help in any way.
You're mixing morals and tactics, that doesn't work.
And by "objectively" you mean "in my mind"

I have a little proposal: Anyone who disagrees with the kernels new COC call the whole operating system GNU or GNU+Kernel Not Linux or even GNU/Linux. RMS is likely these assholes next target too.

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RMS is immune to being publicly shamed (parrot sex, etc.), so he'd be next to impossible to black-mail. So I hope they do try blackmailing him, and fail.

RMS is a pseudo-communist, but the FSF as a whole is not.

You are a pseudo-faggot, minus the pseudo.

I'm all for helping the HURD, but we need to discuss if it's design is actually viable.

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I'm mixing morals and action. Morals that you do not act on, aren't.
If you wish to use deceitful tactics to realize your intentions, go right ahead, and good luck to you when you notice that you have become no different than them.

By objectively I mean "in the mind of anyone that is sane". I'm not even pushing my political ideas with any of what I said.
It's just that all of the groups mentioned have proven to be a huge detriment to western civilization from the second we let them run rampant.
Personally, I think there's a good deal more that have harmed civilization through their existence, but none of them have done it openly enough to prove that point by simply reading a newspaper.

RMS is old-school lefty/pol/. But that's still better than being a fucking SJW tranny.

They'd have to use a different tactic, but RMS isn't invincible.

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Too bad Hurd is pretty much completely dead. Pretty much no mailing list posts since december 2016.

Them digits!

This is easily changed, user. And it's Mach 3 that is the main problem here. The HURD is actually the servers that run on top of the micro kernel.

You need to get better at trolling if it's your job, spook.

Wrong. The vast majority are leftists.

Mach isn't the problem, lack of developers is.

Mach IS the problem. The HURD is just the servers running on top of it. All the problems with the "HURD" are really problems with Mach 3.

Nope.

Looking at Guix and Guile, Hurd would get CoCed harder and faster than Linux. The only solution is a maintainer who simply refuses to play along with this bullshit, but such a person would have to be a chad who is not thirst for vagina.

Wrong. The vast majority leave their politics out of their programming.

Hmm... So my paedophilia might a positive thing for once.

Thank Gnu

I love how RMS interjects at every chance he gets.

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Wait, how functional is hurd right now?
Can i shitpost with it without having to run everything through emacs?

no.

This. The HURD works, the linux drivers are ported and the init works, the only problem they had was the micro kernel hence viengoos and the endless purity (death) spiral/development vortex that sank the whole thing to begin with.

I used to have it installed on one machine but I never really did anything with it. Mostly was annoyed by the lack of documentation for writing translators. There was some guy who wrote a nice tutorial in french and was going to translate it but i don't think he ever did.

I think technically you should be able to shitpost from Hurd.

Maybe I should try it again. I still have the CD and the machine.

That is what he says meanwhile the creator of the code of conduct rants on Twitter about white people...

Why do you not want to admit what the code of conduct really is all about? You can see it. You can still be a communist if that's your thing but at least have the decency to call these kinds of people out. They are turning real socialist and human rights movements into a parody of themselves. Have some standards.

You mean this one? contributor-covenant.org/

The people behind it already tried banning Opal maintainer from his own project for political views. According to the new CoC Linus would have been kicked out from his own project decade ago. Pretty ironic if you ask me.

As far as I know there are no widely used microkernel based operating systems for desktop purposes, so I'm very doubtful.

Update:

Managed to clean up enough to be able to comfortably use the machine it can actually run on. Found the cd but the installation isn't fool proof so might take a while.

Wasn't there interest in porting Hurd from Mach 3 to seL4?

As I already argued above, it's not about banning people whose opinion I don't like, it's about banning people that have clearly contributed to the decline of western civilization.

There was. There were also concerns about L4 model not being fully suitable. Also the micro kernel used was really not the biggest problem with the development.

Don't repeat the left's mistake. We gain more from unrestricted, unfiltered communication than they do, so there's no need to outright ban commies and normalfags if you already have right-leaning contributors speaking their minds.

People symphatetic, especially those with strong opinions about freedom (overlaps a lot with people interested in GNU and such) would probably not like a censored forum even if the censorship was directed at the people they are politically opposed to.

Minix 3?

That's the exact same shit.
It's not about banning anyway, it's about if the contributed code has merit on it's own.
That's all that matters in the end.

One's an objective measure, based on historical observations. The other's purely subjective.
And the problem isn't the code (though I doubt a severely mentally ill person could code well), it's that if they manage to get enough seniority, they'll be hard to impossible to replace and therefore be able to take the project hostage to some extent.
Long march through the institutions and all that. Better to nip the chance in the bud.

My IDE drive is broken so I guess it won't happen today. I'll try to hunt for a working one tomorrow.

GTFO

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Specifically, the Hurd isn't the micro kernel. The kernel is Mach. The HURD is basically servers that run on top of Mach not mitigate some of the drawbacks of micro kernels. It's not a hybrid kernel, technically, though, since the servers are not part of GNU Mach per se.

to mitigate*

The HURD and GNU Mach are the only multiserver microkernel that I know of. The main drawback to the basic idea is that even though the servers would, in theory, reduce the performance deficit of a micro kernel, it adds nearly an order of magnitude of complexity.

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If we want multiple server processing, should we just use Dragonfly BSD?

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Isn't Dragonfly's kernel a hybrid?

That's the paradox of tolerance. If you're not intolerant of the intolerant, you end up creating a less tolerant community.

And Coraline Ada is the most intolerant person in all of this. And this is HIS Community Covenant.

I agree. Which is why SJW must be purged.

That’s a load of crap.

I've heard SJWs say that shit a lot.

Can someone give me the rundown of why we cant just use a regular hybrid kernel? Why do we need all these servers running on top of a micro kernel adding complexity?

soon

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Because when one person fucks up a driver it does not cause a full system take over / crash.

Imagine if you got a segfault in a program and instead of the program crashing your computer dies.

works for the BSDs

OpenBSD might not be real happy with a bunch of retards like us submitting device drivers ported-over from linux, until we learn how to do it properly. Both could definitely benefit from all the driver work, though.

Very nice. all pull requests come from the fork, not from the contributors to the fork.

You posted this to the other thread, and I agree. If a linux fork ever takes off, it should be renamed GNU Kernel, and forced-relicensed to GPLv3 (I am an attorney. it CAN be done if you send proper notice and require affidavits for rebuttals under a strict time limit). Then the RMS Interjection can famously be retired.

I tried to red-pill Stallman on the merits of private international contract law a while back, but the man who built Emacs and GNU pretended law was somehow harder than Lisp. His mindset is squarely based in "Freedoms" as opposed to Rights. Freedoms are granted by a monarch. Rights are unalienable from birth.

Another kid that wasn't around for Slashdot trying to deny the libertarian streak of the Free Software movement. You'll turn 30 someday, and have an opinion that matters. Until then, adults are talking.

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Where does a pajeet go to learn this kind of thing?

looks like I was wrong. They want contributions.
openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Diff
openbsd.org/report.html
openbsd.org/faq/faq1.html#Support

Maybe they'll be a little pickier when they see all the goto's you've dropped in your packages, but it seems like clear-sailing, should you want to contribute.

Now, if you're looking for clues on how to write/port device drivers:
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:1897055865066dd57e6c38cc78c39ab566fabf2b
invidio.us/watch?v=W5qhWw07qpU
openbsd.org/papers/eurobsdcon2017-device-drivers.pdf

HTH

Thanks.. I guess. Gonna have to buy a copy of that book since that torrent is drier than Hillary's cunt.

No they won't. They are suspicious of unknown people and very picky about style. If your new and wanted to get involved in an OS then NetBSD is much more welcoming.

magnet link doesn't have any trackers by default. I downloaded from it, and am now seeding. If you can't get it from me, wait a while. I promise you that seeders exist.

Nice try. We trust Theo and any of his coding standards more than your Botnet. If not GNU, OpenBSD or 9Front is the path going forward. Your BSD is irrelevant.

It looks like OpenBSD might not like firmware blobs, so there might have to be some sort of separate tree for drivers that require them. This might actually benefit the project, because it can keep it's LoC count down, and facilitate (more) rapid development in driver space

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It's not my BSD and all BSD is irrelevant. No one gives a shit what you use. My point was Theo isn't going to take shitty code from random Zig Forums anons. No one here is at their level.
NetBSD has a much lower no bar and is accepting of devs just starting out. They consider themselves a tinkerers OS where as OpenBSD is much more serious. If they don't know you your code isn't getting in the tree.

OK son. We're gonna keep submitting code to OpenBSD anyway, if that's alright with you.

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OpenBSD makes a big distinction between firmware and drivers. They accept firmware blobs (that runs on hardware device), but they don't accept driver blobs (that runs in their kernel). See the first few pages of the paper linked at the end of this post , and also this video that goes with it and elaborates:
youtube.com/watch?v=W5qhWw07qpU

Pick one

That's a partial quote from Popper, with an interesting omission.

lel knock it off. Your not coding anything. I don't think xBSD needs any new logo's at the moment.

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Oh no, Theo might hurt my feelings. If only OpenBSD had a Code of Conduct, I would be writing so many contributions.

linux desktop 2019pozzed by identity politics/tech/ switched to gnu/hurd

That was the point, dipshit.

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no, it doesn't have. only freebsd and lincucks have a CoC

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