Tiling WMs

It's lightweight, that's about the only benefit for me, I fell for the tilling meme for few years then I realize I can achieve the same result in tmux with TUI softwares, GUI apps are just impratical when you split into quarter of your screen, half is sweetspot but you can achieve that with pretty much any floating wm/de.

is it more lightweight than say xfce? is it a good choice for toasters/laptops?

There's a good reason books restrict themselves to 70-80 characters per line.
Reading looooooooong lines is extremely uncomfortable.

Ofcourse, tiling wm is only a window manager while xfce is a full desktop environment, but both can work on toasters, if anything your browser might have a higher footprint than a full xfce desktop.

You can also use tiling wm inside xfce because xfce is very modular, I've used bspwm + xfce it's very comfy, save me the headache of setting up these meme panel bar.

Way more lightweight and I think it's the perfect choice for old laptops. I survived mine installing dwm with void linux.

I just open a terminal emulator and start tmux. White men use twm or icewm.

xfce is the least niggerlicious DE but using a WM, like icewm, is better option.

What is LXDE (or Lxqt, now)?

Actually that's done because oldschool terminals could only display 80 characters horizontally

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What's the point of a floating wm?
Tiling wms recognize a couple invariants:
- there's no point wasting space showing people their desktop. Maximize by default
- if you want to look at multiple windows at once, they shouldn't overlap (ie they should tile)
- if you want to look at a single window, then you want the rest of the windows to be arranged as tabs (the way my brother does it on mac is to drag windows off to various corners of the screen. This is actually sensible consider how shitty the mac wm is)
- if you really want something to float, the option should be a available, and the floating window should appear above the others
This is all true for i3 ofc, other wms may be different.
Fun fact, windows actually supports a tiling wm, in all but the fourth invariant. This is because tiling wms are superior.

Shit nigger, you've got me contemplating going i3 instead of openbox

Books are older than display terminals.

do it faggot

bspwm is superior. Has all the same functionality as i3, but requires way less micromanagement of tiling ratios and splitting.

Not programming books though, unless your book was made during the span of time after the creation of a language, but before the invention of display terminals

I used dwm for almost a year and it felt great. Everything other tiling wm felt too either too bloated, tryhard, convoluted, or generally blech.
Eventually went back to OpenBox for everything except my main which is XFCE4 which has a lot more CPU/GPU to burn. Of course I've set up dwm-inspired keybinding to close/maximize/iconify/whatever windows. XFCE4 also has tiling options as well so that's occasionally useful.
Completely agree with .

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It's not now, lxde use gtk and lxqt qt, you probably don't have choice because you are using tranny distro instead of Gentoo. And lxde is more lightweight than xfce because it consist of openbox, lxpanel, cpmanfm and some dependences like gvfs.

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I use Gentoo with bspwm, homo. Just saying that LXDE or LXQt are both more lightweight and usable than XFCE.

this seems like a meme

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The ultimate evolution of the command line.

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i've completely fallen for the tiling meme

what's the catch with using a tiling wm? it seems too good to be true

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You may wind up buying more monitors to do more things at once.

xahlee.info/linux/why_tiling_window_manager_sucks.html

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They're not as cool as floating wm's. Pic related.

What are virtual desktops?

>>>/emacs/
I'm actually pretty sure I made a post on there about golden-ratio.el and EXWM basically countering most of Xah's points, but I can't remember.

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what?

XFCE isn't lightweight

If you think anything more involved than ratpoison is bloat, no.

You can do all of these things in any WM

But are those WMs as lightweight?

TWMs personally give me a better workflow of moving between windows.

Tabs are against the idea of twms. If you want to look at a single window you should just temporally use the monocle view. Else you should just move the windows to another workspace.

It's not my desktop. I know it says scrot in the filename, but it's genuinely not. I use EXWM. And that picture is from DeviantArt.

Firstly, you could literally dismiss anything based on its aesthetic appeal. What I wanted to point out was how the headers were on the left-hand side of the window, along with custom images for the buttons on said chrome, whereas, with a tiling wm, you simply wouldn't have chrome. It's not evident in the picture, but FVWM has a lot of different behaviors for how you can interact with floating windows. I don't know what it's called, but there's one behaviour where the window will come into the foreground if you simply hover on it. My point is there's just a little more to work with.

Secondly, I didn't say floating WM's were better; just that they were cooler. It's utterly baffling how tiling WM's get the reputation of being rice-able when there's not even much to work with, unless you literally lobotomize the core utilitarian philosophy of tiling WM's to get retarded abortions like i3-gaps. So many of the presumptions about tiling WM's are just so absurd and ironic, which is why conversations about them elicits such dumb kneejerk reactions.

You can also render little modules which FVWM will draw in a box kind of like the old CWM desktops, but I don't have a picture of that. They're pretty cool, though. Besides Xclock and the typical suspects, I remember there being little modules for displaying system temp in a water bowl full of fish floating around and a clock where kittens played with yarn. Believe it or not, this is all very plan9-esque, and FVWM's the way to go if you want a plan9 desktop–although it is extended in XML and Perl.

Are you joking? Xah is literally certified baste, not to mention the patron saint of /emacs/. He's like the Asian love child of Piero Scaruffi and Terry Davis.

I can't bring up the logs right now, since it seems like the EmacsWiki is down, but I'm pretty sure he's banned from #emacs for flaming and spamming porn on the channel. Everyone on EmacsWiki and Reddit hates him.

people who use gaps need to be shot

I used to do that, then I moved to superior neovim, now my ctrl+b is bound to vsplit, terminal, make.

More room when you're writing the code, side-by-side when you're looking at errors, and you can use # to highlight from console and find in the file.

Vim 8.1 has terminals, so you can move back now

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Oh sorry user but is he acting like an average cuckchanner at least?

EmacsWiki (whose editor is an SJW symphatizer and deleted his twitter some time ago) was hacked user.

(not him) No thanks, the Neovim API alone is a godsent. Not having to sacrifice a black goat on a new moon at midnight when you want to change an option in another window is reason enough to stay with Neovim.
nvim_win_set_option({window}, {name}, {value}) *nvim_win_set_option()* Sets a window option value. Passing 'nil' as value deletes the option(only works if there's a global fallback) Parameters:~ {window} Window handle {name} Option name {value} Option value

It's better for having more information visible at once. Avoiding having windows on top of other windows can be inherently advantageous since there's no real benefit to that, you always want to either be able to see everything, or you want it maximized. Tiling works especially well with workspaces. You can use tiling bindings in some floating window managers as well if you want to, though. XFWM (the XFCE window manager) has bindings for that (and tiling WMs tend to have floating as well anyway), so if you use that already, you can just bind to something you think is intuitive and try it.

it's extremely useful if you are a lazy fuck like me. I am using i3 and it's great. The only problem I have is when I use Virtual Box but there are work arounds for it.

Personally, I tried for sometime and now I cannot change back. I am not a power user though. If it doesn't click to you, do not bother.

when I brief 4 months of Emacs (I am not using it anymore), he was my main point of reference for everything. It's a shame he had to work washing dishes because he couldn't find a job. Maybe having turbo autism is a serious problem.

I remember the good times when I was an UNIX noob too.

Not having a job and never leaving the house is my solution for that problem. Then again, that's how I solve everything.

They're comfy and simple.

I already maxed out my keyboard shortcuts with xfce and vim and am too involved to change.

Fuck tiling WMs. They break aesthetics and are nothing but a pain in the heinie

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how do you put them on certain workspaces?

If you using a tiling WM, you defeat the idiots who buy dual monitors.

What if you use a tiling wm on dual monitors?

Stay right where you are

I use i3, but as a floating windows manager. I set all of the windows to float by default. It Just Twerks™. Fight me faggots.

post screenshots

Why not just use fluxbox?

I did this once and it was awful.
Basically just causes unneeded clutter.

Why the hell aren't you using an actual floating window manager?

how so?

i3 is most integrated with the distro I use (Qubes) and does everything I need anyway.

What would it get me that i3 doesn't and how much more RAM would it use?

This is 2018 gramps, no one cares about RAM usage anymore

He's using Qubes though; that OS is very memory hungry.

Funny story, the Qubes installer is completely broken. I'm pretty sure it's inherited from Red Hat, so that's no surprise.

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I use it on my laptop so that I don't have to touch my shitty mousepad and have more space on my screen. Also it's easier to map a keyboard shortcut to every program tht I use.

left half is code. right half upper 3/4 is documentation. right half lower 1/4 is terminal emulator.

That's retarded, and I say that as a man who uses dwm. At least in i3, tab mode is essentially just giving yourself extra workspaces within the one you're currently on, since you can tile more windows within each of them.

You can tile inside a tabbed workspace?

yes

how

By just doing it

as a mac user whats the best way to get into tiling wms?

install gentoo

so you're lying, got it

never has this line be more fitting

so you're retarded, got it
i3wm.org/docs/userguide.html#_tree

holy shit i3 is amazing, thanks user

$mod+H for horizontal,
$mod+V for vertical
This is how you mix horiz and vert tiling as well, so you should know it.

Any way to switch tabs without having to switch through all open splits in the current tab first?

Can somebody help me with BSPWM?
Theses keybinds are really freaking me out.
Some of them is on sxhkdrc but don't work.
Some of them is not there but work.
I'm using this for 30 minutes now, and I can't even resize my windows. What's wrong?

you have to send USR1 to sxhkd if you want it to read your new .sxhkdrc

here is how you resize window
bspc node -z left -20 0
change direction and values according to your needs

yes, assign a keybinding to selecting a parent and/or mix stacking & tabbing

meant for

What's wrong with golden-ratio.el?

You spend 3 years learning keystrokes and getting used to mouse-less computing so that you can be approximately 10% faster when switching between windows. If you plan on spending most of your life in front of a computer (and let's face it: if you're reading this reply then you probably are), then it's probably worth it in the long run. It's sort of like how emacs or vim are harder to learn up-front but they pay dividends down the line.

How slow in the head are you?

3 years is a big exaggeration. By default there are some keybindings which you need to learn, most of them you want to change. Pressing ctrl+shift+whatever or other 3 finger combinations fuck with your hands.
It's true about the learning curve, to be able to use it to your advantage takes time, but that's also the case for linux in general.
I was a long time tiling wm user, but I've fallen for kde and haven't had any ambitions yet to replace kwm. A big advantage of using the keyboard, next to the advantage of not having to use a mouse, is that you'll learn to press both shifts, ctrls and alts to prevent crazy hand movement.

[citation needed]

is there any WM more comfy than dwm?

be a white man and use your right hand for your modifier keys.
It's how emacs stops being shit as well.
You have a right hand, use it.

pretty much what
and said, if your on a laptop then tiling wm's are much better, but if you have a desktop with a mouse, i prefer floating wm's or just a DE