Remember way back in 2010 when everyone on the planet was hyping HTML5 as the greatest thing to ever happen to the web...

Nothing went wrong at all it did indeed kill java and flash in all cases except runescape.

On one hand I no longer need to install Java and Flash, but on the other hand now web ""developers"" are even more encouraged to do what those two were used for.

You are the boomer cuck. Flash games are still going and better in every cases compared to goygle/android/ayyphone shit.

What the fuck did you just say? All web games have cute anime girls. You shittin' on that?

HTML5 is all about collecting cum via Web Anime Gaymes

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no just the shitcode

You don't NEED links to w3 for any HTML standard.

disable_polymer=1

Write XHTML5 tbqh.

YOU NEED THE XML namespace on the html element in XHTML otherwise the browser won't get that it's XHTML

This. It HTML was as strict as XML the web would be much simpler and browser development would not be in the hands of three entities because no one else can afford to keep up with the arcane mess that is HTML.

I can still remember Wikipedia, YT and all the others using XHTML back in the day.
(((They))) probably changed that for their pajeet employees.

There should have been a hard break when javascript started being used to manipulate html. The web as it exists now is a bunch of thin, one-time-use applications that load inside of a sandbox, with some limited client-side space to cache and do their work. I wish we could go back and design a new standard specifically for laying out UI and doing user I/O logic so we could all write webapps in an environment specifically built for it instead of this html+js+css shit we have now.

Http for this stuff was a mistake too; if I'm using a webapp, I should have a two-way pipe to my server to push/pull data without having to do special websocket things. Regular bearkly sockets are two way anyway, just unify all the socket i/o into one paradigm. I bet a lot of security vulnerabilities would just disappear if the standard didn't provide so many cliffs for coders to jump off of.

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The web mainly consists of text. There needs to be a standard for that. HTML or XHTML filled that gap of a universal text markup everyone supports and CSS is fast but one should only use it where appropriate (don't make tables via css just use that damn ).
One should refrain from using Javascript and keep it optional if even needed for anything.
You can do multifileuploads over HTML+CSS alone too. Fuck those faggots who develop imageboards and suck so hard at it.

no. web pages shouldn't be programs. they shouldn't even be dynamically generated. programs should be programs. programs are actually faster than a snail and have better security despite not being sandboxed (that's how bad the current web is). Also PHP is shit and unfixable, despite whatever your meme book might say

>don't make tables via css just use that damn
I really hope you mean "tables" as in "tabular display of data" and not using for layout.

Not long until it stops being supported

Come on mate, Flash games were fun but Flash was a pile of shit.

Kek no. What I'm saying is, is that you shouldn't use css grid or div boxing to achive what old elements like table were already doing.

Isn't it interesting how nearly everyone in their 20s thinks that?
Listen to and

Even back then we all thought flash was a pile of shit. You're missing the point mate, the flash scene was actually fucking alive

I'm aware php is shit, but there's no way you can say programs have better security than websites without sandboxing. If I send you a link to a site you've never seen before, it's probably ok to open it in a tor browser, but there's no way you'd run a random executable I linked you on the internet.

There's a market for on-demand sandboxed applications, regardless of people saying "the web should" or "the web shouldn't". My point is that it would be nice if we had technology specifically to fill this niche instead of gluing it onto a standard meant to format programmatic output.

What happened to vt102 terminals + terminal emulators? We had a universal standard that worked just fine.

While you could do fancy tricks to make HTML+CSS do almost anything, you can reduce bandwidth to your server by using javascript to just pull updates. While it would be nice if everyone strictly supported "optional" javascript for autists like me and you, the reality is they can pay half as much for a website that still reaches 90% of their customers.

Lets revive it :^)
wickeditor.com/

>wickeditor.com/
Hey that's actually pretty neato

Just imagine the billions of people who had their online experience ruined or withheld for all this garbage making the web completely unusable.

This is absolutely unforgivable.
The UN says the internet is a human right, so why haven't they persecuted the perpetrators of these terrible crimes against humanity and made them answer for the horrors they have brought to countless innocent people?

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When I was still underage I thought that idea was great, but I actually grew out of this idea of thinking, making the internet a human right is a retarded because its privately owned all the way down. The UN should've told people not to take the internet fucking seriously. All modern problems with technology come from people taking the internet seriously, all that's done is create tryhards and gave Google and Amazon validation for existence.

but i'd install/compile something from my distro. meanwhile web browsers are full of new RCE vulns every day.
yes, it's been solved for like 50 years now by the capability security model, not webshit or assdroid
you keep hinting at some sort of declarative programming for the web. what do you want, the entire website is a small config file that points to some data sources and has annotations saying how the data should be shown? nobody's been able to do this ever. it will be too rigid. you need full turing complete programming language to make real software for the time being
>wickeditor.com/
magaimg.net/img/6grc.png

what the fuck, that website it ever overrides ctrl+w, ctrl+q and ctrl+tab. FUCK YOU. FUCK palememe too for allowing this. fuck firecuck for making this a thing. i dont even have the editor open, just the front page

this sound like something they would have said in $CURRENTYEAR, so 2015 later, kiddo :^)
yeah fuck that. the internet is a product of what the consumers demand. if it's shit because they demand shit, they deserve to rot in it

That is just retarded.

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the UN says that everything is a human right. A prince on a pony for every little girl!
but weirdly no condemnations about the EU's take on democratic votes against it.

if you believe that even remotely, let me fuck up your UN religion by saying the UN is a product of US world domination strategy.

U dont believe me, check out walter lippmann, wilfred trotter and then noam chomsky to confirm that.

I don't believe this.
Having the website behind js makes no sense because the js alone is as big as the actual content (not ad banners which they get paid by; they don't have to pay for their hosting) on most sites.
And now think of all the extremely low end devices these days like smart phones, tablets and smart tvs.
All of them lack processing power, may come with substandard webbrowsers which may not even support js and may not be able to display the fucking words some retard thought would have to be loaded dynamically because they're soooooooo many.

the internet is a basic need just as shelter and food for the 21st century. the Internet should stop being shit sold by isp companies as a service and turned into a utility.

You sure? Those all still work for me, though I'm using cmd+w
It did freeze my browser for a bit though

we should nationalize internet and regulate it.

They make laws for it anyway, so this is a good idea because it's basically infrastructure.
ISPs don't lay out those cables themselves either. There are separate companies for that. The state could replace that middleman.
The sole reason the middleman exists is because they privatized them to begin with.

Shitty bait.
Might as well nationalize all the websites too, no point in free water bottles if the water inside still costs money

Roads and cars?

Electric poles and electricity.

Are you serious.

validator.w3.org/nu/?doc=https://www.youtube.com/

RIP.
Also I've not seen W3C validator links or icons in a while.

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That's cringy as fuck and I can't believe people actually believe this

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You just reinvented Xerox Alto or the Lisp machines basically.

Kill yourself you retarded cuckchan nigger. Day of the rope soon.

See how little your words changed my life? You understand what I'm saying right? The internet is a joke

should have >>>/reddit/ before anyone could reply. now this thread has aids

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It actually replaced quite a bit of Flash, but it lacks in some departments. There's no good software for making things like flash games or animations. You're stuck hardcoding it into JS and CSS3.

I'll get flack for this but I actually blame HTML5s open decentralized nature vs Flash for this. Flash had official tools by Adobe themselves for working with it. HTML5 is open thus they sort of expect other devs to include it in web dev suites instead and this has done nothing but make general web pages feel more copy+pasted than ever before with shit like Wix.com

HTML5 sites all look like corporatized pozzworks.