Unpopular Zig Forums opinions

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you could pick colors of the windows and whatever since windows xp and maybe even earlier than that

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Bullshit, not without changing registry values and completely fucking up your system.

That's their "high contrast" theme which has always been complete trash and unusable. The new dark theme is modern and nice to look at.

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lolwut. it's in the same window that you select your resolution, wallpaper etc.

True, but their visual styles are years ahead of what linux did

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This. The Win10 laptop at work won't let you type at more than 2 keys per second. You type in a sentence on the keyboard and it keeps typing for the next ten seconds for whichever program you are using. I don't call that "just werk"ing.

Lookin' good, Troy.

ITT: popular /g/ opinions

Worrying about CoCs is fucking retarded. They make no difference.

What Terry did was impressive but stupid.

I suffer from Windows 10's shit to this day, there's only a couple minor improvements over Win7 which I have at home, for one pinning things to the side in file explorer works much better. But the amount of downsides eclipse whatever few nice things it has, it's flat out BROKEN in many places as if it was some half assed open souce project. I am literally unable to change the default program for images and videos because Windows won't fucking change it, it does nothing when I try to change the defaut program. I deleted windows photo shit program by force and it still tries to open photos with that by default. The lack of borders in windows make it very hard to distinguish where the edge of the window is sometimes when everything is borderless rectangles in the window and behind the window, so I end up clicking the window behind and the one on top goes away. Some settings are often placed in very confusing locations or neutered so you can't configure things as well, the program links and shit in the start menu are like 5 times taller mobile-tier shit so it takes forever to find things from it, the OS doesn't open USB storage devices in the explorer when I plug them in so I have to manually navigate to it. FUCK

Minimalistic computing is not the end goal of my computing experience.

All the 'high security' OSs Zig Forums recommends (think OpenBSD, Gentoo, Alpine) suffer from a critical lack of developers and therefore many fundamental security issues are not identified and fixed.
Their most effective security feature possibly excluding Alpine, commonly used in servers is obscurity (which is valid).

bonus: an aesthetically pleasing computing environment is an important part of computer ownership.

It's not the jews, it's corporations. Those two things are distinct, and confusing them fuels your paranoia.

SJWs are irrelevant.

Also, that term has been heavily devalued due to Zig Forumstards over the past five years, just as much as actual SJWs devalued 'Nazi'.

Suckless sucks

Real unpopular opinion: Stallman is a software communist and doesn't stand for real "libre" software.

justify

Yikes. I've seen installations get hosed after updates because of the way Penumbra edits sys config files.

Luckily Win10 v1803 will have native dark theming.

That's where your wrong kiddo.

Are you retarded? The Window classic theme is the best thing MS did and they decided to axe it for their new soyOS. While you jerkoff to your babby's first theme flat shit, you can't even change the default system font or the bar without hideous hacks. Let's also forget that your shit OS didn't have multiple desktops until a few years ago.
By the way, GNOME 2 was way than anything release after 2000.

Realer Unpopular Opinion:
Free Software movement wouldn't exist if the concept of Intellectual Property wouldn't exist.

How is that unpopular if it's the commonly accepted position, and even the FSF says that?

Not me, nor anyone I know of. It's a shit reason to pick an OS.
That said, Linux is undoubtedly better for ricing.

Please explain.
I thin khe's a bit too hardline for my liking, but I don't see how he doesn't stand for 'libre' software.

You can have closed source without legal ownership of the code.

It does already, though. You can use the dark theme right now.

OpenBSD actually audits their code though, and rare distros are still working with Linux source, which has a lot of eyes on it.

The main concern in my mind for those three is who is maintaining the third party ports tree.

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Not unpopular, still bullshit.
"if the concept of [whatever] property did not exist" makes as much sense as "if the concept of triangles didn't exist"

That's on you

Daily reminder that Unpopular opinion threads are cancer because they validate opinions solely by their perceived popularity. It is a circlejerk claiming to be against circlejerks because criticism is discouraged in these threads. If you are too chickenshit to post your opinions in anywhere but hugbox threads, then maybe your opinion isn't worth listening to.

Faggots that exploit Zig Forums's fear of being botnet is what killed Zig Forums. Freedom of speech ≠ equality of opinions; Shit opinions are shit opinions. Taking (You) to last page.

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In another thread, OP also think systemd is good and secure

Oh, yeah, I love random updates that turn off my computer while I'm compiling something overnight that I can't disable. It's even better when those random updates then also proceed to delete the files I was compiling because Microsoft decided it'd be a good idea to force users to use their cloud and pajeets are too retarded to transfer files to the cloud before deleting them.
Truly, so much better than a system where I decide when to update, when to restart, and where my goddamn files are stored/when they are deleted.

So when something "infinitely superior" isn't superior enough - you use bash?
Sounds legit.

Should have invested that time in making the process automatic. Windows wastes more of my time do superflous crap I never asked for.
Terminal commandline is where it's at. Anything else is "for nigger cattle" T.Davis Press [F]

Writing your own software is the only way you will be truly free

The sites I make use so many third party javascript frameworks and other such dependencies that I'm not even really sure what data they collect about people, but I don't even care because it's easier to use a framework or google "how to do X in javascript" (and then someone on stack overflow recommends using a github repo) than it is to implement everything from scratch (like responsive design and single page application shit). I just use one of those generic "this site uses cookies" warnings and that's about it. I think it's okay to do this because it increases my productivity even if it's at the expensive of the users/owners of the sites I make for clients. The way I see it, your data is being collected and you're being tracked by every other site and service anyway, so this is just a drop in the bucket, so it makes very little difference to your privacy, but it makes a big difference to my workflow (this is more convenient for me). Oh yeah, and I like Google Analytics too.

expense*, not expensive
but you know what I meant

Making your own hardware and then writing your own software for it is only way to be free.

it's also a good way to waste your entire life needlessly reinventing the wheel when you could instead just implement what other people have already made and then build on top of that

In case you haven't already noticed, this is what software development is all about.
That's just building wheels with premade wheel parts.

I'm a software developer, dingus. And it doesn't involve doing everything from scratch.

Did it changes it's license to gplv3 ?

the only reason i run linux is for porn.

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I think that guy who nobody here likes said it pretty well; there are no wheels in software. Reinventing the wheel implies that there is something as idealized as a wheel, but what we have are a bunch of rectangular rocks attached to tree branches with vines and cum. That's what most of our current software is.

I'm pretty sure you've never developed anything more complicated than a fizzbuzz. That's why you think you don't need to rely on tools and libraries other people have made.

In the real world, there's none of this dumb "I'm gonna make everything myself" shit because there are things called deadlines and budgets.

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Shocking!

yeah go ahead and develop an iOS app on windows
I'm sure you can use Xcode/Interface Builder/iOS Simulator
retard

You can use portage or pkgsrc on fagputers, you know?

If you cannot understand all the layers of abstraction that your "Free Software" sits upon, it may as well by proprietary, and doubly so if you cannot understand the hardware.

Since around the late 70s, computers have become so complex that no one single person can be reasonably expected to understand them in their entirety, and even if they could be understood, none have enough quality, let alone freely available documentation.

To have freedom in your computing, you must reject modernity and either revert to an existing pre-microprocessor design, or create your own.

But that's the whole POINT of abstraction. It's good that you can drive a car without having to know how a combustion engine or transmission work. If all you did was memorize car stuff, how would you have any time to learn other things?

What about trains? It's a form of abstraction. You don't know how the engine works, you don't know the ins and outs of the train rails and the controls that change the tracks from one track to another.

There simply isn't enough time to learn everything.

When someone starts learning to program in Python, they have no idea how print works when they write a hello world. And you know what? That's okay. Just as long as there is somebody who knows how the foundational/infrastructure stuff works, it's okay that not everybody else knows it. As long as someone is maintaining the lower level stuff to keep higher-level developers more secure, it's fine.

If someone is concerned with CPU registers and assembly, how are they going to have the time and mental capacity to focus on more highly-abstracted problems?

People don't use computers for bits and bytes and registers and ALUs. People use computers to talk to people, pay bills, make websites, create neural networks, render simulations, draw pictures, watch videos, play games, write code, fill out forms, and so on. Without abstraction, we would never be able to solve the problems we do now.

Even if you developed your own operating system from scratch, that wouldn't make it perfect. You might have unknown security issues, so people could still pwn you, even if there aren't built-in backdoors.

Not at all. There is value in open source for those who cannot understand or expand on the source. Mainly, it can be audited by other people who know what they are doing.
If you are relying on a single person to audit the software, that's not a thorough enough examination. Different examiners will have different skills and knowledge.
Complicated software or bloatware is NOT proprietary. It's difficult to audit and therefore does not gain the potential security benefits associated with open source. There is a difference.

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Let's not be retarded and actually talk about Zig Forums-related things instead of politics.
Let's leave memearrow cancer to finally rot into nothingness as it should have happened almost a decade ago.

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This is true. However, sufficiently complex software is inherently difficult to audit, given that people who are extending or modifying each others' code are stuck in the bubble of whatever abstraction they happen to be dealing with. A good deal of security flaws come from cases where people are mistakenly reliant on another layer to provide the security features. What good are the many years of OS security research on a multi-user system when you can be pwned by a speculative execution flaw? Your compiler could be faulty too, or the library you were using, and so on... Programmers end up complacent and assume things are "someone elses problem". Features beget bugs, bugs beget kludges, and kludges beget yet more bugs. It's a hopeless cycle that has rendered the structure of computers closer to that of DNA, with all of its 'junk', than an elegant, planned system.

See above. TL;DR Specializing is all well and good, but it breaks down when developers fail to understand the connections between the layers. This is made worse by proprietary hardware layers on otherwise fully-Free Software systems.

If I need a team of highly skilled programmers to audit it or make a change, chances are they're not going to do it without sufficient monetary motivation - unless it's a small project with few users, or a big project with a sizable portion of users nagging the developers. The end result is often not that much different to being at the mercy of a proprietary developer... I can still appreciate that it can be forked or given to someone else to work on though. That said, many forks fail as the new developers struggle to grasp the complexity of the previous work enough to maintain it.

The cancer is terminal, you will be assimilated.

Nobody said that, you and many others like you immediately imagine that as a form of self defense because you get so insecure whenever someone threatens or criticizes your method of development, which is to glue together shitty bloated libraries and javascript frameworks resulting in a 4 GB cancerous piece of shit that has lag and latency and 10 second load times on high tier 2018 hardware.

New opinion: python is the next logical step from perl

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I don't understand what you mean by that.
Perl just seems dangerous. It's like a fucking rocket for better and worse, I don't see why anyone would use it for something which isn't a quick and dirty script. Python seems much more controlled.

You could say the same about C, but people still use it, so whatever man. Perl also doesn't force you to use OO constructs or whitespace, and a lot of its functions mirror the C ones. I find it pretty comfy.

Don't talk about my language ever again

computer technology is a clusterfuck of retarded shit and piss that needs to be erased from human history.

t-this is bait, right?

Perl was built by and for Unix and C programmers. Maybe that offends you, but you don't have to use it.

If you use Windows and want to have sane package management, then you are forced to use a 3rd party package manager since the first party can't into package managers.
Imo it's better to have one package manager for everything.
That's not reddit spacing, newfag.

No. Perl is better and more beautiful than Python. Just try it for a couple of days.

perl is terse, unreadable garbage
the source code for a valid perl program looks like gibberish, and changing a single character changes like 500 different things due to its terseness

perl is only good for autists who like code golf

only if you write it that way

perl is for boomers, python is the future

No, Python isn't the future. Why? Because it doesn't have one. The project has been taken over by faggots. And Perl6 is this weird reptilian tech from the future, but it's available today.

I know I might sound like an old perl boomer, but actually, I think it's better to learn Ruby since I believe that Crystal might be big thing one day. But both Perl and Ruby are vastly superior to Python, nevertheless. Python has crappy syntax that relies too heavily on whitespace. This is literally designed for low IQ niggercattle who can't make sensible decisions themselves. On the other hand, both Perl and Ruby have very comfy syntax that isn't too restrictive. Ruby and Perl6 have very amazing meta-programming capabilities. Perl also has very cool embedded docs, and it's very easy to call external programs from Perl code. Another good reason to use Perl is that nearly all systems have it installed by default, and you can keep on using your old scripts.

can we have an example of this kind of behaviour?
it seems like a volatile language to me (but then again, so do all loosely typed languages) and it's particularly easy to write unmaintainable code, but just like any programming it seems it isn't that bad if the programmer uses good practices.

Having used perl almost exclusively at work for the last year, I can say I'm not a huge fan of its esoteric, unintuitive syntax any more than I am of digging through forums made from the early 2000's to find answers to common questions.

That said, here's one of many ways to change a single character without 500 things.
my $word = "Hop";
$word = "B" . substr($word, 1);
print($word);

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on a computer system, you need more than one language.

you need shell for your very quick scripts, and python has taken perl's place as the "slightly more sophisitcated than shell" language. languages like Go and C are best used for more intense applications. that's what i meant when i said it was taking the next step from perl, as that was the language for a while

Despite the potential, nothing bad will happen from the CoCs because they won't be enforced unless you go full retard, in which case you would have been banned anyway regardless of a CoC

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Yeah, sure.
No shit, retard.

That's not the new Win10 dark theme, that's just high contrast mode which has been around forever.

Nigger.
Dark themes are a meme. Windows 10 was a meme since the beginning. Privacy alone is a reason not to use it. Then comes all this shit
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I like your way of thinking because it resembles mine. It really seems like the good days are over and every tech thing now becomes dumbed down and complexity is hidden behind an infinite layer of bloat masquerade.
Its basically marxism at work because we have to agree on a common denominator, which will always be the smallest one.

Did you know that the green text means you are quoting a post?
This idea is sometimes extended to rephrase a post, reiterate abstract parts of the post or describe a logical implication of a post, but not to ignore the post and write your own content to reply to.
Please observe the imageboard community and its conventions more before continuing posting.

i haven't seen anyone banned on a CoC'd project for misgendering either. have you?
spoiler alert: it's centralist. the rule is about not being a dick at work. the issue is people possibly abusing the rule, not the rule itself.
it's like saying anti-rape laws are leftist because actual tumblr SJWs made false rape claims targeting innocent men.

aesthetics aren't a meme.