Again more ThinkPads than Toughbooks edition. Old one hit 400 posts once again.
ThinkPad (and Toughbook) thread
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Blake Harris
Who even uses meltdown, spectre, and portsmash computers?
Gabriel Harris
I bought a 1680x1050 T61 from ebay for $30+$10 shipping and a Core2 Extreme X9100. I plan to bios mod it for 1066 FSB. I'll report back.
James Peterson
good job guys
Joseph Reed
The best $60 i ever spent
Ethan Rodriguez
what the fuck is so special about a laptop?
Ian Nguyen
nothing
although for some reason people collect thinkpads
Jason Hill
Wgat else do you suggest? PowerPC-based iBooks?
Joshua Edwards
X220 for $60. Where did you get that? What specs?
Daniel Thompson
I used to think thinkpads were just a meme but ever since I got one I see they're really the only ones worth having. The no-nonsense ones are nicely made.
I've had or used or worked on Lenovo, HP, Sony, Toshiba, Dell, Apple, Asus, and Acer. The only non-thinkpads I've liked was a Lenovo Gsomething and the eeepc.
Robert Hughes
I bought a keyboard for my T410. I received it today, it was low tier chinese shit, and it didn't even fit properly.
Hunter Morgan
lol, scammed on eBay with a GPS module. I knew there's no way someone would sell a GPS module for just 7,65€ including free shipping from Austria, all his auctions are removed and the seller was banned from eBay.
Let's hope Paypal will refund my shekels.
Samuel Martin
laptops are for good goyim. enjoy frying your balls and finger joints with wifi and emfs
Jaxson Morris
$60 ebay.com
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These are ones I would personally buy. If there's an issue you can't fix or a needed upgrade you don't have spare parts of, don't buy it.
Carson Fisher
for what purpose?
Grayson Barnes
I have an x60 that works fine, except the wireless hardware switch doesn't seem to do anything. I can connect to the internet just fine, but it'd be /comfy/ to be able to flip the switch and unplug on the fly. Any help?
Asher Green
"Lenovo"?
What is it and are they to the same quality as IBM's old machines?
(I don't trust it!)
Ayden White
and I've loaded the kernel module rfkill, it just doesn't seem to be mapped to my hardware switch :/ it could be broken internally for all i know..
Nathan Lee
Shameless crosspost from the sticky:
I have an x201 and the internet just doesn't work. I've tried ethernet cable, USB wifi adapter (no drivers lol), and swapping out the network card itself (Model 60Y3231, so it can't be due to a bois blacklist, because you can see it's a legit prat here:support.lenovo.com
Bluetooth works perfectly and can be switched on and off, but nothing from Wifi. Bios has Wifi enabled. It has Windows 7 but I'm about to test a Kubuntu live CD on it too. Any ideas?
Camden Lee
conact ebay/paypal support goyim reclam for the juden thiet for your shekels and send a juden email
Daniel Gomez
For some reason the T60/61 dock's DVI-D-1 output isn't available in OpenBSD 6.4 but every other port is (USB, ethernet etc)
Brody Rogers
what's everyone's experience with using a thinkpad for school?
Brandon Lee
my T410 was great for programming and documentation, my x220t made everyone jealous for the tablet
Matthew Smith
Stock of genuine parts for older Thinkpads is mostly depleted and what's left on the market are shitty knockoffs.
Christian Fisher
What if you have some neighbour's wifi signal in your apartment that's even stronger than your own wifi, 24/7, and have no means of turning it off or doing anything really about it?
Cameron Price
tinfoil ;^)
Brandon Jones
Not only that. Do note that all Thinkpads from T61/X61 all the way to T430/X230 are hopelessly vulnerable to the potentially catastrophic SA-00086 ME/AMT bug.
"Disabling" ME by any unofficial method is useless:
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Systems older than T440/X240 were left for dead by Lenovo and won't ever receive a ME firmware update which would patch the vulnerability:
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How does it feel to peruse a system which inherently and hopelessy CANNOT BE TRUSTED, PERIOD?
Landon Green
I can tolerate some bad aspects of it since like you've said, these parts aren't too available anymore, but the one I've received is very shitty.
Nicholas Russell
Jace Sullivan
you're fucked but at least you will drastically lower exposure if you dont keep a receiver/transceiver right next to your ballsack all day. this is just yet another reason to avoid cities and especially apartments
tinfoil does help but you cant get a full enclosure and you'd probably make a lot of noise walking around with your balls wrapped up in foil
Liam Cook
Isn't there any sort of legislation on how strong a stranger's wifi signal can be within the walls of your home? How to pinpoint the approximate location of the source of the offending signal?
Adrian Bailey
I don't mind the chiclet keyboard. It's all membrane shit anyways.
Evan Jones
probably but i doubt they are meaningful
you can probably pinpoint the location of the source with a directional meter, should be able to get one for a couple of hundred bucks. i don't see how that would help you though.
anyways your cellphone is a worse exposure than your neighbours wifi, i'd recommend carrying it in a bag instead of right next to your body, configure it to use 3g in place of 4g, and put it in airplane mode when you're not expecting any calls (and then maybe checking it every hour or so if you're in a position where people need you)
William Cooper
What RSSI levels of a stranger wifi signal in your home would you consider tolerable?
Lucas Price
T61-T400 Thinkpads ship with Merom and Penryn Core 2 Duos. ME is located outside the CPU on these microarchitectures and can be completely removed (unofficial HAP/AltMeDisable bit flipping not necessary). Remote exploitation is not possible. Any exploit would require physical access to these machines to re-flash vulnerable firmware, but then exploitation by way of physical access for any device is impossible to mitigate, management engine or not.
Owen Brooks
I'm looking into a hard drive caddy for the T420s. Are they any different from the other hard drive caddy's available? The listings on ebay don't seem to list the compatibility very well.
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More specifically I guess I'm wondering if this one is compatible with the T420s since it seems to be the cheapest available.
Mason Wright
Jesus christ
Jordan Lewis
A few models to or fro, fhat's the difference in the long run? Eventually all non-botnet hardware will become unusable, be it due to inevitable failure or due to other reasons.
Charles Perry
got a 15.4" 1680x1050 T61 from ebay
best $30 i ever spent
going to do the bios mod and put in a Core2 Extreme X9100
i also ordered a broken-ish W701ds for $600
that's gonna be my newest project.
my R60 also died, gonna try and frankenpad it
Cooper Nguyen
got a 15.4" 1680x1050 T61 from ebay
best $30 i ever spent
going to do the bios mod and put in a Core2 Extreme X9100
i also ordered a broken-ish W701ds for $600
that's gonna be my newest project
my R60 also died, gonna try and frankenpad it
Nicholas Gomez
X220t, T410, T61, W530.
Gonna mod the W530 to use the old keyboard. I put CloverOS on it and enabled the nvidia drivers, but KDE is a bitch and fails to use them until I eselect another profile.
Jackson Davis
Sauce on leftmost pic?
Juan Rodriguez
Theoretically speaking, how well can you build up an old thinkpad? Enough for serious gaming, 3D rendering, and editing?
Luke Martinez
Thinkpads aren't exactly great for that, they're mostly business laptops not gaming/editing rigs.
Dylan Fisher
You can buy a W530 for $200 and put an old keyboard in it, an i7-3940XM (3GHz, 3.9GHz turbo), 32GB ram, and use some eGPU with it for a true patrician mobile workstation that will cost 25% as much as anyone else's shit dual core laptop.
Gabriel King
I don'ẗ konw. Ideally I would want to live in the middle of nowhere, at least a 500 meters away from the closest neighbour, and from the main road, now that 5G is starting to roll out. But that's not realistic for me atm. I'm currently being fried by more networks than I care to count, and I live very close to a 4G tower.
Jayden Perry
Adding on to this, if you don't want to buy an external gpu; make sure you get the version with a k2000m. It's the most expensive part to upgrade afterhand. don't fuck up like i did
Daniel Watson
The cheapest listing I can find on ebay is $300, most are closer to $500. Where are you getting W530s for $200?
Joshua Peterson
The last 2 just sold: ebay.com
The cheapest one now is $280, but if you lurk ebay for a while and bid on auctions, you can get a lower price.
Benjamin Price
I'm looking for a very minimalist laptop that's really light. My choices so far boil down to the x60 or the x200. The x60 I've read can be librebooted without needing to crack it open which would be a big plus, but as far as I can tell it's a bit difficult to get one with a core 2 duo inside of it. I'm also having a hard time deciding between whether or not to get the tablet version of either of them. I want the machine to be very light but the idea of maybe learning how to do some basic drawing on a small portable machine is quite enticing.
Alexander Lewis
The massive 1680x1050 laptop i got for $30
Adam Young
i am the world champion at thinkpads
Julian Diaz
Nathaniel Diaz
I doubt it. I have at least 30, myself.
Jackson Williams
I have too much laptops myself.
Connor Edwards
Grayson Watson
I know that feel user, when RAM drops in price i'm getting 32GB of 3466 B-Die and a 970 Pro.
Austin Murphy
Copying some HDD images from my Toughbooks and Toughpads to my external HDD. Damn those enterprise HDDs run hot, especially without active cooling.
Jose Harris
That's 7 degrees C higher than my CPU after 6h of mprime...
Caleb Martinez
There is an error with the Toughbook CF31 microphone when docking under linux. To resolve:
1. Ran this software
sudo apt-get install alsa-tools-guihdajackretask
2. overrode pin 19 to DOCK IN
3. unmuted mic via mixer
Mic tested, works fine at 50% volume.
Liam Lewis
CF-31 has a mic? wtf?
Luke Parker
Oh wait, dock mic-in port.
Brayden Bell
Yeap, they don't make laptops like these anymore.
Liam Garcia
they make plenty of flimsy plastic craptops with bad screens
only difference is it's not 4:3 anymore.
Carter Kelly
Ian Lewis
Aiden Taylor
Is there actually a toughbook equivalent to the libre-ness of the older thinkpads, or does one have to trade off insecurity for durability and ergonomics if they get a toughbook?
Nicholas Thompson
Bumping for interest
Isaac Butler
Can't be librebooted though.
Angel Campbell
A librebooted Intel machine is still more botnet than an AMD machine
David Gray
Whats a good non-botnet AMD laptop then? I'd like something similar to the x60 in size and weight.
Dominic Carter
is PSP not a botnet? Seems like there's a lot less concrete info on AMD's psp than Intel's ME(confirmed running Minix with network stack and JVM etc)
Julian Gonzalez
All of these low-tier AMD machines were released before 2013 (PSP)
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Intel chips have integrated 3G modems and new hardware vulnerabilities are discovered every month. PSP is a small fry in comparison
Julian Martin
Which work without a SIM card? Who is the carrier who facilitates the supposed connectivity? Also
Levi Phillips
Yes, because Spectre will stick its stick up yo ass no matter what if you're on any x86-compatible system that is newer that the Pentium MMX 233 MHz.
Lucas Ross
You don't need a sim card to communicate with phone towers. 911 calls work, remember? Every Core 2 Duo CPU and later has the on-die 3G chip.
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I think a pre-PSP AMD machine is more secure than a Librebooted Intel machine.
David Perry
Wat? Core 2 is 3G botnet? So what shoud one use , a Pentium 4 housefire? Scratch that, it has HT so it's cucked by PortSmash. Pentium III it is then, with Meltdown patches slowed to Pentium II tier speeds? Or, as said, grab a Pentium MMX 233 while you're at it to be rid of all botnet including Spectre?
Tyler Edwards
I'm comfy with my FX-8350
Kevin Hernandez
So you can essentially just buy a thinkpad with a pre-2013 AMD chip in it and not need to even libreboot it to avoid the botnet? Most of these seem to have shitty looking keyboards though.
Jace Campbell
The BIOS is technically still proprietary unless there's a Coreboot for them. But I think Intel hardware vulns are more of a risk than proprietary firmware (unless Linux has 100% fixed everything)
Eli James
So all mobile network carriers all over the world have a secret contract with Intel and assorted cianogs to carry and route covert 3G traffic to and from Intel CPUs all over the world?
Matthew Barnes
Yes.
Christian Bell
It'd be funny if someone does a Linux 4.20+ benchmark featuring Intel vs a machine from and discovers Intel is now slower then AMD
Joseph Hernandez
...
Christopher Kelly
Linux 4.20 is pozz, you'd got to be stoned to use it
Adam Rogers
*without a warrant
Bentley Hill
Asher Flores
Doesn't look like anyone of them have touch screens though.
Nathaniel Rivera
Sounds more like FUD regarding ME/AMT tbh rather than something concerning the CPUs themselves.
Xavier Evans
They're pretty good quality. I've had mine for a few years now, some of the plastic has chipped/cracked, and the screen also died (granted, I bought it used and I have no idea how long it was used before me, plus a replacement screen was really cheap, even with the warranty). HDD is starting to show its age, but there's a built-in mSATA port, so I'll just get an SSD around Christmas and slap it in, should boost it's lifespan a bit more.
Biggest problem though are the screws are really soft and are prone to having their heads stripped. It's a fucking nightmare trying to get one of those out.
Other than that, everything is easy to upgrade/replace, I got mine for $120 (which included the docking station, a must-have), nothing wrong with buying it used.
Asher Rivera
Thinkpads really aren't meant for that, like says. Light business work mostly.
With that being said, some older-ish games run decent on it (HL2 runs fine, but that's about the only 3D game that I've had run well. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. refused to start at all, and Worms Revolution runs like trash). I've used Sony Vegas a bit on it, and it's OK, I didn't edit anything major on it though.
Mason Roberts
ARE
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WINNIN'
SON?
Julian Rodriguez
Talk me out of getting this T60 QXGA: link.marktplaats.nl
James Gomez
I actually play GTA V on my P50 whenever i'm bored in bed.
Gavin Cooper
Buy a T60 and do it yourself
Jace Phillips
This. I have no problem using my X220 for Dolphin, PCSX2, MAME, or Stalker in Wine for that matter. The Sandy Bridge iGPU is pretty capable even if it can't pull 60fps.
Easton James
How do I flash a new bios to my t60 using loonix?
Kevin Allen
Just replaced the keyboard. BIOS was already flashed, now I have a powerful workstation thinkpad that is light and uses the better keyboard.
Jaxson Sanchez