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What's the difference between natsoc and fascism?
Ethan Richardson
Jason Taylor
It's not so much that natsoc "places more importance" on ethnicity as natsoc is literally built around preserving common genetic heritage. Fascism makes preservation and perpetuation of the state (Italy and by extension the Roman empire) the ultimate goal of the state and all individuals within it. Natsoc is a similar approach but with an ethnic group (specifically the German people) as the core value. Whereas fascism is usually about the state as an institution, natsoc is about the genetic material of your people. There is a lot of overlap between these ideologies in practice so they can usually get along fine (with a border between them), but they are actually philosophically irreconcilable in that they operate in different value systems.
Jason Morales
The State = the people/volk. You should know this.
Elijah Torres
I like this quote from your article: "We made italy, now we must make italians."
I got through half of it, i want to say, it is very well written! It's captivating and informative!
Learned quite a bit about early Italy, it struggled with unifying a lot of distinct mini-states under a singular italian government, and that there were huge culutural differences within that state. The government tried to appease to everyone's demands, but could only ever bring out half-measures, which the communists fed upon. But the socialists within the communist movement seperated, and through communistic agitation and defacing of the nation and patriotism "Red advance", gave birth to the fascist movement, spearheaded by mussolini and his followers, black shirts.
Throughout all the years, the government, remained weak and did nothing to stop either the communists or the fascists. Infact, the government saw fascists as a useful tool to stop the rioting and troublesome communists, that they thought could control. But Mussolini would have none of that, and rose his over 500 thousand strong following to a march on Rome. It is said, that the politicians in the parlament were still debating over the most petty and insignificant issues, until the blackshirts actually walked in and surrounded them.
"The next day Mussolini leaves Naples, the congress is declared to be over and the Blackshirts disappear without a trace. The March on Rome has begun! In the minds of the Blackshirts this was a formality, they already de facto ruled the country, it was simply time to recognize that fact in the highest offices of power. They push onward to the capitol, “in the name of the dead and those who would live in the future” – another parallel to Codreanu. The Nationalist Blueshirts rush out to join them on the march. Meanwhile Rome is still stuck in petty parliamentary intrigues, now joined by wild rumors of supposed coalition plans and other political combinations, as if blind to the approach of the Fascist Dragon.
On the 27th Rome is surrounded by the mobilized army of Blackshirts, finally silencing the mill of petty politics behind the curtains of parliament. Fascism issues its proclamation, saying how it has marched to overthrow “the political class of weak and miserable, who in the course of 4 long years were unable to give the nation a real government”. The proclamation ends with these words: “We call upon the Almighty and the souls of our 500 thousand martyrs to bear witness, that we are moved by a singular purpose, united by a singular will, ignited by a singular passion: to help save, and to serve for the greatness of our Fatherland.”
Time to keep reading, I can only recommend your article!
John Nelson
kek, I had the same thought.
Isaiah Williams
Fascism is the eternal struggle for truth, and fascism is the advancement of the self, family, race, culture and ecology.
National Socialism is the German manifestation of Fascism.
National Fascism is the Italian manifestation of Fascism.
British Fascism is the British manifestation of Fascism.
Legionarism, Falangism, Rexism and Integralism are others.
Most stumble when they mix Fascism with (Italian) National Fascism. But the former is the whole worldview, while the latter is the Italian interpretation of that worldview. Fascism is the umbrella ideology. Don't mix it with Italian National Fascism
Cameron Brooks
Redpill me on 'x,' or "asking to be educated," isn't allowed because it's a break from the regular format. People post when they have something interesting to share, or something interesting to say of their own. If you imagine an in-person forum, it's kind of ridiculous to imagine someone going up to the podium to as the audience a question, as the main premise of a speech. If you want to learn more, do some research yourself and post the results. If you see a thread on the topic where someone seems knowledgeable, ask away; like a Q&A session after a presentation. To start a thread asking to be spoon-fed is lazy, entitled, and ultimately kills another thread for no good reason.
Aaron Garcia
It's actually a very hard question. I've tried to answer this question for years and i've come to the conclution that they are very diffrent indeed (but not for a person that is very versed) but i couldn't really give you an answer on how. There is no doubt that NS is very fascistsic, but philosofically they are diffrent. My best tip would be to read Hitler's work including table talks and Rosenberg, and than compare it to very good youtubers on fascism such as Cultured thug (including his rant channel) and Marshal Ironsides.
My best attempt on explaining the difference would be
Fascism is basically spiritually,mentally, physically people united towards a common goal.
NatSoc is basically racial survival and thriving on a spiritually,mentally, physically plan.
As you can see fascism does not need to include race in to the question. But it will most likely do since that would mean a more united people.
NatSoc doesn't need to include fascistic elements but it will most likely do since that would increse the chance of survival of the race on spiritually, mentally, physically level.
Cooper Jenkins
Are you fucking retarded? Read my post again.
Carson Robinson