Yes, I agree with the basic sentiment. But I am asking why did this begin? Out of all species, why us? It isn't even biologically necessary to pass on our species (if it was at one point, it most certainly isn't anymore)
Your consciousness is God
Eli Ortiz
Cooper Brown
Your conflating things. It was not necessary for God to create the world, nor to incarnate or get crucified, but once he freely chose to do those things the necessary consequences were entailed. And a certain order or fate was manifested, i.e salvation became contingent on the incarnation and crucifixion.
Isaiah Miller
>sucking (((hegels))) dick
Jaxon Price
You cant have reasonable faith? Yes you can. See I did it right there. I put the word reasonable in front of faith as a modifier.
You can reason your way up a tree if you want to.
WRONG.
I assume you are a wishy washy fuck that is too lazy to pick a morality system and live by it. I used to be like you. Pick anything you like. BUT YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE, FUCKER.
Someone asked about christian morality and it's origins. I am clearing up misconceptions as is my eternal task in life.
Connor Moore
Neoplatonism isn't Christianity, it's just an emphasis on what Plato had talked about which is also an emphasis on what Pythagoras talked about which is also an emphasis on the concepts the Orphic Mystics talked about, so claiming the concepts outlined in Neoplatonism didn't exist prior to Christianity is a failure to understand ancient Monistic Metaphysics that also existed in Egypt and India and in various other places.
Free will is merely a choice between subjecting unto divine will or ignoring it. The divine has no choice, it merely does what is good because it is good.
Joshua Flores
The Great Deceiver is an arrogant lying child, and humanity was sent here to fuck up his shit for the lulz. The Almighty Father would have done it Himself, but our immortal collective soul wanted the fun and so He's letting us do it instead, even though it'll take much longer our way, because time doesn't matter to Him because He's endless.
Jonathan Moore
This defensiveness is unnecessary. I promise you, I have studied many different polythistic/cults religions. Particularly indo-european myth. I am fascinated on the origins of aryan logos (which is the most abstract). But this thread is about the basic logos, Good/Evil.
Way to be sour grapes, had no idea you felt I was being condescending..
Austin Clark
Ye ye, but the problem is you need to justify your assertion that the demonic Yahweh/El/El Shaddai/El Elyon/Tetragrammaton/whatever-greek-translation-you-want-to-pretend-is-the-original-name in the (((Old Testament))) (A collection of books riddled with lies mixed with stolen texts from the Jews/Hebrews' neighbors throughout history) is someway, somehow, the ultimate absolute of the Universe. What a profane situation you Abrahamists get yourselves in to.
Caleb Nelson
Oh. Well I don't know shit about those specifically. We've probably sparred in the past.
I consider those "dead" because the masses have left them behind. I'm sure there's something to learn from them but I have never bothered.
I may have been projecting a pattern I had seen elsewhere onto your words, forgive me, long day at work.
Adrian Green
For man, yes. But God's freedom is absolute and unlike ours.
False. If the divine had no choice it would not be omnipotent or infinite, but impotent and constrained. It's true that everything that God does is good, by virtue of his nature and wisdom, but that doesn't mean God has no freedom in what he creates or how he relates to his creation. He is totally free. The creation of the universe was not an automatic, necessary event God had to initiate, as if he were an algorithm in a computer. That's not God, that's more of a demi-urge, a finite craftsman.