Should we gas all Atheists?

Do you not see the difference between being created with a penis and using that penis to commit rape or sodomy? Do you not see the difference between being created with a stinger and using that stinger to kill an innocent? I am surprised I have to elaborate on this point.

I don't think either of us are D&C and I am quite enjoying the conversation. I imagine the shills left when it got anchored. I don't hate you brother, I just think you have some things wrong and I believe Christ is the answer. No doubt you think the same of me.

None of this contradicts reality in which science, urbanization, typography and industrialization were main reasons for the rise of the culture of not giving a fuck about transcendental powers. Prove me wrong.
Yes it made me feel good because it reminded me of a jew whom I personally knew who was very proud of his religion and refused to discuss the reasons for him being so sure in anecdotal evidence of miracles described in Torah. Made infinite statements about how judaism is cool but never managed to speak out a single fruitful argument and posted only in his own thread about Israel which he created for few years straight. He did not grasp the concept of belief, same as you do.

You can phrase it any way but evil exists because god allows it to or he could at least see it coming.

No I do not.

You world view if of a mad and illogical God, who creates things without a reason or purpose, like a weird piece of art and then acts surprised if the the sharp bits on the statue cause people to bleed. That's a demonic world view.

But as a religious person, I see everything as a plant that slowly grows and evolves. Thus the stingers main purpose is to kill people, thus there is a lot of evil in creation.

God created everything with a purpose. A scorpion having a stinger does not mean a scorpion was supposed to kill innocent children. A man having a penis does not mean that a man is supposed to rape another man's anus. There is a difference between something being created with a purpose, and using that created thing for another purpose.

Man made lightbulbs to provide light; but some degenerates stick them up their anus because they are degenerate. Just because some twisted person uses their free will to do something they are obviously not supposed to, does not mean that a lightbulb was made for putting up your bum.

Believe what you will, but the vast majority of people in the USA, UK and Europe were devout Christians even after WW2, even after we had aeroplanes and nuclear warheads, steam trains, surgery and medicinal drugs, even when we had an extremely good understanding of the world atheism was still very rare.

You will find that a good many of the enlightenment thinkers who pushed atheist concepts were actually from a certain (((tribe))). Atheism being popular has far more to do with jews in education and media than it does with technological progression - as is evidenced by the censuses and the memories of our grandparents of a time that existed a mere 60 or 70 years ago. Yes atheism was on the rise then, but we also had jews in the government, the frankfurt school in full swing, communists ruling in Russia and a host of other obvious signs of jewry. We had technology before this stuff - and even with it at very high levels, the masses were faithful. The same is true of the relative advanced cultures of the Romans, Greeks and many more. Atheism as a mainstream thing is a very new phenomena and can be traced with little effort back to jews.

Yes He does, because those who do good with the choice perform a greater good than those who do good because they are forced. This is the premise behind free will. If He did not allow for man to be disobedient and therefore do evil, then He would not be the highest form of good AKA God. Thus God, to be the highest form of good, must allow disobedience from His creations so that they can reach a higher level of good.

Wrong, it is clearly the purpose of some men in life to sodomise each other, it is evil, it is an evil purpose, but it is their purpose in life as that is what life evolved to do.

I view Christianity as a form of atheism, as did the Romans and Egyptians viewed the Jews and Christians as atheists.

Monotheism = Atheism.

All that are writing down sounds like gooblygook to me, an attempt to make sense of something illogical.

Then I guess we are at an impasse. If you lack the logical ability to understand that there is a difference between something being "created good" with a specific purpose in mind, and later being misused to do evil then I cannot help you.

If you equally cannot see that being forced to make the right decision is 'less good' than making the right decision of your own volition, then I also cannot help you.

I hope God opens your eyes brother so that you can see such simple things. God bless you.

There is no difference, because this world evolved, it was not created, there is not all powerful monotheistic God, just an impersonal destiny and thousands of personal and somewhat impersonal divine forces.

To claim otherwise is atheism.

I hope the Gods open your eyes, so that you can see we do not life in a good world and to stop fighting reality by using a bunch of weird concepts that make no sense.

Not an argument.

The world as it is, is not good. The world has fallen. The prince of this world is the devil. But everything was created good initially, until we fell to sin. That is the Christian understanding. So we now seek to reconnect humanity with God, which is the gift of Jesus and His sacrifice, and then God will judge the world and the evil will be destroyed ushering in 'heaven'.

I sure hope so.

He, your slowly agreeing with me, the world is not good, end of story, it's not evil either.

The world is a battleground, where different forces fight.

Expose it.
If creatures obey god he may exclude the need for evil by making those choices for them, as good as he wishes.

Are you mad or something?

Making improvable statements is practically the same as being wrong.