The Tinder Effect

By now, most anons know about the 80-20 rule, especially when it comes to dating.
We've all seen the studies and heard the facts. 20% of the men get 80% of the women.
But what if there's a darker twist to this? Not just for dating either, something more pervasive, a new paradigm crafted for a sinister purpose?

Gentlemen, I present you something that my group of friends dubbed "The Tinder Effect". It is one of the greatest threats to modern society.
One little fact about Tinder that the mass of users don't know is that they're being "ranked" in attractiveness. It's quite organic too: Every time someone swipes to the right, you get a boost in attractiveness, getting a bigger boost if that person was already attractive as well. This number works like an ELO chess ranking. It's aim is to pair you with people ranking near your score.
Kinda makes sense, if you're an 8/10 why would you settle for a 4/10? Their algorithm is a little fuzzy on the tests we performed, but it seems to obey to a few simple principles
Up till now, It was just math and some guesswork. But a few of you have used Tinder, and you know where I'm going because you know how a typical man uses Tinder.
The mentality is that you have to swipe right: the chances of hitting someone are so low, you're basically spraying and praying at this point.
But this is what sets off the Tinder Effect.

Every swipe right, ranks those 100 girls a little bit higher. A girl with a recently made tinder profile will be matched with 8-10 males within a couple of days because there's a ludicrous amount of males shouting "FUKKEN HOT" at their algorithm. You can look at this from a lot of viewpoints, but in the end, you have a dysfunctional system that leaves half the users feeling they're not good enough (soy) and the other half feeling like they're fucking princesses (feminists).

And if you think that's horrible, the opposite (the Counter-Tinder Effect) provokes even more abnormalities. Think about this: who are the top 20% males that supposedly get all the females? Buff Hollywood actors in their sports car? Nope. Average dudes. They made their profile, were ranked a pitiful 4/10 until one day a girl ranked 6/10 swiped him right. It doesn't even matter if it goes anywhere or not. That swipe bumped him to 5/10 by itself. With a lack of suitors, he's now matched with 7/10. A couple more hits and he's a 10/10 himself. Why? The system belives a bunch of FUKKEN HOT 10/10 girls really like this guy, so he must be a 10/10 himself.

If you're on one of these sites, leave. This is the same as facebook, youtube and Twitter. Okcupid, Tinder and assorted fuckery are one of the most insidious thing and perverse thing modern society came up with.
I don't even give a shit about the promiscuous sex. That's bad on it's own, but the greatest evil Tinder pulled is warping how people perceive their own worth and the worth of others.
If you're not on the site, keep reading. (cont)

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I can tell you put a pot of thought into this but I must tell you that it was a waste of time. Of course tinder (and it's ilk) are retarded, they were built to appeal to women and their lustful urges. How could something designed for women not be retarded?

The answer is, like you said, disconnect. Get off the internet. Go be in Nature. Read /SIG/. Be a real man, not one of these poor imitations. Men derive theur pleasure and validation from who they are, not from what they do.

So who are you being today?

No surprise here. Anyone who doesn’t understand by now that everything, EVERYTHING, you do online is tracked, categorized and utilized in some way. Sometimes against you. All social media is used for this and to conduct experiments on the entire world population. Forget the bullshit story of how Cuckerberg made Kikebook in his dorm. No, it was and is CIA. What’s funny is when people think MKULTRA and it’s inbred cousins ever really stopped. No, it’s just mass scale now.

Welcome to the future. We are living the Orwellian nightmare.

That’s how it works in reality mate. Walk around with a literal 10 hottie on you calling you sweetie. Do that for a few weeks and watch all the other women get interested. Doesn’t matter what you look like.


Well first I am going to go slap the piss out of this rock in front of me then go from there.

It's obviously based on how much you pay, you can tweak matchs and results by weight/attractiveness as long as you pay up goy

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Jew, if i have to pay for pussy, that pussy is no longer worth fucking

sounds very exploitable with a few fake profiles and a couple burner phones

How can we use this information to destroy Tinder?

Swipe a left on all of thots

The second most important thing is to realize that despite me calling it the "Tinder Effect", this is something that manifest itself in a lot more areas of our everyday life.
And in a way that didn't happen 10 or 15 years ago. I'm talking about a complete paradigm shift in society and how we "rank" each other.

Think about how you measured someone's success a couple years ago. What about now?
Your public image was the result of your actions and what you did unto society reflect how society perceived you. Fast forward to today and your actions are instead the result of your public image.
Not only are you extremely limited by how others see you (very dependent on third parties) but you're actions must at all times serve to maintain and enhance said image.

Subconsciously, we've grown aware and accustomed to this. I've got neighbors that work abroad and return to their native land during the summer. They'll rent out a 5000$-a-month and hope none notices it's rented hoping to give off the vibe that they've got a great job abroad and they're rich. These people feel like Pariahs in their own native land and must hold on to something to keep people in their life.
Youtube ecelebs are a very ironic display of this mentality. You've heard about "flexing"? That's it, that's the misguided attempt to get another swipe right, another speck of approval.

And it works too: in a public situation, when someone display approval of you or your actions, the rest of the group quickly internalizes that you have someone on your side. Going against you would be a losing battle from the start. And that's how most modern relationships work out. The first to act, the more impulsive (and generally weak-willed) person quickly garners support without any kind of merit, effort or reason.

I like to post food for though and let anons think so we can all talk, but this is starting to get close to random rambling. So to put a conclusion to this, I'm afraid we're no headed to a Meritocracy like I wanted. Nor are we headed to an idiocracy (that atleast collapses quickly for us to rebuild). I think we're walking to a strange morbid dystopia the likes which I've never read about. "Clownworld" is, I think, the closest word to describe it.


I don't really use Tinder. I used Okcupid a long while ago and the profiles there told me exactly what kind of person frequents that sort of site. I expected Tinder to be the same and one of my colleages showed me his. It's just a shallow dating app with even less reason to connect people. Not much to talk so we start chatting about the math of it all and extrapolated from there.
The best decision I made a couple years ago was getting into a bar with a deck of cards and inviting a couple random guys to play over a beer. Made two of my best friends that day. Just two guys that enjoy their work and do drunk math for fun.


Like I said above, I think if Orwell could see us now, his reaction would be closer to "Holy fucking shit, that's impressive in a fucked up way."


Same goes for wearing a ring like you're engaged. For some strange reason, it calls girls over. Weird uh?

Now there's a cool idea. I'm gonna see how that one works out. If I get a few of my mates to join, we're gonna spread 5 guys over a 200 mile radius. Sounds like a nice summer vacation project.
I'll let you guys know how that works in a few weeks.

create hamplanet profiles and stud male profiles and have the studly male profiles swipe left on attractive women and right on hamplanets
this will eventually lead to hamplanets being bumped as more attractive in the algorithm and will feed the studs hamplanet profiles and push down thots profiles as less attractive
mathematically speaking a couple hundred accounts doing this over a couple months would probably fry the whole system

When I was married I used to get hit on all the time. The problem was that it was mostly Jews and well shaped Latinas.

oh yes it should work perfectly, you can game your own results to get 10/10s all day

Brilliance.

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Oh right, one funny bit about Tinder I forgot to include on my rambling:
When you swipe someone to the right, you might not be swiping an actual user. No I don't mean a bot.
You know how you can log in with your facebook? Yeah, Tinder doesn't shy away from use Zuck's API to search for profiles near you.
I mean, maybe one day they'll join Tinder and you're swipe is already there! How great is that? It also creates the idea that app is used far more than you'd initially assume.
Once again, it's all about looking good instead of doing good.

We found this out when my mate spit half his beer upon seeing a mutual female friend on their. She had to see it to believe it, because she never had an account there.
Glad Faceberg's TOS cover selling your profile info to third party apps!

Very thoughtful OP, and succinctly put in a way that I think could be gamed fairly easily to achieve Zig Forums goals.

Peacocktopia?

this "get" is a vague idea of what love is about … if you are looking to fuck user then get a whore or become a pua

but love its something different and anything else is about as valuable as a cheeseburger , sorry you are a 16yr old virgin, when you finally have sex youll see… its not that important

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This many answers? I'm sorry but if you put your dick inside a woman from Tinder you have no self-respect…seriously get some fucking standards.

Who is this macro depicting?

yea you can tell who's who and who's jewish AI due to generally just the profile pictures. It's pretty pathetic that they give first time users a bunch of fake matches to boost their confidence.

How fucking weak. Do they have shitskin blood by any chance? They have money and each other. Should just barbecue every weekend, play vidya, sports and shitpost with their family and real friends.

Use it to catfish/mug people until it gets shut down. Of course this a completely hypothetical scenario.

The 80 20 rule is some sort of weird nerd science for beta dudes who cant get laid. Many of the dudes who get the most pussy are not fit or even really likable douchebags get lots of pussy

It's worse than that. In an Orwellian society people would know somethings up and might rebel. IRL people are kept sedate through hedonism. They don't care what the powers that be do as long as they get their cummies

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What you are describing is basically just a result of kikes promoting nigger culture to whites. Living beyond your means, especially by buying luxury items just to display wealth that you don't actually have because you can't really afford that expensive shit but buy / rent it anyway and of course worshipping the most bold and retarded of the group is basic 101 niggery.

**This user understands how tinder works.
Also if you swipe right on a girl you go to the back of the queue with the thousands of other thirsty untermensch.** Do not swipe on them, puts you higher in the queue for them to see your profile than the 'swiped' queue. Wait for them to keep coming back up and then you know they matched with you.

Jew logic.

The "top 20% of men" has nothing to do with the indicators which the average man thinks are attractive.
If the fact is that four fifths of women are giving sex exclusively to one fifth of men, it doesn't matter what Jewish mind tricks you try and pull.

They really arent though its just you guys arent having any sex so you think its like this for everyone. Most dudes get laid fairly often

Is this supposed to be new information, degenerate?

To you yes

Thanks for demonstrating you know nothing about the topic at hand.

OP is a fagoot and can't get laid. The most attractive men are also often the most intelligent. Everything you know is false. You are a virgin and a moron.

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Probably that kikess Southern. Also goes by 'Literally who?'

Okcupid has been doing this. huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/16/okcupid-hiding-hotties-fr_n_614149.html

Pussy is never free user, it gets paid for in cash at the time or in alimony or child support later on.

That's how human nature works.
If not "swiping right" , try ""seductive conversation in the library" or any other technique.
You just described what happens naturally.

Make loads of accounts and swipe left on every whore to make her feel how she really should for being a whore.
Whorible

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Post-Tinder society is a looks based caste system (LBCS), all the meritocratic elements have been stripped out by social media, your looks are now your permanent stratified class.

Different men have always had different results, but social media and tinder have widened the gulf too much. Pre-social media, one's attractiveness to women consisted of two components - physical(face body etc.) and non-physical(money, personality, charisma etc.). In the post tinder era none of that matters because you're just a fuck pic on a phone - swipe left or right. 80% of men are considered below average physically by women as they do NOT grade men on a smooth bell curve. 80% of men are now in a position where they cannot compete or have a severely reduced capacity to do so. Think of it like the economic term, marginal utility of income (the increase in utility gained from one extra unit of income, which tends to have diminishing returns). With me being in the bottom 80%, my marginal return to an extra hour of non physical attractiveness improvement is now zero because non physical elements no longer matter. I've been regularly social, worked on social skills, learned game, developed hobbies, and NONE OF IT MATTERS WHATSOEVER because none of these activities provide any marginal value for a given amount of time invested any more. Earning more money won't get me any more pussy, so I don't. More exercise won't get me any more pussy (already 10% bodyfat), so I don't. More socialising won't get me any more pussy because every woman I meet in real life is "single and not looking for anything" i.e. fucking chad on tinder while pretending to be single so as not to look like a slut, so I don't socialise. If you want us to come back you have to increase the marginal pussy utility of NON PHYSICAL attractiveness (work, socialising, hobbies, morality generally speaking). One way of thinking of patriarchal societies is that they forcibly impose rules which create a correlation between non physical attractiveness and sexual success, which motivates the bottom 80% uglies to do something other than what they would do in a state of nature - Kill, rape, form gangs, and masturbate.

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How do they keep coming back up? There's no way to skip, closing the application is tedious. Are you saying that left swipes aren't permenant?

you not finding matches on tinder has nothing to do with politics.

This leads me back to read Guenon and Evola. It's exactly how they wrote down decades ago. We are living in feminist/womanish/lunatic cult's crazy times. There is nothing you can do, except isolate and watch the nightmarish state of the world from the sides.

Why did I born these crazy times, well there's an answer to it too.

So many choices though…

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The best way to counter this is to build your own close social networks with close male friends who are at least a little redpilled. I had given up on trying to find a woman, especially with dating sites, but my friend hooked my up with someone. A clan of redpilled dudes are the best wingman you can have.

Its a mix of both. Its amazing that theres this plethora of information at our fingertips, but the useful stuff is relegated to far corners, and most don't have any interest in finding/absorbing it.

They also account for boredom and beer.

only if you're /pol neckbeard

it's literally piss easy to get laid now.. even without social media, but it's there if you want although totally not necessarily

girls have literally embraced nerd culture.. it's literally game over yet you're still here festering over how pathetic you are and convincing yourselves that there is no hope and you might as well give up

GIVE UP

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You need to be a brainlet somewhere else pls.

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I think the idea is to make millions of accounts with pictures of hotties. Sell swipe right services, just like people sell follows on twitter.

We have the knowledge and the means to do this with room to spare, being what we are. If we accomplish anything less than the complete crashing of tinder with no fucking survivors then we have nothing to blame but our own lack of effort.


N-not in that order, right?

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This is why /sig/ is so powerful. Mewing, falim, keto, movnat and so on are so powerful for changing self esteem because they literally change looks in ways superficial women didn't think possible. Funniest is the previous high ranks. When they see a future of 90% having good looking strong features rather than 10+20%, they will freak out, because their relative looks value will be gone, and worse, their life lived with no backup plan will have their asses hanging out in the air.

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OP here.
I'm quite disheartened to see so many "lol, you can't get laid, you suck at it that's why you mad".
Especially after outlining that my sole contact with tinder was talking to a guy that tried it.
I'm gonna consider this kind of posts "shills" or bots, because I don't want to think I'm posting in a board where 37% of the posters don't read more than 4 posts in a thread.
I already have a relationship anyway that, for the time being, is going really well.

The point of the thread, to get back on topic, is to observer Tinder and realize that's it's not just Tinder doing this. Tinder is a symptom.
The internet was a thing that overtime came to horrify people because it mirrored our behavior with no restraints.
Around where I live, no-one could conceive the idea of Mexican cartels skinning 14 year old boys alive. It was traumatic to accept that something like that even exists, and were it not for the internet, people would go about their lives blissfully ignorant about it.
It's easy to blame the Internet for "bad things", but it's much harder to accept that internet is just opening your eyes to all the amazing and wonderful things the human being can do… alongside the horrible and monstrous things a human being can also do.

I'm slightly too old for this fuck-fest generation and like to ramble about it, food for thought and all that.
While Tinder honestly scared me at first (the societal implications of easy-access, no commitment sex are abhorrent) it hit me that something like this is simply a byproduct of the instant-gratification, hedonistic and short-sighted society we have nowadays.
I haven't taken the black pill yet, I met folks right here on Zig Forums that give me hope for the future and now the next generation isn't as doomed as our yarmulke-wearing (((friends))) would have us believe.
But some days I meet a young girl that just ditched her 11th partner and discovered there's a kid on the way and the only to find the father is to send DNA tests to 6 guys, exposing her as a whore to everyone. And then there's that look of regret, that "I fucked up" look that grows ever more common nowadays.
I'm fairly thick skinned but my heart just chokes seeing shit like this. Maybe I should be more like folks on Zig Forums and be a bit more heartless, but I can't.
Every time I see people like that, I know the road they walked to get there, I know (((who))) lead them down that road, and while they bear their share of guilt on their choices, I think there's a few (((people))) that I would shoot in the face with a goddamn smile.


It's amazing how much I've postponed reading Huxley. I had a slew of other books ahead of it because 1984 was actually pretty fucking disturbing to me. That ending hit me like a brick. I picked up a lot other "lighter" themes after it, but that image is so spot on, it's crazy. I got the book right here, and now I really think I NEED to read it. Thanks for reminding me user.

Oh and, I gotta sleep because work tomorrow but I think I'll leave an endorsement for
The /sig/ folks are among the wonderfull people I mentioned and if it weren't for those guys, I don't think I'd have found my current gf.

Thank you Zig Forums. We don't say it often, but this place is what gives people like me the drive to wake up everyday and strive for a better tomorrow.

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Not with that attitude you can't bucko.

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I strongly advise you study the Pareto Distribution. It's the actual scientific reason Communism will always fail, and it's a way worse problem than social or economic. It applies to everything, from individual creative output to the population sizes of cities to the height of trees in a forest to the mass of stars. It's a strange natural law that manifests everywhere, like the Fibonacci Sequence. I think Tinder may have simply generated a new medium for it to manifest in.

confirmed dubs of truth.

Turtle says Strawberry fields no more, shill BPS is looking thirsty these days as well.

This is true. Having attractive women around you sends the signal that you are pre-screened and pre-selected by other women which in turns increases your social status.

That's one hongery turtle.

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There’s a strawberry field down the road.

One turtle doing his best I guess.

The metaphor was no more r-selected hippy dissipating abundance addicted degenerate Beatles music that started the Feminist/Jew/PoC attack on white dignity and long-suffering forbearance.

this is "scratch the surface" pseudo int, jordan peterson level garbage.
step it up kikes.

It did get to be way too late for that pigeon, fast.

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The 80/20 rule isn't real, theres no such thing as an alpha male.

today OP wasn't a faggot


You beautiful bastard.

If fucking around with shitty indie vidya games leads to motherfucking DIGRA, I wonder where the app dating rabbithole could lead?

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Well, start digging user

Holy Fucking Dick read that shit nigger. I need to reread BNW and 1984 since last time I read those was 5 years ago back in HS.

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Pedos get the rope.

Thank you for proving that the holocaust was necessary.

There really needs to be a Social Media platform called "Sensitive" or "Fee Fees" or "Aloe" (for delicate bottoms) or even a parody site called "Tenderness"

You got a heart of gold user. Don't let (((them))) take that away from you.
Personally I'd love to see all the niggers and spics go to their own countries and make them great again. I'd really rather not have to be forced into that awkward moment where I'm gun2gun with old childhood friends and what not. Just kill the kikes and let the other races do their own thing in their own lands.

Too many goons out to do anything wild.

Niggers don't even know that pedo mean pre-puberty. Girls over 9 is not pedo.

If you let your enemies live, they come back.

Are you retarded?

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When you’re past the level where nothing else exists

We’re not niggers here. Fuck off, childfucker.

Low energy as always.

This.
I keep seeing lists and things that men are supposed to do or like to really up their game, but who the fuck is telling men what to do? Clearly not other men that do these things because they like them. Women (and (((women)))) that want a man who can fix their car, do their home renovations for cheap, and cook BBQ food for them because they suck at the kitchen. Did you know a man MUST be great at making a woman cum? What the fuck is the woman doing or needing to do to land such a man? Have a vagina.

The story continues, be great, don't try to prove yourself to others.

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Just give it time user.

I'm heartless to non humans that imitate humans.
I love life.
Been on pol for years. (inb4 Zig Forums isnt pol! reee)

Great idea, but it sounds like something you might want to try to get /b/ on. If properly framed they might actually go for it.

Why? Libertarianism is another form of Jewish control.

In essence. That's also why relationships, marriage and especially female sexuality were all tightly controlled all throughout history and, frankly, still are in most of the world.

Unless there is an element of social control, women will always be hypergamous princesses. In the animal kingdom this would be fine, in human society it creates frustration and misery for both sexes.

Interesting content.

Sounds easily exploitable.

I view everything in the course of civilization now. Promiscuity, the influx of foreigners, love of money, general immorality are all signs of dying civilizations.

A person is influenced by everything they interact with. If they watch Jewish propaganda on Netflix, listen to R&B, are influenced by extreme-left propaganda, and interact with a group of friends that embody many of those beliefs, then it's almost impossible for them to not become the embodiment of degeneracy themselves. They are being persuaded to do so at every possible moment.

Knowing this, how do we find normal women that are not influenced by such things? First, you must look at geography. The further away from the West one is, the less influenced by degeneracy they will be and the more likely they are to be influenced by traditional values. This means obviously to move away from major capital cities of the West, e.g. New York, LA, Sydney, Melbourne, London, Berlin, Toronto etc. This also means to move away from major capital cities in general. Sure, Moscow might not be as bad as London, but it's likely to have more degenerate indoctrination than a regional Russian city. Why? Because Muscovites still live a relatively Western lifestyle, and interact with the West in many ways (television, movies, music, popular culture, business, tourism).

The second factor we must consider is language. English is the language of the West, and as such the West's degenerate memes are largely communicated in English. It is difficult for someone to fall for poisonous Western memes and propaganda if they cannot understand the movies, music and popular culture of the West. Therefore, English illiteracy is a positive trait, as it insulates and provides a barrier to infection from Western degeneracy.

I'm sure that there are other factors, but those two I think are the most important for finding a woman and culture that will get your bloodline through the continuing degeneracy of the Western world. Find a relatively remote geographical area where they do not speak English.

< 20% of the men get 80% of the women.
Incel filth gets the woodchipper! Set on slow, of course! -)

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So sayeth the 20%.
The pussy market has crashed.

Knowing that tinder rates by swipes. It should be easy to fuck with it with bots swiping left on every womens profile and would be funny when they only get matched with fat greasy weeaboos.

Needs to say 35+ tbh

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Also saying a 23-25 year old is too old or not good looking is definitly made by a Spencer type homosexual. 23 is fucking PRIME for mommy making.

This is Monroe at 35

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Also the 26yr old is obviously 30 and the 22yr old is obviosly 26.

This whole thing needs to be redone.

The 14-18 is a fucking mexican in her 20s.

This whole thing needs to be done by someone who knows women or at least actually looks at them. See posts >>11873796

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Yes, that is a woman with her face painted in the cosmetic kike. Besides old women means old, autism-causing eggs.

Not true at all statistically most men average 3-7 partners in their lifetime. I was heavily in the pick up scene and the 20/80 rule becomes a 10/90 to 5/95 rule if the ratio of men becomes higher then women in a area. The bitch shield becomes a force field from all thirsty men.