Which is the greater threat?
Communism is easier to recognize and thus able to be defeated
Civic nationalists are crypto leftists pretending they are Americans
If we only defeat the commies and not the civics we cannot secure the existence of whites.
How do we stop both pol?
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And by what method do we deliver?
Marxist-type infiltration of the education system?
A nation is defined by the blood of the people. If sweden is 100% arab, then it is no longer sweden. This is hard for people to comprehend for some reason
By redpilling our kinsmen, organizing them into a cohesive force, and then overthrowing the System?
But it takes forever to grassroots
I have struggled to even make people believe the Federal Reserve exists!
We need a better way to reach the masses and control them behind the scenes if need be.
This thread should be in questions that do not deserve their own threads
Also very low effort op
Get the outta here and lurk 2 more years and make a proper thread next time you fucking cuckchanner.
Saged and reported.
I left cuckchan becuase they are civies
I have lurked since inception you fuckin crypto faggot
Bring something constructive please
Do you have a few hundred million dollars, user? Because if you did, you could buy a TV network and start competing with the enemy's propaganda. If you do, you should hire me because I am a sharp witted, handsome man able to give great speeches and would make a great reporter because I do real research. And my gf is an artist and expert costume designer.
Failing that, I'm afraid that the long and hard road is the only realistic option. It's not as exciting as the race war, nor is it as cool as LARPing as Michael Weston and pulling strings behind the scenes. But it is the only sure path to victory.
We must galvanize a sizeable portion of the White public to oppose our genocide. Only then will we have options.Only once there is a base of support willing to fight for us and for our racial survival could we play at violent revolution or playing deft political maneuvers behind the scenes.
Well said.
So the only solution and only thing we should focus on for the time being is grassroots redpilling.
I like that. I've been getting better at my elevator speech and getting people to listen.
And you're right. This is a long road and I'm glad to walk it with you all.
Heil Hitler
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WITNESSED!
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I'm proud to fight beside you, brother.
civnat greater threat, everyone already hates communism, including braindead normalfags
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Maybe I may be ignorant, but they could be non-whites who have white nationalist sympathies? Or are they actually civnat?
and communism was just a tool invented by capitalist kikes anyway.
capitalism is the greatest threat, not just to whites but to all life on earth.
I made clear my pro ethno nationalism for all races. I am happy to work with any honest man of any color, but we cannot and should not live together. Many of them are ancaps who fall in line with civnats to some degree. It's really hard to have a conversation there now.
work hard all day goy and never enjoy life
nothing looks nice due to profit squeezing
work hard all day goy and never enjoy life
nothing looks nice due to abject poverty
It is the same
Self-determinism is a good thing and is often confused with capitalism in the pro-capitalist argument, but both are tools for our destruction.
Is the best scenario to first awaken people through an anti communist movement with white nationalist sympathies and then bring people into the fold once the support from the left is gone?
If the Marxists have no power they can't stop us, but if the neocons remain we are still FUBARd
Civic nationalism is a form of nationalism which means it is by it's very definition firewalls. Communism is inherantly globalist and so there is no escape from it. Civic nationalism you can just move to a white ethnostate, the only trick is founding one somewhere in the world. Communists would come after you from all over the world, civic nationalists would only care if you were doing it in their country.
No civic nationalism in it's self is still inherently harmful and it is something we should get rid off, multiculturalism and civic nationalism is basically the same shit.
Lurk 2 more years here, and he is right faggot we have standards here if your going to post a question post it at questions that don't deserve their own threads or other wise refrain from making a thread that is this low effort.
Does Civic nationalism have something to do with a Honda?
Not my post, but relevant.
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Civnats are the reason we're being bred out of existence. Commies are the lesser threat, though they still deserve and will get the rope. I wish we had the playing field Hitler had to work with. Today's commies are a joke, but civnats are actively doing the white genocide commies wish they could.
You know what's the best part?
They don't fucking know it!
What's even the definition of civic nationalism?
Communist and their use of Ethnic replacement migration are the biggest threat. They can't get people to willingly vote for communism, so they import such people and brainwash children.
Kill all civnats. They are white in name only
Civic nationalists are naive. Communists are evil.
Hitler's political strategy relied heavily on the fact that conservatives will prefer a National Socialist to a communist. In fact his party had an alliance with a conservative party before the 1933 takeover. Civic nationalists are easy to play. You just have to give them a good conscious/rhetorical argument as to why they're not racist when telling them to support something that strongly appeals to the instinctual racism deep within the mind. Trump's wall/immigration strategy is the perfect example of this. Eventually things will get so polarized that the civic nationalists are forced to start taking stances that not long ago would get you no person'd. Just look at the current situation. Tucker Carlson, an anchor on Fox News, the network Zig Forums has been calling neocon for years, spent an entire hour attacking the idea that "diversity is our strength."
We've already experienced first hand that the civic nationalists can be useful. That they will come around. This isn't 2005. If you look at the direction the right wing is taking then you can plainly see the improvement. (I know NatSoc is third position, but I'm using "right wing" for convenience) If you want to win then you need to act in the real world and try to push people further towards National Socialism, incrementally. There's no use in shutting yourself up in your room for years waiting for some perfect party to appear with decent support and that Zig Forums somehow isn't calling controlled opposition. You need to work in the real world. This is the "anti-intellectualism" that the left likes to mock us over. Because the National Socialist strategy is to constantly work for the better instead of stubbornly saying "all or nothing."
Communism, as in legit revolutionary Marxist dialectical materialist ideology etc., is not a significant problem today. civic naitonalism is much worse. But a lot of times the two come packaged together anyway. Marxism-leninism is often civic nationalist and so is maoism.
As said, follow Bismarck, realpolitik, always push right, never left.
the most subtle, insidious threat of all…
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Save it, read it again and again.
We need to make every race, not just whites, understand that the world is shaping up to be a very painful place for all of us. Whites may come out on top of a global race war despite the lopsided numbers but tens of millions of good white men and women would die in the process. We could restore the natural order of ethnostates if the other races could be convinced that it's in their mutual best interest to do so. There is only (((one reason))) that they are in our countries in the first place and they are being led to just as much of a slaughter as we are.
Race realism needs to be redone to disassociate things like accomplishments and IQ from value of a life. It needs to be shown that different races the world over vote for the same policies and concepts whether the majority or minority and every other little difference pointed out that can be used to promote the idea that separate ethnostates is done to preserve the interests of each group. The idea that groups with radically disparate fundamental views can not be governed together without violence or a concession of interests must be promoted over the idea that ethnostate advocates do so out of hatred.
The most effective way of disarming this narrative would be for a white nationalist and a black nationalist to work together to publicly advocate for separation based on mutual respect. Hatred and anger is a motivator for those already on your side but triggers the reflexive subconscious reactions programmed into normies from birth. That anger only comes from self preservation when you swallow a bottle of red pills and realize survival means embracing your ethnic identity because of the very tactics the enemy has instituted. If a white and black man presented as mutually respectful advocated for separation and presented a convincing argument then it would disarm the tools they've instituted to keep whites from having a group identity. When people then realize the modern world is a false bill of goods they will come to that same group identity and sense of self preservation but now the enemy is not the golem but the golem's master.