2020 Planning Thread

Grayson Bailey
Grayson Bailey

Now that the midterms are finished aside from a few states that need to be thoroughly scrutinized, we should start to look towards 2020 and the potential candidates that will be running. If we get started looking for dirt on these people now they won't have time to scrub it from the web.
I think there is a good chance that Michelle Obama makes a run for the presidency. She is being shilled hard right now by jewtube and the media, she has a good approval rating with normies, and she hasn't been involved in too much controversy. Does she have a penis? Maybe.
Another likely candidate is ol groping Joe, former vice president Joe Biden. He has previously been very vocally anti-Trump but I haven't heard too much from him recently. Maybe he's waiting to be shipped to Gitmo. But he could also be preparing his 2020 campaign.
John Hickenlooper, former Governor of Colorado has also speculated about making a run for the presidency, admittedly I know very little about him. He does seem to have some media support and backing from others in government.
Oprah Winfrey has said she isn't planning on making a run in 2020 but I don't think it would hurt to gather dirt on her anyways if possible. It's confirmed she's friends with Harvey Weinstein and the boys.
Other celebrity candidates that have been speculated are Dwayne Johnson, Alec Baldwin, as well as Mark Zuckerberg.
I don't think Kamala Harris has a prayer. Cory Booker and Michael Avenatti should also largely be ignored. Joe Kennedy may run but I doubt he ever recovers from having cum all over his face on TV.

Hillary Clinton has also suggested she hasn't ruled out running in 2020 but even the normies are fed up with her. Bernie will die before 2020 so he won't run.

I'd like to also encourage you all to name people you think might be prepping to run in 2020. I would also like to open the floor to suggestions for anyone possibly better than Trump.

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Benjamin Murphy
Benjamin Murphy

Michelle Obama
Nigger, incompetent, radicalizing.
If she defeated Trump in some sort of obviously fraudulent election, that would radicalize the fuck out of many Republicans and would knock a lot of these cowardly fense sitters off their fense.

Joe Biden
Boring old White guy. We must prevent White men from getting a democratic nomination at all costs. Seeing White men represented by the democrats is confusing for the poor lemmings. The democrats must be clearly and visibly the party for non-Whites.

John Hickenlooper
A nobody from nowhere that no one knows.

Hillary Clinton
A walking corpse and everyone knows it.

Of these freaks and traitors, Michelle Obama I believe would be the best thing to happen to this debased country. The more odious and ridiculous the candidates, the less faith the authoritarian conservative types will have in the System.

The System is killing us. Nothing will ever get better until this disgusting thing is overthrown and destroyed. I'll be called a "paid kike" for pointing this out but it is true. The System must be destroyed.

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Gabriel Moore
Gabriel Moore

REPEAT AFTER ME:
The political solution is a real solution and not the circus
Repeat that three times then go read your Q.

Sebastian Williams
Sebastian Williams

I have a great idea. What about a kike (D) vs another kike (R)? The kikeaphon of more kikes needs some definite kike support from the kike sucking kike population of this beautiful kike nation. Theres never enough kike for my kike sucking needs.
The political solutions to the kike problem deserves the kikiest of support from /pol.

Im sure a kike like yourself will agree.

Brayden Allen
Brayden Allen

ITT: (((dailystormer))) shills the Right VS. Left hegelian dialectic

John Turner
John Turner

I'm gonna vote all D so this country will collapse faster.

Bentley Stewart
Bentley Stewart

Don't vote all D you fool.
Vote for outsiders with no political connections.

Owen Kelly
Owen Kelly

Naw, you're on your own

Xavier Taylor
Xavier Taylor

The left does not have anyone that can beat trump currently but I can guarantee that they will pull someone out of thin air.

suggestions for anyone possibly better than Trump.
This is the real question, I seriously hope someone more right than him shows up that can shift the Overton window further to the right. But this person also has to appeal to lemmings and be electable and not a sperg. Trump has mostly served his purpose as far as waking people up to the media and the immigration issue. Time for for someone else to take it a step further.

Jacob Martin
Jacob Martin

I would also like to open the floor to suggestions for better than Trump.
Throw the bums out. People need to be replaced, whether there's a better alternative waiting or not. if you don't throw the bums out you end up with institutional corruption and an even bigger disincentive to fulfill campaign promises. The new ZOGbot requires some time to fill positions, appoint members to his cabinet, etc. That's all time wasted on administrative things that cannot be used to screw us. Throw the bums out.

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Isaac Roberts
Isaac Roberts

You know the republicans are not going to nominate someone else, let alone someone better and the democrats will be just as bad, if not worse than Trump. Maybe there are a few 'accelerationist' candidates, but i wouldn't hold my breath for someone decent.

Brayden Cooper
Brayden Cooper

Vote Little win big

Nolan Evans
Nolan Evans

Thanks for posting this, user. I almost read siege instead. You saved me.

Thomas Gray
Thomas Gray

In the end conservatives, republicans, libertarians, Zig Forumsacks and everyone else on the right will likely return to the voting strategy they've been following for the last decade. When in doubt: Vote republican. (You don't want the democrats to gain control!?)

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Xavier Cook
Xavier Cook

NO

NO

NO

NO MORE ELECTIONS

FUCK OFF!!!

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Jaxson Phillips
Jaxson Phillips

Goreposting only works with newfags, newfag. Also feel free to present a better idea that actually will work and make sense you blackpill nigger.

Aaron Perry
Aaron Perry

Well I'm definitely not voting for Trumpberg

Owen Gray
Owen Gray

normally i'm pretty sensitive to gore but when funky towns started playing i lmaoed.

Camden Gonzalez
Camden Gonzalez

Posts grouped by user ID:

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OP is (1) and done!

CUSSES IN THIS BREAD
kike: 12 <= TOP CUSS
penis: 1
fuck: 1
nigger: 1

Jayden Torres
Jayden Torres

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Ryan Wood
Ryan Wood

whichever Dhimmicuck Swamp rat claws their competitors enough to come out on top and manages to miraculously avoid the usual Clinton Body Count wet works of shooting themselves 2x in the back of the head and then drowning and then being found dead in their ranch hotel room near the vine yard will still ultimately succumb to the good ol' Guccifer 3.0 treatment of being brutally hacked and doxed and reduced to a national laughing stock as hundreds of millions of us laugh at their emails. bring it on Bolshevik faggots. the other day when Trump warned Antifa about the RWDS kicking their asses, he meant on the cyber battlefield in addition to these means streets.

Luis Sullivan
Luis Sullivan

I’m not going to vote for Netenyahoo I mean Trump again

Camden Green
Camden Green

Thinks that the solution is to continue playing (((their))) games.

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Charles Rogers
Charles Rogers

The only winning move is not to play. Then upending the board and putting your own on the table.

William Bell
William Bell

Good guesses on the dem nominees, but who would run for the repubs?

Oliver Collins
Oliver Collins

Oh look its this bot again

John Barnes
John Barnes

Country is going to shit and there's nothing we can do about it. Best play is to hide out in white trad communes and then rebuild a few of the rural areas to be more traditional. Then wait patiently until we get a real, actual leader.

Carson Richardson
Carson Richardson

A US equivalent of Macron.

Sebastian King
Sebastian King

Good idea, Just let the left go out and openly elect whatever communist filth they want to bury this place even further. Im not saying to blatantly support Trump but fucking think for a second.

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Bentley Sullivan
Bentley Sullivan

Will vote for the most retarded democrat candidate they trot out there. No thanks to another four years of baste ass kissing while hwhites get all the blame. All for a shit economy and the opportunity to working minimum wage jobs.

Jason Morgan
Jason Morgan

you all are useless sacks of shit. i've already posted a thread like this twice, but you faggots didn't want to provide your input bcuz muh natsoc goons

Dylan Parker
Dylan Parker

the truth is that none of you give a shit about progress unless the movement has undercurrents of 1) white nationalism and 2) gassing of jews. you natsoc sacks of dicks are the reason why Zig Forums is useless to the anti-left movement

Aaron Jackson
Aaron Jackson

here are the posts i made that resulted in sperging

Carter Martinez
Carter Martinez

We still hold house and senate until January 3, 2019

While it's looking grim with losing the house (and, face it, we knew we would) and possibly losing our senate majority as these new bogus democratic votes creep in, Trump still has until January 3, 2019 to get some last-minute shit done provided he can talk some sense into the RINOs who haven't been ousted yet. And that's probably a long shot since his dumb ass called them out by name in a recent press conference.

Nevertheless, it is still possible to get some bills through the senate and house for:

- Immigration reform: Eliminate birthright citizenship and deny DACA recipients the right to vote in our elections until they go through the full citizenship process. Militarize the border. Capture and do not release
- Voter ID: Speaks for itself
- Social media reform: Social media services shall not – either by automated algorithm or manual administrative action – engage in the practice of banning, limiting, or promoting the viewability, discoverability, or interactability of any user account or user-provided content unless it is violation of any US law

These are key to ensuring that we have a chance in 2020. If we allow illegals to vote in our elections and social media monopolies to control the flow of information and create a false appearance of democratic majority, the damage done by 2020 will be irreparable and we can all just kill ourselves. Right now, things are still salvageable. We just need to find a way to get an urgent message to Trump and his administration. Hopefully, he's smart and already knows his days are numbered unless he utilizes this remaining time. In case he isn't, a contingency plan would be helpful.

And if you're a natsoc goon who wants to do nothing more than shit in this thread without contributing to a solution and instead run around calling everyone a shill and a jew and just be an general overall faggot defeatist, get out. We do not need you.

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Samuel Barnes
Samuel Barnes

We skated by this election with but the hair on our balls, and you can attribute the majority of the left's victories to the advantages they pull in tech, social media, and accademia:

* All levels of academia from K through college are indoctrinating our children to believe that republicans/conservatives are the scourge and excrement of the known universe. With each passing year, more and more of these indoctrinated snowflakes reach voting age while the oldest of our generation die. You can finish the math on that.
* Social media and tech are monopolized by leftists like Mark Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg of Facebook, Jack Dorsey of Twitter, Sundar Pichai of Google, and Susan Wojcicki of YouTube, all of whom have cultivated leftist monocultures within their organizations. With unfathomable power to silence dissent and change our culture at their fingertips, they continue to suppress non-left-leaning speech all across the internet. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely, and you can be 100% certain that they are abusing their leverage to nefarious ends.

Because the house is now split, you can pretty much expect nothing to get done within the next two years as far as pulling the reins on tech and social media are concerned. The senate could propose a bill, but it would die instantly in the new democrat-controlled house. I don't even believe an executive order can be used to regulate social media. Therefore, I think Trump needs to either 1) endorse and provide funding for existing social media sites like Gab or 2) create his own. It rests on Trump because, any time one of us tries to create an alternative social media site, the big tech monopolies in place shoot it down. Just look at what's been happening to Gab. It doesn't help that it was infested by NatSoc goons, either, something else that will need to change if we want to move forward.

We also need to work on academia which Betsy DeVos could have a huge hand in. The radicalization of our youth by teachers and professors who use their position as political platforms must be stopped. If this continues, the next election will be overrun by a whole new wave of radicalized young voters who hate the republican party without even knowing why. This combined with social media's promotion of left-leaning voices and you have a recipe for defeat in 2020.

All that said, we need to begin mobilizing now and get our message out to those who have close or direct ties to Trump and his administration. He needs to know what's truly at stake. Now that the RINOs know they are no longer welcome, regaining the house in 2020 should be a top priority as we will finally able to inflict some necessary damage. I say we compile a list of the most important people in Trump's cabinet and political circles and hit them with non-stop emails about what needs to change if the party wishes to survive in 2020.

People I can think of:

- Brad Parscale, Trump's campaign manager
- Betsy DeVos, Secretary of Education
- All GOP senators and house representives

Lastly, don't fucking tell me

<hurr durr we're not republicans here

Fuck off. You don't get to decide what Zig Forums is and who it's for. You can screech all day long about how the republican party is cancer, but 10 to 1 says you were in every single iteration of the Midterm Election threads yesterday rooting for the republicans and mining the salt from CNN and TYT, so you can go fuck yourselves.

Jayden Rivera
Jayden Rivera

It's working for SA

Asher Clark
Asher Clark

NOTICE HOW THOSE POSTS ACTUALLY BEGIN TO LOOK FOR A SOLUTION

doesn't matter to you natsoc faggots, though. you care NOTHING about any movement to combat the left. you're only interested in hunting down j00z. you voted for trump because you actually thought he was going to gas the kikes. instead, he put his hand on the great wall of kike and now you're all so butthurt that you hate the republican party more than the dems.

Landon Collins
Landon Collins

That's actually a natural and organic "building burp"
t. NIST

Matthew Price
Matthew Price

There can be only 3 viable candidates

-Jim Webb (JFK 2.0)
-Rand Paul
-Patrick Little

Everyone else including orange blumpf can fuckoff.

Dylan Cook
Dylan Cook

ur a blumpf

Caleb Gomez
Caleb Gomez

You forgot Eric "Duke Nukem" Swalwell.

Chase Taylor
Chase Taylor

this guy gets it.

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Jackson Miller
Jackson Miller

We control the house
We
The traitorous republican ZOGbots do not, have never and will never support our agenda. Go back to /r/the_zognald, there are plenty of delusional, roleplaying featherheads like you.

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Sebastian Ramirez
Sebastian Ramirez

We
ZOG
top fucking kek the spambot is right

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Ryan Harris
Ryan Harris

You're like fucking NPCs. End yourselves now

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Daniel Robinson
Daniel Robinson

When a bot spams the board and you react with a bot-like response, it says everything that needs to be said about your dead movement. natsocs BTFO by a bot lmao

Adrian Sanders
Adrian Sanders

The levels of reddit are getting out of hand. Fuck off and kill yourselves.

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Asher Mitchell
Asher Mitchell

anything i don't like is reddit
how about you kill yourself instead? we would all be better off, you useless vestige

Jackson Richardson
Jackson Richardson

it says everything that needs to be said about your dead movement. natsocs BTFO by a bot lmao
Lel, I'm glad for it. Underestimate it to your hearts content.

Caleb Lopez
Caleb Lopez

muh south africa
The cry of a retarded, defeatist trumpnigger who's never known anyone from fucking South Africa and gets all his news regarding SA from trumpnigger news aggregators.

I lived next to a family from SA, they were simultaneously the most redpilled and bluepilled people I've ever met - serpentza on youtube, the chinese government spy is probably the best representation of your average SA citizen you can find online.

These people never had the advantage, especially in a post-Rhodesia SA. Most whites left when the following things happened:
Rhodesia fell
restrictions on hunting in the northern parts of SA, rise of poachers, and restrictions on hunting in the rest of the southern nations of Africa

They maintained society with Apartheid, and then were guilted into giving it up. Most of the whites, especially military minded ones either left or joined mercenary groups(who don't give a fuck about race, only who pays them. which is usually oil companies defending pipelines, water companies defending purification plants, and the odd building owner who wants a form of repo only a bunch of /bigguys/ can deliver)

Whites were always a minority. The situation there could never ended in their favor. Rhodesia and the Apartheid state were merely band-aids for an eventual problem. It would have either ended with guilt, or by niggers violently rising up and taking back what they see as theirs(or in the case we're in now - both) \

In America there are three major differences:
whites still have the ethnic majority
fukken second amendment
there's a lot more living space

In SA there's only so much space, and there's already too many niggers. How do you see that ever being a winning situation for whites short of the Boer somehow convincing the UN to go full exterminatus on the local flora and fauna. America is a much different story. Even if every city were thoroughly given the Johannesburg treatment there would still be undisturbed rural towns that niggers simply cannot get to due to distance and climate alone.

Shove that muh south africa shit up your ass, trumpnigger. The Boer need help, not your faggot ass using them as a republican bargaining chip.

Juan Scott
Juan Scott

suggestions for anyone possibly better than Trump
How about Steve King
Steve "culture and demographics are our destiny. We can't restore our civilization with somebody else's babies." King
Steve "Some claim that the Arizona law will bring about racial discrimination profiling. First let me say, Mr. Speaker, that profiling has always been an important component of legitimate law enforcement. If you can't profile someone, you can't use those common sense indicators that are before your very eyes." King
Steve "There's been legislation that's been brought through this House that sets aside benefits for women and minorities. The only people that it excludes are white men… Pretty soon, white men are going to notice they are the ones being excluded." King
Steve "Wilders understands that culture and demographics are our destiny" King
Steve "Diversity is not our strength. Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Orban, 'Mixing cultures will not lead to a higher quality of life but a lower one'." King

Gabriel Lopez
Gabriel Lopez

Face the reality, natsoc goony boi. Every one of your natsoc figureheads gets shoah'd from the public square. Tell me, what ever happened to Paul Nehlen, Patrick Little, and Art Jones? Do you still lock yourself in your closet and jerk yourself off to the idea that they might make a comeback? Do you?

Evan Reed
Evan Reed

where'd your republican jew figureheads get you?
several thousand more buh-ased DACApedes and red flag laws?

seems to be working well. someone already got killed when the government came for his guns.
And it's all BASED daddy Drumpfie's fault

James Gonzalez
James Gonzalez

Would dems be a better alternative? Trump did what he could with a congress packed with RINOs. Don't get me wrong: I am still pissed at Trump for dilly dallying around with pointless shit when he could have been pulling the reins on big tech and social media, but a dem-controlled congress would have us far worse off on all fronts. You're too stupid to realize this, natsoc faggot.

Aaron Sullivan
Aaron Sullivan

Would dems be a better alternative?
No, neither political party helps the cause. They all shill for israel and don't give a damn about White America.
Don't get me wrong: I am still pissed at Trump for dilly dallying around with pointless shit when he could have been pulling the reins on big tech and social media
Completely irrelevant. Even normalfag boomers aren't hooked on facebook anymore and more people are adopting the European and Asian model of forming groups within private chat apps like WhatsApp and Discord. These are harder to censor because they're simply harder to patrol. Even chinese government sponsored WeChat can't be effectively censored because too many people use it. Big Data is dying and neither party will have much of an effect on that

You're too stupid to realize this, natsoc faggot.
And you're too stupid to realize that by shilling for republikikes you're just prolonging the inevitable. Keeping everyone happy for too long just leads to stagnation and then before you know it you're a minority in your own country and the battle is lost before it even started.

Angel Carter
Angel Carter

the cause
As if your dying cause is the only cause. The… lmao. You're NPC'ing everything the user said here:

the truth is that none of you give a shit about progress unless the movement has undercurrents of 1) white nationalism and 2) gassing of jews

White nationalism is dead, idiot. Deal with it. Your kind get shoah'd every time you poke your stupid fucking heads up out of the sand. Why don't you just stay down where you belong so that the rest of us can make actual progress?

WhatsApp
Discord
Nobody uses these. Nobody mobilizes on these apps in large numbers.

by shilling for republikikes you're just prolonging the inevitable
What is the inevitable?

Lucas Gray
Lucas Gray

Be SA accelerationist
Vote to end apartheid so that your people will finally "rise up".
Get killed by niggers.
Accelerationists get the rope too.

Jaxon Howard
Jaxon Howard

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We're going to tear your balls off, Aaron.

Julian Foster
Julian Foster

Don't argue with Aaron Lawson, it is a waste of time. We should instead be focused on tracking down and killing Aaron Lawson.

Isaac Morgan
Isaac Morgan

Have total legislative control for 2 years
do fuck all
2 months left
WE'LL PASS ALL THE BILLS, MAGA
Imagine being this retarded. And you have the audacity to call others goons. You MAGAfags are the biggest spastics on this board bar none. What's going to be your next shill narrative when January rolls round and you've still passed nothing of note.

Ryan Campbell
Ryan Campbell

He'll blame in on the Democrat controlled House and ignore that Trump did fuck all for two years.

Noah Jenkins
Noah Jenkins

Have total legislative control for 2 years

Have total legislative control for 2 years
john mccain
jeff flake
alaska bitch

Jace White
Jace White

Shouldn't all effort be spent on redpilling the public on the Jews, rather than trying to elect a slightly less Kosher candidate?

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Zachary Campbell
Zachary Campbell

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Lincoln Murphy
Lincoln Murphy

support the people who want to let in 1 million immigrants every year because at least they're not the people who want to let in 2 million immigrants every year

Aiden Mitchell
Aiden Mitchell

People support way too many candidates, it's almost impossible to avoid supporting crooks when you support dozens of candidates every election cycle. Support less candidates. The poorer you are and the less time you have, the less candidates you should support. We don't want the good guys to almost win, we want them to win.

Zig Forums electoral politics 101
1. Run for office yourself, you are the only person in the universe that you have full control over.
2. Support only a small number of fully vetted, dependable candidates with a long history of sharing your worldview.
3. One good guy in office is worth more than all corrupt, coin-operated politicians combined.
3.1. Once you made the decision to support someone, support him with all you've got to ensure his election.
4. Don't waste your energy on losers, turncoats, questionable characters and people you have not personally vetted.
5. Throw the bums out. Once a politicians has shown himself to be a turncoat he needs to get the boot.
6. Electoral politics is extremely inefficient. There are better ways to change the world.

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Kayden Collins
Kayden Collins

If those 2 (one is dead) are the problem then what difference is it going to make from now till January? They're still Senators, so how is that MAGAfaggots plan of pushing through legislation in the remaining 2 months going to work? Spastic.
Also, 11 Republicans voted against the WH's most recent immigration bill. 6 Republicans voted against repealing Obamacare, of which Flake was not a apart of. You're a moron if you think it was just those 3 that were the problem, but you MAGAfags will still shill for voting Republican.

James Butler
James Butler

Would it not be easier to find the worlds shittiest candidate and shill them hard to Normalfags, you wont need to dig up dirt on them. Just wind em up, watch them self destruct then get reamed in the debates. It would be alot easier to win if Trump is running against a potato (social retard i.e Zuckerberg).

Juan Morales
Juan Morales

You're an NPC!
Just keep voting for the politicians with little red "R"s in front of their names!
That'll fix the system
But YOU'RE the NPC if you don't keep mindlessly voting for the little "R" bots!

Alexander Long
Alexander Long

We still hold house and senate until January 3, 2019
We
As far as I know, I'm not a Jew nor a Jewish supremacist.

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Oliver Howard
Oliver Howard

Telling you guys, the main runners are going to be "democratic socialists" like sanders, not far left wing like the supporters he had, but his mindset will shift to become the mainstream of the liberals, it already has. Thats how their party has gone, further and further left over time.

The next group of nominees who are in serious contention will be those with mindsets like sanders, so look for those types. Not the shillarys or bidens, even the tranny obama is probably to "moderate" at this point to really inspire their base. Yes, he is liked by them, but he is also directly linked to the gay obama who is not well-liked by the vocal left because he was not "far left enough" he didnt go far enough, he was to soft. They want someone like sanders, but with a spine and a pair of nuts.

THAT, is the kind of person you need to be looking for as being the prime candidates for their nomination in 2020. Mark my wards, that is the kind of person they'll have up and be supporting hardcore

Oliver Ramirez
Oliver Ramirez

I don't think you need to bother with 2020 planning. Its almost certain that both parties will run good goyim that will put the boots to our throats. Trump has proven himself to be a fraud and that democratic voting is not an option for us now. The number of attacks that are aimed to turn the consensus against nationalism will increase and they will enforce stricter measures on hate speech and gun ownership, just to name a couple of examples. Many place their hope in Trump, many were suspicious but voted anyway and others knew it was all a show so didn't bother.

I'll probably be called a shill but I think the peaceful route for white Americans is over.

Landon Murphy
Landon Murphy

/thread

GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW

Joseph Jackson
Joseph Jackson

ONLY ELECTIONS MATTER GOY
TEEHEEHEE YOU HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO SUPPORT
(((OUR))) CANDIDATE

This is an angle I haven't seen much of, civcucks cry about muh naghtsiz making their negro worshiping anti white leaders look bad when these idiots constantly get caught up in scandals and throw their supporters to the wolves to save their own hides.
Look and Gavin Mcanus and how he sold out his "proud boys" when they got into fights with antifa.

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Joseph Ramirez
Joseph Ramirez

Why are your democrat NPCs wearing MAGAhats?

Hunter Johnson
Hunter Johnson

HAHAHAHA
These fucking shills.

Jose Ward
Jose Ward

Who cares.

Joseph Reed
Joseph Reed

This is why I hate accelerationists as well, might as well become a defeatist and give the fuck up if you desire to make it living hell on Earth for your own kind. Every war won is always because one side never ever gives up the fight and keeps on pushing, postponing, delaying, subverting and stifling the other's chances to claim victories. Same here going on in America…. you anons think this 2nd Amendment issue is something new? Fuck NO. They've been trying to ban our guns forever, and we've been pushing back against it every single fucking time!

Landon Davis
Landon Davis

might as well become a defeatist and give the fuck u BECAUSE ALL YOU CAN DO IS FUGGIN VOTE
Spoken like a bluepilled faglord.

Joseph Butler
Joseph Butler

Accelerationism done wrong is giving your enemy what they want.
Accelerationism done correct is essentially burning the place down and forcing the System to enact policies that alienate itself from the masses and causes the System to lose support and collapse.

Joshua Carter
Joshua Carter

There's also this other option where you just don't vote and prepare for the next civil war.

Elijah Smith
Elijah Smith

Voting in national elections is virtually irrelevant except maybe in a swing state. Maybe.
However, that does not mean one should avoid politics and just stay home playing with your guns and counting food. Politics is unavoidable and being involved is the path to victory regardless of whether or not a civil war happens.
Also, this whole "Just wait for the civil war. It's coming any minute now…. aaaaaaanny minute now…… aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaany minute now. Don't worry. I have a strong feeling it's gonna happen any minute now" strategy is retarded.
Become involved in the political process not by voting but by actively taking part in government.
That way, you could actually help START the civil war or be in a position to capitalize on it if it happens.

Jordan Brooks
Jordan Brooks

politics=voting
Retarded plebian logic that keeps the bread and circus going. Do yourself a favor and read about the civil wars that ended the Roman Republic: the heads of politicians from both sides were put on the speaking platform and no legislation was able to be passed. War is itself politics by other means, ever heard that before? Hmm?

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Caleb Gutierrez
Caleb Gutierrez

I would like to point out that you can influence an election without casting a vote with the banter and memes produced about whoever is running. This is difficult to do in advance because these memes are often topical and concern recent actions by an already established candidate, but my intention making this thread was more to brainstorm who might be the most likely contenders for the nominations. For example if we were to spam twitter and youtube comments with anecdotes of Joe Biden being a pedophile creep or Michelle Obama saying some ignorant bullshit we could swing people's opinions of these candidates before they ever start their campaign. Or if we could create media that diminishes the importance and respect of a person like the edits of Obama stuttering for 50 minutes. I more wanted to direct energy towards the future and brainstorm potential targets for that energy.

Jaxson Baker
Jaxson Baker

Plan on losing
Plan on losing everything
Plan on open borders and no one will do a single thing to stop it

Jace Wright
Jace Wright

politics=voting
I never said that. Argue the point, not your strawman

Research wars that happened 2000 years ago to predict modern wars
Why not wars that happened 100 years ago instead?
Also, the people who won the Roman civil war had taken my advice and were deeply involved in politics. That's why they won.

War is itself politics by other means
That's kind of my point.

Josiah Bennett
Josiah Bennett

banter and memes influences elections
lol what a sad life you must live

Landon Lopez
Landon Lopez

memes are just one of the forms of rhetoric of today, they're punctual and effective at making a point

Carter Rivera
Carter Rivera

Went door to door 2016. Swung multiple voters having conversations at their doorstep on Syria and the Iraq-Iran-Syria pipeline. Flipped my state red.

Austin Hill
Austin Hill

Argue the point,
You'll have to repeat it because it sounds like "politics=voting". You also never refuted my counterpoint that war is itself politics by other means.
That's why they won.
Caesar won through military generalship, you know nothing.
That's kind of my point.
Then you don't even disagree with anything that I just fucking said.

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Brandon Long
Brandon Long

it's all so tiresome…
i hope drumpfy will keel over in 30 days or less.

Liam Bailey
Liam Bailey

"Memes" do nothing, period. What little effect you thought they has been subverted by the people you were trying to subvert. From pepe to the NPC meme.
You're the tool of kikes then, congrats.

Jonathan Jones
Jonathan Jones

You also never refuted my counterpoint that war is itself politics by other means.
Why would I refute what I believe?
If you reread my post, you'll learn that I said that voting is irrelevant. Instead, one should become INVOLVED in political action. Voting is about the least involved you can get other than staying at home.

Caesar won through military generalship
Implying that his political manuvering that won him the war before it even began was not relevant
Surely you are not actually this stupid.
The entire war was fought BECAUSE of politics you historically illiterate child. ALL civil wars are political in nature. In fact, the whole reason for the war (you probably don't even know so I'll tell you) was to secure Caesar's political future. You see, Caesar's entire plan was to run for council after his governorship in Gaul in order to ennact his reforms. However, the conservative bloc in the senate had thwarted this plan via some legal hokus pokus and thus Caesar was FORCED to engage in the civil war.
In fact, if you had actually studied that war instead of blindly bringing it up in your ignorance, you'd know that all throughout the war, Caesar kept returning to Rome to run in political elections. He eventually elected himself dictator just so that he could engage in a legal loophole that allowed him to run for council that made his war legal.
And after the war (and during it) Caesar went out of his way to make everything he did appear legal. He even forgave half of the senators who had fought against him just so that he could make his councilship appear legitimate.

So in short, you literally know nothing about the war you are attempting to use as an example. Shut your fucking mouth and READ about the things you ignorantly bring up you dumb nigger.

Grayson Davis
Grayson Davis

political action
By the agreed-on understanding of what that entails, that could very well simply be civil war. So what the fuck do you mean by this phrase if not that?
The entire war was fought BECAUSE
The entire war was fought THROUGH war, I point out the how and then you try to shift the conversation to the why when we already established that fucking war is politics by other means. This is either a giant non-argument or you're just too much of a pussy to tell me what you specifically want me to do.

Kayden Brown
Kayden Brown

You're on serious drugs if you think there was any benefit from Hillary Clinton being elected. We dodged immediate genocide. This is a game of survival.

Levi James
Levi James

Actually good posts.

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Oliver Gray
Oliver Gray

that could very well simply be civil war
Civil wars are politics by other means. However, the victors of civil wars have laid the groundwork for their victory BEFORE the war begins.
What kind of idiot waltzes into a civil war before he has made sure that he will win?

The entire war was fought THROUGH war
What the fuck are you even trying to say here? "War is fought through war"
That's about as profound as saying that water is wet.
I am pointing out what you seem to not understand and that is that the war was fought in order to advance Caesar's political aims and was a part of a larger, far more important political conflict.

you try to shift the conversation to the why
<Why would we want to know WHY a war was fought, dur
If you aren't interested in why a war was fought, why did you bring it up?

a giant non-argument
tell me what you specifically want me to do.
My point remains the same. Engaging in the political process is beneficial REGARDLESS of whether or not American enters a state of civil war.
Specifically, I suppose you'll have to decide for yourself based on your abilities, means, and circumstances. Also, it depends upon your style. Do you want to help nationalists get into positions of power? Or would you rather help sabotage the System by helping incompetents and race baiters get into power in order to alienate and radicalize people? Or something else? That's your call but just sitting around and waiting for a civil war is stupid. Far better to actually cause it so it happens on your terms.
After all, that's what Caesar did.

Austin Ortiz
Austin Ortiz

The "Radicalization" of our youth is ultimately self defeating, though. Children and teenagers are the biggest non-conformists ever who despise any kind of authority, and the left has poised themselves to be the biggest authoritarians on the market.
Isn't that problem self-correcting? Did you listen to any of the coked-up nonsense they pushed onto you when you were going through school or did you silently mock it with the rest of your classmates as being lame shit that only out-of-touch adults worried about?

Jeremiah Ross
Jeremiah Ross

We dodged immediate genocide.
Except that immigration levels never fucking changed you dumb fucking neocon shill.
Engaging in the political process
If it's not war or voting then WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

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Xavier Lee
Xavier Lee

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
How on earth can I become more clear?
Become INVOLVED in the political process.
That means go to your local government and figure out how things work. Then become involved in this process.

Elijah Stewart
Elijah Stewart

go to your local government and figure out how things work. Then become involved in this process.
So you were too much of a pussy to admit you're a votecuck.

Adrian Bell
Adrian Bell

Strawmanning again.
You aren't very bright.
Voting is irrelevant. Politics is not.

Nathaniel Roberts
Nathaniel Roberts

He seems alright, if you try to ignore the fact that he’s a Zionist

Nicholas Hall
Nicholas Hall

lel any progress or is it just a bunch of defeatist natsoc faggots talking about jews and shills?

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Michael Sanchez
Michael Sanchez

things haven't gotten better therefore it was a failure
THINGS COULD BE A LOT WORSE NIGGER.

William Sanchez
William Sanchez

You don't even know what politics means.

Sebastian Kelly
Sebastian Kelly

Things never fucking changed under Trump.

Jack Morris
Jack Morris

No shit retard, no one ever expected them to change. But we are holding up the house of cards till we have enough people on our side to win the war.

Angel Anderson
Angel Anderson

Politics is simply the means by which an agenda is accomplished.

Jack Martinez
Jack Martinez

we
kill yourself
Oh wow, very profound.

Jeremiah Bennett
Jeremiah Bennett

Focus on the Democrats. They're incapable of doing anything w/o the Senate and never deliver what they promise when they do have total control. They're limp dick fuck-ups that need to be replaced with a new party.

Adrian Jones
Adrian Jones

Your temper tantrum aside, what I have said in previous posts is actually profound. I encourage anyone to read what I said and your own schitzo responses to them.
Put simply, the argument over whether or not one should vote is actually quite silly. The political system is set up in a way that our votes count for nothing. We could vote for Trump or for his opposition and the results would be the same. Voting would only matter if all of Zig Forums was located in one district and only then if the district was hotly contested. Since this is not the case, voting in a NATIONAL election is irrelevant. If that was the only thing that concerned us, I'd say just stay home and hug your wife.
That's more productive than voting for Trump or Jill Stein

However, our goal is the overthrow of the System. Thus, we are going to have to take part in the political process to do two things
ONE; get into positions of power
TWO; cause policies to be enacted that destroy the System.

The Republican party and democratic party are irrelevant. The only thing that matters is IDEOLOGY and RESULTS.
Anyone advocating that we vote Republican because Republicans are the lesser of two evils is being a fool. But anyone who advocates just waiting around and hoping for a civil war is also a fool. Cause it yourself.

Ian King
Ian King

lol spambot wins again

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Hunter Baker
Hunter Baker

we are helping jews
i say so lol
go vote goyim
/reddit/index.html

Owen Rogers
Owen Rogers

and it's never gonna get tired of it, just like us man

Julian Robinson
Julian Robinson

Even a Kamala Harris/Michael Avenatti ticket for the Dems will still receive support from the entire kike apparatus and they’ll end up winning in 2020 because our demographic reality is only getting further bleak and nothing will be done about it. In any case, it matters not who they try to push through as a candidate or whether or not Republicans have a solid replacement for Trump: voting will not change anything. What matters is anons waking up and realizing that other measures will have to be taken. Fuck Trump, fuck Republicans and like Commander Rockwell said, TO HELL WITH THE RIGHT WING!

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Isaac Morris
Isaac Morris

eat
shit
votenigger

Jaxon Reyes
Jaxon Reyes

It's gonna be Beto/Michelle Obama. Screencap this.

check em

Jayden Myers
Jayden Myers

Trump's going to lose to a woman.

Oliver Morales
Oliver Morales

nice black pill chaim but what are you suggesting pol is a board of peace

Sebastian Allen
Sebastian Allen

This would be true if Trump had done something.
He hadn't.
He had two full years of control of the house and senate and pissed it away. No immigration reform, No wall, No family planning initiatives, No financial reform. The only thing he seemed to have completed are some tariffs that the next person in line will simply repeal.

Globalists are still in sitting positions of power in government. Both teams are still playing the same stupid game. And both teams are still made of the old-school politicians who created the rules of the game we're playing now.

It's only going to take one more globalist, and we'll be in Iran, then Syria, then maybe we'll still have the GDP and force projection to take on Pakistan.

All this globalist has to do to win popular appeal is be nonwhite. Maybe even a woman. If he matches either of those categories, they're in. Full stop. The social cancer eating away at our society still has too much sway, despite the fact that it's slowly starting to retreat. The retreat isn't happening fast enough, and the damage being done to society while speaking out against it is still considered heresy will be irreversible. No laws have been passed guaranteeing equal protection under the law for political opinions, and more and more people are falling out of society as they realize that the way they feel is simply unwelcome.

So, tell me, how did we dodge anything again? It still appears that we're simply whirling the drain of the behavioral sink.

Joseph Price
Joseph Price

NAFTA dead
TPP dead
Paris Climate Accord dead
EU on its death bed
Brexit may actually happen
ISIS defeated
40 year unemployment low

yeah he didn't do nutthin

Owen Myers
Owen Myers

You're overplaying the dem's hand. Kamala Harris would bomb as a candidate because she's a short woman who believes in nonsense that 50% of the democrats do not believe in. Michael Avenatti is despised by the democrats as well as republicans of this country.

The fact of the matter is: both political parties are splintering. You have young, progressive liberals protesting outside the office of the face of the democrats stronghold for the past three decades for not being socialist enough. You have republicans scrambling to find candidates who look like Trump and only coming up with a sea of RINOs, a voting bloc that's still more powerful than Trumptards simply because of numbers and statistics alone. Both sides are exterminating their incumbents and putting in people who seem as radically different as possible with zero political experience.

Literally every single twitter post (by the way, great source, that twitter) can apply equally to the democrats and I can easily find democrats stating it about their own party. The fact is that the system is failing on BOTH sides.
Now, you can complain about republicans being worthless all you want, or you can try to leverage the democrats failing. Either ways, the party that picks up the pieces first is going to be the winner for the foreseeable future. Neither of these parties are in a position to run with a united front, which is why Trump won in the first place.

Pic and article related is a perfect example of this:
newyorker.com/news/current/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-nancy-pelosi-and-the-democratic-battles-to-come-in-2019

They're declaring at this point that white people cannot represent the party and that all of them need to be replaced because all of them are inherently racist and cannot comment on the state of african americans or any minority anymore. If they try this, their party will fail. It will fracture apart and become as ineffective as a political protest. Please explain how this is not apocalyptic for the Democrats while you bitch and whine about Trump not being very effective (like most Republicans). If anything, Republicans have the upper hand considering that their party still hasn't split among racial divides, yet.

So you can keep bitching or suggest ways to unite the party before the other side does.

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Jacob Collins
Jacob Collins

I guess he should say that he didn't do enough with the cards he had. That list should be at least twice as long considering he was completely unopposed for the amount of time that he was.

Also some of what you listed is simply things that would have happened anyway like TPP dying, the EU failing (hey guys lets import tons of low-IQ people into our successful society no one will hate us for that), ISIS becoming irrelevant, and no-deal Brexit occurring. That's simply Trump screaming at the Titanic to sink, and it happening to sink.

Right-wing attitudes are starting to flourish all throughout the world as a counter to the authoritarian rhetoric of the left, and that's by far the biggest catalyst for change in politics than someone getting elected to presidency.

Levi Edwards
Levi Edwards

beto

Ya know, when I said above , beto is probably the closest I've seen to a candidate they'd run with who is close enough to sanders that he'd get the nomination. Like I said above, the left just keeps pushing further left. Sanders "democratic socialism" was just slightly to far left last time, but it still came in a close second. With the election of trump it pushed the left even further left, meaning, now sanders mindsets will be the new norm

So, again, be looking out for people LIKE sanders, or beto, running in 2020. Those the ones likely to take the nomination in the increasingly further left democrat party

Mason Roberts
Mason Roberts

I think it's safe to say Trump didn't expect things to go this way. He still has to play politics, and it's more effective to serve two terms than to do one term and get everything done you wanted. Stretching it to two means you have more time to slowly enact your plan, more time for judges to go away so you can replace them, less time for your agenda to be overturned by the opposing party. Not to mention the second term is basically
I don't have to bother trying to get re-elected now, I can do whatever I want!

He basically revived the Republican party, he more than likely thought he'd be much more well received than this. Instead, we he got the Republicans splitting into pro-Trump and anti-Trump factions. And the drawing in the line makes it obvious who is supporting this country and their party and who is not. Because you have a group of politicians who have a chance to really revive and improve the Republican party, and they instead chose something higher kikes and zog than their own party and their own country.

If anything, I think Trump under-estimated how many politicians don't give a shit about the USA and have much more important interests and priorities. And that's why this last election went so poorly and why he hasn't been able to push as much of his agenda as he could have.

You are assuming the primaries will not be rigged, like last time. The establishment still holds power in the Dem party, enough to cheat elections. They also have that bullshit superdelegate system. Meaning those young socialist Dems have zero chance of making it.

The 2020 election will be a repeat of the 2016 election for the Dems. The party will be split between young socialist radicals and the more "moderate" old base. The old base will cheat to get their candidate in. The socialists will become even more radicalized and disenfranchised with the system.

Established Dems know that a socialist isn't going to win a nationwide election, mainly because of the electoral college. If it was popular vote, they could fucking illegals and dead voters in cities, but they can't win with that.

The Dem primaries are going to be a fight between the young, white hating socialists and the "moderate" Dem establishment. And the establishment is going to win, since they've rigged the game.

It's going to be extremely entertaining to watch. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw something like Clinton Biden, Clinton/man-o-Bama, etc. with a very strong fight from the socialists who get crushed in primaries due to bullshit.

Dem party already established stealing the primary for someone like Hillary would be accepted and most of those commies in the party will end up voting for whoever they chose, just as long as they can work up the base into thinking the Republican opponent is the most evil thing to ever walk the face of the Earth, and you have to vote for a Dem, no matter how bad they are, to stop it.

Robert Price
Robert Price

NAFTA dead
Literally still in force and completely renegotiated to be worse.
TPP
Everything in it has been signed into law separately.
climate accord
The one that is 1. Still in effect and 2. The US was never part of, you mean?
EU
STILL EXISTS. ZERO EVIDENCE THAT IT’S COLLAPSING.
Brexit
may actually
Yeah, see, THEY VOTED TO DO IT, BUT THE VOTES ARE BEING IGNORED. SO NO, YOU’VE LITERALLY JUST PROVEN YOURSELF WRONG.
ISIS
Except Israel still exists. Thanks for using their codeword and exposing yourself.
unemployment
GOOD GOY. SLAVE AWAY FOR THE JEWS. WORK IN THE JEWISH ECONOMY TO PRODUCE JEWISH GOODS AND PAY USURY TO THE JEWS. THIS IS A GOOD THING. IT WOULD BE BAD TO BE UNEMPLOYED. IT WOULD BE BAD TO RISE UP. IT WOULD BE BAD TO KILL TRAITORS AND ACTUALLY ENFORCE THE LAW FOR ONCE IN 70 YEARS.

Kill yourself immediately. Reported for being a redditor and supporting Trump.

Justin Gutierrez
Justin Gutierrez

reported for being a /leftypol/ shill

Kayden Sanchez
Kayden Sanchez

Florida and Georgia were trial runs for 2020, these fuckers are testing the waters to see how much they can get away with. If we don't get rid of electronic voting machines and institute national voter ID to keep the spics from voting, 2020 will be lost before it even begins.

Adrian Jenkins
Adrian Jenkins

I think there is a good chance that Michelle Obama makes a run for the presidency.

stopped reading there

Adam Phillips
Adam Phillips

Gab infiltrated by Natsoc goons
implying that's bad
You sound like a republicuck. Do you even hate jews?

Jaxson Gomez
Jaxson Gomez

they'll rig it
superdelegate system

They adjusted that system after last time. You also forget how hard the far left has been working at replacing as many of those positions in the DNC with their own people as they could. And how on guard and aware they'll be while voting during the primaries because of what happened last time

No, they over played their hand FORCING shillary in last time and they kicked the beehive of commies in their own ranks. And yes, even though they didnt win the white house, they DID still have over 60 million people who voted for the worst most vile criminal on the planet that NO ONE likes except people who only cared that she had a cunt.

No my friend, you are stuck thinking the past will repeat itself beat for beat because you imagine your enemies have been idle. You also think that the liberal base will not overwhelmingly support a "democratic socialist" when their entire party already supports the ideas. The niggers, the spics, the durkas, and so on, they ALL want free shit, and their white liberals will happily vote away their own peoples future for it, because in their minds "race doesnt matter," of course in the minds of their nog and spic and poo "brothers in arms" race is ALL that matters and most of them are just waiting to get into full power to kill all races that arent theirs and subjugate them

Regardless, you have this mindset that we're just on repeat here.. no my friend, the commies have been kicking the tape deck and the media in its fervor to bash trump has pushed the left further left as well… make no mistake, someone sanders like will absolutely win the primary, and frankly if Trump doesnt get his head out of his ass, they'll win the white house as well if for no other reason than that the DNC nation wide rigging machine will be used in their favor

Grayson Lopez
Grayson Lopez

Don't forget, the Dems already have two candidates who are already running. Their names are John Delaney and Richard Ojeda. The mega kike (((Bloomberg))) might also run as a dem.
Finally, don't forget that if Pat Little or any other of /ourguys/ run for office, no matter which party, you should support them and only them.

Nathaniel Peterson
Nathaniel Peterson

muh dems
Nobody here is a neocon republikike.

Zachary Hughes
Zachary Hughes

What is the history behind this video?

Jackson Martinez
Jackson Martinez

if i want all the jews on earth to move to israel does that make me a zionist?

Isaiah Kelly
Isaiah Kelly

What the hell are you talking about?

Evan Turner
Evan Turner

I was being pretty straightforward.

Luis Phillips
Luis Phillips

he thinks he can just vote himself of this rigged game

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Logan Bailey
Logan Bailey

Just because I said the word “dem”, that makes me a neocon republikike? For fucks sake, I even said I support Pat Little. I’m confused by your accusation

Joshua Green
Joshua Green

So you are saying the Vietcong run the US? The fuck fuck are you trying to say here?

Colton Ortiz
Colton Ortiz

Just because I said the word “dem”, that makes me a neocon republikike?
It's suggestive.

Jayden Bennett
Jayden Bennett

Maybe you should read the rest of my post. That should get rid of your worries. How can I be a neocon republikike AND support Pat Little.

Charles Rodriguez
Charles Rodriguez

Eric"Enola Gay" Swalwell
Eric"Give up the guns or feel the sun" Swalwell
Eric"Minuteman for the minutemen" Swalwell
Eric "Megaton" Swalwell