Forest Fires

This picture is everything that's wrong with Canada and America.

We can't permit our forest to grow bushes and deadwood and 9 feet of fallen leaves. We need to send high schoolers, college kids and volunteers to clear all forests of bushes, fallen branches, deadwood and litter.
We need to husband our forests!

Preventing just a single forest fire eliminates more CO2 than the entire human race produces in 5 years, if global warming cunts were serious about avoiding their shitty apocalypse theory, they would be all for this. But we all know they just want you to pay a carbon tax to Israel for every exhale until one day they decide to revoke your exhaling license and you suffocate for being a bad goy. But environmental groups like (((Sierra Club))) ensured that husbanding forests is illegal in North America.

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csiro.au/en/News/News-releases/2013/Deserts-greening-from-rising-CO2
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sierraclub.org/press-releases/2018/10/sierra-club-statement-shooting-pittsburgh-synagogue
Yeah, go ahead and kill those faggots if you want. I wouldn't lose sleep over it.

This is the most retarded shot. Forest fires are GOOD. It provides nutrients for the soil by breaking down the dead weight.

Retarded OP, most fires are caused by drought. I live in the big thicket and we never have issues with fires because we usually don't have droughts. Even when we do have droughts I suppose we have less retards like you that go out and pretend to play woodsman.

No, we need to let shit burn naturally and stop trying to put out every natural burn.

Husbanding forests if good though.

Letting them burn is husbandry.

Forester here. This may not come as much of a surprise to anyone, but the government is fucking up forest management more than anything else. Here in the southeast, the vast majority of forested land is privately owned, but if you want to hire someone to make a fire line, odds are you'll have to pay out the ass for inefficient state agencies: it could be done with one or two guys and a bulldozer, but the state always insists on sending six guys who stand around and do nothing on your dime, and folks end up just not bothering because of the price. I can't even imagine what it's like out west where almost all forests are owned by the government. Or, well, I guess we don't have to imagine, we can see exactly how well that's working out for them.

Some type of trees actually thrive off forest fires.
Let them be.

Up here in Washington, the government loves to have volunteers do all of the work in maintaining the forest lands, and then take the credit for themselves.

Those fires were caused by D.E.W.'s, also rhymes with JEW

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Small areas of forest (a couple of football fields at a time) burning over a period of years is beneficial, since most animals and insects can escape it, and it gives time for the forest to regenerate. Massive fire covering an entire coastline every year is fucking insane.
This is not natural you morons, STOP PRETENDING YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, and fucking forget the 12-16 years of green centric (((education))) you had.


Is that why it happens in Canada and Siberia and other places not experiencing drought?

Sounds like it occurs mostly where retards like you reside.

Now try to visualize the jew who wrote the recent law that allows Canadians to smoke weed in forests. What I was trying to get through with this is that you're arguing common sense against people who live for deliberate destruction.

WE WON'T BE HAPPY UNTIL SAN FRANSISCO'S BURNING

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That's what the comments are talking about, small forest fired. It isn't feasible to clear out the hundreds of thousands of of acres of forest, but it is feasible to just let small fires burn.

And they should be doing prescribed burns. It's the only way to prevent out of control fires.

It is extremely natural part of ecology of places like California. California to huge extent is a massive mistake. Los Angeles-San Diego megacity shouldn't exist, especially with as massive population as it has and with insanity tier suburban sprawls that are common to almost all major US cities. Those cities shouldn't exist in a way they do today. Southern California is mediterranean climate on coast that turns quickly into arid-semi desert with vegetation that in natural conditions rely fires to thrive. Go bit further inland and you have desert. Same goes with Las Vegas that too is artificial city that is way too big for it's location. Too many people to sustain on water resources at hand, depleting ground at pace far faster than it replenishes.

How did the forests of the world ever manage to survive for millions of years without highly trained professionals like yourself constantly doting on them?

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I'd like to know what kind of forest the fire started in exactly. I doubt a diverse forest with undergrowth and mosses statred it, rather it was a more monoculture, barren forest with little natural habitat and a vast bed of dry undecayed woods. There would lie the source issue, thus no need for state forced youth labour/slavery. If they get paid tax dollars it's still slavery.

They probably didn't have aluminum in their fucking vacuoles from it being aerosolized, cunt

If you let yourself burn, you win.
-Cucktin Trudeau.

I can definitely see how an element as flammable as aluminum permeating the trees contributes to the severity of these forest fires and necessitates frequent arborist attention.

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Why does the Sierra Club feel the need to publish a press statement on a synagogue shooting?

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Many smaller fires much more often, (((idiot))).

A) Since their evolution about 300-500 million years ago, trees didn't have millions of hairless monkeys redirecting rivers, lighting fires in them every year, littering flammable materials or broken glass bottles to act as lenses.

B) I'm not even vaguely interested in the survival of a "forest" so much as I am in the THRIVING of a forest. At one point in history north american forests all got cut down by a massive tsunami, and they grew back without a problem. Not the point.

Not really.

Leftists forest planning ensures a 1000x more deadwood accumulates than is normal.

For example due to weight restrictions in logging, a logging company must strip a trunk of all extra branches before moving it, because they're penalized for removing a certain amount of mass of wood from the logging area. The tons of branches and dead wood they leave behind turns into a freaking powder keg.

This means any fire, even small fires, are completely uncontrollable and cause a massive blaze that spreads over huge areas exterminating entire species of animals and plants and damaging forests irreperably. For example there is a blaze in California almost 100 years back that was SO HOT that it cooked the soil ten feet deep rendering it sterile. The area still hasn't recovered.


Are you arguing for the extermination of people in Calfironia? I don't disagree per-se, since it would return the state to a natural rhythm of biology in a few decades… but the point is that this isn't feasible. Given that people live there, given that their retardation produces a fucktonne of deadwood, we also need to have policies for removing that deadwood.

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Aluminum is an astringent, the topsoil around the world is covered in it and it's fucking up plant life and causing desertification.

academic.oup.com/aobpla/article/doi/10.1093/aobpla/plw065/2609624

if these numbers are correct, that means the environmentalists are responsible for a majority of CO2 emissions in the last 10 years. Meme it well and you might even get them to commit suicide.

because they have TDS?

From some old Sailer posts:

Back in the 1990s, the wealthy couple of David Gelbaum and Monica Chavez Gelbaum bought the Sierra Club’s soul for $100,000,000 on the condition that they drop their immigration restrictionist stance and thus their stance against population growth in the U.S. and in the Sierra Club’s home state of California. This epochal switch has largely disappeared down the memory hole.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Muir
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Gelbaum

"He had given the organization a total of $101.5 million, according to The Los Angeles Times, which wrote what is perhaps the only major profile of him, in 2004. In the article, he is quoted as saying that he told Carl Pope, the Sierra Club’s executive director, in 1994 or 1995 “that if they ever came out anti-immigration, they would never get a dollar from me.”"

That sounds like a massive problem, and it looks like the satellite evidence supports your paper's test tube hypothesis on a global scale.

csiro.au/en/News/News-releases/2013/Deserts-greening-from-rising-CO2

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Stop avatarfagging.

How can we convince major cities that are immune to these fires to use "environmentally friendly" building materials that are extremely flammable?

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LET IT BURN.
So called "global warming" will probably end up causing a mini-ice age which is the natural habitat for White people and will kill off the jew-nose phenotype.

Why do these types always have to make such a fucking production of even the simplest things? A quiet walk in the woods or a night spent camping isn't enough; no, they have to have some bullshit "communing" ceremony (and take pics for their social media of course). It's all so tiresome.

Check out a Scottish forest , widely spaced rows you can drive a truck through. If there is a fire a standard fire truck can drive trough at 30 miles an hour. Also great for hunting can spot deer crossing rows at great distance.

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The forest industry/fire industry is burning down the forests because they make double their pay every year from it. We need fire bumps (small hill) and fire lines cut, that's it.

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Leave nature alone, faggit

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Looking at the retards in this thread posting avatars of paintings to make themselves seem smarter to even dumber people, I seriously doubt the average leftist can even make the correlation between those two events.


>mate we should turn it off and toss a jew in
See what I wrote here, the few paragraphs in the first section
Also see what this and this gentleman have said.

Ideas like "just leave it alone" and "fire is good" simply don't fly given how much we've FUCKED with it already.

When high energy fuel is allowed to accumulate, the eventual fire is far hotter than what would have naturally occurred. Even seeds needing fire for release are incinerated. Nutrients are altered and rendered useless. It is far more damaging than nature intended.

I'm quite intrigued by that idea, big cities of California are a massive cesspool of degeneracy. In ideal situation Los Angeles and San Diego would be big cities as those are pretty ideal locations for ports, to size those cities are now, they should be never been built in first place. Those should be major port cities, but far smaller and more compact cities that those are. Combined population both metropolitan areas should in low single digit millions. At this point relocating the population is impossible until the water conditions get so bad they will voluntarily leave.

While Las Vegas is tangential topic to forest fires, that is potentially the most insane location to locate what is in Las Vegas. Casinos, entertainment and tourists. Industries that could exist anywhere, but are where those are most likely due to local laws.

the only noticeably sane person in this whole thread

Of course these monocultures will burn with nothing but deadwood on the dry ground, and it is exactly what they need so that actual forests may grow in their place. Kinda like the state of society today isn't it?

tl;dr every inch of california forests used to burn every 4 years before people

researchgate.net/publication/222529083_Prehistoric_fire_area_and_emissions_from_California's_forests_woodlands_shrublands_and_grasslands/amp

1.8M ha/yr = ~4.5M acres = ~7000 sq miles
Cali only has 28000 sq mi forested area. That means natural fast-burning fires would come through any given section of forest once every 4 years on average, clearing out the deadwood and needles and refreshing the understory while leaving the big trees intact. It also means those fires covered the state in smog and haze. White people brought fire suppression because smog after going out there for gold, so it's the jews fault.

To return the region to the way it was is also to return massive constant smog to the PNW.

An alternative available in the near future is automated forest floor harvesting for mulch and compost. After a preliminary sweep for deadwood, have robots gather and deliver most of the shit on the ground to processing sites and automatically report newly fallen trees. This only works if you don't have niggers and spics who go chop the robots apart for scrap metal. Once again, it's the jews fault.

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That's not how averages work you fucking dunce.

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