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to all the retards trying to discuss weapons this badly, please stop

no, nuclear parity (capacity to pull off a first strike) no longer depends on ballistic weapons (the b in icbm) because dumb outdated ballistic weapons have predictable trajectories
HYPERSONIC WEAPONS
are what you are supposed to care now;
mach 10+ speeds (10 times faster than the speed of sound, which is a relative value due to atmosphere thicc-ness but around 350 meters per second at sea level)
you have composite alloy fiber materials with central mounting, which allow never seen before heat survivability
the plasma that occurs around hypersonic (vastly different to supersonic btw, shitty supersonic is just mach 3+) absorbs all radio waves, making these weapons legit stealth and also plasma also disperses terawatt (tera means 12 zeros, folks) polarized laser beams, making them currently unstoppable (unlike shitty ballistic weapons) oh and i forgot
THESE THINGS CAN ACTUALLY MANEUVER AT HYPERSONIC SPEEDS

dont even want to mention laser scramjet engine, type of ramjet engine which is a type of jet engine where you have lasers igniting air currents for propulsion

u dont know shit about weapons which is why
N A Z B O L G A N G
is going to win in the end

None of what you're talking about is relevant to the point being made by the first poster in this reply chain, which was that fixed launch sites are a meme.

We’re fucked aren’t we.

Does it even matter when each side has enough bombs to glass the planet four times over?

but you are empirically wrong:
SARMAT
sarmat is the freshest russian hypersonic missile, first of its kind capable of transpolar flights, and able to reach any point on the globe in 6 minutes from a fixed launch
but we all know they are going to use
BUREVESTNIK
and along with
KINZHAL
hypersonic missile series developed and tested in late 2018 in presence of american and chinese officers (passing 7 tests, 1 critical failure)
STATUS 6
drone torpedo moving faster than 30 knots with 5 0 M E G A T O N nuclear payload, shich is not only undetectable (ocean floor depths) but also faster than all countermeasures and immune to naval mines

basically russians park a single status 6 near the seaboard and essentially that coast is fucked for some 1000 years because of radio isotope carrying tsunami

absolutely
in nuclear strategy, there is (was) a nuclear parity, meaning 2 (or more) sides will kill each other off
today, hypersonic russian technology just broke the nuclear parity, meaning russians can now pull of a first strike and 'kill usa', dead usa cant fire back

almost instantly trump in mid 2018 announced withdrawal from inf treaty (and syria, and ukraine, lmaooooo) and development of exo atmospheric weapons where americans plan to restore the nuclear parity, which prompted russian anti air defense which involved nukes being detonated above moscow to protect moscow… wish i was making this shit up by they plan on finishing this monstrosity by 2022

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Except via our sub fleet, obviously.

jesus christ you fucking retard, you are making me angry now
fire with what? trident? minuteman?

russia is a tiny fucking landlocked country, all its seas are frozen and all warm water ports blocked by nato straits, russian industrial core is now around ural bunkers, that's whole russia, a tiny industrial core in the urals
how the fuck do you imagine to submarine nuke that?????????

american exo atmospheric delivery vehicle is still in development, while hypersonic technology non existent (as far as the public information is concerned, they were testing hypersonic x51 airplanes, yes airplanes since the 70s, but those all burned down)
as far as the [current year] is concerned, there is no nuclear parity at the moment and americans just blew up some atoll in the pacific testing a new missile but atm yeah im right usa doesnt have with what to strike at russia first while russia has

Telling people to read a whole book for a point is kind of asinine though. Here it is straight from his mouth.

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Yes Trident, it has a publicly acknowledged range of >7500M, far more than enough to easily cover the entirety of Russia from the Pacific, Atlantic, Mediterranean, or (when the ice is clear enough) Arctic seas. Moreover, the fleet has 400 of them at sea most of the time, for a total of 3200-5600 warheads depending on loadout, sufficient to flatten Russia and anyone else we felt like several times over in a retaliatory strike.

MAD is still in full effect as long as both powers have fleets of SLBMs floating around not to mention, IMHO, the high probability that spies have secreted remote detonated nuclear weapons into major enemy cities for decades.

s400
cold war meme

basically you are like a century outdated dood, get with the times

Is, always has been, and always will be 100% snakeoil. The countermeasures used to protect missiles from defense are inherently cheaper, easier, and more numerous to make and deploy:
ucsusa.org/nuclear-weapons/missile-defense/how-gmd-missile-defense-works#.XFu4-uZ7lGo

Those things don't exactly have a long shelf life, so… probably not.

jesus christ this is like a trainwreck but i just cant stop myself from staring at it

even the most basic point defense and kinetic kill vehicles are cost effective against missiles today
you are quoting literal 1980s technology and some fucking mathematically illiterate journalist without a faintest clue of what he pretends he knows about

do you seriously think that the most strategic, the most competitive, the most phds hiring (phds that matter here), the most secretive, the most financed sector of the most powerful nations are still stuck with… 'confusable sensors'?
son just how many satellites do you think are around in all the orbits? its a military secret officially, but in truth they lost count how many secret launches they carry out per year, every other weather and communications/commercial civilian satellite could be armed with a missile destroyer for all we know

the new way of delivering nukes are the hypersonic vehicles that do not even have a need for space but are hypersonic capable even at low heights where the atmosphere is most dense
we aeronautics now

It's more like SAD, since climate scientists figured out nuclear winter in the '80s. Self-assured destruction.

And it matters for nothing because the number of nuclear strikes required to 'kill USA' before they could strike back (retarded anyway) would propel enough ash into the atmosphere to guarantee nuclear winter.

who fucking cares, its subzero temperatures in eastern europe already and siberia has enough fissile matter to keep us warm and food producing for as long as it takes us to emerge as the total planetary permanent overlords for at least like 15 centuries if the first strike hits

The GMD system they're referring to is a technically similar system that was developed and deployed at about the same time as the S-400. Moreover, the UCC aren't "some journalists", they're the foremost authority on the failings of "muh winnable war" propaganda.

The simple fact is that missile defense, even in the far simpler application of theater-scale combat operation, has demonstrated what may well be an 0% intercept rate in terms of the ability to destroy a target, rather than merely winging it in a way that would be wholly insufficient to disable or knock far enough off-target a nuclear weapon. Even in controlled tests, intercept rates (and the authenticity of the conditions in those tests) are absolutely laughable.

ABM is pseudoscientific pork, period.

son
your ballistic missile (ballistic means predictable trajectory)
it has to pass through a cloud of satellites
any of those satellites could be a warhead itself, put there for the sole purpose of fucking up your missile and all of its warheads

not even to mention regular combat air patrols over all relevant airspace already at around 70 kilometers above ground, and the stationed drones above that that have both point defense, kinetic vehicles AND the [current year] sensors, not some decimeter or centimetric radars that they used back in the 80s which is what you are quoting

and those dumb journalists, even if they have a graduate degree in the most piss easy disciplines like.. organic chemistry and civil engineering (guess they are scientists, of sorts, they practice scientific method on a superficial scale) they do not have access to the secret bunker labs and constructor yards which produce hypersonic gliders that outclass icbms categorically

you can still blow up the earth just not with icbms that shit is cold war tier outdated now

I'll just pretend you didn't say that
Absolute liquid dogshit flimflam at least you didn't mention "muh x-ray pumped masers":
allthingsnuclear.org/dwright/space-based-missile-defense
The system described in that article was deployed in the 2000s, just like Russia's.

i really dont get your stubbornness
first of all, modern radar ignores decoys, second of all even almaz antey can knock down a trident class icbm at the price of 400 million $

i mean here are the things you know nothing about:
aesa en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_electronically_scanned_array
dipole antenna en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driven_element
noise figure en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_figure in a radio frequency en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_frequency

i mean this is complex masters level electronic engineering but still, 'radar dont real, decoy equals magic' 80s nonsense where they could trick radars with rubber balloons or whatever the heck crazy times of icbm they had back then, worthless today

This is all bullshit snake oil from the military industrial complex. Never even heard of any successful prototypes of what you are describing.
Regardless theres an huge difference between a science experiment and an arsenal that stand up to the rigors of combat.
Trump got out of the nuclear treaty because they want a nuclear war with Russia, war drums they've been beating long before 2018.
You sound like a fucking Popular Science article predicting warp drive in 20 years because a few physicists think they got the math right.

Bullshit. Decoy technology (among numerous other countermeasures to ABM) has trivially outpaced sensor technology:
ucsusa.org/nuclear-weapons/us-missile-defense/countermeasures

all you have to do is google авангард, it is a tested weapons system and first two operational divisions will are getting deployed in mid 2019, while russian ministry of defense made it public that it wants to have at least 20 divisions, some for the ground forces, some for the air squardrons, some for the submarine platforms, some for the strategic missile command, etc

cant believe how technically illiterate you people are, thinking 'tech dont real' even tho the testing was so successful it is part of the public knowledge now

OR
Nothing has changed. There is no counter to mobile ICBM launchers, and there never can be.

Yes, the fact that you are so incredulous of this possibility shows how much of a no history books capitalist bootlicking brainet you are.
American is rife with weapons that were straight up fundamentally ineffective.

Then link some English language sources you Nazbol fash fuck up. I'm far from technically literate but if you wanna humiliate me you're gonna have to cough up some fucking proof.
You telling me no one has written about all this "common knowledge" in English.
All your sources are probably going to be weapons manufacturers or as I said before, very fragile science experiments

my sweet summer child
russia has first strike capacity, its mach 20 warheads which are undetectable would wipe out continental america, this is called avangard if you feel like reading, looking at the letters, recognizing them, figuring out words, etc

all america has is its f35 killing sukhois, fine, f35 is superior, but minuteman and trident are simply unfit for the delivery of nuclear warheads today, i have
F U C K I N G P E N T A G O N
backing me up here, they identified this themselves as a big threat to the united states and putin even seized the opportunity to gloat about this at a un security council podium

jesus fucking christ, is the whole world in cahoots to trick us that trident still works 50 years later? do all russian mod speakers and pentagon generals agree with each other when they say american nuclear parity and strategic sector, dominated by lockheed "give me 100 trillion $ for what russians do for 50 million $" martin and raytheon "we are exactly the same as lockheed martin"?

And then Russia would be raped into a glowing crater by subs
I'll bet you do, since they'd love an excuse to keep pouring taxes into the pointless moneypit that is ABM.
Which is, like all fighterplanes for the last 30 years, completely obsoleted by BVM missiles.

What's your favorite? I like the anti-nuclear bomber SAGE radar system that cost $1 trillion which never worked and carried on for 25 years.

great, i didnt finish a sentence like a retard

basically:
nato aeronautics is monopolized by lockheed martin and raytheon, two companies that charge trillions of dollars for what russian companies such as almaz antey, rostoc, roscosmos, sukhoi, tupolev and uralvagonzavod build for millions of $
and no i didnt mix it up, seriously, what usa produces for trillions these particular companies produce for millions $ and each is specialized, for example almaz does all the radar and anti air, currently it is estimated that s400 that almaz produces IS the best anti air system in the world, first large scale tested in the war in syria

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Agreed that American weapons are absurdly overpriced. China is cheaper than Russia, but even Europe's arms industry is usually far cheaper than the US's.

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Tough competition between the B-1 Spirit, and the V-22 Osprey. One couldn't be kept functional enough to take off, the other couldn't stay in the air long enough to avoid a nearly 100% death rate for crews during development.

Oh my god, this guy sounds like Khruschev talking up a Space Age nuclear arsenal that is really just three silos with missiles that run on vodka.

No, it's definitely the Bradley Fighting Vehicle. Even the name says, "we have no idea what this is supposed to be."

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Kek, that one was so bad there's even a movie about it.

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jesus
once we get a
N A Z B O L G A N G
socialism going on, you will be the first one to get 40 years in the uranium mines for breaking the revolutionary codex of not being an utter fucking retard

oh oh oh and vodka is 40% alcohol while the most primitive but functional enough i guess jet fuel could be made out of 80% alcohol so "missiles that run on vodka" are theoretically possible, and even used briefly in ww2 during a few extraordinarily desperate phases

Yes, and?

I nominate this post for Post of the Year.

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look it up if you dont believe me, we have too many propulsion and aeronautics brainlets itt

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ICBMs are already capable of hyper-sonic speeds.

The kind plasma-based magnetohydrodynamic technology your describing has been researched and tested by the US air force since the 80s, although to give credit where credit is due, it was first proposed and researched by Soviet engineers in the 60s. One declassified craft that uses a very similar, limited form of the technology is the B-2 Spirit.

You may have a point that traditional anti-ballistic missile systems may be outdated due to secret and semi-secret advances in military technology by the US and Russia, but there are other theoretical means of counteracting hypersonic strike planes and missiles, that I would be legitimately shocked if Russian and the US aren't developing.

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this is… this is beautiful

ICBM's still are relevant as part of MAD in that you can't destroy them so the enemy will launch them in the counter-attack and already be airborne by the time your missiles reach their silos.

see

The idea is that you can't sink ICBMs, they don't have to make their way into firing positions and you always have contact with them. So where a sub might be out of communications for half an hour as it evades being hunted by the enemy, this is not the case for ICBMs.

You see Ivan, if you are of bomb sky, Americans cannot use to deliver American bomb

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after torched earth we get torched air