Great thread.
I'm specifically interested in things like how they got started off, and how they interacted with the legal/above ground elements and how they helped eachother. These seem important. Most people are interested in the sexy conflict and explosions but at the end of the day, getting the people together and getting them supplied with networks of people money and resources are the deciding factor in weather or not any group, peaceful or not, ends up doing something or ends up being a jerk-off
History and Analysis of the IRA
David Rogers
Ryan Harris
bump
Colton Nguyen
Quality thread OP. Really interesting read.
Landon Nguyen
Pretty much, yes. Especially with the Provos.
Don't get me wrong, they do envision an Irish-Socialist state. If you mention that they're nationalists who want (Irish) National Socialism, they get all befuddled. But it is what it is.
Their socialism is a bit confused, but it isn't really all too important to them as you'd think. If you asked most of them whether they wanted a socialist state or a united Ireland, you know which one they'd pick.
Okay, so first of all, the USSR did not provide any meaningful material support for the Provisional IRA. Even the "original" IRA never received a single gun so far as we know, from the USSR and at most received several thousand dollars for information on the British military. But the PIRA didn't receive squat from the Soviets. Their largest suppliers of arms were compatriots in the USA, Libya, and sympathetic government and army officials who lost track of certain weapons.
Secondly, did it never occur to you that maybe I actually knew of the Marxist sympathies of the 'original' IRA? I mean, I wrote all this history and analysis of them and mentioned it several times in my OP so don't you think that maybe I knew that already? You're probably the 12th person to remind me that the IRA were Marxists.
Thirdly,
You know, this is actually an interesting topic of intense debate even in academia. Can a revolutionary organization overthrow a government without a patron state? There are examples of this occurring without (significant) foreign support. However, many scholars on the subject such as professor Alan Dershowitz (and yes, I know he is a jew. You don't need to inform me of who is a communist and who is a jew) maintain that this is impossible in a 21st century context.
And we could argue for hours if you like. I would actually really enjoy that as I'm not allowed to talk about terrorism and revolution with many of my associates.
But suffice it to say that I disagree. The reason why so many revolutionary organizations have foreign backers is because it's easy to accomplish. There are dozens of competing global factions that rejoice at the opportunity to fund rebels in other countries. And even today, the kikes are not the only powerful scumbags at the top of the roost.
But the support that these organizations receive is simply money, information, weapons, and sometimes bases to operate such as during the Rhodesian Bush War. And I'll gladly admit; states are wonderful at providing these things. But they do not have a monopoly on them. It is very possible for a revolutionary organization to get information, money, and weapons from other non-state actors. This is done all the time and not talked about. Yes, it's more difficult. Yes, it's risky. But it is far from impossible.
Owen Walker
This is an excellent critique. I shall devote more time on my next analysis on just this subject.
With the Provos, they already had an organization going into the conflict and I figured that it would be tedious to talk about how the original IRA organized because it was so long ago.
But the short of it is that the Irish had had extra-legal organizations that met in secret for decades. This formed the political backbone of the future Irish state and had legitimacy in the eyes of the Irish themselves. This is critical to the success of a revolutionary organization. This is the difference between simply being hunted terrorists, hated by all and a full fledged guerrillas capable of conducting massive attacks upon the regime and even holding territory.
I will get into this subject a lot when I talk about everyone's favourite teeshirt; Che Guevara
Anthony Scott
three posts, all shit-tier blackpill posts
Sure activates my almonds, you disgusting kike
Mason Edwards
Imo the clearest lesson from the IRA is that limited counter insurgency campaigns do not work.
James Moore
That's relieving to hear. The last I heard, Ireland had become much like the rest of Europe, what with the Abortion vote. Knowing that some people over there still care is enough to cheer me up.
Again, this thread was a delight to read. Looking forward to your next post.
Ryder Martin
just neck yourself anglo scum
Asher Fisher
Are you autistic? Or did you not read any of my posts?