So explain this to me…
We live in a world where we'll soon be able to grow people - start to finish - in artificial wombs, and then modify them anyway we like (see CRISP, gene therapy, etc.) even after they've been born.
So why does "race mixing" and the like still matter? Seems like soon (within a generation) the entire point will be moot…
Yes because every scientific achievement announced goes perfectly to fruition. Just like those millions strong flocks of sheep clones, right?
I've also thought about this, and when it happens, it seems like everyone will choose for their child to be a blonde haired, blue eyed white.
Only the most cucked liberals will go "I WANT A BLACK KID!", who will probably kill themselves out of shame anyway.
That's still future technology. Remember that we can't even get self-driving cars right so far.
No.
GMO and cloned animals have been viable for years.
It's regulations blocking them from being adopted, but even that's changing now. Mostly in places like China.
Okay.
It's important because while that may be the future, it's still a distant one. MAYBE we have the technology in 20 years, but I doubt it'll be cost-efficient enough to work on a large scale until 2060.
No.
If we want to talk about real, meaningful technology, we have to start talking about SENS and life extension. We're the last generation that can win against jews and other nonwhites, but we won't live long enough to start the fight without life extension.
sens.org
People are still going to want to reproduce normally. I don't see people actually wanting to "genetically alter" their child unless they are rich with no morals. I feel like most people would still want to naturally reproduce the way God intended due to sex, and having families that represent the parent.
I could see genetic modification taking over in the distant future once the government mandates it and neutered the whole population.
You have to be stupid or a mongrel or both. Genetic modifying will never make race irrelevant. Even if it could, it would/will be extremely expensive and the most desirable genes are typically found in Europeans, so it's still easier to just stay away from non-whites. Plus, identity, heritage, and history are extremely important and must be preserved to prevent disaster like we're witnessing currently in the West with people being reduced to miserable, ignorant consumers and lemmings.
The best option is to just separate the races and sterilize mongrels, which would correct all problems.
Does artificial wombs exist now OP? Perhaps you can provide such info rather than being a faggot>
Everything you love will burn.
Just to add on to my post. OP provided zero links and no vids or anything.
Two lines of text with a smug frog often used on twatter.
OP is a faggot and likely from cuckchan.
True, but in the meantime, you pay a Ukrainian girl to grow your Aryan baby, then raise the child by yourself without the pozz of a female parent around to ruin a future generation and society.
Forget marriage for any generation currently alive. Maybe, maybe it might again be possible for your children or grandchildren.
The better question is why is this relevant to Zig Forums (permavirgin basement dwellers).
Womyn can be bought, user. They are not some sacred prize like the waifu in the wheatfield maymay. Their only practical use is as a vessel for Aryan seed, but again, you can purchase a woman's womb for that purpose.
If you need sex, there's plenty of whores for sale too.
Womyn are absolutely a cheap, easily replaceable commodity that no anons need to impress, date or marry.
bro we cant make a car that doesnt break down within 1 year. You are a retard.
And lets say you are right … think of costs. Its not going to be your pepe retard ass having the ability to do this
The time frame doesn't matter that much. It could be five years or fifty; The point remains.
In a world of genetic engineering and ectogenesis, race mixing and even natural reproduction become irrelevant or at best superfluous. Anyone that doesn't take that option will be left behind by those that do.
They made one a year ago for lambs, human trials are set to begin early 2020s.
It already is. Just look around. Except for affirmative action programs in places like the US, employment is based primarily on skills and economic incentives.
Individual connections and skills have been far more important than race for ages now. And will be even more so as automation cuts away existing jobs.
And the stagnation in the west isn't because of people giving up their heritage, it's because Europe has grown old and geriatric. It's difficult to prop up growth when you don't have enough young, and jobs are disappearing anyway due to automation.
Why should anyone care about the latter if they can afford it? If your race doesn't win you favors now, why cling to it?
Anyone with the means will want to adopt it. It's why Silicon Valley and places are filled with transhumanists.
Heritage and race are on the way out. In the future it'll just be a rat race between individuals adopting ever more outlandish genemods, implants, etc. Or whatever technology is conjured between now and the end of the century.
Hence the thread; In a world like that, what use are racial ideologies?
You should lurk more.
Are you employed?
racemixing is only good if you fuck higher than your race in the ladder because it makes brown people obsolete and at the worst you have mixed people that look relatively white and dont have nigger hair. if you have minority mothers it is bad, minority fathers produce mixed children and then the fathers die and all you are left with is white people or caramel people, no niggers or spics. think about it, if all black males fucked only hispanics and higher, all black females would die off because no one is having black mothers to produce black females, and then all black men would die off because after the second generation their mixed kids would look white and the dads would die and there'd be only caramel people and white people. imagine if all asians fucked white people, all hispanics fucked asians and up, etc. the world would be a lot whiter without minority mothers
No. Race mixing is always bad in all circumstances. Anything that you blend, you destroy on a cosmic level.
Mixed race mongrels have no souls.
the entire basis of evolution means racemixing but only if the female has better genes than yours, that is why people evolve backwards, is mating with females with worse genes. the entire point of sex is to further diversify your gene pool with good genes, and males are meant to attract females with the highest genes they can. If you are not white, the highest on the ladder, and you fuck your race and lower on the ladder, you are scum
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it works like blacks can fuck hispanic and up females, hispanic can fuck asian and up, asian can fuck asian and up because aryan, white can fuck only white.
That way no white people go extinct and all the races below are now whiter and all brown people are obsolete in 2 generations . Imagine a world with no niggers and spics
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>(((the entire basis of evolution means racemixing)))
Dang. That's the most jewish thing I have seen here all day.
You really have no clue what you're talking about.
Your power level is too advanced for [current year] Zig Forums
Part of Zig Forums's existential angst comes from the general loss of racial, national and religious identity that is occurring all over the hyper-aware, hyper-connected, globalized world. It doesn't just affect White people. Everyone is feeling this disconnection from the past and no one really knows what to do anymore. That is why Zig Forums is so reactionary. The world their genetic and social DNA primed and programmed them for no longer exists. Therefore, people want to retreat to a known past with a well-defined social hierarchy where White males were on top and everyone in society more or less knew what was expected of them. Of course, the "future" world that Zig Forums dreams about will never come to pass. The real future will pretty much be as you described, but that's such an abstraction from [current year] realities. The sad truth is that the generations who are alive today will remain adrift until death and the next golden age of post-human civilization will belong to a future race of beings not yet conceived or born
how would you evolve as as species if you didnt racemix? if you can say that racemixing is bad why are white people the most diverse people fucknut
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wow, this board really is going downhill
you really think the jewish elite are going to give you ANY of this technology (as if it doesn't already exist)
You are a dumb cunt, and your gf is an asian ladyboy.
White came out on top because they migrated from Africa to a region where intelligence, innovation, and adaptability were selected for. Skin became more and more pale because the northern latitudes selected for less melanin so the organism could absorb more sunlight in a cold, cloudy environment with long, dark winters in order to synthesize vitamin B better and, thus, survive. The main reason "Whiteness" is perceived as more "beautiful" is because it's relatively rare.
If the world was 99% White, nigger porn would be the top fetish.
You're a shill and you don't belong here
That's the most Jewish shit I have heard in a long time, please go back to cuckchan you Mongoloid bastard
According to who, exactly? The lying press? The notoriously dishonest and politically influenced "scientific community?"
How many times were Americans in the 50s to 70s told that we would be living on Mars by the year 2000?
Despite the claims of distraction idiots, no one is on Mars.
Hmmmm………..
Almost as if the "artificial womb" bullshit is yet another psy op to discourage White people from having White children.
First, if the tyrants are allowed to control the process they will use it to manufacture obedient slaves.
Second, genetically engineering human beings is hugely inadvisable. The potential unforeseen consequences are many, and that is even if the people behind the process had the best of intentions.
Sensible eugenics is the way to improve the health and ability of people, not genetic engineering. Of course, you are advocating for a future hellscape filled with monsters.
Because the benefits of White people preserving their genetic distinctiveness are many. The harm caused by racemixing, which is genocide, are many. Your claim that "the harm can be undone" rings utterly hollow.
Retarded. Have more White children. That is the solution.
Defeatism.
One of the main points of the ideas presented and discussed on this site is "we must say no to certain developments in society and choose a path that is better for our people."
I utterly oppose "transhumanism." I support sensible eugenics policies using enhanced in vitro fertilization with embryo screening. Better people of my Volk, not transhuman monsters.
Just because something can be done does not mean that it should be done.
You support the genocide of my people. You are the enemy.
The transhuman shithole you apparently desire would never work. You would either be replaced by robots or by some post-human strain that recreated Volkist ideals and displaced all the rest while banning further modification.
Also, attempts to implement such policies will be excellent redpill material.
You understand nothing about evolution.
The only way for a group to evolve is via purity. Speciation is the direct opposite of racemixing.
As I said above, if ZOG controls the process, then it will be used to create obedient slaves that would never even think of opposing the system.
You're understandably reasoning like a human, but you can't predict how a future post-human species will think or behave, what kind of identity they will have, or what their values will be.
Who's to say such beings will value the kind of collective, ant-like societies humans exist in? The only reason humans have organized from small, primitive bands into civilizations is simply because it contributed to better survival, more comfort and pleasure and increased reproduction success, i.e. growing populations.
I would imagine future hyper-intelligent beings will easily solve the biohazards of sickness, aging, death, or suffering of any kind, including simple boredom. They will have "bodies" which will be self-sufficient and fit for survival in any environment the universe could throw at it. If you think that seems fanciful, just consider that tardigrades are already virtually indestructible, even in space, and there are viruses and bacteria that can have their genetic code virtually obliterated and somehow reassemble themselves so they can revive when conditions are favorable, even if it takes millions of years.
We have barely a clue as to what's possible in this universe which is still fairly "young" in its own evolution, compared with what physics think its lifespan will be - trillions of trillions of trillions of years of evolution before heat death.
If I was a basically indestructible and super intelligent being, the last thing I would be thinking about is muh volk. Fuck that. Neither would I be obsessed with "conquering the world." For what? To enjoy a greater share of primitive pleasures like a bigger house, rich foods, more sex? No, I would leave this boring, little spec of shit planet and would spend eternity traversing the entire universe and discovering the ultimate destiny of existence.
We are a dying species, one way or another, either through natural extinction or being replaced by something we create that's better than us.
It's the way of nature, which builds upon its previous successes. We should gracefully step aside when the time is right, instead of forcing nature to push us aside by force. And it will, if necessary.
We are not in charge here.
Such a humanity would become little more than beasts.
Exactly. You imagine. You draw extreme extrapolations based on a very limited data set and draw heavily biased conclusions from those extrapolations.
You would see humans and human civilization destroyed and replaced with "something better." You can only describe this "something better" in fanciful "comic book" terms.
I would see my own people, who are among the best of humans, continue to develop into better versions of ourselves and to go on to build better civilizations.
Your "vision" may not even be possible. Mine is and would, with absolute certainty, create a better version of what already exists.
Furthermore, I am thoroughly convinced that it is morally imperative to preserve the existence of my own people. You would see them destroyed. You are part of the enemy.
The last humans will likely be willingly treated like pets by their successors, much like dogs and cats enjoy being cared for by humans.
Imagine if all of your needs and desires were basically fulfilled on demand by a benevolent being who kept you around for simple amusement. You might feel a bit diminished by that relationship, but you probably already feel diminished by your current employer, assuming you have a job, yet you still agree to the arrangement because it allows you get a few things you need to survive. If you're willing to "sell out" that cheaply, how much more willing will you be when some supreme sentient sugar daddy fulfills your every desire, need, wish or fantasy, either in meatspace or virtual reality, just so they could occasionally pat you on the head or to keep their "offspring" amused. Many humans would take that deal.
Or, as some people believe, some or all of us might simply choose to merge with them. It would mean losing our "humanity" but we'd gain godlike powers and immortality in return. Kind of like a caterpillar becoming a butterfly but orders of magnitude better. Why not? I'd do it.
Not an argument.
Defeatism? Nigger are you fucking retarded. More like realism. You are the one spouting defeatism constantly in this thread like a kike with a fresh cut dick.
Or we could kill them
Calm your tits, LARP Queen. You are the one extrapolating all kinds of nonsense about a future world you can't possibly predict or imagine.
I'm not wishing for anyone to be destroyed. I'm simply outlining how nature works.
National Socialists are always touting "natural law," well it doesn't get more natural than that. Extinction is a natural part of a species' evolution. It's unavoidable. The current year human replaced all of its previous evolutionary prototypes. Those "species" went extinct, but their descendants, "us" continue to live on for a certain epoch of time, until we too are replaced by something better. That's how nature works, fren. Your snowflake fantasies about human exceptionalism won't stand up to the test of evolutionary time.
I honestly don't have a dog in this fight, nor would I discourage you from struggling for a future you are willing to fight for. Go right ahead. Nature loves a good fight. The entire point of nature is competition and combat. If you win, good for you. I just don't think you stand a chance. Humans aren't all that special. I think hairy, talking apes are ultimately on the way out, but we'll just have to wait and see.
Hahahaha, yeah, that's what Michio Kaku talks about. Creating super AI robots with a "kill switch" if they get too smug. Good luck with that.
I'm sure they will find a workaround to that defense strategy in femtoseconds of time.
Better to stay on their good side and reap the benefits of their superiority.
You should ask yourself a similar question; How on earth does race mixing further evolution?
You clearly don't understand evolution. We are "diverse" because of different environmental factors influencing our genetic makeup by selecting for beneficial traits and each area of Europe (a very diverse place) selected for different traits. There is also the human element and tribal preference.
It has nothing to do with fucking niggers.
OP ressembles your last bowel movement in shape, color and intelligence.
Throwing aside everything we usually discuss on this topic for a moment, consider this: What do we (modern society) actually know about the long term consequences of this? We are even now finding ancient bones that look human and have the genetic makeup of human but are clearly of a subgroup of the same species. Take dogs for example, what happens when you mate a wild wolf with a domesticated dog? Have you ever met one of those puppies? They retain huge amounts of that feral instinct from the wolf and even if you break them in there is still always a risk they turn on smaller animals or kids.
So why is mankind any different? Are we so arrogant to think that bringing people who, quite literally, are 500+ years behind our evolutionary ladder will auto make them like us? Are we to believe their offspring won't still retain the instincts to murder, rape and be territorial over nothing? On top of that, look at the map, just look at the populations. Who has an ever growing population that is expanding and who has one that is lowering? The civilized groups are losing people and control every single day with each death and non birth and the non civilized groups are literally having 5-10 kids each. At what point does this cause a serious global issue?
Now we add the race mixing into the fray. You are taking the genetic makeup from a group that literally is the very reason mankind is secure today and not constantly at each others throats and you are splitting it with those who, again, are literally hundreds of years behind on an evolutionary chain. You think it doesn't matter? You think that this won't be an issue in the long run? Add to that the drone/mob mentality being pushed by the left and you are left with a non evolutionary advanced and non free thinking total population that will make modern day third world shitholes look like heaven.The powerful and educated will be few and control everything, mankind will stutter due to the lack of free though/free imagination of creation and the species will be stuck on earth until the end comes and, worse yet, there will not be a single group left to fight the true oppressive controlling party because the free thinkers were completely bred out of existence.
People who aren't smart enough to see this very clear and obvious conclusion are the very reason issues continue to spring up and corrupt people pushing these mixing issues continue to be allowed to get away with it.
racemixing doesnt equal fucking niggers, i actually said that people should only fuck races that are fairer skinned than them. You people have no actual real reason why you think racemixing is bad other than your hate for niggers and you have no realistic method of solving the problem other than killing people.
being brown doesnt increase your likeliness to crime lol. committing crime is not in your dna you actual autist my god
pol is so detached from reality
You sound very jewish.
Like you're setting up for some "well jews are smarter than us my fellow whites"
Don't preserve your lineage and instead become a mass-produced product created in a lab by some autistic Asian-Jew hybrid who intentionally uses CRISPR to make you stupid and subservient.
Always remember that the pro-tech propaganda is an illusion used to foster social acceptance of monstrosity.
"We'll genetically engineer you to be healthier, smarter, better !"
Maybe at first, and maybe for the rich.
But sooner or later, the third-rate knock-off version will be rolled out for the mass-consumer, and it will be a horrific nightmare that makes their life worse.
You'll be grown in a vat to serve some sadist. There is no bright techno-utopia, only permanent servitude.
impulsive behavior is highly heritable.
impulsive behavior is highly correlated to crime
sorry bud, hate to burst your bubble
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That is childish fantasy.
3rd and 4th cousins have the most healthy defect free babies, it will be ages until fully understood why.
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Who said anything about what you just wrote? Being brown, committing crime? It appears you have a personal issue or self doubt about your own self that you want to defend because I never once mentioned either. Go ahead, let's read your enlightening response explaining that away, I would love to hear what such an intelligent and non "detached from reality" individual convinces themselves of.
No he said you are detached from reality first, so he is psychologically safe, that's how it works in normie clown world.
Nope, if the Aryans go down, the Jews will go down with them. Everyone will go down together. Humanity will at last be united as a species, just as our successors show us to the exit door. It will be a comic and fitting end to humanity.
No, the white nations can easily die and replaced by Jews at this point, but the world will turn into a two bit poor desert with the rare remnant oasis which will be besieged and destroyed in a century's time.
stop touching your sister
NEVER user…you might as well just sit down and jerk off to National Geographic.
POSTING A GROYPER DOESN'T MAKE YOU BLEND IN, KIKE
For those who aren't niggerbrains:
RACE MIXING AND WHY IT'S BAD
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And then he hops onto Tor to reply to himself.
CUCKCHAN NEWFAGS:
I hope you're paying attention to how this kike shilling works.
Look at you…proving the OP is a COMPLETE and UTTER FAGGOT
Not underestanding that the ONLY reason the entire jewish shitshow doesn't completely collapse in on itself in seconds flat is because Europeans hold it together. Kikes couldn't find their own poop shoot with both hands and a map. If Europeans are extinguished kikes are dead in the water and the remaining people of the world will kill them WHEREVER they find them.
The technology is not ready yet, and do you really trust Jews to edit your kids genes????
Chances are they would engineer a slave race without you knowing it.
Fuck you. God was not meant to be played. I'll pump my nut in my wife if I want a kid and deal with the results accordingly.
this is what I'm hoping for, I can't envision any other scenario where the white races doesn't go extinct.
but there's no guarantee, we don't have it yet, so we need to keep the train rolling. the more white babies are born, the more time we stall. we need to salvage our best genes, keep them alive and pure until we can sequence them and modify/clone them
Mixed race kids are already some of the most miserable fucks on the planet. I can't wait for test-tube babies grown without anything close to a consciousness going on murderous rampages like the Supreme Gentleman himself. The other thing is you niggers and pajeets are fucking disgusting and nobody wants you around and certainly not in our genepool.
I remember reading this when we discussed this long ago and an user posted some depression/suicide material which directly linked to them. Does anyone know what I am talking about/still have it?
None of this shit works well enough to do anything useful with humans and it's not going to work for centuries, maybe ever. At most in the short run you might be able to target and remove some diseases caused by single genes, which isn't nothing but also isn't going to radically change the world. You have been fed a pack of lies. Technology, outside of computation, stopped advancing in the 1970s and has even regressed in some fields. Computers are stagnating now. You're in for a rude awakening.
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Go back to /ptg/ with that frog image
Do you think you should be allowed to fuck men's asses too since the reproduction has all been taken care of?
Wanting to have an apple but starting with a rotten tomato
because we have to remain smart enough to even get to that point for it to matter. we aren't there yet.
literally all you care about is a foreign flesh pocket. Kill yourself.
Quit pretending like traditional family life, procreation, and child rearing is going to get replaced by fucking test-tubes and gene manipulation.
I don't care how many of those "just wait for artificial wombs goyim" posts you've read or posted.
Ya know who needs to pay geneticists shit tons of money to fiddle around in a lab just so they can make a baby?
Faggots that's who
REMEMBER FOR ALL OF THE TRANSHUMANIST BLATHER ABOUT HOW UNIMPORTANT RACE AND HERITAGE IS:
NONE OF IT APPLIES TO ISRAEL
Remarkably, even with the impending obsolescence of the human species, Israel is able to justify its existence as an ethnostate.
You need to lurk for at least two years before posting newfriend.
Disgusting
Straight from the SPLC
Killing people is literally the only way to stop this genocide. Your masters will not listen to reason and leave us the fuck alone. Thus, hypothetically, the only way to realistically stop them is to hypothetically kill them.
This thread has one tor fag replying to himself, and the rest flaming him. Good Job OP. Go an hero.
I hate this science fiction autism, you retards think technology works like magic from Harry Potter. You put your hopes for the future into untested, fantastical technology, and a magical future where every Sci Fi nerds dreams become reality. In real life this technology isn't real, may never be real, and will definitely not work like the magic bullshit you see in movies. You're all putting your faith into a fantastical future that more than likely will never happen, much like Christians who use their belief in Armageddon to justify letting the planet degenerate.
Name one. Name one product that has itself been improved through genetic insertion? Hint: roundup ready plants don't count. I don't buy a tomato so I can eat the roundup inside of it.
I wish your kind would just succumb to nihilism and off yourselves so that those of us concerned with natural order, the environment and sustainability could go on living in peace.
I seem to remember mass flying cars and infintie energy promised as far as 1900's.
Call me once that future is here.
Nice thread.
Saged and reported.
See
Notice how the third post referenced was deleted. Some are learning and are changing the image names, many are not.
Unironically I agree with the idea. Really it comes down to this. Being pro white is really being pro eugenics. Asains are similiar, not all asains though, this could be said about whites aswell. I have never seen a black/brown person ever be pro eugenics atleast openly. They like all humans are pro eugenics deep down inside. BUT they are the antithesis of eungeics. Race mixing I don't agree with, but I give people a pass with asains. Most east asains are white on the inside, they demonstrate this by plastic surgery and gene therapy. They believe in perfection and are pro eugenics which is basically pro white. Problem with race mixing is the decline of those who symbolize the path of eugenics. There could be a world where the ubermesch of genes is no longer represented. How does one know perfect when they can no longer see it?Thats as blacked pilled as it gets. Ultimatelty this is the biggest whitepill, that being white people will never go extinct. Even if we become mutt topia someone somewhere with a high IQ and a heart for perfection will reignite the white race. I just think it will be harder the less we fight and will take longer to happen. There should never be cause for complacency.
They’ll slide any thread pointing this out by bumping trash. Inb4 another sage post hidden behind a pilpul.
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Why don't you inject yourself with cancer, OP?
Soon there will be a cure for it ;^)
Race mixers should be unironically burned alive until their skin matches the color of whatever untermensch they dirtied themselves with
OP, these technologies will never be available to the common man. Only the ultra-rich will afford it. For the masses of billions, breeding will still matter.
Can anyone provide a solid argument against miscegenation? I've tried various search engines, but I can only find arguments for it. All of them explaining how wonderful, progressive, and beneficial it is. Specifically, Asian-Caucasian mixtures, which I think are more damaging than the nigger half-breeds, since they are subtler in a lot of ways.
Damn if I don't fucking hate when races mix…
My grandma won't, even now with it being legal here.
The people here are VOLCELS, ShariaBlue.
INCELS are people who are just too poor to afford hiring a prostitute. You can get a blowjob from a lot lizard for $20 in many places, so it's not a high bar.
VOLCELS pass up hedonistic meaningless sex because they don't like it. Your kike shaming tactics say more about your motivations than ours.
Nope. They'll outlaw it until we're wiped out. When they do use it, it'll be to breed retarded nigger autists to be slaves.
The population of Puerto Rico.