Yeah it's all sci-fi to me until we get rid of the kikes and shitskins from our own lands. If we can have friendly international relations after that I'd call it damn near utopia. But we don't really like Turks because they are shitting up Europe right now along with all their other muslim friends. Genocide might have to be the only solution unfortunately. I wish you could get your people to fuck off peacefully.
Question for Turkish people
Liam Torres
Jordan Butler
That's probably high-caste turks though.
Lucas Hughes
Well, while I do agree that there is a general behavior that is clearly observable, that being an attitude of disrespect and entitlement towards the country that generously decided to host them, I'd like to point out some factors that should be taken into account.
Before that I'll go ahead and say that I don't agree with violence unless it is the absolute last option, but neither do I agree with the ungrateful behavior demonstrated by immigrants.
Anyways here we go: Most people, regardless of demographic I would argue, don't really think in a very self-aware manner. Think of the NPC meme, similar to that I don't expect the ignorant opportunists that run after the dollar and open up kebap shops around in Germany or various different European countries to be the deep thinking types. A lack of such awareness may cause a person to not appreciate the situation they're in as guests of a foreign country. This much I truly wish to not blame of these people. What can they do? They're just eating, shitting, breathing and living while the cultural programming that was installed in their minds drives their daily behaviors without awareness. There is a conversation to be had about how much us chatting in this thread are just as ignorant and unaware at some level and smugly pretend to be more aware, but I'll spare you. It would be a nice topic still.
So we have these ignorant fucks who run on basic programming. At this point I would suggest the host country as some responsibilities as well. For example, requests of slow integration and assimilation over them. However the cucked political climate of your countries do not allow the natural social pressures that would allow these groups to properly integrate to your society to take place. This is causing these people to further become entitled and group up in a denial of the culture of the hosting country.
Not good, however I hope I was able to point out some things. These is a responsibility on the part of the visitors to be self-aware as much as they can, but the NPC is seldom capable of this until it is pressured to do so. It is very important the host requests the visitors behave themselves. I don't wish to say that you are failing to do as it appears that you are being forced to fail to do so by powers that are beyond that of the average person. Purposeful? Well isn't this question the point of this board anyways? kek.
Genocide? I must protest against this decision! Those roaches are still citizens of my home country. Yet there is a problem for sure. What can I say. Maybe instead you should play the long con. A multi generational game. You just have to take your time, strategize, and move within society. One person can only do so much afterall, but over time many can become a swarm that can take down the giant.
Nicholas Ross
lol
Jaxon Carter
4 hooknosed kikes and a dyke, yuck.
European men haven't been spotted since the 80s, it's all soyboys and cucks as far as the eyes can see.
When Germany asked Turkey to send over arbeiters, Turkey sent the bottom of the barrel criminals, outlaws and kurds.
IQ test them all and genocide anything below 90 for good measure, you'd be doing both the Turks and the Germans a pleasure.
Justin Allen
t*rkish (((people)))
Tyler Barnes
Mason Lee
Are you a Turk? Finally one that understands? I agree with you, that it's not the fault of the common rabble of the Turks for just following their programming. There must be something along the lines of building an ethnic nationalism in these people to rewire their programming for nostalgia for their homeland. To the point where there could be a huge migration trend. And then after that, we could deal a lot easier just with the remaining bunch of hard heads in a more offensive manner.
My question is for the Turkish intellectual class. What is their involvement in this? How much do they support one side or the other? Can we do something to support intellectual groups within turkey to help move Turkey in this general direction?
I actually work at a USA school that is run by Turks. But I have NO IDEA how to bring this kinda of shit up to any of them, for there is no way to tell if I'm talking to an intellectual or just another basic programmed fool.. at least not until it's too late in the conversation.
Logan Baker
I'll just go ahead and point out the obligatory conflict of interest warning for your sentiments and the nature of your job. Do NOT bring such things up if you don't want to commit job suicide. Really, most Turks in America (at least based on my limited experiences) appear cucked politically. There is much to explain as to why this happens based on psychological research. This mainly being that groups of people take stances that advantage them whether consciously or unconsciously. Either way let's tackle your questions.
As one person I don't believe that there is much that you can do to change opinions. In terms of symbolic understanding (In the mind, does not have to be real) The media is able to do such things through mass exposure and fucking up your point of view through movies. You lack that sort of power as a single person. This way of creating feelings of nostalgia is by showing how today is actually worse for them compared to before. A fucked economy, bad living conditions, social unease etc. are things that can cause people to long for and seek "the greatness of the past" it is one of the things that can promote such ethnonationalistic view points.
The othe way is actual threat (physical) The problem here is that it is crazy to attempt anything so overt as a single person. You get violent and this may cause the group to feel actual threat which then causes them to group together (a survival behavior, familiar?) and then they may even move away. However this is a sure way of destroying any hope for good relationships with said group. An undesirable outcome I would say. Also your state stands in the way as they would view, and I would too, such physical actions as unlawful.
Personally I don't have a problem with "natural" immigration with the usual social processes that allow assimilation to take place. I do believe that there is such a thing as too much "purity" and too much "mixture". Not to say that groups keeping to themselves necessarily cause genetic disorders to pop up left and right, but it's a philosophy. With too much mixture you'd just go full circle and have a "pure" brown blob after all. I just don't like that people can't allow natural processes to run their courses.
Angel Morales
Anyways, about the intellectuals. I do think Zig Forums overestimates the involvement of intellectuals in these movements. Unless what you mean by an intellectual is not an academic or similar person, but a politician. Academically speaking I would have to say TOP FUCKING KEK. Have you looked at the education statistics lately? Turkey isn't one to be swayed by the influence of academics that have opinions that run against their favorite political figures. Now as far as political figures go, you know how Erdogan (President/Tyrant of Turkey) plays it. Like a rat, always in the middle, unless you light a fire under his ass, then he may sway to wards west or lately east. He doesn't help the situation though. I'm sure you are well aware. He runs his campaign as the "Good muslim" says some fancy Quran language and half of the country is on board with his shit. So you have kids being raised by a large group to be very islamic which then keeps being indoctrinated into this worldview by a charismatic political figure that preys on this culture further perpetuating it. Then some of these families wish to go after the Euro and get pampared by your political groups and grow to be entitled.
It's just all so tiring and complicated. Anyways my recommendation? Here it goes. Most things appear to work in a two way fashion. Nature affects nurture and nurture affects nature. Some could be said about sizes of populations. A large white population may mean that a lot of jobs may be held by whites and a many students may be white. Well how do we solve this issue says the cucked SJW and their move evil handlers and they say this "Why the way to solve this issue isn't by directly reducing the number of whites, but instead reducing their representation through affirmative action and other discriminatory policies." Artificially reduce the number of whites occupied in these insitutions and you may find that, unsurprisingly, white population size is also manipulated indirectly (catch my drift?).
I rambled enough about that. The point I was making was that if you can't as a single person change society directly for your lack of power, you may try instead shifting your energy to changing yourself in an attempt to change society. You get an education if you want, or not. But you be a good reliable individual that others will want to look up to and will want to emulate and you will find that your behavior and opinions change others. How much can this change society? Well, not at all almost. But this is why I state the importance of acting as a whole. If many did this sooner or later the impact could be felt. It's a game of patience and strategy. Using words carefully and always being the reliable competent person you wish the people to follow.
However I should also answer your question of how to help intellectual groups to help move Turkey in a certain direction. A good portion of the country are not happy with Erdogan. These are the more liberal groups that are more educated compared to the other half that are just happy being shit on by Erdogan so long as they get advantages through political "nepotism" and some other nonsense. So why not sing the praises of the educated? Sing the praises of those who support capitalistic and democratic viewpoints? Humans are not much different from dogs in that regard that we like getting pats on the head. Maybe if these groups were seen as desirable then others would want to be part of the group. Indirectly shifting said process that leads to entitled little clusters around other countries. But it so indirect, it is hard to say if anything meaningful can be done.
Shit I just noticed some of the crap I'm saying can be taken as a blackpill. Not my intention, it is smart to understand individual limitations and playing on your strengths. Plus, unless everyone on Zig Forums suddenly become experts in the Turkish language then I doubt that any direct online action can be taken to target online groups. Maybe a middle-man could be useful, but good luck finding one. Personally I would truly try the strategy of individual improvement and make it a goal to gain influence as a group.