Veganism???

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I somewhat understand what you are saying. Do you think you could provide some more examples of morals vs ethics to consolidate my understanding. I think I might have been thrown by 'killing an animal is not immoral'

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Humans evolved diet of meat. Some humans to this day still eat primarily meat (no veggies or fruits growing in the Arctic where the Inuit live now is there?).
Point being, while I try to source my meat locally and while I am working toward buying enough land to raise my own livestock, meat is important for human nutrition. These days we can supplement a vegan diet with all manner of supplements and all manner of traditionally exotic protein and fat based nutrition. At the end of the day, we are primarily meat eaters and I'm not going to stop eating meat and switch to peanuts or insects or supplements when I can just go right to the source and get what I need in the same way my ancestors did.

Yes, corporate factory farms are unethical, because the conditions and care are abhorrent to the animals, but also because those conditions objectively reduce the quality (and possibly the nutritional value) of the meat.

Thay all said, you started this thread like you were open to an objective discussion about eating animals and how that fits into the "nap", but now you seem like you're whining about "muh poor animals" because people aren't agreeing with your ethical standards regarding animal life.

I would argue that anything a naked human MUST do to survive is outside the realm of morality. Not what they want to do, just what they MUST do.
This means that killing an animal however they can, lies outside of the realm of morality.
You're arguing within the realm of ethics, regarding killing of animals. That's why this is going to be so difficult to nail anyone down on an answer that is likely to satisfy your personal, subjective standards on this subject.

You all are OBSESSED with food. You are worse than a flock of kikes, it is food, you put it in your fucking piehole. If you don't you die.

If we didn't kill MASSIVE amounts of animals, constantly, there wouldn't be plant matter to eat either because it would all be gone. That's why humans hang out with dogs and cats. The idea of universal peace is fished out of people's assholes much like free-everything or worldwide equality. It's a sweet-sounding false promise that is used to mask diabolical intentions from people who know full well that their promises expect the laws of physics to be completely different all over.

I'm not whining because people don't care. I wanted to hear people's views because I know they would different from mine my ultimate goal is to see if anybody would change my mind. Either my belief can stand up to crticism or it is I who must change my belief.