Anti-Vaxxers

Ryan Reed
Ryan Reed

So, I’m not sure what percentage of this board is on the anti-vax train, but let’s get a general outline going here.

tetanus
polio
rabies
smallpox
and many other diseases

Have either been virtually eliminated by vaccines or at least vaccines have been proven beyond any doubt to work. Pic related. Josh Hightower had received an organ from somebody who had been bitten by a bat in Arkansas and died in Texas. He received a kidney for glomerulosclerosis that he had suffered since birth. He came down with rabies 27 days later and died. Why? Because the donor didn’t get a vaccine.

Anyone who believes in this anti-vax shit is stupid. And I’m not talking stupid in a “2+2=5” way but in an actual Darwin Award kind of way. Just about every disease that has a vaccine for it the vaccine has been PROVEN to prevent disease. I just don’t see how anybody could unironically believe that refusing to vaccinate their children for tetanus after they got cut by a rusty saw blade won’t result in the child getting lockjaw. How retarded are anti-vaxxers?

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law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/300aa-22
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK216813/
journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/national-childhood-vaccine-injury-act-and-supreme-courts-interpretation/2012-01
activistpost.com/2019/01/cdcs-own-expert-vaccine-court-witness-confirmed-vaccines-can-cause-autism-so-they-fired-him-immediately.html
rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/anti-vaxxers-facebook-youtube-instagram-806504/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3870220/
vaccinechoicecanada.com/wp-content/uploads/vcc-measles-report-2019.pdf
bolenreport.com/mandatory-california-childhood-vaccines-really-made-china-no-quality-control-ever/
worldmercuryproject.org/news/weeding-vaccine-toxins-mmr-glyphosate-health-generation/
sustainable.media/cancer-industry-profits-by-nagalase-molecule-injected-into-humans-via-vaccines/
thedrswolfson.com/measles-and-mumps-infection-could-save-millions-of-lives/
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Liam Evans
Liam Evans

When was the largest sink in polio and when was the vaccine started? Sage for shit thread. Maybe you should wash more to clean up OP.

Asher Morris
Asher Morris

Well, if there’s an incurable disease and the only way to prevent it would be by getting a vaccine, I don’t see how that could hurt you. Also, vaccinations were started in the 50s, it started decrease dramatically by the turn of the decade (I think some 50,000 people were infected every year in the 1950s and it decreased to only a few hundred in the 60s) and by the end of the 70s, it was already gone by then (the last few indigenous cases were in the early 70s, IIRC, it was only a few dozen cases a year by that time). Ever since, there was only one case that happened in 1995 that was imported from Pakistan. Which is funny because the Taliban has been attacking health workers because of their retarded anti-vaccine beliefs, which is precisely why Afghanistan and Pakistan are the only two countries in the world where polio is still endemic.

Cameron Scott
Cameron Scott

trust the government goy, don't examine what we put in vaccines.
Ideally, vaccines can be helpful, and so can government. But we're not talking about ideals here.

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Xavier Nelson
Xavier Nelson

It amazes me that anyone would possibly think this post is portraying an argument that has merits.

By and large the anti-vax argument does not significantly argue against the efficacy of vaccines. There may be some back and forth about if the immunity percentages advertised are actually accurate and not bumped by 10% or so, but for the most part that is an incredibly small part of the discussion.

Larger than that is the discussion of just how much of a threat those diseases are: The common statement here is how Measles (everyone's favorite go-to) is less deadly than being put under by Anastasia. So next time you have a kid who needs to have their wisdom teeth taken out, you know what to do.

However, that too is only the most minor detail of the entire subject.

The main discussion is, and always will be, the side effects. There are a vast multitude of disorders and syndromes that exist today in far higher levels than historic records indicate they ever did before, and many relatively common ones simply did not exist before 1930.

Of course, there are plenty of Epidemiological studies on those thing, but the problem is that epidemiology is the study of how to fudge your numbers to get the result you want by excluding certain populations or groups or shaping what you are comparing. Pretty much every study on the subject is complete horse shit and no more reliable than all those scientific studies from the 40s and 50s that said Lead in gasoline was perfectly safe. The obstacle to true science on the subject is time and ethics, so at the end of the day its a hung jury.

Michael Barnes
Michael Barnes

Because the donor didn’t get a vaccine.
If he was vaccinated against rabies and we are to believe that vaccination against rabies actually works; then it stands to reason that he shouldn't have succumbed to it, either.

Noah Nelson
Noah Nelson

By and large the anti-vax argument does not significantly argue against the efficacy of vaccines. There may be some back and forth about if the immunity percentages advertised are actually accurate and not bumped by 10% or so, but for the most part that is an incredibly small part of the discussion.

Right. One common argument I hear from anti-vaxxers is that the FDA approves it so it must be bad. Basically circular reasoning bullshit. What’s so ironic about this argument is that many anti-vaxxers believe in homeopathy (there is no scientific evidence that this stuff works, btw), and yet homeopathic medicine is actually FDA-approved. And besides, the FDA approving of something doesn’t mean shit. Even if they’re profit-driven, that’s what you get under capitalism.

Landon Ortiz
Landon Ortiz

<my imagined strawman antivaxer made a wrong argument so antivaxers in general must be wrong.
There's plenty of wrong arguments to be made in favor of family, religion, and borders if you wanna try it. The heuristic of not injecting unknown substances into your body or your children's bodies is generally a safe one.

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Jordan Phillips
Jordan Phillips

Honestly I see government support to be completely meaningless on the subject for a very simple reason:

If I were in the shoes of the government and I knew, without a doubt, that vaccines did cause whatever life-changing negative condition in 3% of cases: I would cover up the evidence and endorse them.

Ignore our cynicism about that for a moment, the job of the government, supposedly, is to care about what is good for the whole. So with that as a value-set, vaccines would have to be incredibly dangerous before recommending against them because the danger is only to the individual while the benefit is to the whole.

To put it simply and comically: Even if I knew a vaccine carries with it a 5% chance of immediate painful death, I would support my neighbor's family getting it. It'll make me 1% less likely to pick up whatever disease because they'd be immune and I'm not the one rolling the dice of death.

So with all that in mind, its safe to say that government endorsement means basically nothing. I wouldn't call it a negative since I don't really see any reason to do so.

Zachary Garcia
Zachary Garcia

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thelocal.de/20091018/22649

"Government to get special swine flu vaccine

Just a week after it emerged that the German armed forces was getting a different kind of A/H1N1 vaccine to the general population, Der Spiegel magazine reports that the government will also get special treatment. "

"Chancellor Angela Merkel, her cabinet members and ministry civil servants as well as those working for other agencies will get Celvapan, produced by US firm Baxter, which does not have the adjuvant or the preservative, according to Der Spiegel."

So yes, i think we can safely state here that vaccines are forcibly injected bioweapons to make us mere mortals retarded, because it makes the lives of the jewish elite easier not having to deal with an unruly population standing up to their evil. Otherwise there wouldn't be speicifcally mercury & poz free versions.

One law for us one law for you goyim

Angel Diaz
Angel Diaz

Go here, look at the data and make up your own mind all things considered

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OP your post is ancedotal, factless and fucking retarded

Hunter Fisher
Hunter Fisher

At the end of the day, you could go through many sound arguments why not to vaccinate, but here's what I will say:
1) Appeals to authority don't work on me, neither do shaming tactics; 2) I have a right to what goes in my body and if I had kids, I would regard it as my responsibility to guard their health.

That's all that needs said. They are trying really hard lately to force this on the population through shaming tactics and hysteria, which makes me from the start disinclined to trust that these ostensible 'elites' have my health in mind.

Jonathan Bailey
Jonathan Bailey

pharma shill appears
mods allow this

Cameron Diaz
Cameron Diaz

It started to reduce far before the vaccine was being used.

Camden Cook
Camden Cook

RN, BSN responding to your shit attempt at a thread:
handwashing fixed more than vaccines ever did or ever will
That's my professional opinion.

Brandon Gomez
Brandon Gomez

Sage and report.

Mason Perry
Mason Perry

I like the way you frame that:
Why? Because the donor didn’t get a vaccine.
Transferring responsibility for personal health, onto others, which just happens to line up perfectly with the current kike push to use guilt and civic duty to enforce vaccination.
Why wasn't "Josh" vaccinated against rabies?
Wasn't he doing his part?

Samuel Brooks
Samuel Brooks

TIME FOR YOUR MERCURY DOSAGE, GOY
But seriously OP, all of the info is out there. Don't you wonder why the (((media))) attacks this shit so much?

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Cooper Rodriguez
Cooper Rodriguez

Vaccination is dysgenic and disrupts natural selection

Aaron Turner
Aaron Turner

No disease was virtually exterminated due to vaccines. They were however, virtually exterminated; due to cleanliness. Something subhuman browns kikes, spics, arabs, niggers, chinks, pajeets can't even into. Vaccines played no role in that.

Brandon Barnes
Brandon Barnes

Right. One common argument I hear from anti-vaxxers is that the FDA approves it so it must be bad. Basically circular reasoning bullshit. What’s so ironic about this argument is that many anti-vaxxers believe in homeopathy (there is no scientific evidence that this stuff works, btw), and yet homeopathic medicine is actually FDA-approved.
Those aren't the same thing nigger.
The former is saying it's good because the FDA approves it.
The latter is NOT saying it's good because the FDA approves it.

Easton Long
Easton Long

and yet homeopathic medicine is actually FDA-approved.
That is a lie.
There are no FDA-approved products labeled as homeopathic; this means that any product labeled as homeopathic is being marketed in the U.S. without FDA evaluation for safety or effectiveness.
fda.gov/drugs/information-drug-class/homeopathic-products
archive.fo/U8Isd

Kevin Williams
Kevin Williams

Big if true.

Sure cleanliness can also help prevent the spread of disease, but so can vaccines. The bubonic plague today can easily be cured by getting antibiotics, but in England and across Europe it was a death sentence to whoever got it. Isn’t it great that the advancements in modern medicine turned what was once humanity’s greatest killer into a curable ailment? Even if you used sanitation, there are still people that die of the Bubonic plague to this day in America. It’s rare, but it’s not non-existent.

Jack Mitchell
Jack Mitchell

trusting the kiked pharma industry
Not happening.

Adrian Wright
Adrian Wright

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Carson Peterson
Carson Peterson

don't get vaccinated
might get sick if you have bad genes and don't wash your hands or something

get vaccinated
injected with tons of nasty shit that will damage your health 100% of the time, even things like mercury which is the most potent neurotoxin on the planet

basically if you need vaccines in order to feel safe from disease then you probably deserve to be culled anyway

David King
David King

Who the fuck gets a vaccine for bat rabbies? The fact that shit is the best example you could come up says a lot. I'm sure it never even occurred to you that, a fucking kidney transplant often doesn't work.

You're a child OP who knows nothing of science or medicine. If your faggot ass ever somehow manages to have children, then you go right ahead and get them 70+ vaccines.

Christian Harris
Christian Harris

tfw no Anastasia to be put under by

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Connor Price
Connor Price

This is the true and only redpill on this subject. The Gods of the Copybook Headings demand their payment in the old currency.

Chase Stewart
Chase Stewart

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Colton Bailey
Colton Bailey

Op is a slave. Heres the skinny. The reason there is even a term antivax© is because jews coined it and released it into msm and it is being played hard in all media. That should cause you pause.
why do jews want everybody vaxxed?
Obviously, jew dont care if you die, and its technically a sin for them to help you from dying, so why would jews who obviously own pharma, want you to vax?
the sheckles?
It could be, but remember, jews already have all the sheckles, they dont need to srll you vax, and anti-vax talk is EVERYWHERE. so, use your brain.

The jews are about to release some shit into the population and they are campaigning to make sure everyone is getting regular injections. The jews have the most advanced bio weapons and dna study. They own the drug companies, doctors and nurses are just injecting you with shit they feel confident about because they saw the brandname on a PowerPoint in vegas for a convention.

Kayden Barnes
Kayden Barnes

tetanus
It's still around you retard. Just dont cut open your arm and bandage it with cow dung!
polio
Still fucking around, dont drink water from a ditch and get
rabies
Still around, dont get bit by a rabid mammal!
smallpox
Still around, just eat some protein and keep yourself clean…
and many other diseases
Like vaccines
<<Now I'm going to fuck up your thread OP.
law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/300aa-22
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK216813/
journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/national-childhood-vaccine-injury-act-and-supreme-courts-interpretation/2012-01

Vaccines are a ZERO LIABILITY PRODUCT. You cannot sue a vaccine company for any damages. You have to plead your case to a special "vaccine court" where restitution's are paid from TAX PAYER MONEY!

Vaccines KILL people.
Vaccines PARALYZE people.
Vaccines cause AUTISM.

GET DUNKED ON OP FAGGOT!
<<This is an anti-vax thread now

Samuel Brooks
Samuel Brooks

Tetanus is the only relevant one. It's a painful infection and even then only 10% of cases are fatal.

Isaac Lee
Isaac Lee

Here you go.

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Camden Martin
Camden Martin

If you're retarded. Tetanus needs to live on or in blood or feces. It's only a risk if you live on a farm. Further the tetanus only turns into it's deadly form in an environment lacking oxygen.

Let the wound bleed, the bleeding prevents it from entering the body, flushing the wound with saline water will also help, and unless you've hit a major artery (which you need a surgeon anyway) then just let the wound breathe.

Jason Barnes
Jason Barnes

I'm watching this thinking OP should kill himself.

Easton Gutierrez
Easton Gutierrez

And if you get sick and die its because you are weak. I haven't been sick in 12 years or so because I dont eat fast food my wife makes it all from scratch with proper nutrition and drink only milk and water, and squat and run, and im also strengthened by my visceral aversion of world jewery which has probably made me healthier than if I were alseep.

Brayden Flores
Brayden Flores

CDC’s Own Expert Vaccine Court Witness Confirmed Vaccines Can Cause Autism, So They Fired Him Immediately
activistpost.com/2019/01/cdcs-own-expert-vaccine-court-witness-confirmed-vaccines-can-cause-autism-so-they-fired-him-immediately.html

Attorney Rolf Hazelhurst, a criminal prosecutor, has a vaccine-damaged and autistic son, Yates, born February 11, 2000. As a result of what the Hazelhurst family has gone through, Attorney Hazelhurst has become an avid vaccine-safety rights legal counsel. Furthermore, he had Dr. Zimmerman evaluate Yates.

Leo Reed
Leo Reed

Lets get some medical scientists talking about the dangers of Vaccines now.

Jose Cox
Jose Cox

Some info dumps

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Camden Sanders
Camden Sanders

Herd immunity, one of the big lies.

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Austin Johnson
Austin Johnson

Lets just say the vaccines don't cause Autism,
then what does? Autism is not a natural disability that is the result of evolution, it has increased a lot since the late 80s, its almost if some eugenics program is going on to infect people with Autism. Autism creates incels which stops babies from being born, isn't this what the kikes want? You have lack of social skills and jealousy in one combination and no one says there is any coincidence, something is fishy here.

Caleb Kelly
Caleb Kelly

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Nathaniel Richardson
Nathaniel Richardson

what the fuck does a bat bite have to do woth a vaccine. What fucking main stream vaccine protects you from a random bat biteinfection. wtf is this shit thread.

PRESERVATIVES ARE THE REAL ISSUE WITH VACCINES
Also, once you get the measles, you hav ebeen vaccinated. Anyone asserting anything different is a fucking retarded faggot who cant into logic. Also, if measles was "defeated" in 2000 in the US then how is it back unles it measles was brought by imigration to the west coast city of importland.

Nicholas Clark
Nicholas Clark

Proven
without a doubt
prevents disease

KYS ZOGbot

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Kevin Russell
Kevin Russell

Lets just say the vaccines don't cause Autism,

Cameron Gray
Cameron Gray

I was just pandering to idiots I know they cause Autism, its obvious. Dumb fucks will believe what the kikes have to say about these things saying that "Oh goyim its ok the vaccine is here to help you"

Jose Robinson
Jose Robinson

PRESERVATIVES ARE THE REAL ISSUE WITH VACCINES
Dun matter, you can't sue the company… THAT is the "real issue".
Vaccines cause brain damage.
Vaccines paralyze people.
Vaccines KILL people.

Nathan Gonzalez
Nathan Gonzalez

Forgot the link
Archive failed twice

rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/anti-vaxxers-facebook-youtube-instagram-806504/

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Lucas Green
Lucas Green

Females in the comments though, "Oh hes so handsome"
Lol women are stone cold dude.

Jacob Adams
Jacob Adams

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Caleb Garcia
Caleb Garcia

The kikes also use aborted babies to grow the vaccines they're trying to force everyone to inject.

Almost makes a guy wonder if all these recent abortion bans are somehow connected to this war big tech is waging against the population in regard to the forced vaccination and quelling the anti-vaccine movement.

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Dominic Gonzalez
Dominic Gonzalez

K, so if you cancel the Influenza vaccines (which are complete bonkers because influenza mutates so quickly), HPV (dont be a degenerate and you'll be 100% fine), Rotavirus (kills only subhuman trash that cannot take care of their seventh kid) and Hep B (nearly eradicated), i've already eliminated like 40+ doses, or more than half.

Cooper White
Cooper White

The vaccines contain something that alters white DNA. It will turn you into a feminized far left supporting homosexual vegan.

That's why so many white men are feminized wimps in 2019.

White men should avoid being vaxxed at all costs.

Its chemical castration that will leave you subservient to the JWO. The gay frogs meme is no joke.

Brody Murphy
Brody Murphy

It's easy to strawman this argument because vaccines are generally good. The real problem as I see it, is that big pharma is basically immune to lawsuits brought against them by people who were harmed by vaccines. Some people, maybe a small percentage, have bad reactions to vaccines and sometimes they die. If you had a kid die getting a vaccine, and you had no legal recourse to get some payback for your loss, you would become a big anti-vaxx advocate too.

Another layer to the onion is that normies trust the government because they are fucking stupid and naive but anyone who has done even a little bit of research can list dozens of cases where the government gives a vaccine to a population only to have pulled a fast one and given them all some deadly fucking disease for scientific research. The normies cannot accept the cold fact that sometimes the government they worship can and will murder them and not give a fuck. Big pharma and government are so dependant on each other that they will protect each other at your expense. And then they pay propagandists to convince the normies that vaccines = good and anti-vaxx = bad and if you don't live within that overton window they will punish you any way they can.

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Eli Price
Eli Price

I'm not against vaccines entirely. I just notice a trend where mental disabilities, even some physical ones, rise in correlation with the number of vaccines kids get. Have you seen the fucking CDC vaccination schedule? Dude. Kids don't need all that shit. There needs to be a middle ground, preventing things like measles and such, that's fine, but pumping literal infants full of drugs is doing something, I guarantee it. Scale the vaccinations back, because there's the Jewish trickery going on. But don't ban vaccinations outright.

Zachary Russell
Zachary Russell

It is true you retard. Look at the data charts posted.

Ryder Wood
Ryder Wood

So
Stop doing this, you retard.

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Alexander Brown
Alexander Brown

FDA approving of something doesn’t mean shit. Even if they’re profit-driven, that’s what you get under capitalism.

The FDA is run by people who leave the employ of a pharmaceutical company with an agenda, approve whatever they were told to approve and then leave the FDA to return to an elevated position at the pharmaceutical company. They are a corrupt, nepotistic group that subverted a system that was meant to be protecting the citizens of the United States. Sound familiar?

Ian White
Ian White

None of those were eliminated by vaccines. You sound like a brainwashed normalfaggot saying
auschwitz, treblinka, we all know the holocaust happened
Imagine being such a dumb goyim that you believe in vaccines just because the kikes told you to.
Fuck off and educate yourself on the reality of vaccines and also kill yourself

Aaron Ward
Aaron Ward

vax is basically good
You see, thats where youre wrong. Even the word vaccine is loaded because it implies that you agree that the liquid injectable they call various vaccines actually is a vaccine. Human beings have lived along time without vax. Its all a part of jewish control paradigm, and they will certainly spike them in the future.

Evan Powell
Evan Powell

Vaccines don't work when you have a constant stream of foreigners coming in. There's also myriad problems with the quality of the vaccines which have been shown to cause harm. There's an entire court system just for adjudicating cases for people harmed by them.

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Logan Garcia
Logan Garcia

Have either been virtually eliminated by vaccines
The word you're looking for is inoculations. Modern day vaccines are no longer just inoculations, they are full of unneeded chemicals with horrible side effects.

Blake Perez
Blake Perez

Roflcopter is that you!?

Sage for shit op shill and offtopic

Cameron Lopez
Cameron Lopez

antibiotics
naturally occurring organisms grown and cultured for a specific purpose
<the same as neurotoxins
False equivalence mate.

Nathan Turner
Nathan Turner

What you got to remember is that a vaccine doesn't always take. You do get people whose immune system just doesn't respond to a vaccine using dead bacteria or damaged viruses.
Or during storage they can go off making them useless or dangerous.
In general populationwide though they work well enough to get the job done.

Another factor is that diseases and viruses are not always the same. They're constantly evolving and changing.
As a consequence a vaccine might work against every instance of a disease in a part of the world but a strain from the other side of the planet gets brought in and the vaccine training your immune system underwent is no help against this particular strain as it has some particular difference.

Then of course you got the jewish companies looking to push more and more vaccines that make money but aren't expensive to develop or produce.
Flu.

As for the court system. Yes. They have to have a different set of legal norms for this.
Because you are most of the time literally deliberately infecting someone with a potentially deadly disease.

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Connor Morales
Connor Morales

faggot

Elijah Powell
Elijah Powell

As long as those anti vaxxers keep that shit to themselves and don't force their retarded views on normal people, they're fine in my book.
However, anti vaxxers are just like flat earthers and treat their anti vaccine ideology like a cult.

Cooper Wright
Cooper Wright

They no longer use mercury.

James Morgan
James Morgan

More dangerous than anesthesia? Do you know how much training anesthesiologists go through. That shit is mad dangerous. That’s like saying vaccines are more dangerous then dancing naked in a lions den.

Nathan Adams
Nathan Adams

The kike cries out in pain as he injects your white kid with poison

Bentley Cooper
Bentley Cooper

Yeah anesthesia is mental. You can do everything absolutely right and the people still just dies for no discernable reason.

Jack Peterson
Jack Peterson

And why do you think those "unneeded chemicals" are in the vaccines ?

Colton Thomas
Colton Thomas

Best post in this entire thread

Ayden Gomez
Ayden Gomez

Those are typically preservatives or compounds intended to improve the vaccines function. Often by doing a bit of damage to the body to provoke an immune system response.

Nicholas Kelly
Nicholas Kelly

underrated. I kek'd audibly.

as to the OP, and all the other ignorant tards in this thread…

vaccination is a tool that ought to have been used sparingly, and was. some kids are more susceptible to the negative side-effects, which is why the other 98% were vaccinated so the few who could be harmed didn't have to be. this was all fine and well while countries were producing their own vaccinations, but when (((globalism))) took over, the West started outsourcing its drug production to shitholes like China and India (just like everything else). surprise surprise, kids start getting sick, because shitskins can't into biotech, and just as with all other products consumed by the West today, industry caters to the lowest common denominator - ie, pumping out shitty mass-produced products.

not only that, but diseases which had been eradicated in the West are now making a comeback because of mass-scale migrations from countries populated by illiterate shitskins who fuck monkeys and eat dead relatives. the vaccination protocols for each disease had been planned to taper off once said disease was eradicated in the West. the point is, vaccines were always a temporary solution to a problem that never should have become a permanent issue, but just like everything else in clown world (((they))) made sure to keep the West sick and in a constant state of inflammation so the vaccination protocols over time poison the goyim with sub-par products.

vaccines are a tool - nothing more, nothing else. if you make them in-house, in your home country, to the strictest degree of regulation and control, and then use them sparingly (ie., not on kids with genetically weak neurological systems), then you can easily wipe out multiple transferable diseases and obviate vaccines themselves after a few decades. which is exactly the plan before (((capitalists))) started importing shitskins and outsourcing drug production. and before anyone calls me a pharma shill, know that the elites purchase private vaccines from Swiss and French drug companies, while they import Indian and Chinese and Malasyian garbage for the masses.

TL;DR: y'all are fucking retarded. I love you guys, but don't opine on subjects you know shit-all about

t. molebiofag

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Josiah Ortiz
Josiah Ortiz

Why are infant mortality rates 40% higher in the countries that require the most vaccinations?

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Jack Barnes
Jack Barnes

Finally, an intelligent reply in a sea of mindless shitflinging, cries of shill/alphabet agencies and arguments made in bad faith. Smart users emigrating and Zig Forums undergoing a continual braindrain made reasonable and nuanced posts like yours harder to find, while schizos spew speculative bullshit without much research behind it.

Samuel Anderson
Samuel Anderson

I apologize for some of my shitflinging, of which I am admittedly responsible for. But sometimes, a carefully-crafted argument can be effectively destroyed with much fewer words than the original argument itself.

Lincoln Reyes
Lincoln Reyes

While that's true, there's also the issue of bullshit requiring more energy to refute than to propagate. Though, you're intelligent and capable of self reflection, so i'd say you're squarely above a good deal of anons here.

Oliver Perez
Oliver Perez

aluminum

Jayden Ward
Jayden Ward

Appreciate it, thank you.

Kayden Evans
Kayden Evans

Why are infant mortality rates 40% higher in the countries that require the most vaccinations?

Short version: profit motive, and subversive tendencies by the Western (((elite)))

Long version (greentext for readability; ALL of it applies):

substandard production practices employed by inept technologists overseas (yay for outsorcing!)
carte blanche bioengineered products made to cover as large of a demographic percentage as possible
disrgard for infants with genetic susceptibilities to a wide range of foreign/inflammatory agents
unnecessary and harmful over-administration of mostly hyper-aggressive mega-cocktails, in excessive doses
durability and refrigeration of said products, which means added biotoxicity in exchange for longer shelf-life
a drop in the quality of the mothers' diets (to be fair it has nothing to do with vaccines, but it fucks up the kids bigtime)
haphazard and rushed R&D; poor testing; incomplete data; poorly understood efficacy; profit motive eclipsing health concerns
erosion of the West's independence through loss of natural immunity (as per )

I'm from an Eastern Euro country, and we had a national institute for immunology which produced vaccines for the entire country (but it got privatized and sold off a few years ago, to the usual suspects). Anyway, my entire generation received multiple shots over the course of our childhoods, and of hundreds of people I went to both elementary and high school with, no one ever showed the kind of autism or auto-immune diseases that are so prevalent in the States, or in the younger generations of kids even in Europe (anecdotal evidence aside, it's pretty telling that out of a few thousand people I went to school with, over 12 years, no one was 'messed up' by vaccines like kids today). The reason is simple: we got only the necessary shots, they were intelligently spaced-out, and the stuff was produced by a strictly-controlled national institute. They didn't ship it from over-seas, it wasn't made by Pajeet and Chang, and then kept in an icebox for far longer than its expiration date.

Although to be fair, vaccination is a fairly primitive and outmoded idea. Synthetic, fully programmable immune cells are the future.

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Luis Bell
Luis Bell

This. It's not that we do not have the technology; there are plenty of adjuvants ready for mass manufacture that provoke way less reactions on people than fucking aluminium; phosphates can be used for the same desired effect, with a loss of the vaccine lifetime of about 5%. Greed is what is driving the industry. A few decades ago there used to have a market for individual vaccines, rather than multiple strands per shot, but they discarded it. Its so much of a point of no return that fucking influenza, a trivial disease, is being marketed as a deadly disease that requires you to take 20+ shots in your lifetime so you quote "don't get the worst ones".

Don't trust me, google (yes even fucking Google) mortality rates of fucking varicella. The children that died are the ones who can't afford western medicine. Why the fuck do urban-area children need varicella shots??

Joseph Smith
Joseph Smith

Josh looks like a FtM tranny

Brayden Hughes
Brayden Hughes

That's right, the pharmaceutical companies that are responsible for the opioid epidemic, the same ones that peddle drugs to everyone and always put profit over people, are suddenly our friends when it comes to vaccines.

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Adrian Thomas
Adrian Thomas

They'll just handwave that away. Being for vaccines without regulation is a new field for virtue signaling, totally Jewish or not.

Jayden Ross
Jayden Ross

Lol, I literally "randomly" thought this exact meme earlier today, thank you for posting.

While I'm here: the founder of the Arby's fast food franchise is a MAJOR crypto-Nazi, significantly more of an anti-Semite than me. Look into it, it's fascinating.

Carson Cooper
Carson Cooper

It started to reduce far before the vaccine was being used.
[Citations needed.]

Brayden Diaz
Brayden Diaz

Look up nagalase

It's the smoking gun.

Evan Turner
Evan Turner

posts death rates
not rates of disease contraction

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Eli Gonzalez
Eli Gonzalez

Do have versions of those that go back to 1880 like his?

Landon Morris
Landon Morris

I'm waiting for the push for varicella shots. All it did for me when my mother brought me to a pox party was made me itch really bad.

Matthew Perry
Matthew Perry

All those diseases were still in rapid decline when the vaccines were introduced. All the vaccine does is unnaturally speed up the organic immune response of the body. The critical question is, when the body is unnaturally altered like that, does that alteration map onto genetic code and pass on to the following generations? Like how around 10% of all white Europeans are immune from the bubonic plague, are we seeing a positive effect in future generations from these vaccines which replicate into the children's dna?

I don't think it does, which is the problem.

Luke Nelson
Luke Nelson

modern plumbing and municipal waste/pest management lead to all these diseases disappearing it was not vaccines

Isaiah Sanders
Isaiah Sanders

Vaccines work but, the entire western medical system is kike'd as fuck so they put toxic compounds into the vaccines such as formaldehyde and metals such as mercury and aluminum. These toxins are extremely destructive to the human body and they should not be put into the vaccines but, they are. People are noticing that vaccines are making people sick in certain kinds of ways. It also helps the kikes maintain their dysgenic breeding since the people with what would otherwise be weak immune systems live instead of die like they would have 100 years ago.

Anyone who thinks that vaccines are a necessary part of civilization needs to kill themselves, humans have been around for hundreds of thousands if not millions of years and we've only been mass vaccinating for about the past 70 years. I do not trust any system or organization run by jews, one of them being our medical system, pharmaceutical companies and vaccine companies as well as our government which regulates the production and consumption of these things.

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Jose Gonzalez
Jose Gonzalez

Our dna doesn't sponteanously mutate wih medicine, like marvel superheroes, it doesn't work like that.

Caleb Parker
Caleb Parker

doesnt know about retrotransposons

James Torres
James Torres

OP you have failed to refute anything the anti vaxx camp claims and have infact done nothing but validate them through your own ignorance and incompetency.

Nathaniel Wilson
Nathaniel Wilson

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Jace Lopez
Jace Lopez

The (((media))) always portrays it as a false choice between no vaccines and the 100+ recommended by your insurance company.

Find yourself a competent pediatrician who will give the basics (MMR, polio for babies, others as they get older, the way it was done foe years) but not excess shots.

This (((measles outbreak))) is from French kikes, BTW.

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Adrian Adams
Adrian Adams

That first factoid is being violently censored on Kikebook BTW.

Christian Morgan
Christian Morgan

some things were true, even though they never happened

Hudson Carter
Hudson Carter

It's easier in countries with medicare like Canada. The flu shot propaganda talks up "herd" (see goyim) immunity for example. It's very easy to get those under the grips of the media jew to comply.

t. remembers an entire train on the Toronto subway of government flu-shot propaganda: every ad in the train plus "take the shot, goy!" wraps on the livery

Caleb Lee
Caleb Lee

a nurse

Are you the one I had to call your husband on? You got your friends' put under investigation for that stunt, you know.

Eli Brooks
Eli Brooks

Selenium.

Dylan Gonzalez
Dylan Gonzalez

Completely irrelevant to the subject.
Read the precedent post.

Lincoln Brown
Lincoln Brown

I started to develop psoriasis 8 years ago. Nobody in my familly got it except one uncle. Look what I found last week :

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3870220/

It's a clue for sure. Btw for those who doesn't know what is psoriasis, it's a fucking disease that has no cure ((((they))) say )….it's itchy red spot that produce new skin very fast because the immune system see that spot has foreign. And the good part is, everyone that has psoriasis can/will develop hearth attack, Crohn disease and arthritis. Fun time.

For Anons out there who are suffering the same fate. Don't fucking take (((their))) medication like the cortico-steroid topic lotion!! It gave me psychosis and that shitty product will create new spot fuck crying out loud…So I try the primal diet of Aajonus Vonderplanitz : We want to live. It's basically eating raw meat/eggs/milk. The theory is that everything has bacteria on it, good and/or bad. The fact to cook it will destroy the good one but it can leave some bad one. The body need those good bacteria to fight off their shitty conterpart. It's my 3th day now eating raw meat. I read and lived that your body need to adapt and he will flush out a lot of stuff. So yeah not cool for 2 days but now i'm fine. People should check that guy, pretty good stuff.

Jaxson Harris
Jaxson Harris

And the good part is, everyone that has psoriasis can/will develop hearth attack, Crohn disease and arthritis
That's utter and complete bullshit. My family has a history of psoriasis, and none of them ever had Crohn's disease nor heart attacks. One DID started developing arthritis at the age of 76. Psoriasis is very controllable and liveable as long as you don't get stressed out. And during periods of stress, taking the CORRECT meds is important, not all the time. I don't recommend simply avoiding all meds at all times, though; a good diet is important, especially fish oils.

Henry Peterson
Henry Peterson

If you can't handle this realm, then go to another "soul-lure system". Only Antarticans are pure.

Jason Baker
Jason Baker

I support vaccination, although the vaccine regime they give to newborns needs to be slowed down and paced out, rather than all at once, sending babies into seizures

Isaiah Edwards
Isaiah Edwards

This to the nth degree
the high school I went to had no less than 5 tuberculosis scares because sick, illegal spics kept getting admitted

Even Ellis and Angel islands had medical quarantines for migrants. There's nothing stopping the plagues of Central and South America from coming in here

Nolan Johnson
Nolan Johnson

Measles is a benign childhood disease; you get lifelong immunity when contracted. Measles vaccines often fail for various reasons and don't provide lifelong immunity when they work. Mass vaccination destroyed the true "herd immunity" that past unvaccinated populations had.

vaccinechoicecanada.com/wp-content/uploads/vcc-measles-report-2019.pdf

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Easton Bailey
Easton Bailey

Don't worry, Anastasia will find you whether you like it or not

Gabriel Perez
Gabriel Perez

The problems with Vaccines currently is:

Vaccines are made in China, FDA has oversight on LABELING ONLY, fucking PRE-APPROVED BY THE WHO bolenreport.com/mandatory-california-childhood-vaccines-really-made-china-no-quality-control-ever/

V's are showing containing fucking GLYPHOSATE worldmercuryproject.org/news/weeding-vaccine-toxins-mmr-glyphosate-health-generation/

Fucking NAGALASE is being put in them (NO KNOWN REASON TO DO THIS) sustainable.media/cancer-industry-profits-by-nagalase-molecule-injected-into-humans-via-vaccines/ Nagalase is produced by TUMORS.

V's are using old virus (e.g. Measles) which aren't effective against current strains.

Measles used to be no big deal, you got them, you stayed home, you went back to school. Same with Mumps.

Also turns out getting Measles and Mumps may be of benefit, which the vaccine doesn't deliver thedrswolfson.com/measles-and-mumps-infection-could-save-millions-of-lives/

I won't even get into the heavy metals and dosing schedule that's associated with autism, that should be apparent to even the most cucked burger (like OP).

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Isaac Cox
Isaac Cox

Do have versions of those that go back to 1880 like his?

Of course not, b/c just like w/global warming, showing all the data fucks up the narrative.

Connor Perez
Connor Perez

Just about every disease that has a vaccine for it the vaccine has been PROVEN to prevent disease.
Does that include the flu?
Of course it doesn’t. But in all seriousness man if you want to understand the root of the problem you gotta analyze the system itself. Big pharma is shady as shit. On an incredibly regular basis these companies are caught falsifying data, having to retract publications, drugs, ect.

The antivax movement is a natural reaction to this. You have a bunch of kikes pumping up your lymphatic system with shit you can’t see and your just supposed to trust them. And these same assholes get caught in corrupt cases such as that recent (((Cohen))) guy who caught heat for basically starting the opioid crisis.
And I’m saying this as a stemfag that has literally immunized animals for studies. It’s a matter of trust. People don’t trust these institutions, and I don’t blame them.

Jason Morris
Jason Morris

Based

Jace Torres
Jace Torres

I wonder how much big pharma corporations paid for all the recent organized shilling online.

Elijah Nelson
Elijah Nelson

it's the additives nigger.
these Jews put Mercury and a lot of other shit in them.

Italy just fired is whole vaccine board because the vaccines were proven ineffective and had bad side effects.

Carter Martinez
Carter Martinez

Wait… if the donor didn't get a vaccine, but he did, shouldn't he be immune? How is it that the donor was immune despite not getting vaccinated and the other guy wasn't despite being vaccinated?

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Sebastian Taylor
Sebastian Taylor

Is everyone else seeing this bullshit down the bottom there? It doesn't matter if you want to protect yourself and your family, they are GOING to force this shit on your children at gunpoint.

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Aaron Wright
Aaron Wright

The late vaccine expert Dr. Maurice Hilleman admitted that Merck was responsible for releasing a cancer-causing virus through its polio vaccine.
You admit in your first sentence that you are not from here, and yet you try to steer the opinions of user.
Try harder.

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Noah Garcia
Noah Garcia

We're supposed to believe all the leftist dimwits of reddit care about everyone getting vaccinated for a healthy society while they promote degeneracy, getting AIDS for fun, full term abortions and killing whites.
There are anti-vax related threads with thousands of subscribers making fun of anti-vaxxers.
It seems that most anti-vaxxers are against the MMR and not ALL vaccines like the reddit retards claim.
The shilling is too fake and comes in phases.
There will be heavy anti-vaxx attack days and new account activations, or old accounts that hadn't posted in years suddenly wake up and copy/paste corporate news articles in support of vaccines.
I've been called a Russian for posting links to peer reviewed scientific journals that talk about the dangers of vaccinating infants.
The utter lunacy of modern society is very tiring.
My body, my choice except for vaccines.

Joseph Mitchell
Joseph Mitchell

give me information about you so I can manipulate you and survey the board
Go back to plebbit, that's not how this works.

Jeremiah Parker
Jeremiah Parker

Oh look, it's yet another anti-vaxxer sliding thread.

Whatcha slidin', Shlomo?

Lucas Hernandez
Lucas Hernandez

refusing to vaccinate their children for tetanus after they got cut by a rusty saw blade
cut by a rusty saw blade
rusty saw blade
rusty
Nigger, you don't even know that rust does not cause tetanus.
Tetanus comes from a toxin put off by a bacteria. Rust has nothing to do with it. Not to mention a saw blade would be one of the least likely things to produce a good environment for tetenus blood poisoning. Deep puncture wounds, like those from nails (rusted or not), are the most dangerous because the bacteria c. tetani is anaerobic, so deep in the flesh where there is little air exposure, the bacteria can colonize.

Kayden Ramirez
Kayden Ramirez

>Trusting jews to protect you from diseases when they are the ones profiting when you get sick and buy their "medicine" which is designed to keep you sick and addicted until you die

Lets talk vaccines in a homogeneous society at some other point, when that has been achieved.

anti-vax is code for anti white-genocide

Logan Ross
Logan Ross

Faggots like OP always miss the point. The issue isn't that vaccines as a concept are harmful, but that the current method by which they're used is harmful.
First, there are harmful and unnecessary additives in all modern vaccines. Second, the vaccine manufacturers are above the law and are not able to be held legally liable for harmful effects of vaccines. And third, it's mandatory rather than optional.
Anyone who supports modern vaccines is kiked in the brain.

Zachary Rogers
Zachary Rogers

You're projecting your stupidity and unwillingness to accept the massiveness of the tragedy.

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Ayden Perry
Ayden Perry

Boomer-tier science here but I’ll do you slowly so people stop sharing this stupid infection graph.

It is true that sanitation and living standard improvements far outweigh the marginal benefit of vaccination. Taking whooping cough (pertussis) as an example, infection rates dropped 75% in the ten years prior to the introduction of the vaccine (nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/whooping-cough/history.aspx) growth in consumption of real estate, information and sanitation all lead to far fewer deaths. These statistics still suffer from the under reporting problems inherit in statistics prior to whole life reporting facilitated by computer networks in the late 20th century.

However, it is not a sufficient argument to say that without vaccination that we will see lower rates of infection compared with the period immediately prior to introduction. There are far more children and infection vectors are far more sophisticated. Someone can carry disease from the depths of an African village to the middle of a developed country in hours. We cannot have both globalisation and weak disease vectors.

The other two posts are strange and are explained through growth in our understanding of disease and our ability to categorise them. As people age it becomes less important to vaccinate them as the will die and vaccinations are cheaper if we keep providing the most advanced ones to the youngest people who have the most value in vaccination game theory - they will provide the most benefit for the longest period of time against the most disease.

Benjamin Cruz
Benjamin Cruz

Look up nagalase

It's the smoking gun.

This.

It occurs in two places: tumors, and vaccines.

It's not a preservative, nor does it have a defined function.

It's just in there, because (((reasons))).

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Noah Miller
Noah Miller

Carbon dioxide is in soft drinks and car exhaust. Just picking a hot take and posting it everywhere is not helpful - you could kill someone’s child if they are not vaccinated.

Nolan Young
Nolan Young

What gets me about the pro vaccine faction is their ignorance of the very science they profess. If they get vaccinated and I don't, I pose no threat to them whatsoever. Far from it. I'm the one taking the risk upon myself; they have immunity and I don't. In the event of some plague they will survive because of the particles of antigens they've got in their system that have given their antibodies a database of structures to attack and I don't have that database.

But they don't even understand this; they believe that if somehow I'm not vaccinated I'll infect them. But how? They very vaccines they tout have already made them immune to it.

Cooper Jones
Cooper Jones

what would you suggest to someone that has a child in this case?

Juan Gray
Juan Gray

soft drinks and car exhaust are both terrible for your health
and it would be better if most kids alive today were dead since they are subhuman non-white scum

Charles Parker
Charles Parker

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Carter Price
Carter Price

Picture 3 is all you should really need. If that doesn't raise some reflection in the blindly pro-vaccine (read: stooge of big pharma Jews) then there's nothing you can do for them, sadly. In the same brain they will say corporations are bad, but turn a blind eye to the fact that pharmaceutical companies cannot be held accountable and held liable for their vaccines. That the government would then force you to be injected with these to your own danger while the pharma jew profits immensely should give pause to anyone with two brain cells to rub together

Gabriel Butler
Gabriel Butler

anti-vax train
Sage for obvious outsider faggot shill thread.