The EU election in my country gave me a crisis of faith Zig Forums

I don't even care anymore. Just use the state power. Why shouldn't we?

To anyone that's not mentally retarded, it should be clear that, yes, that's how you ensure a chance to improve other things. Here in the U.S., it's now impossible to have normal political conversations and ever get things done because of the racial makeup and racial and sex divisions.

Next election, bro.

Whores won't become pure, if you get rid of Spics, user.

No, it will get you loved. There is overwhelming support for removing the invaders that no one ever wanted and are regularly victimized by. Only the Jew-controlled media and the worthless sacks of shit that believe what that media says would complain.

ECOFASCISM

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Mixing what boomers hate (fascism) with what zoomers will hate (environmentalism) is too convoluted to troll anyone and you'll be pigeonholed as "fringe/anarchists".

Want an actual solution?
youtube.com/watch?v=j6p1zxKnDeM
Just spam the Russian version below at the Russian military Twitter so we get an actual armed force against the Jewry that is behind all these ills. Putin is gonna get necked for defending Jews killing and enslaving Russians though Communism.
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twitter.com/mod_russia

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You'd have to be an absolute retard to call it Ecofascism.

And it's also not what I want. Just because you care about the enviroment, doesn't mean you have to set us back to a pre-industrial age.

A lot of women that used to vote CDU, vote Greens now.
This isn't just a shift in the left-wing of the political spectrum.

If you look at elections of the last 20 years, the right-wing was slowly and steadily gaining ground. The recent surge in the polls for the Greens completly reversed the Right-Wing Trend of the last years.

So this is NOT just the SPD losing and the Greens gaining voters.

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You have no power here, you reddit teir jew. We all work for the days of Shitsrael to be conquered by your muddy neighbors. Heil to the few legit kammeraden in this thread. A pox on you jew! The EU is RUN by tribes of kikes, are you serious about being anti-EU? Only a normie kike would write such shit here.

Lurk 2 thousand years.

You're right. I was only half joking.
There is no political solution.

DEMORALIZE YOURSELF, AND FACE TO BLOODSHED

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Eco fascism is causes belli or whatever it’s called to sterilize India, Africa, etc.

World IQ is 82, the only way to raise it is through subtraction.

I don't like that either, but it's obvious that the EU is very popular and that Normies are too retarded to see that it's corrupted, so you just have to change it.

It's going to be controlled by whoever controls Germany anyway. With influence from France too.

I was talking about mainstream populist parties.

This isn't appealing to Normies. "When we get into power, we will start mass-killings of all traitors and invaders."

You'd still be absolutely retarded to self-identify that way in public.

Who cares about anything you just SAID?
The game is rigged from top to bottom. It will take killing and more killing and conflict to reverse 70 years of kikes and their ilk running amok among Europe and the West. Thats how I know FOR SURE you don't belong here, because someone who's been lurking properly WOULD NEVER think this could be solved politically.

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Yes, I do. This has nothing to do with your wants, or mine, its where we're headed, and you can arrive with me at the helm or drinking the sea on the keel.

ps. I think you're an idiot, but I'm not interested in arguing with idiots throwing around empty, blackpilled predictions right now.
Protecting Mother Nature, and doing it from a system of Law and Natural Order of meritocracy is the only thing anyone with triple IQ can logically support.
You glow.

Then I absolutely disagree with what you stand for.

We should advance into a sci-fi future and not live as primitives in the woods.

Who cares about what you say?
6% of the Germany Youth voted for the AfD. They obviously don't care about old school Nationalism.

It's done. We need a different way.

You think Hitler is going to resurrect and lead a natsoc party? No. You are stuck with the ecelebs and personalities that you have.

Not with "kill all kikes" attitude, user.

Fucking wasted Heil trips, you faggot.
You really are retarded, and you obviously don't belong here.
You won't rise to power in this rigged, kiked ShitShow UNTIL you start mass-killing of all traitors and invaders, you brainlet.
It's time to grow up, children. There is only ONE WAY out of this, and most of us will never even know if we won or lost.

But you better fucking fight, regardless, you pussies.

Okay, that's enough. You can stop now. You're glowing way to hard, yid.
Go play. We'll come get you when it's your turn on the Rope Swing.

You will see soon, newfaggot, as soon as you take those rose tinted faggot glasses off your soy face. Also if you are German in Germany, you should be ASHAMED. Look at what you faggots have done to the place. And no I harbor no delusions about hitler coming back and saving the place. You guys are fucked in Germany for sure.

You belong to Nature, not to Handy Land. There is no such thing as a sci fi future.

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Nice fantasy. Why not become rich and fund the Alt-right? Oh wait, because that fantasy of just killing everyone is more "realistic".
And because Richard Spencer is a kike shill communist anyway, right user?

lol

"fap to killing everyone that disagrees with me" is not an argument

Haven't read the OP, have you?

You talk about Ashamed? Look at the post you replied to. Do you see these statistics? Do you see it, user?
Either the Normies are really so retarded that you can just them to vote for you, if only the AfD larped more as enviroment savers and didn't deny climate change.

Or it's really over and what I proposed in the OP is a better solution.

If deportation and repatriation is impossible, just use refugees as cheap labor in artifical cities build to just house them.

Of the 3 Great Powers in Europe, we are the least fucked.

You have to be as retarded as the Greens to think that you have to take "nature's" side, whenever there is an argument.

You can be both. You can eat meat, have an industry, fly planes, etc and still do something for the enviroment.

Great powers sure, run from israel. Imagine being so full of soy as your self, you are the typical normie that consumed the shit fed to you. You have exposed your self with this little rant as well, just LOOK at that reddit garbage. Well at least now you know, YOU HAVE TO GO BACK. Also, I could give a fuck less about politics in Germany, good luck.

Dear Kraut just because you live in post ww2 pozzed brainwashed Germanistan that doesn't mean that the rest of Europe is in trouble that much.
Italy, Hungary, Britain, Poland etc. populist parties winning britti hard.
Democracy should be gotten rid of btw. It's a week system that endures no hardship.

Your empty mockery does nothing to protect your abject terror of the reality of what's coming, faggot.
Do not post here anymore.
You're nothing but a coward, and a liability.
I doubt you'll get many more serious responses. You Should Lurk.

Now that's a retarded and low effort post.

Which is an objectively good thing. Every utopian idealist has massacred tens of millions if not hundreds of millions on the way to their utopian ideal. We need more realists not more utopian communists.

see

It's all so tiresome.

Makes no sense.

This is true.
What do you even mean by 'old-schold right-wing politics', because you're about to go into attacking populism, and that's just… Nah mate, nah.

Nothing, really.
They offer the same thing as those on the Left: Pleasant lies. That's the core of it.

Much like a lot of the Leftism/progressivism/environmentalism of the Left is just talk to get such support to gain power.

Is he really?

You fundamentally don't get this. You think this is about organic movement of people or some shit.
You idiot.
This is about your destruction. You have been identified as a threat, and thus you have been targeted for destruction. That's it.
No they are not. They are coming here WITH ASSISTANCE FROM YOUR STATE.
That's not 'on their own'. If they came in 'on their own', the state could remove them easily IF IT WANTED TO.
BUT IT DOESN'T. Because your state mechanism has been SUBVERTED and is now a mechanism in play to use toward your destruction.
Because that would be the exact opposite of the intention of BRINGING these people in - which is YOUR destruction; not your prosperity via exploitation of said people.

You educate past genetics nigger. Deal with it.
Worthless until you've dealt with your demographic issues - you'll just be moving migrants, giving Africa niggers and Pakis a high-speed access route to rape and pillage outside their zones.
What the fuck does that even mean nigger?
See above. You're missing the rape squads for the trees my man.

Bro, we could be energy independent on nuclear-based grounds - EXTREMELY safe versions no less - RIGHT NOW.
We choose not to. Or rather, our leaders do.

HAHAHAHAHA okay I see now, this is just a LARP.

Why do you?
You haven't demonstrated the capacity to even have a European state at this point. You're getting rather silly with this LARP now.

No you don't, or if you do, you're fucking STUPID AS FUCK brother. I don't mean to insult you, but if this is not a LARP, holy fuck, you are absolutely out of your gourd and should stay the fuck out of politics, because your naive Eurocuck nature will be subverted in the drop of a dime which miraculously lands in the hand of a rabbi.

Then you fundamentally don't understand the conflict of which you are a part and you need to lurk 2 more years until you realize that none of this is just some organic transpiration of philosophical perspectives meeting in political contest, but rather, a concerted and conscious inorganic effort to destroy your biologic clade on behalf of a competing, parasitic biologic clade seeking your destruction due to perception of threat from your direction.

Protip: There's a reason by these zoomertards vote that way and it has anything to do with being able to extend their adolescence into their mid-twenties.
There's also a reason why the 30 to 49 demographic votes the AfD most heavily and it has everything to do with getting assraped by +60% tax rate. German demographics with what they are the youth vote is largely irrelevant, it's a huge bulge of old farts who keep the CDU in power.

Give them some economic hardship and see how that works.

You don't have one. Period.

That's really the only attitude that matters man.
You've dealing with a parasite which desires your total destruction, and they've dug in deep.
Either you're eventually going to come round in sufficient numbers to rooting them out, or you aren't, and there's really no way to go about doing that other than to point them out and try different methodologies at different times to try and generate an effective mechanism to do so.

You can't remove the pest-ridden weeds, root and stem, from your garden, they will continue to put forth pests and more weeds and degrade your crops through proximity. Now, I get that you're suggesting we need a new way, much like Hitler did in his time, but you're going to have to come to terms with the fact that calling back upon the men who've walked this path before you is going to be requisite, just as it was for the National Socialists, and you're going to have to bide your time and wait for the circumstances - consequential from the actions being taken by your opposition - to bear fruit which you can utilize/exploit to your aims effectively.

In the present clime, you're not going to make any political headway, no matter how you optics-cuck, because of one simple reason: Comfort.
We are in the age of decadence my man. Shall we review?
The age of decadence is marked by:
Causes:

Fixed.

God dammit, user. I only consume alternative right media, so I am in an echo chamber, you could say, but I can still deal with people disagreeing with me, instead of sperging out like you.

Holy shit.

Thank you, user. You just proved my proposal even more right.

What even happened since the election? You think this token is "based right-wing populism"? It's nothing. It's shit.

irrelevant country with a corrupted, establshed party

Where is the populist party there?

Basic Bitch Conservatism lmao

I am not new.

This thread is getting worse and worse.

You mean the populism of the types of the "based countries" that user was telling me about? This is what I should approve of?

look above your post

Bringing back the old forests.

And you are being fooled that we'd live in a paradise, if we deported all immigrants tomorrow.

Why didn't young people vote for the AfD? Because they denied climate change and weren't pro enviroment enough.

Natural geopolitics would inevitably lead to Poland being added to Germany's sphere of influence. The EU is just an expression of that.

And that's another thing. You always lalk about something negative. Can't talk about any issue, because first "we have to kill the kikes and all spics and niggers".

Dude. I am "redpilled about the JQ" you could say. But what does that matter, if only 6% of young people vote for the AfD? This was kinda an epiphany for me.

WHAT WE ARE DOING DOESN'T WORK.

they become economically left-wing and dont want to hear stuff about "pulling yoursel up by your bootstraps"

I am not talking about that, because you people would never vote for someone that accidently just said one good thing about Israel, even though he just praised their border policy as an objectically good way to defend the border.
Or a single photo with the wife of a political is enough to distrust them.

Why do Aryans vote 'green' especially the young and ignorant? its the nature of the Aryans to put nature above all else.

Name one party that embodies Aryan values (hint: they are outlawed) the green thing is just in the minds of these people the only 'good' they can vote for. Look at it from where you used to be anons, the entire system is corrupt to the core but you still arent woke, you vote with your heart on some petty good.

At the very least take solace that they are Aryans waiting to awaken.

Sometimes you have to take a step forward before taking a step back. Not saying I agree with him or you, I'm just pointing that out - it may well be that we have to take a few steps backward before we can advance to our greater goals.

The Green Party is absolutely feminism, sjw, anti-industry, anti-development party incarnate.
They are absolutely ÜBER retards.

But I guess, Normeis are retarded enough to vote for them, because muh enviroment. I care ten times as much about the enviroment as the Greens, but that doesnt matter, if you are seen as right-wing.

That's why I said. If Deporations are right-wing, let's take the neoliberal/Stalinist approach and put them into work camps in cities isolated from the general population.

I already told you guys before, we need something almost as strong as science worship to replace the greens and lefties who prefer doing nothing and hurling dollars at immigrants. Regular nationalism isnt going to work, there needs to be something new. Under the banner of science which lefties only pretend to like, there can be a push to limit immigration and all that based on facts.
Think about how the leftie operates: In order to solve climate change, they never talk about inventing CO2 filtering machines or better water desalination plants or super cheap orbital solar power or whatever. Nono, we apparently all collectively have to stop eating meat.
Lefties are anti science and they are retarded. The only popular thing right now that is capable of gaining a large following is a hardcore science focused movement.

I agree. Ecofascism is the way to go. Splits leftist coalition and more importantly:
If we don't want to be exploited, we shouldn't do the same to the planet. Treat nature with love.

look that wont fly, you have to think like a stalinist. You dont put people into work camps, that's a fascist idea. The stalinist puts people into reeducation camps so for THEIR OWN GOOD they can be corrected to think the right way.
You understand? This is an idea that lefties will even embrace.

DONT CALL IT ECOFASCISM THOUGH!

The Millennial are prone to mass social media brainwashing. GenZ shows signs of natural rebellion, however the Millenials and their commie GenX bosses and professors are doing their best to drown out any and all opposition.
This is a failure of the education system.

That's why I used the "artifical cities" term in the OP, but I guess that went over people's head here and I had to use their prefered language to appeal to them. Just like refugees being concentrated into "articial cities" sounds much better than being put into camps.

still not orwellian enough. They should be called welcoming centers. The leftist is really that stupid, they respond to words. It's all they have. I get banned in leftwing forums all the time but they let through truly orwellian posts that would make your skin crawl.

We already have welcome centers. These are just facilities where they are processed.

I am thinking much bigger. Entire newly built cities only for refugees. A controlled, safe enviroment, where they can work, be educated and get policed, completly seperate from the rest of society.

elections won't have you escape your racial genocide.
Read SIEGE by James Mason
Join your Local NAZIS

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so you want to create your very own palestine inside your nation? That makes no sense unless these cities are outside of your borders which wont work in any way that I can see.
Call it a staging or welcome city only by name and then people can nicely outstay their welcome and every leftist will understand if you phrase it all the right way for their teletubby brains to understand. If you already have giant cities with people who get paid to live there (since immigrants dont work or adapt) what's the point? You already lost then.

No, I mean populism isn't "old school right wing politics", hence I was querrying what EXACTLY you are referring to. Please be specific.

Its amazing stuff!

So you simultaneously want post-industrialization AND large swathes of old-growth forest?
You don't see the likelihood of any… Conflict, any contradiction, therein?
… Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there HAS to be, mind you, but…

No I'm not, I'm pointing out that you're talking about national parks while being demographically displaced. IOW: You're missing the rape squads for the trees.

How did the young people vote with regards to the NSDAP during their rise to prominence?

So you want to advance to the stars while engaging power-generation methodologies that are innately insufficient for our needs - find me someone acknowledging anthropic climate change as a potential hazard (if not presently extant; at least, not in the ways most-commonly addressed) and 'pro environment' stances that ALSO embrace nuclear power, because I'd like to meet one besides myself - while talking about the environment and importing millions of migrants via petrol-based platforms thereby negating any and all environmental effect?
And do you have evidence that such is ACTUALLY why they didn't support those parties, as opposed to, ya know, the German youth being AGGRESSIVELY propagandized to and subject to literally decades of post-deNazificiation social engineering? If so, please provide it - I'm not accusing you of NOT having it, I'm asking to see it for myself.

The EU is not a good thing, period. A thing in that vein developed after the decline of such an incredibly-flawed and utterly corrupted mechanism? Maybe. But the EU? Nah. That's like saying the US can be saved. Nonsense.

Oh?
Well, first off, you're current on Zig Forums, not necessarily seeing how a Zig Forumsack candidate - lel - would approach narrative and discussion, so thats a bit disingenuous on your behalf.
Second, face it man - if you can't deal with (the "kill" bit is a bit of an exaggeration IMHO) these problems, you're not actually making any headway. And if you try to get in power and THEN deal with these problems, your support will evaporate very quickly, because the enemy controls the press, and so, while their pawns might be protected, yours will not. Hence, if you try to sell people one thing and pursue another once in power, you will be fucked.
And really, you have to face it man: Point 3, you HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE KIKES AND MUDMEN INVADERS. If you don't, NONE OF THE 'GREEN' SHIT WILL MATTER IN 20 YEARS, because you will have been demographically displaced and the people coming in behind DO NOT GIVE A SHIT about the environment. These people voting 'Green' and shit, they're being fed pleasant lies, just like the folks voting for "populists" running on the platform of nothing more than "REMOVE MUDMEN AND THEN KEEP BEING SHITTY PHILOSOPHICALLY".

Okay then, then what I'm saying should make a great deal of sense to you.
If I had voted when I was 'young' (how is 'young' being defined here, btw?), I'd have voted Democrat in all likelihood. By the time I was 30, that had all changed. That's the story for a great many people, and the difficulty of letting young people vote: They're fucking stupid and short-sighted and, especially in Europe, HEAVILY propagandized to, such that most won't come to their sense until they're well out of university. My guess would be that the NSDAP wouldn't have done too well with the 'young' in some of their early-stage attempts either. Do you have evidence of the contrary? Genuinely interested to learn more about this scenario.

So was reading Origin of the Species at 29 for me.

Who is 'we', nigger?
'We' aren't doing ANYTHING.
If you think, say, AfD, is demonstrable of Zig Forums? Get real! 'We' do not presently have a political platform, not even the potential for one, because we represent direct threat to (((the parasite))), and so, until we have conditions such that we can deal with the parasite, you won't make much headway. Thankfully, as usually happens, the consequences of (((the parasite)))'s action are being felt in a big way, and it will get worse in time. Just like it did during the Weimar.

I'd really like some of those evidentiary questions asked above to be answered, and I hope you won't take that as an attack.

Checking out the second bit next.

imagine believing you could escape this way

I've been saying the same thing. Taking a prescriptive rather than proscriptive approach is naturally going to gain more support anyway. Most importantly, it's the right thing to do.

Other anons have been supportive of the idea of attacking big oil from a nationalist standpoint.

Right. I'm just using the term from Big T. Eco-nationalism.

They are absolutely ÜBER retards.

I know user, but they arent voting with brains or even thinking beyond tomorrow, they arent woke to the JQ, they are literally voting with the thought "the environment is good, politics is bad, ill vote for the environment"

They do not even know who they are voting for, they dont know they are voting commie with green shades on. I know these people a lot of us used to be them.

Good.
Good.

That's not my point though. You give them economic hardship and they are more willing to see the cause of it, because now its making them personally and in a direct fashion UNCOMFORTABLE.
That's why it happened in Germany with the NSDAP by all accounts!
Why did people SUDDENLY support calling out the jews while embracing a pseudo-leftist (more Third Position really, taking the best from right and left) economic position and a more 'conservative' social position?
It was the economic hardships they were enduring, and the (((causes))) of that, which are the same (((causes))) liable to be behind future hardship in such economic vein, no?
Pic related, as it were.

Yeah, you kind of are, but I understand what you mean, and I didn't mean it as an attack: But what you're saying IS optics-cucking, you want to try to alter your optical presentation to appeal to a different swathe, to take on a different aesthetic suggestive of a new paradigm or approach.
I get that - BUT, what that amounts to, from what I'm seeing, is an alteration of optics such as to avoid aesthetic or context you believe to be harmful to overall goals… You are, in other words, optics cucking.

If it was accidentally? Maybe.
If not, no. I would never vote for someone who said something positive about Israel.
The reasoning behind that being, I've extensive experience with jews in modern and historical contexts, specifically zionists, and all indications that I've seen suggest that you cannot casually get into bed with the zionists - they won't allow that. If they deem you unviable, they will attack you sufficiently to drive you out of a pro-zionist position. If they deem you viable, they will welcome you into bed… And start filming what you do in that bed, the most perverse things you do, the most perverse things they OFFER YOU, and then they will use that against you. Every time, that appears to be how these people roll… So no, I'm not inclined to support someone saying nice things about israel, because it suggests either they don't realize this paradigm is in effect (or arrogantly think they can avoid it where so many others have not), or this paradigm already IS in effect upon them, and they are subverted and ready to betray at the most integral moment.

That pretty much never happens that I've seen. Show me an example on a case-by-base basis, but I can't recall a single time that I saw someone talking about israel's border policy in genuinely objective terms regarding the efficacy, without them in some way being compromised on the issue of zionism.

Please elaborate. I'm not familiar with this meme.

Forgot my pic.

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Lol never seen that one before good to see AWD is still kicking!

CIA psyop

I dont think that you understand, lefties do not actually care about the environment. They care only about power and the way they gain power is by consistently pretending to care about people, which they do by adopting the cause of environmental protection. They did this with science too to help normalize homosexuality.
The way to defeat the leftist thinking is to take something and phrase it as a way to help people. If we take science and phrase it as ultimately the best way to bring peace and prosperity to all people and so everybody has enough room to live on any other planet they choose, we can appeal to literally everybody. The leftist doesnt have to understand this, he will understand one thing and one thing only: This helps people, so he is for it. Just like the ecofascist doesnt have to understand that science will also enable us to save the planet and limit homosexuality. It all comes through science. Both sides can come together with their best qualities behind science worship which means to advance as quickly as possible.
We can then use that argument for anything we want just like the leftists abused science and twisted it, we have the advantage that it's actually true that immigrants are ruining society and homos are ruining society etc.

Well, they should be economical. If I was the leader of this new Party and got control of my country, I'd try to extract as much value from them as possible.

Imagine if Africans came to the US and voluntarily enslaved themselves.

No, I don't. Do you? Does all of Germany have to be a forest or be out of concrete?

"You can't have X, because of muslims."

I added this video to my watch later list a few days ago.
youtube.com/watch?v=K9AGx2q_F_0
Haven't watched it yet.

I have no idea and I want to kill myself. We won't ever achieve anything here with just right-wing populism.

A Zig Forums candidate would be fucking retarded, because he had to speak "honestly" about the j question, because he couldn't bear it to have a single user call him a Zionist. Patrick Little was your Zig Forums candidate.

Well maybe we need to become a minority to deal with them. It sure as fuck doesn't bother people right now.

If the economy ever collapses, they will all move somewhere else anyway.

Dunno, but I am ready to just abandon everything, delete all bookmarks of Zig Forums and other forums, delete my political discord, because of this shit. I can't bear this any longer. This constant hoping that "maybe Gen Z will be based", "maybe we can have a right-wing revolution too in Germany at least for the people heavily browsing the Internet and then only get 6% for young people.

Fuck all of this. Why even bother being a moral conservative, if you'd get attacked by other Right-Wingers for having a little bit of fun wtih a woman and get called a Sexist for wanting to treat women as more than sexual objects?
And the insane Incel Baggage we have to carry on our bags.
And despite all this we are just a tiny minority with no electoral power.

Why is it that right-wing behavior like monogamy, being a provider, etc is still valued so highly, but talking about it is so demonized?

This all makes me sick to my stomach.

EXACTLY. We don't do anything!

Look at how people treat Richard Spencer, who is an extremely intelligent guy with profund insights on the political Zeitgeist.

He is a much better Intellectual than a Leader for Protests.

I really like his "Leftists are sorta right in the wrong way and for the wrong reasons" takes.

Literally happened with Spencer. People attack him just because he says that Israel might be a good example on how to do things. People get triggered over this simple objective compliments.

Except this is literally true you subversive shill.
Muslims don't care about the environment, their IQs are too low.
Survival of the environment is secondary to survival of our race, if our race does not survive the environment won't either.

Yeah, I bet Farage is redpilled and based, right? Totally didn't gatekeep the anti-immigration attitude of Brits.

Brits are the only major power of Europe that don't have an anti-immigration party.

I didn't say anything about Farage or Britain.
You are here to subvert and distract, this was made obvious because you defended Richard Spencer.
You're probably from TRS. I hope your servers get smashed, sodomite.

And this is exactly the kind of splitting, paranoid attitude I hate.

Stop being naive. Politics are all show. The so called jews in control are criminals and they want to destroy humanity. If you participate in their games (politics, capitalism, religion etc.) you are enslaved in working towards your own destruction. They are not a "white" problem, they are a human problem, a literal parasite. Their bloodlines must be exterminated, usury must be abolished (you can't have monetary gain without labor), the abrahamic religions must be abolished (all self destructive control mechanisms) and most importantly…full segregation and capital punishment for race mixing must be enforced at all costs or humanity will perish.

The human race must collectively face reality and address the jewish question. Nothing else matters at this point. They've killed billions and they do not stop their ways of crime against humanity and planet earth.

Yes, extremely so.
It can't be both.

FTFY, and yes. That's simply a fact. You can't have X, because demographic displacement.

>youtube.com/watch?v=K9AGx2q_F_0
Looks interesting, but I'm not going to devote 20 minutes right now, I'm sure you understand.
Point being, if you look at the context of that video, and of coverage of that guy, you'll see that he is held up as an exception case, because he, like myself, are a rarity in these contexts.
I don't suppose you would know anything about his stances BEYOND this context? That's really the important bit, because the point I was making mentioning such was that most "Green" parties and shit, let alone outright leftist orgs, don't espouse this position and attack this position.
Doing a brief scrape on his name and certain keywords, I already found instances of him being attacked for his commentary on "the death of environmentalism" and pro-nuclear stance by people shilling for mudmen invaders and big corporate, most of them leftist.

Then that's not very helpful, is it?
Why? Wait, what am I saying? I know why. But you can't, because like dawn light in black sown, all darkness will be overthrown. I know its hard to believe now, but its the truth.
Do… Do you still think I'm DEFENDING "right-wing" populism? I want you to take a moment and go back to reading what I've said and see if you still think thats the case.

Yes, but you aren't listening to my whole narrative, which is that you HAVE TO DO THAT, and its a matter of context as to whether or not it will work. Why did it work for Hitler and not Patrick Little? Think on that and get back to me.

I don't think that's the case.
I think it does, given the scene in the general European elections. It may not be bothering THE YOUTH, but, I've already talked about why thats not a good metric.

With what money? And why do you assume they'll be accepted?
You think Whitey will get the same treatment as the muds? Hah, guess again my man.

Well thats unfortunate. Maybe look into it and get back to us? That would be more constructive than simply stewing in desapir making comments like
ya know?

You're going to have to my man. This is YOUR STRUGGLE.
Maybe Gen Z WILL be based… When they're a bit older.

What does that even mean? I've never seen that. If you're doing degenerate shit and trying to say its 'just fun', well… You kinda walked into that one, didn't ya?
That's something that might actually happen.

I'm starting to this is a LARP again, or perhaps you've just got some personal issues you need to work out.

Yup. Just like the NSDAP in 1928, right?

Demonized by (((whom))), exactly? The people who want to destroy you?
Yeah man, why WOULD they do that?

It should.

There is nothing to be done at this time. I know that's not what you want to hear, but its the truth.

I say again:

The cycle of man:

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Is he? I don't think so.
I don't see him as an ally at all, because of exactly what I said to you before about zionists.

I had my suspicions for a very long time, but I kept an open mind. Then I saw this.

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9:24 in Israel. Good morning, Moishe.

No it's not. get out and speak with the young and the old. Speak truth, talk problems and find way to unite them. Furthermore get as many as possible to become self sustaining, while shunning and actively protesting the beast system. Next show your colors by showing off your country flag everywhere (no political identity). You need unison, especially racial and most importantly segregate morally and stand up for each other at every opportunity. Instead of throwing slurs at others, use praise to boost yourselves. Also teach everyone to only move in large groups, build clans, financially help your own people in the neighborhood. Another thing…learn to chant. Sounds silly, but's it's one of the most efficient tools to unite mobs, terrify enemies, and confuse the shit out of anyone trying to discredit you. So whenever a jewish rat opens it's lying mouth to smear you, you get a group chant going that they can't understand. This also works great as means of protesting.

There's other issues with Spencer as well, mind you, but they are somewhat "complex" themselves in terms of how people rationalize narrative positions presented by "intellectuals" and the like.

I understand how people will argue that "holocaust denial is not beneficial to the movement!" or the like, but… If you're not going to deny, you should simply maintain a neutral/silent position. Pushing the jewish narrative on this front is explicitly shooting yourself in the foot, if you're attempting to pursue explicit White advocacy, because jews view explicit White advocacy as a threat, they have established a strong holohoax-based narrative opposing explicit White advocacy and have used it to condition/propagandize, with several major organizations backing that effort.
As such, while it may be true that holohoax denial has bad optical traits, its also strategically a dead-end to embrace that narrative which is most-commonly employed to demonize the very concept of explicit White advocacy regardless of expressed intent on behalf of the advocate in question.

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Optics are dead.

This one is necessary, however. Our religion gas been destroyed by kikes a millenium ago or so, to get it back se must first end Christianity's monopolyon the European spirit.

You're going to hit myriad cognitive brick-walls due to propaganda and conditioning, especially in Western Europe. Further, that's simply not going to develope into what we need.
We need a shared vision. That is what actually creates a movement. Unfortunately, our current adult generations have been infected with apathy, selfishness, materialism and nihlism in large part, so, often enough, any expression of passion or genuine sentiment just comes off as "gay" or "try hard" or "LARP" or some shit, ya know?
It comes back to what I said before:

Then why don't young people fucking vote Right-Wing?

I thought i was part of an internet revolution. I thought young people would find to us, because of memes. Be right-wing and a Nationalist, because it's cool.

But I guess I am just inside an echo-chamber. 40% non-german births. Where is my right-wing internet evolution, user?
You promised.

Because the currency of Germany was Zimbabwe-tier and the economy wasn't much better.

I am talking about the immigrants, not the native Europeans.

This is what literally happens.
Feminsits want to be protected and treated respectfully, but that can only come from right-wing, traditional men.

They want to be seen as more than just sexual objects, but that again .. comes from right-wing traditionalism, where being a mother and housewife was respected.

It's so shizo. If you do what they say, you'd strip everything from them and make them just into more stupid and weaker versions of men that you want to fuck. It's like a shit test.. For civilization.

If I think about stuff like this, I don't want to abandon it all, but at the same time it all seems to hopeless again.

If you don't see how the Incel and women-hating crowd has attached themselves to the Right-Wing, you need to wake up or you are one of them.

user … back then we had a massive demographic of disgruntled soldiers, traditional women and a lot of right-wing men, economic collapse and a 100% white ethnostate … before Hitler even took power.

I just legit thought I was part of right-wing internet revolution and wasn't stuck inside an echochamber of a tiny radical minority.

What Richard said is completly correct. I try to translate it:

He never said that "Islam is the real problem". He said Islam is an obvious enemy . He often says that Islam is the "Black Flag raised against the White Race" and that is true. It's a very obvious civilization clash.

Jews on the other hand, you can't just declare war on Jews like you can declare war on ISIS. It's a completly different problem that probably most people will never comprehend in its entirety.

>and nobody who pushes such a narrative line can be trusted. Especially not one with so many ties to zionist jewry, going all the way back to his ((('mentor')))

He isn't pushing a narrative. This is an intellectual discussion. Not rabble rousing.

Calling Richard Spencer a shill is honestly one of the things that makes me hate this part of the right-wing so much sometimes.

You don't know from what perspective he is saying these things. He doesn't come from a "conservative" standpoint that says "We aren't responsible for Slavery, because it wasn't us that did it". He agrees with the Left that White People represent a history, where as Conservatives deny that History.

It's a kinda unique perspective of the Alt/New/dissident Right. He basically says to just take ownership of ALL of our history, good and bad.

Pavle Mocilac, PhD, University of Manchester

Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty much of that view as well.

All this "you have to be pro-jewish" "you have to be pro-zionist" "you have to say you believe in the holocaust" shit, I just don't think its actually true? I think the reason its failed in the past is because the circumstances weren't right and the guys doing it weren't sufficiently charismatic.

I'm not at all inclined towards disagreement with you in this capacity.
That's sort of the problem with our society though, in a sense, why many - myself included - believe its basically going to have to get near-death (or at least FUCKING BAD) before any real changes are made: Our societal soul is basically dead, and infected with semitic memetic pathogens like universalist abrahamic monotheism, and later materialistic nihilistic apathy, the latter being the death of the former to at least some extent.

Until we can find something to combat that, to generate ascendant hopefulness and optimism without it being linked to a resurgence of the cults of semitic demons, I think we're gonna have a bad time.

What're his views on mass immigration and how is he received (ie, as an exceptional case, yay or nay; and specifically how does the left treat him)?

Richard Spencer was mentored by a Jew and glows in the dark.
He was signal boosted by mainstream media just like other aut kike figures back during 2015 - 2017.

We need another Hitler or equivalent, and before then we probably need a major crisis.
Supporting controlled opposition figures poisons this movement.
But it seems like the time for National Socialism has come again, with the internet acting like the modern version of radio during the 1920s and 1930s, and mass disillusion with society similar to what happened during that era.

If the economy collapses, the US goes to war with Iran, or something else happens to further destabilize society, it will be a massive opportunity.
Right now it's 1919 - 1920.

Nationalism is growing. Nationalism in America probably can not be saved peacefully. In Europe, however there is a chance for Nationalism. We can still stamp parties out of the ground and make them grow. Many of these parties will be controlled opposition, but dont forget that they are doing work for us. Some of the parties have just started growing and its our task to make them grow and to stay aware of psyops.
Violence doesnt work when the masses wont agree with it. I think most partys in Europe that advocate for leaving the EU are controlled opposition. Leaving the EU is a bad thing to happen for Natsocs because we will be targeted by lefties and ALL governmental parties. They are funded and are controlled by globalists.

For me its obvious that the Brexit campaign what is already taking a ton of years is just a psyop to make people think that leaving the EU is a legit option. We NEED the EU to be able to grow as a NatSoc party, otherwise the resistance to grow will be way to huge.

So what? Is every interaction with a jew bad?
And glow in the dark is not an argument.

Untill he wasn't. And he wanted their attention and got it.

He isn't controlled opposition though. How do you know? Farage is. Tommy Robinson is. All the populist parties that slow the process of replacement, legimitize it.

Same reason they weren't by all indications in 1928. Again, what is "young" in this context again?

Yeah, you're fucking stupid by the sound of it my man. That's retarded.

Pic related bud.

Exactly. How'd it get that way? And who did that?
And what do you think 40% non-german births is going to do if maintained for any length of time? And who did THAT?
See where I'm going with this?

Oh, well then… Let them? That would be a good thing, no?

Feminists are retarded. Women are retarded. That's why Hitler banned them from many political positions, remember?

Yes, that's exactly what it is. Women are retarded. And when they get too much power, retarded things happen. And the consequences of that… Well, remember the

Forgot my pic last time.

Look bud, in the offhand chance you're not some kind of faggot-ass shill, let me paint you a picture.
Imagine every female you know - family, friends, lovers, all of them - is a prostitute. Not because she wants to, but because its necessary to survive. Imagine every man you know is living a life of defeated desperation, a decade after your nation was defeated in a terrible and brutal war that left your streets clogged with mangled half-men, shadows of once noble beings crippled by hardship.
I want you to imagine standing on the street in the snow, shivering, with an empty belly, outside a fancy hotel, watching rich jews from around the world come to your homeland to experience carnal delights that even the Levantines would turn up their noses at.
Welcome to 1928.

What one man can do, another can do. This is your struggle. The new nation isn't just going to come down out of the clouds, ya know?

I've seen this, but, I haven't seen it approximating anything like what you're suggesting.

Looks like you got your work cut out for you then, don't it?
You think your situation is bad?
Listen here cousin - because you are my cousin, far removed perhaps - I want you to now imagine you live in a once-great land, founded as a White ethnostate… That slowly wasted away… Soon, you weren't even 50% of the country, but you had half the world's jews living comfortably in your lands. Your nation is a laughing stock. Your people are dying in droves to filthy drugs peddled by billionaire kikes. In addition to the far-flung mongrels which breach your shores - the same sort you're seeing today - you also have freakish negroids living in inbred ghettos in every city - most have been completely overtaken, were so before you were born - and hyper-violent savage-stock, streaming in by the tens and hundreds of thousands each year… Welcome to to my life in 2018.
Things can get a lot worse my man. And they're going to have to before things get better.

You weren't, and I have NO IDEA why you would think that.
I don't think that's true either - and I don't believe you could possibly have come to that conclusion, thus, I further suspect this is LARP… But I'll engage for the sake of it potentially not being, and for the audience of course.

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Yes, yes, 'very complex', that is what he kept saying… But is it really? So much more 'complex' than islam? I don't think so. I think its more blatant, we've just been more heavily conditioned against seeing it… And why is that? Because its the real (((enemy))). Islam is just a sword. Without the jews, Islam is nothing but inbred savages at our mercy. But WITH the jews, well… All that changes. And zionist are well aware of that and some of the worst offenders, because it serves them to present themselves as mild and humble and weak (while in reality being the most 'insidiious' and pervasive threat) while showing the muslims as hazard (while in reality being nothing but a consequence of jewish influence upon us).

You're right, I was paraphrasing. What he DID say was "jews aren't taking our women and putting them in hijabs or whatever" and he's right - jews are taking our women and putting them in pornographic films.
He went on to say "I don't think Zionism is inherently an enemy in that sense", referring to control over media and "how we dream" (whatever the fuck that means…), and that's an absolutely nonsensical statement in-context given the various connections of that sort between media and zionism.

I disagree, I would suggest the conflict with the jews is the TRUE civilizational clash, the islamic component is merely that - a component. The conflict with islam isn't even so much 'civilizational' so much as 'philosophical' and the brutal truth is, in many regards, islam has a better handle on its philosophy than does Western Europe under judaic subversion.
Declaring war on ISIS IS declaring war on jews, that's just the rub of it. Granted, nobody says so openly… But why not? I think this acceptance of the status quo on discussion is a falsehood, and the Overton window is much wider than the standard narrative I hear suggests.

I disagree with that in-entirety, particularly in the context of the israeli zionists.

He definitely is, whether or not you agree with that narrative is the question.
Its a discussion, wherein a given party is being querried and presenting their narrative positions on various topics - in this case, a man who claims his 'mentor' was a zionist jewish man (Paul Gottfried) and who is now saying that "zionism is not an enemy in the context of controlling media narratives", claiming "the jewish question is just so complex" and promoting the narrative of the holohoax (whether for optics or not, pretty irrelevant).

I do though.
He should.
No, no, no. "Conservatives" don't deny that history at all, they embrace it and cuck on it. Nationalists, however, point out that much of the 'history' presented IS IN FACT A LIE. And those lies form the narrative foundation which acts to inhibit such activies as explicit White advocacy. As such, they MUST BE CONFRONTED (as opposed to 'embraced' or 'owned') because to internalize these narratives is to legitimize and solidify EVEN FURTHER the foundations which act to inhibit what is necessary to serve a truly Nationalistic stance.

Yes, its very cucky. Its EXTREMELY cucky, and almost-certainly for optics - which basically everyone with half a brain sees through immediately. If its NOT for optics, also a possibility and a strong point of suspicion because of his stance on zionism and associations therewith, then he's trying to poison his own people with a weak cucky narrative which will only act to inhibit.
Taking ownership of a false history which is inherently designed and aimed to discredit your very perpetuation as a biologic and cultural clade, consciously and purposefully internalizing such a thing, is the paramount of dysgenic behaviors.

In a mentorship capacity? Yes.
Jews are wretched creatures and are the (((great enemy))) of our kin, and the primary source above all others of our current woes. Thus, mentorship beneath such a creature, is certainly a terrible omen.

And they used him, he didn't use them; then he killed his own branding by foolishly associating with questionable characters and then turning on them and the audiences they had generated. Now… I haven't heard anything meaningful out of him in quite some time, probably since that livestream where IT SURE FUCKING SEEMED he had a Black woman in his apartment during a livestream.

He certainly appears so.
I've described as much in detail, but you can't really KNOW with certainty in this scenarios, so asking that and then going to what you say next seems somewhat ridiculous.
Yes, he is.
Yes, he is.

Does that in any way inhibit Spencer from also being such? No, not at all.

I'd agree with that sentiment to at least some extent, namely in regards to the suggetion that it ought not be slowed, but halted entirely.

No, I understand perfectly. However, you might be misunderstanding where I'm coming from. The issue that you're raising is fair. Hardcore leftists do not care about hypocrisy but a lot of their base is not that way. The liars and legitimately evil opportunists are in charge, they don't represent everybody though. I'm glad no one wrote me off when I was a leftist. They essentially program "trigger phrases" to shut down a norm's reasoning centers. Getting past that is only half the battle.

I think you're being both too optimistic and too pessimistic. It doesn't make sense to group all of them together, instead the whole idea is to create fracture points in every plank in the mainstream platform to weed out the sincere people from the NPCs.

Science worship is dumb because there isn't anything spiritually satisfying behind it. Empirical observation is great but that's a process, not a set of beliefs. It can be easily twisted, which is why they're like that in the first place. It took us 8 years to actually get a large amount of people to accept the racial gaps in IQ despite knowing about them for 100. Don't assume instant acceptance. Unfortunately, everything is based on what people believe, not the objective truth.

You're assuming you can just go out and preach the truth and everybody will go, "yeah, totally!" when all evidence points to the contrary. I've been doing this for a long time, it doesn't matter if you're right, it matters if people listen.

Same jew spam Zig Forums has been bitching about in the fucking meta.