Xi tells China's parliament 'only socialism can save China'

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So if every uni student has to study Marxism why does the Chinese left appear so weak? I mean assuming they aren’t studying some revised, abridged, butchered version of it, shouldn’t they see all the massive porkyism of the CPC for what it is?

the CCP is better at being the Kuomintang than the actual Kuomintang. Sun Yat Sen is the happiest man dead right now.

Students good in marxism are co-opted in the government

imo Chinese porkies study Marx in the same way that the Western establishment studies Keynes. They are less interested in his theories from the perspective of the laborer then they are in analyzing it from the perspective of capital.

It's interesting to read radical Keynesians, they always claim that governments and capitalists fail to understand the true meaning of Keynes work. These petit-bourgeois idealists see things from the perspective of the alleged benefits that Keynes theories have to offer the worker and "society" rather then its actual function as a mode of capitalist governance/regulation. In this way, I'm not claiming that Keynesianism is a proletarian ideology, it never was and was never intended to be but laying down an explanation for why there seems to be "two Keynesianisms" if you will.

Before there was Keynesianism there was revisionist Marxism which claimed that to have found a peaceful way to socialism or a utopian capitalism. It turns out that China has shown that revisionist Marxists is much better at managing capitalism then Keynesians–the irony of that being that Keynesianism was created exactly for such a purpose.


This is actually quite true. In some respects, Mao always remained a KMT left-winger imo even if he was forced to change parties.

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?Mao always remained a KMT left-winger imo even if he was forced to change parties.
This makes the Shanghai Commune a much more depressing tragedy.

So, does anybody have any actual insight as Chinese students and CPC members actually study Marx or is this just speculation? I've only talked to one Chinese exchange student and he told me he was required to read the Communist Manifesto and Value, Price and Profit.

Until we have some first-hand information about how they read Marx we can speculate all we want. I feel there is a lot of ignorance about modern Chinese theory.

Nah, State capitalism was when the State heavily regulates the capitalist process to protect the people from capitalism. China is a straight plutocracy, and is doing the opposite. A dab of nationalism and militarism, and imperial ambitions on the whole thing, and they are pretty much fascists wearing red. Red fashists, if you will. Dengists are the real red fashists is what I am saying.

It'll be fun to see what alternative they provide in place of America in the future

I'm personally curious if they will hit the communism button decades from now, when their productive forces are the best and most diverse in the world, will they do it?

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While america has some pretty shitty institutions they are by no means the worst. Distrust is exacerbated by a longstanding culture of wariness of government that is still going strong from colonial times.