France thread

Unexpected tbqh.

What kind of idpol? Immigrants and muslims?

Immigrants (refugees or not), muslims, third wave feminism and LGBTI.

The funny thing is that the PCF (who was Marxist-Leninist at the time) was hostile to May 1968 at first, but now even the PCRF like the legacy of May 68.

Everybody likes the legacy of '68 now, considering it's been emptied of its radical content and appropriated by the spectacle as a shallow, undefined "moment of rebellion". In Belgium 2018 has even been officially declared "the Year of Protestation" for the 50th anniversary of '68. Just like how the Black Panthers' image is used by the likes of Beyoncé.

I mean. It was a fucking failure let's be honest. Even ☭TANKIE☭s like it these day because we got nothing else

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They care more about immigrants than french proles, so yes it's idpol.
Also, immigration is liberalism, not socialism.

Not sure who or what you're talking about. It sounds like your usual conservative hot take about how people of immigrant descent having access to the same welfare provisions as natives is "putting immigrants before true Frenchmen" or some shit.

This sentence doesn't even make any fucking sense. Reads like you actually had a hard time cobbling it together.

"Anti-idpol" originated as a rightful materialist dismissal of non-class based, identity-based politics and and now it's turned into a fucking joke, a buzzword spouted by retarded Zig Forums renegades desperately trying to fit in here. Sad!

It's not about descent, it's about immigrants, people who don't have the french nationality.

Immigrants already have access to most welfare as any "native", but it's not about welfare. It's about immigrants who came from countries where there's a high unemployment and low wages so they came to France (or another Western country) to have better conditions, I can understand that, but so do the capitalists because immigration lower wages of french proles, rise the unemployment (and so the reserve army of labour) which has for effect to pressure the workers to accept more and more neoliberal reforms.

There's no true or false Frenchmen, you have the nationality or you don't have it. It's the same for every country.

Like I said, immigration advantage the bourgeois, not the workers. The left should advocate for anti-immigration policies instead of leaving it to reactionnaries. That's why the Front National became mainstream.

No because Zig Forums is idpol too.

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