Women and IDPOL

I have a basic question: Why are women predominantly into liberal idpol? It seems to me when I look at all the overblown nonsense about "le es jay dubs" going nuts at campus' its mostly women. Most of the women I run into subscribe to soft idpol ideas about gender diversity quotas on corporations and shit. The hardcore idpol people i know from my uni who i avoid like the plague are 9/10 women.

So why is it?

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Lefty dudebros aren't doing much good to bring over women when they start gaslighting them and denying they have real issues which go beyond who controls the means of production.

as long as capitalism exists it is the right thing to do to advocate for quotas for women, PoC Queers and other marginalized groups. Why it is so hard for middle class males(specially white males) to admit that they have it easy under capitalism(a system that was literally built to benefit them) compared to marginalized folks?

i dont think anyone with an understanding of class would deny these things, i mean racism and sexism from my understanding are extensions / expressions of class society.

are you denying white males unfairly benefit under capitalism? are you denying the wage gap is a thing? are you denying gendered socialisation doesn't railroad women into lower paying and or stereotypically femenine occupations?

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Anything that makes anybody's life any easier under capitalism is ultimately a policy that keeps capitalism alive.

I was considering making a post that outlined my actual views. Then I read these and was reminded what a bunch of turds feminists are.

i explicitly stated that i don't deny that males benefit under capitalism, are you fucking stupid or what?

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You are not assuming personal responsibility for the suffering of your marginalized comrades, that is something you should do in order to be a leftist. You don't know how women feel. You don't know how your comrades of colour or your queer comrades feel. You will never know, cause you are used to being the default.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

what about the thousands of things that make white middle class males lives easier? compare to the things that actively make the lives of queers and people of color harder, eh?

We're gonna get rid of those things too that's why whitey is so mad lately. It's gonna be great.

This is actual identity poitics. Socialists feel no guilt for things which are inherent in the system or are essentialized properties. Kys.

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Yes, because the thing that makes someone in a marginalized group better off is seeing someone who looks like them or fucks like them doing better then them, right? Get this liberal Volksgemeinschaft out of here.

As silly as this sounds,he is right.
But let us not go deep into idpoll well,lest one drowns themselves.
Our fight is agaisn't capitalism itself,that includes all hierarchical systems that are in place to sustain it.

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He is not, go back to liberal/pol/


Because middle-class women are one of the core demographics for current-day liberalism.

Take your time

Because diversity quotas are neoliberal feelgood band-aid fixes that perpetuates a broken system. They doesn't target the root problems of oppression, but are a mere lottery that puts a few token minorities into positions they may or may not have otherwise got through merit. Now I can't tell if the black woman they hired on to our dev team is actually a good programmer or just got there because the company doesn't want to be sued, and if it's the later we now have a burden to put up with.

I think part of this need for diversity is actually caused by the capitalistic brainwashing of needing to keep up with the Joneses. The idea that if a profession has too few of X demographic that it somehow implies a lack of skill in the field and not just interest, and that an individual of that minority is somehow betraying their idpol-spookgroup by not perusing a career they're not interested in.

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you look retarded when you call anyone with a dick whos insufficiently feminist a 'dudebro', y'know
to literally everyone else on the planet that conjures the same image as "chad", but more drunk, and potentially fat from too much beer.

Because a man is probably 10 times more likely to face social sanction (e.g. get the shit beat out of him) for being a faggot. Either in the sense of being non-heterosexual or in the sense of being an obnoxious tool.

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Because most of them don't give a fuck about anyone else, just themselves, i.e women.

What the fuck is that cartoon? The bags are full of so much burden that even if the white dude carried an equal amount as everyone else they'd all still be carrying burden, that would solve nothing.

Rightyo
Correct stance on IdPol is as follows:
"The goal is the liberation of the working class. This means the liberation of all workers black, white, gay, straight etc. The issues faced by "marginalized folk" are byproducts of the class system and tools used to divide the working class. A fight against racism is not necessarily a fight against capitalism but a fight against capitalism must fight racism to succeed"

Has anyone still got that quote about how the middle class wife has become one largest defenders of capitalism because she has come under the false illusion that she has everything to lose? It was a quote from some socialist that someone posted a while back

studies show women vote more left wing
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they admit the straight, able-bodied, white man has a burden. now they're just debating amounts.

Looks like the mods just took out the trash

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I used to organize with a badass black girl who was basically Comrade Hampton reborn, even wore the leather jacket and black beret. Probably one of the smartest and most committed comrades I’ve ever had.

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Lot of women hate threads the past few days eh?

im not saying this isn't a problem, cus it obviously is, but singling out women is pointless. Attack idpol as a whole, not just certain branches

"""marginalized folk""" is a glittering generality, a buzzword like """hardworking families""" or """the people""".

It's a misplaced maternal instinct. Give them 9 or 10 white children and the problem solves itself by satisfying (saturating even) their emotional need to care for the powerless and vulnerable.