Why is the left so rotten with vice?

I think it's mostly the American left. All the leftist people I know are pretty clean in the addiction department and don't have any severe issues.

This.

What does being "rotten" mean?
Have you got any evidence that addiction to hard drugs is more widespread among leftists than among the general population?
Sounds like you just made that up.

I think that he is just a loser that sees PEPE autists as the bottom ranks. Or someone that has never met skinheads.

i am more wondering who is supposed to be the left's bottom ranks according to this guy. antifa squatters?

Maybe this is just in the UK but rightists here are almost exclusively sweaty, beer-bellied middle-aged divorced men who ere either balding or skinheads. Leftists on the other hand tend to either be young and healthy or old guard. At least in my experience the more politically involved they are the more likely they are to be straight edge.
The reason people are on the right is because they've already thrown their lives away and lost all their potential.

Since he sounds american i guess he means the antifa protesters.

lol, how does he know that if he never gets off his computer whining about ""vice""

What vice?
What even is "vice" if not a judea religious idea about things that are against the belief system?

Basically being a hipster punk liberal.
I know why are not liberals and bla bla bla but we are really not doing anything to distance ourself from them

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next time, just fucking google it.

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whatever you say mr. roman statue avatar

ok bro

See this >>>2466399
Why the fuck can't do some self criticism?
These elements are no good around us and if you point this out "HURR WHATEVER PEPE".
Even fucking orwell criticized them.

just go back to reddit and stop embarressing yourself.

the point is that it's not self-criticism if it's not part of the self

respectability politics and larping as factory workers from the 30s are gay

I personally believe it has a lot to do with being social outcasts.

It's meant as bad image for everything left-wing I suppose. The left lacks inspiring characters that can make people feel like they're just like them and not another bunch of "antifa stonethrowers". Think of youtube personalities like Varg Vikernes, Peter Molyneux, Lauren Southern, etc.

i don't think anyone takes varg and le arguments man seriously

No it's part of the self, again, even orwell wrote about this how communism attracts these kind of punks ecc.
Are you denying the affiliation they have with us?

Sure, going around like tree huggers and punks brought us a lot of results.

That's what I was saying when I said that we are not doing anything to distance ourself from college redlibs.
We let liberals money grabber like contra,soybomber and muke go around and call them self spokesman for the left.
And if you criticize them you must be reddit or Zig Forums.

Vikernes was a Black Metal guy who did drugs, and murdered someone who was an even bigger degenerate

Molymeme got divorced which was an absolute shit show, he also ran a cult

Lauren Southern probably slept with multiple brown/black people

These are really not the people who could point the finger at others

wasn't southern the one who tried to sue the uk over being b& irl due to being a massive alt-shite or something like that.

I agree, but it's not like our propagandist are any better

yeah

supreme dialectics

Do Contrapoint or Bomberguy even claim to be socialists? From what I understand they're first and foremost known as anti-alt-right debunkers. As for Muke, he's virtually unknown outside of tiny on-line leftist circles. What do you want us to do about these people anyway, harass them?

They wink at twitter socialist for pantreon bucks.
They are even posted here from time to time.
The problem is that they claim to be spokesman for the left in general
I posted a thread about this two assholes yesterday. We shouldn't harass them but we should have more presence on the internet in general.

Muke also claims to be a spokesman for the Marxist perspective on YouTube. However, the only spokesman he is in practice is for raising awareness that illiteracy still exists in the Frist World.

AnCaps are literally all pedos and the Nazis were all methheads. Meanwhile the USSR banned drugs and porn.

Fent is the opiate of the masses now

What if I told you that a person who sits around, does drugs and faps, but does so with the conscious aim of satisfying their ego, is less of a slave than a person who is held by the fixed idea of self improvement?

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Juche's legal weed is great

Spanerd here.

In my land the right is known because their tradition are: Prostitutes, cocaine and voting PP ( volkspartei- CDU - Republican )

That sound no pious enough to me…

CDU is a dying party supported by old geezers and conservative boomers.

this. Both of them do quite well researched counters and discussions of alt right talking points, and while they may hold socialist views they don't necessarily make socialist videos, if you get my meaning. Hell I knew hbomber from his gaming videos first

understandable strategy but the bleating state of the sheep that congregate around jbp, varg, bolyneux etc should serve as a warning against us building our own "idols" or "thought leaders", so to speak, at least not on say YouTube. Spread awareness, talk about our ideas, fight back against the tide of reactionaries, yes, but the specific desire to have inspiring characters is detrimental to the kind of self-criticism(or infighting if you prefer) that prevents us from being red sheep.

No, and while we should make it clear what we are not(idpolers) we shouldn't exactly be kicking them out on the street. Most liberals(especially the edgy hipsters you mention) at heart want to change something, but they're too blinded by the lies of porky and liberalism is general. Engaging and explaining to them the roots of the oppression they want to fight against would go a long way in educating them and using that affiliation you mention in a good way: making more poeple more class conscious

cmon guys

They aren't satisfying their ego, they're drowning it out. Nietzsche knew this. Why are you posting Nietzsche?

Our propagandists aren't pretending to be people that they aren't though

No, but it is. So many who might join us are turned off by SJWs and Antifa, who they associate with us because they're so ignorant. We need to be a movement of the people, the normal people, and not outcasts.

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Is this actually not a joke?

Varg is a carjacking, church-burning murderer who had weapons and parole violations even a decade after his most famous crimes. In any country with a death penalty, he wouldn't even be alive today.

We aren't rotten with vice. We aren't special. Largely, mainstream attacks on the left are over the liberals and (most of) the actual left as well being openly ok with various individual liberties which don't harm or impede others. Liberals showboat this, and right-wingers use it for cheap political attacks which really rely on their own suppression and strawmen about others.

t. guy who's fucked strung-out nationalists in the ass, been with Muslims, conservative S&M enthusiasts, whitebread dopesmoking pederasts, etc.

If they are pushing their own satisfaction to the rejection of society’s judgement or moral inhibitions then they are satisfying their ego.

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I don't know about that one, mate

One thing is vice, another thing is being a rotten fucker.
Learn mixology and make your alcholism sexy and socially acceptable.

Thinking private acts have any import whatsoever, much less in terms of morality, is actual fun.

Shut the fuck up, christian. Øystein is a hero.

Tell me more.

Alright, but his viewers only shrug at that. They essentially worship him as the incarnation of the Allfather Odin. These right-wing cult personalities are sprouting everywhere because people imitate and idolize them religiously. Existing leftist characters that portray themselves in an undesirable way only reaffirm their dangerous beliefs.

This wouldn't be such a problem if people were all smart and capable of independent thought. But we're living in a society of shallow "subscribers" and "followers" that judge people on first glance. If you don't win these people someone else definitely will.

There is a moral value to tolerating what most right-wingers consider "degeneracy"

It is morally right to tolerate, for instance, a woman's choice to walk around town in short shorts and a crop-top. It is morally wrong to deem this choice "degenerate" the same way it is morally right to tolerate her choice to not wear a hijab

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Fuck off moral fag, everyone will walk around nude once communism is instated.

What the hell didn't you understand about "bread AND rose-print thong panties"?

That will have to include all the chan board incels then. No? Oh no…

Yes lets go full nazbol and dogwhistle to nazi's. Lets win the hearts of cretins.

ewwww who are these people