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Xi Jinping is absolutely just Chinese Gorbachev, and most arguments Jinpingists make for him could just be easily have been applied to Gorby.
"Socialism is when the market does stuff" - Xi
Benjamin Anderson
Nathan Scott
Wouldn't it be more accurate to say Deng Xiaoping was the Chinese Gorby though, and that every leader after him has just been a continuation of the same policies?
Benjamin Cox
It is not about Xi being a socialist, it's about nuking the USA and starting WW3.
Gavin Bennett
Deng was smart, Xi is a brainlet.
Chase Myers
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.
It's a geopolitical power play. He seeks to put China at the center of a globalized, neoliberal world order. He's playing to the Davos crowd, with an eye towards further enabling what he's trying to do with the One Belt, One Road project. Eurasian economic integration. Trump is making the neoliberal globalists a bit nervous with his erratic belligerence, and he's playing at looking like the reasonable, "I only care of it good for business" capitalist.
It's a fair gamble. You can't take on the whole capitalist world, the encirclement and strangulation of the Soviet Union pointed to that. You have to first chain it to you, hold it hostage.
Or maybe I'm imagining too much 4D Go.
Josiah Thompson
no because not a single eastern block leader was as much of a faggot as Deng. Nobody can be compared to how much of a revisionist piece of shit he was, not even Gorbachev
Michael Adams
I think the comparison with Gorby is a bit weird, because in Gorby's hands the entire system collapsed and was badly managed, whereas Deng was a smart economic manager on which foundation Xi builds upon. However, China is not socialist. I don't know if there are any German-speakers on here, but here is this brilliant article from the KPD in Germany as to why China isn't socialist, and how the CPC are revisionists of megalomaniacal proportions:
k-p-d-online.de
It goes in detail into all aspects of the class character in China, the CPC, and their understanding of Marxism. Maybe Google Translate can help
Cameron Hill
*blocks your path*
Logan Rodriguez
Does anybody have his book about the governance of China? I'd be genuinely interested in reading it. I don't have any opinion of Xi either way, unless I read his theory. His political statements are useless because every politican has to bend his words.
Carson Richardson
Ceaușescu was a steadfast Stalinist.
Thomas Myers
Who would win?
A staunch Marxist-Leninist-Maoist who was trained from birth in the science of historical materialism and raised himself to the highest position in the country without straying from the path to Socialism while also being aware of the current material conditions and the tendency to drift towards left wing deviancy
Or
Some mong online that read some western news sources and decided to copy paste them to a Vietnamese snake charming forum while posting with 'le spooky cat'
Kevin Nelson
nah, the ☭TANKIE☭ is right. He was a piece of shit. Still doesn't beat Deng though
Jackson Thomas
Carson Bennett
You don't know what you're talking about.
Daniel Lopez
He was a piece of shit, precisely because he was a Stalinist.
Tyler Price
I'm not well-versed in theory, but isn't capitalism supposed to reach its limits before true socialist revolution can finally happen? didn't marx said that free trade will bring the collapse of capitalism faster?
it makes sense to me that you want a global capitalist economy first so you can overthrow it with a globalized proletariat
Owen White
It's a valid theory. The last labour reserve is Africa, once they have been mobilized it's over. Xi is trying to position China in an advantageous position for the end game in 20 years.
fantasy born from desperation
Bentley Hill
lol just look how capitalism is about to turn everything to dust just right now
Blake Smith
Logan Garcia
Even Gorbachev wasn't this pathetic, at least Gorbachev knew the "communist" party of the USSR was a charade
Alexander Collins
You could make the exact same claim for Gorbachev, that's my point. If the internet existed then, I'm sure you would've been like "Oh you don't understand, Gorbachev is just playing 4D chess, he studied Marxist-Leninism all his life, and you're just criticizing him here"
Carter Watson
I wouldn't say so. Gorby didn't do a full blown purge like Xi is doing right now. Expect Commerce Sec Ross to call China out on their lip service and the trade war to happen regardless. Also at the most baseline, Gorby was a reformist against the old guard while Xi is part of the old guard (even if he isn't a hardcore ☭TANKIE☭).
Jackson Cook
How many times are you gonna post this shit, at least you didn't post the stupid macro this time that says the same exact thing. Capitalist apologists on the "left" like you are more gulag worthy than the average conservative.
Evan Russell
If China were socialist, the Alibaba guy wouldn't be a billionaire and there wouldn't be sweatshop workers making pennies a day.
William Hernandez
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Carter Howard
Carefull that's trot talk. The ☭TANKIE☭s'll get ya.
Jeremiah Fisher
Pretty common around here.
I'd say it's not completely unreasonable.
James Myers
Two-stage theory is completely opposite of trot talk, it is literally Stalinist talk.
Jason Rogers
You understand that the meme your using has the simpler answer being right, correct?
Andrew Cooper
t. basement dwelling westerner that embodies the latter option in my post
I would disagree because China was already positioned towards a market economy when Xi gained power while Gorbachev introduced the ideas and propagated them when they weren't particularly popular.
I criticize western attacks on China because they frequently come from an ignorant point of view or they're clouded by western views. China is certainly not Socialist now but no member of the Communist party believes that, they are working towards Socialism.
There are many criticisms to make against China but pretty much all are recognized by the party and are being worked on by them. As a westerner, I find it hard to point out fault in their policy while there are much more enormous tasks that face us.
adapt or die fagur wron tho
Wyatt Garcia
holy shit, that's a beautiful girl. source?