Ethnic replacement of Europeans

Why do you want to ethnically replace my people (Norwegians) comrades? ;(

The % of ethnic Norwegians in Norway are only decreasing, and this is true for many other European ethnicities in their own countries. Why do most people on the left welcome this? Here in Norway they even want this ethnic replacement to happen at a much faster rate. Malmø in Sweden, London in the UK and soon Oslo in Norway (if not already), the native population is already in a minority.

I would say that I'm a Communist, but I can't identify with the ones calling themselves that.

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Maybe you should fuck more and keep that population up. Question is can you afford it?

I’m going to make you wish the Vikings were still around Leif Erickson descenders!

Even if we had 2.1 children per woman, we would be ethnically replaced. This isn't an argument. I don't think you can justify a birthrate higher than 2.1 anywhere, taking the environment into consideration. I want this earth to last forever.


What?

Paranoid garbage. Other people immigrating to your countries isn't a replacement or genocide, that is an insult to actual victims of genocide. Look at pure numbers, even if percentages are fluctuating, what about total numbers of Norwegians?

Besides, the problem lies with you. Just fuck and have more kids if you're so worried about muh anuddah shoah. Oh wait, women don't want to fuck alt righters.

Are we at the government of norway or are neo lib capitalist at the government of Norway?

I agree, but other groups might not, and environmental consciousness isn't going to stop them. If you're so worried about Muslims outbreeding you, get to fucking.

Norway is communist?
Lol

What? The % of Norwegians are decreasing, rapidly if you take past trends into consideration. Ethnic Norwegians are being reduced to a minority in their own native country, and this is true for many other European people too.

What about the environment? Don't you care about that? Listen to yourself. The problem lies with mass immigration, not low birth-rates. We should welcome low-birth rates in the world.

Also I'm not alt-right as I'm an anti-Capitalist and anti-Imperialist.

No.

Also I should have said. Make a fertility society with as many people as you can to promote rapid reproduction. You won't be making much of an impact on population growth with your wife.

I’m shitposting dumbass.
Still, mild fuck for colonizing us

I'm talking about Communists in my Country and the world in general. They support what is happening in Norway and all over Europe.

No? It's not

Hi Zig Forums

And fuck the environment? The easiest thing to do is to close our borders. We don't need to overpopulate the world in some breeding competition.

Better close the borders to mass immigration.

Fuck off stormfag there is literally ‘’nothing’’ wrong with white people being bred out of existence, all the brown people will turn white after living in the cold long enough anyways.

You're ignoring my point about pure numbers as in total numbers of Norwegians, whole integers, not percentages. Are the pure numbers going down too, or is there just more minorities in addition to Norwegians?

I know in the UK they say "WHITE GE N OCIDE OMG" because the percentages of white british are going down, but the pure numbers are actually going up, there's just more minorities now too. How can there be replacement or genocide if there are more of you in total?

No they fucking don't.
They are joke fucking communist who support the neoliberal establishment. "communism" kind of got co opted by liberals with blue hair. These are the same people who talk shit about stalin and north korea and then call actual communist "homophibic or anti semitic".
Look at the soviet union, north korea, cuba, eastern block ecc. And spot the difference. The latter is socialism, blue hair faggots are just faggots.

False flag

Boo-hoo.

Also, let me tell you a secret, there are millions of Norwegian DESCENDANTS around the world. Hence, ethnically the world is as Norwegian as it's ever been. The only difference is that there are less Norwegians in that place in Northern Europe called Norway.

"Stormfag"
Do stormfags typically support Socialist and Communist economic policies? I think not.

"‘’nothing’’ wrong with white people being bred out of existence,"
You disgust me. This is why I can't identify with Communists.

This has been my hypothesis for some time. Environments CREATE people to a very large extent. Hence, I expect European Americans to become browner, Middle-Eastern Europeans to become whiter and so on. In a every real way, nobody is really going anywhere.

There is no such thing as Norwegian, nationality is a spook.

Total number of Norwegians are also decreasing. The ethnic replacement talks about us becoming minorities in our own countries, simple as that. And that is true. I don't want that at all, in fact I think homogenous countries work much better and are much better suited for Communism.

But why are sane, real Communists that oppose ethnic replacement of natives, in such small numbers compared to them then?

If mass immigration does actually bother you, then stopping capitalism will stop the mass incentive there is for mass immigration, the imperialist wars that cause it, and the corporations which utilize it for cheap labour. Capitalism already makes the cost of having children far too expensive and time consuming to afford as well, so as long as capitalism exists you will either have rapidly declining birthrates which cannot match with industrial and labour demands of the country or large scale immigration to offset this. This is inevitable in capitalism.

Nobody owns anything. You don't own a piece of land.

You are destroying the left

Don't listen to him

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What have Norwegians done to ethnically replace other people or exploit Africans? What? Norwegians went over to the US after the Native Americans were genocided and ethnically replaced.

But this is a shitty argument anyways. An English or Spanish person can also oppose the ethnic replacement of his people, we are not guilty of the crimes of our ancestors. You however, are guilty in wanting to ethnically replace Norwegians and Europeans.

This

Why do you think mass immigration occurs? Neoliberalism, simple as that. The elites want cheaper labor and import them in. They want a larger consumer base to sell bullshit to. The elites also destabilize regions of the world through war that force these people to seek refuge in wealthier countries.

Are you a troll?


False. Genetically there are, historically there are and culturally there are.

In norway? Never been there.
In the world? There are many, but obviously they don't give them Platform.
This said I don't belive nobody supports ethnic replacement here, they are just trolling you. But it's also true that ethnic replacement is pranoid shit to a certain extent. It's true that they are flooding countries with immigrants but this is caused by imperialism and poverty and the fact that corporations need cheap labour. If you seriously belive in ethnic replacement the only way to stop is communism

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There is no ethnic replacement though. Norwegians are not in danger of being "replaced" in the slightest. People immigrating to other countries isn't replacement. Besides, immigration to Norway is actually decreasing after a peak during the refugee crisis and immigrants are 16% of the population (and that includes other Scandinavians like Swedes).

I oppose both Capitalism and Imperialism. Read my OP, I would call myself Communist. However I have problems identifying with most Communists today because they support the ethnic replacement of Norwegians.

Just do what based socialist China does and institute a one child policy for Norwegians, and mandatory state issued contraceptive injections to economic immigrants. Blam problem solved.

Define 'Norwegian'

Then become a Nazbol

People like you give me hope. I would like to find a organization with likeminded people here and organize with it, but there are none. And I'm not the leader type required to organize one myself, maybe one day.

I don't hear many leftists vouching for this at all, but maybe there are some radlibs I just don't know about.

Thank USA and all of the West for dismantling of USSR and Yugoslavia for that. The communists tried to save you, they lost.

Tbh, neither of these things necessitate a nation by itself

I agree. What I don't understand, is why do most people that call themselves Communist or that claim to belong on the left support it?

If they actually wanted to help the most people, they would advocate spending more money nearby. Mass immigration only leads to more division and less social capital. Communism seeks less division and contradictions in society and a homogenous society is obviously more suited for that.

No one supports ethnic replacement of anybody, I just am skeptical what you're describing counts as a "replacement".

No, we could shut our gates even with a Capitalist system. We can prevent the ethnic replacement before it's too late. I don't see how it's paranoid when it's actually happening.

Don't worry. It's a problem most genuine communist have. Even marx at the time had problem with people pushing idpol. He was smart enough to kick them out of organizations, but during the cold war most communist orgs got invaded by storms of femminist, lgbt, an.ti whites ecc. These were called new left, and most people even here on this board would gladly kill them.

No m8. The capitalist system is the one flooding your countries with immigrants because they need cheap labour. Capital is like this. There is no way other than abolishing capital

Because (western) liberals are hipster conservatives, and conservatives hate Communism, hate Islam, and love Christianity. So liberals do the complete opposite. They will later grow up to be conservatives themselves and repeating that insipid quote about being a liberal while young, and a conservative while older.

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Internationalist tendencies, also many communists are against the idea of a state in general (stateless, classless society after all). Also your position is (I'm not accusing you) somewhat shared by alt righters who usually have a racist motive when they complain about "ethnic replacement".

I personally think mass immigration is bad and as long as states exist, states should focus on improving themselves and making their countries good places to live for their own people instead of exporting them all to the first world. That however isn't realistic with the way things are operating and corruption and imperialism and all that, so I'm not really sure what possible solution there is.

While I agree that a homogenous society would be more manageable you are forgetting about china, USSR and Yugoslavia. These had a lot of different groups inside them.

Norwegians are already replaced in certain parts of Oslo, the capital. Are you telling me that if the native Americans were all shipped off to reservations and not killed off, an ethnic replacement didn't happen?

Immigration in Norway is decreasing because the turbo-Capitalist populist party has lowered it. The left, especially the "Communists" want to take in much more than ever. It's still a steady stream though.

This thread was mainly going to be about why COMMUNISTS support the ethnic replacement of Europeans though, not at what rate it's happening.

They don't. Those that do, while calling themselves communists, aren't. We don't respect chosen pronouns here. Idpol is right-wing's cup of tea.

Norwegian Citizen or Ethnic Norwegian? Ethnic Norwegian:
- Genetically part of the Norwegian group, genetics aquired through living together and having the same admixture added in the same geographic area.
- Common history/ancestry
- Common culture
(- Common geography)

You are posting at am*rican hours too, that's why you got some shitty posts too.
Just stick around, have no fear of asking in good faith and don't mind liberal hipsters and americans telling you that "ethnic replacement is good" and "you are Zig Forums because you are scared of immigration". Fun thing is that you never even talked bad about immigrants, you talked bad about mass immigration which is the right position imho.

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How can you call yourself a leftist when you’re openly a bigot 🤔
Protecting people’s identity IS leftist but hatred is the rights cup of tea. As communist it’s our duty to defend LGBTQNRFV-HH* and GNB+ people regardless of who they like, or the color of their skin. Mods should probably just delete your post for stupidity.

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"Nazi Bolshevik" sounds terrible comrade


Most leftists support mass immigration into Norway and European countries.


There is a Norwegian ethnicity simple as that. Do you deny that there is a Native American ethnicity too?


I consider Native Americans to be replaced on their land when they are moved into reservations and other ethnicities move in on their former land. Sure, there are some Native Americans left living outside of the reservations. The same trends we are seeing here in Norway, even more so in countries like the UK or Sweden with cities and whole districts being completely dominated by foreign ethnicities.

Obviously "our situation" is nowhere as bad as the situation for Native Americans, don't get me wrong.

Who is this faggot now?
Go back from whatever hole you are from

Those are radlibs idpoler faggots. Not left. They ruined the left

No they don't. Maybe SocDems at most.

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Erocucks don't read it if you can't handle the truth
immigration only exists because you european shits can't fuck and the local bourgeoisie needs a bigger consumer base. Africa and the middle east were always shit and at war. Why did immigration just boom now? because the european economy needs it.

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Is the existence of Chinatown in every large US city indicative of ethnic replacement?

mostly people don't want that, however if communism gets to power and global warming does its thing, a massive amount of immigrants will come to your country, after all a lot countries are going to be ruined and whatever ice cold shithole you live in is going to be perfect to built massive refugee camps, so get used to being ethnically replaced bucko

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But where are the strong organizations against this? I would gladly join one and be active. Would start one myself if I was the leader/organizator type required to start one my self.


We can shut the borders today and aboloshing the the Capitalist system tomorrow. Can't bring back a minority ethnicity once it's in minority without extreme violence.


A quick solution would be to close the borders and increase spending on refugees in the nearby countries. It would prevent ethnic replacement and actually help more people with the same money. Then the left can get back on track and fight against capitalism and imperialism.

The young men fleeing should suffer in their own country instead of moving to the Imperialistic West. They should suffer because through suffering they would want to change their country.


China is Capitalist, USSR collapsed and so did Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia collapsed mainly because of the ethnic tensions.

Yeah if you fund ethno-nationalist groups, like USA did, and then economically terrorize a country, like USA did, then yeah, it will collapse due to ethnic tensions.

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I'm starting to feel you don't exactly know what communism is about. Our goal is to abolish the class system as well as commodity production based upon surplus extraction and wage labour. Ethnic conflicts are almost always derived from that of the economic and material scarcity, to say that conflict just appears because of "culture" or heterogeneity is un-materialist.

Do you seriously think that's happening and is not just some alarmist bullshite pushed by the recent wave of altrighters? You're not even close to the US average of 60% compared to other ethnicities.

The immigration wouldn't even be happening if it wasn't for neoliberal globalism anyways.

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The difference between Native Americans then, and Norwegians today is that there is no conscious, racially motivated reason for 'replacing' Norwegians as there was for the destruction of Native Americans. If there was a conscious effort to destroy the Norwegian ethnic bloc (which will be replaced anyways, because evolution is a naturally occurring process. So I don't know what you're bitching about anyways. In a very real way, everyone's being replaced all of the time. Are you going to keep Norwegians in a zoo to keep them 'pure'? And do you understand why I have to assume your motives are sinister? And the extent to which people are defined by their race is itself full of unfounded presumptions) then maybe I'd care. It would depend on the manner in which Norwegian's were being 'replaced.' For example, were they being murdered in the streets then I'd have a big problem with that. If they were being sterilized and forcefully kept from having children then I'd have a problem with that. Given that Norwegians have simply chosen to keep from having as many children as before, of their own accord, there is no issue here. Your concern appears to be one around there being another ethnic bloc, of distant genetic lineage, in the midst of the indigenous Norwegian ethnic bloc. Does this mean that Norwegians will be 'gone'? How so? Do you see how this sounds crazy? There seems to be very little contention apart from what you see in FOX news media that blows up ethnic strife like the idpolers they are. I'm a commie, and not an idpoler. You sound like a full blown idpoler pretending to be a commie.

However, what will happen in Norway, definitively, is that Norwegian men and women will combine their lineages with those of the new migrant blocs. And this is bad because…because…because…because you're an actual racist maybe? Look, if the Native Americans were 'wiped out' because they all mixed with the invading Europeans, we wouldn't be calling that genocide, would we? If Native Americans were, instead of pillaged and murdered, simply loved and integrated, we wouldn't be calling that genocide, right? Stop with your paranoia. Nobody except the most spiteful idiots wants to 'replace' Norwegians in the way that you've been programmed by your YouTube videos to think.

Isn't one reason why the borders are open though is because there's not enough people to support the welfare state at the current birth rates? I've heard that explanation before but am not totally sure about it. If that is an issue I'm sure there are other solutions than mass immigration, but what do you propose?

SHUT THE FUCK UP SNOWNIGGER

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This. When will brainlets realize ethnic replacement isn’t inherently a bad thing? Especially because, you know, it’s been going on since humans evolved from chimps. There is literally no reason to be afraid of changing demographics unless the change is caused by a purposeful genocide of an ethnic group. (E.G. the holocaust)

And for all you Nazbols out there, you’re getting the rope too.

You should look for the ones that are affiliated with unions and such. I can't really help you with this because I'm not familiar with norway
Yeah, I wish it was that easy.
Yes, but mao manage to unite these various populations, it didn't became capitalist because of them
Funded by americans.

Stop

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retards like you should read the UN definition of genocide: un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.html


Genocide is happening in different ways in all European nations, in the US, in Palestine, in Yemen, in Syria, in South Africa - and is planned everywhere else. You're the ones in denial.

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People like you give me hope and motivation to be an "active" Communist again.

Antifa in general
Various Maoist parties in Europe
"Leftists" in general, which is mostly Social Democrats today.

All support mass immigration.


And….? Read the OP again. I asked why do most people on the left and all Communist organizations (from what I see) support it?


The US is a bit different but;
Yes, but at a small scale and not something that divides and creates tension. Also I would say with exceptions. If say a European city in the Midwest had a large portion of it's city centre become Chinese, then an ethnic replacement happened in that geographic location. Just like when the Native Americans where moved into reservations. Ethnic replacement is also relative, can happen at a larger scale (Native Americans) or smaller scale (East-Side in Oslo).

t. American white college liberals who don't even know what being a minority means.
What's next? Globalization is not inerenthly bad?
You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. There is nothing nazbol in this either

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read a book you retard.

Yeah this are cancer everywhere.

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Yeah, we should just tell people with doubts to go fuck themself, we don't answer to nobody. Guess why they are slaughtering the left everywhere in the first world?

I won't get used to it.


Almost always? Historically too? I am not so sure about that. The conflict between the native Norwegian population and various religious communities for instance is mostly culturally and racially driven. Same is true in the rest of Europe I think.


This is a map of refugees, not foreigners. Oslo is probably 50%+ non-ethnic Norwegian. There is a constant increase in the % of non-natives in Norway. It's not bullshit, it's fact.

Yes, in some countries it's happening at a faster rate.

Oh so muslim immigrants committing any crime is now genocide. and that's happening 'all over the western world' and we should all get really scared for our race. Nice mental gymnastics there brainlet. You know how much the total percentage of muslims in Europe changed over the immigrant crisis? From 6% to an estimated 8% by the year 2030. This is all blown out of proportion because your ideology needs a bogeyman to survive. Get the hell out of here with your alarmist bullshit.

t. American white college liberals who don't even know what being a minority means.


Sorry sweetie, but I’ve lived in majority black parts of the deep south since I was a kid. And since when was wanting to get an education bad? Just admit it, you’re afraid of people around you having different skin colors than you because the only identifable aspect to your life is your physical appearance. Stop being idpoled and go get a medical degree, maybe then you won’t be such a retarded Zig Forums newfag.

Because it's not really a major problem, because they look good by doing it, because they know europe needs it(socdems here)

How about if I told you that all of these had a material and economic factor. What if I also told you that a 19th century economist could tell all about this?

Immigrants were still only 13% of the population in the year 2015. This is a serious nothingburger.

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target killing and expropriating boers perpetrated by an alien immigrant population (bantu) is just as bad as target killing and expropriating palestinians perpetrated by an alien immigrant population (jews).


Pic is government forcibly transferring child of ethnic/religious group to another - point #5 of the list, not "crime", which is point #1 killing members of ethnic group en masse.


not even worth a response.

As previously stated, you're in denial.

He may be an alarmist but you are an idiot for explaining this shit like this.
Again, why instead of calling people names we don't explain them why they are exaggerating and why they are wrong and what are the reason behind it?
This guy seems genuinely worried, just a bit paranoid and is even open to actual communsim. He's just full of MSM sensationalism

So things which wouldn't exist in socialism?

None of that is happening in Europe or the US you simpleton. That's fucking insulting to actual genocide victims.

He never argued against socialism nor he just asked why "socialist" support this shit.
But sometimes, especially at american hours, this board is so retarded that would rather scare away people looking for answers and that basically agree with us just for the thrill of calling them Zig Forums or whatever.

So an uncohesive group with no organizational structure composing less than 13% of the population is literally committing genocide because some of them have committed a crime?
Yeah, but I bet his original parents were crackheads anyway which is why he got sent to a foster home. Honestly does it matter if a kid gets sent to a foster home with a different ethnicity/religion? There is no clause stating that it isn't - if they're a stable home that's better than whatever got him sent there then fine I say.

And yet, ethnic Norwegians are being replaced. It's what is happening. Why do you bring racial purity into this?

The ends are the same, ethnic Norwegians will be a minority in their own country. And actually some people do want to make Norway less ethnically Norwegian, want to decrease the % of ethnic Norwegians for the sake of it. The leading factor is globalism and the capitalist system, but your point that nobody is pushing for it is false. I don't care if there is an agenda or not though - it is happening which is what I want to stop.

The issue is not that we are not having children, the issue is mass immigration. Having fewer children is generally a good thing in this polluted world. Why do people bring this up all the time? Don't they care about the environment? Weak argument.

Norwegians will combine their linages with immigrants, and the native population will not be like it was, but something different. Am I a racist if I want my children to look like me? Or if I want a future without ethnic tensions?

The case is that we are not even mixing with them. That happens at a very low %. What is happening is that our % and numbers are decreasing while it's the opposite for the foreigners.

I agree that targeting, killing, and expropriating populations is wrong, but you understand by your definition of alien and native that the boers cannot be considered native and the bantu alien right?
Was this forced or was this an adoption?

Dude immigrants are 13% of the population and net migration is decreasing per year. If this happens it won't for centuries if not millennia

dumb statement proven wrong a thousand times over, latest being venezuela


All points have and are happening. Pic is example of most commonly refuted, rest is easily demonstrated too.


Come on now.
Also not 13% of pop.
Also not sole perpetrator.

Given the sheanenigans of British govt, hardly a logical conclusion, and even if it were the case, still not an argument for the decision.

p.s. jihad is personally mandatory to muslims and takes multiple forms as well (i.e. demographics, economic - other than active).
Sole exception is through following conditions: non muslims are not present in muslim lands and enough muslims are already conducting jihad in foreign countries as to not make it a personal obligation, but simply a community one (meaning individual muslims aren't directly required to take up arms).
From "reliance on the traveller".

Venezuela is as socialist as Norway.
Not socialist

Closing the border, let the economy collapse and introduce a centrally (and locally) planned economy.


What control will ethnic Norwegians be of the situation the day we are say 20% in Norway? What if the majority unites against us for some reason?


I mean, Communist China didn't last

If there were one ethnicity, they couldn't have funded these tensions. The tensions existed before the funding.


Native European workers generally oppose mass immigration. There will be no Communist revolution because believe it or not, most people do not like the idea of being ethnically replaced.

This better not turn into another anti-natalist argument
Ethnic tensions are derived almost entirely from the economic and material scarcity.
Which is caused by?

I think I just felt a part of me die from reading that and all my attempts at discussion made void.